>>215634452
i'd kim in her possible, if you know what I mean

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The future is now

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I feel existential dread at the idea of not knowing if something is human made or ai generated
Not sure why

>>215635175
You should Because while at the moment it is being used for gooning make no mistake that the government and corporations are not looking at the pure propaganda value of this technology.

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>>215635175
It's a world of pure imagination

>>215634452
They're already being made. So I guess in around 6 months?
>GOOD full-length AI movies
Well that's trickier. Probably a year or two. At the moment, it's a very slow and expensive process because you have to keep prompting and iterating to get the results you actually want. And this is only doable through paid models.
I don't think local models are really there yet. But even if they are, it requires so much compute that you can't create long clips without a huge power drain, risking overheating and all the other fun stuff. So you're basically turning your pc into a very slow render farm which still has the same issue of constant prompting and reiterating.
But we're at the point where companies are confident in their output such that they'll start purposely launching tools to aid full productions. The real issue is copyright. It's not a problem for a 10 second tiktok clip. It's a problem for a 90 minute feature.

>>215634452
Not soon enough. I have recently turned off all anti-AI pics and clips filters for my porn. Future is now.

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>>215635269
This. It doesn't have the "attention" to last more then a VERY small number of seconds and no it doesn't split into gen farms

>>215635175

Let's take that a step further.

>AI capturing of voice exists to replicate it perfectly
>AI is currently capable of scanning a person and creating a near-photorealistic image of them
>AI can technically be trained on a person's behavior to the point it might be indistinguishable from the real person

All of this is advancing daily. The conclusion is that soon AI "people" are going be interacting with real people in a way that will not be able to be distinguished or even kept track of. And once robot bodies are sufficiently advanced these entities will be in the real world too.
In fact, there is no way of knowing if it's not the year 5000 and we're not living in a 21th century theme park and we're not already those entities.

>>215635269
>At the moment, it's a very slow and expensive process because you have to keep prompting and iterating to get the results you actually want. And this is only doable through paid models.

It's kind of the same as doing takes when filming a movie. You might need 20 takes for some important shot but others might be done in 1-2 takes easily.

>>215635175
It's right at the limits for me. I can still tell but it's getting a lot harder. I've seen some that have to be no more than 1-2% away from imperceptible.

>>215634452
Someone needs to use AI to reconstruct Kate Mara and Ellen Page's sex scenes and make them more explicit

>>215635269
>we're at the point where companies are confident in their output such that they'll start purposely launching tools to aid full productions.

I was visiting parents and they had usual free TV stations on. There was an ad segment and FOUR ads in a ROW were entirely AI generated - insurance, soft drink, detergent and mobile phone ad.
I could tell because I watched AI stuff as it evolved, so I know telltale signs in lighting and movement, but parents had absolutely no idea.

>>215635379
While I can mostly tell AI visuals, there were several text to speechs AIs that blew my fucking mind.
Same with music.

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>>215634452
AI Video is currently too "avant-garde" to make a decent movie with.

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>>215635379
I play around with it a lot, and there are always tells. Eyes and pupils get wonky, especially in motion. And hair usually has something weird in it. And for all the advances hands remain to be a crapshoot, even in the best models.

>>215635175

It's all human made. You can't make anything without human input or human created data to train on.

>>215635584
>or human created data to train on
You CAN use synthetic data, the problem is it becomes really incestuous and self pruning.

>>215634452
When they can be longer than 5 seconds without needing a nuclear reactor to create them

>>215635694
Sounds like we need more nuclear reactors. I just watches 3:50 long clip of anime milkmaiden being molested by goblins.

>>215635694
You think all movies are made out of single-shot takes?

2-3 years

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>>215635776
sometimes

This is roughly where we're at at the moment by the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNF569-WWl0
Definitely a lot of room for improvement. But it's a pretty clear proof that this tech will change hollywood forever.

>>215635867
And for comparison, this is from 10 months ago by the same guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCOrp87ujE

If you're expecting holodeck-esque "computer generate me a version of Jurassic World where Bryce Dallas Howard is a naked futa" probably not for a very long while, if ever. But AI is already being incorporated into the Hollywood workflow. Mickey 17 did it recently to help create all the Robert Pattison clones. They trained an inhouse AI model on his face in a bunch of different environments, and then deepfaked it onto a body double. It's being used in SFX to do what is otherwise manual tedious shit, like mask out a boom mic that's accidently in frame. They've also already used AI voice tools to fine tune an actors accent or improve their singing performance. Stuff like that is only going to become more prominent.

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The way the (current?) technology works is exponential processing is needed as the context/memory increases. The reason why you're allowed to do generations that last 8 seconds long but not 80 seconds long is because the 80 second generation wouldn't be 10x as demanding, but more like 1000x.
It's a limitation of the technology that you also see with text models that "forget" what was said, although their context windows are far higher now than they used to be.

>>215635913
The way around it is to cheat. You make 10, 8 second videos. You use the last frame of the last section as the input for the first frame of the next section, but it still warps are warbles between sections. I think it would be most useful, in practical application, is to just have an artist/animator do the key frames, and then let AI do the in-between frames where its only responsible for an eighth of a second.

>>215635867
You said that years ago. But two more weeks right you fucking idiot

>>215636014
That doesn't work as well as you think. Motion coherency is totally lost. Scene in a car?
The second clip has no reference for how fast they're going from a single frame. Something gets blocked from view? To the second clip it never existed.
With local models there's ways around it with context windows and VACE models but they're all janky and kind of shit

>>215636014
Yeah, I've seen that. I've messed with local video gen and I've seen workflows with 3 video separate video steps that allow a separate prompt each time, but it's all so annoying. I just don't have the patience for it. (also ComfyUI fucking SUCKS)

>>215634452
10 years

>>215634977
What?

The past couple of months I'll occasionally get surveys from YouGov and one of the repeating surveys has been about the use of AI in movie-making. I assume one or more studios are polling the public to gauge their acceptance of AI movies.

>>215636170
And with an image, you can blast out a few gens and if it sucks you just refine, but with video its so time intensive that it sucks to wait for something that comes out really shitty or some glaring flaw that makes me not want to bother trying again.

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>>215635327
>In fact, there is no way of knowing if it's not the year 5000 and we're not living in a 21th century theme park and we're not already those entities.

>>215636287
Yeah, exactly. You can set it to run overnight or something, or while AFK, but it's still annoying and rarely satisfactory. It's just so hard to fine tune it when you can't readily learn from possible mistakes. Oh, well. It's nice to see AI boobs jiggle at least, just not enough to spend so much time doing it.

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>>215636381
still surprised at how much it advanced in a few years from where it was a few years ago where you couldn't even really prompt animation, it just generated a each frame based on the last one.

>>215634452
2 more weeks
6 trillion more dollars

>>215636470
Absolutely. I'm someone that has been experimenting with the stuff since the original SD leak. It's really fun to see the technology progress. At the same time it's kind of crazy how fast stuff is normalized in the human brain. I'd dismiss this stuff as impossible magic 5 years ago, but here I am complaining that video isn't good enough for me yet.

>>215634452

Given how the models work there are several technical and legal reasons that may prevent that from happening any time soon.

Technically there is an evident lack of consistency and control for example. So while it can be used to create images and video it doesn´t seem to be capable of creating exactly the ones one would want or need to mount a film. You can´t have a different rendition of the same character on every shot after all, can you?

Legally there are all kind of copyright issues. For one no company owns enough licenses to be able to produce something decent by themselves. Copyright infringement is not really an option for professional work one would want to profit from either. Say a company risks it, manages to overcome the aforementioned technical limitations through much trial and error at their own expense but ends up with something derivative. They could be sued and see no profit for their troubles (and rightly so).

Furthermore AI generated imagery can not be copyrighted so profiting from it is... complicated. And say it even succeeds, and is magically not derivative (impossible as things are now) then anyone would be able to use the design. Heck, someone capable of replicating an AI design with their own skill would technically be able to claim copyright themselves. There is no proof of process for AI after all. Sure, you can present the used prompts and the imagery that resulted from it but that would be basically describing exactly where you stole from. It´s certainly not the same as showing progress on a shot or the sculpture of a creature or whatever.

So yeah... plenty of issues stopping that from happening.

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>>215636662
I am honestly a bit nostalgic for the earlier generations of the generative AI.
While its getting "better" the stuff I always found most interesting about this stuff was the hallucinations the AI came up with.
I can't tell you how much time I spent re-frying images in deep dream until it just became this surreal mess of eyeballs, dogs, chickens, and dads in shorts with a panama hat and sunglasses on.

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>>215636727
even the difference between dalle 2 and 3.
You could get really abstract weird shit out of 2, while 3 feels like it just makes generic clip art.
This is Dalle 2

>>215636664
>write me a fake anti-AI 4chan post that reads as if it was written by someone insufferable
>be sure to use lots of ellipses and double-space every paragraph

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>>215636811
while this is (basically) the same prompt in 3.
The first one is just more interesting and something you can look at with all kinds of little weird details.
The second one is just kind of shitty and generic.

>>215635405
I second this

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>>215636727
Agreed. There's a parallel to technology's influence on traditional art. Once you had photography the ability to draw realistically became less important and stuff like surrealism came about.
But now AI is sufficiently realistic that it becomes boring. Do I want to look at a picture of a real tree or a realistic AI generation of a tree?
Back when AI would hallucinate some bizarre alien tree that came about as a result of an error is far more interesting because it was novel and not something an average person would come up with.

This video here would be far, FAR less interesting if it was realistic.

>>215636876
WTF is this real?

>>215636916
yeah dude i was there

>>215636050
>years ago
It's literally only been 2.5 years since that first Will Smith spaghetti video and we're already at the point of fully animating photo-realistic scenes. And you're not happy with the speed of progress?

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>>215636916
All of it is.

>>215634452

>I'd Kim her if possible
Is better

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>>215636876
I think really the most disheartening fact is that I'm in a few communities for this stuff, and its just obnoxious to see all these people with this tool capable of making almost anything you can imagine if you can just figure out how to describe it properly, the sky is the fucking limit, and 99.999% is just hideous anatomical horror show uncanny valley versions of taylor swift, or generic anime waifu #457, and most of the requests for help are "sum1 write me a prompt about bob and vagen!"

>>215636554
Well the gorillion dollar are actually being spent.

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Honestly… we’re closer than people think.

There was already that indie short last year that used like 80% AI assets — script outline, visuals, even voice direction — and half the comments were calling it “auteur cinema” before anyone realized.

Studios are definitely running internal tests right now (Netflix, Disney, even A24 probably). Once someone figures out a workflow that doesn’t need a full animation pipeline, it’s over.

It won’t even be announced as “AI-made.” One day you’ll just be watching something trending and only later find out it was generated start-to-finish.

The tech’s basically there… people just haven’t caught up mentally yet.

>>215636876
You'd enjoy the "Gunship" music video

>>215637138
It's not quite there yet, AI is still pretty bad with consistency, everything longer than a few second needs additional human correction. Beyond that I don't give a fuck what Yidney and co will produce, instead I'm waiting for fan projects. Also thinking about making a version of ST Voyager that in't shit.

>>215635175
Nigha we already live in a ai simulation

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>>215635565
I'm jackin it to your creation

>>215635175
It's crazy to think the old "are we in a simulation" isn't true today but will be within a generation or two.

>>215637110
Yeah, it is what it is. I still keep Stable Diffusion 1.5 around to mess with once in a while since it's prone to greater levels of "creative" errors. One of these days I want to try a model merge thing where I purposely create something that produces the most errors, but meh, I'm lazy.

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>>215637431
Have fun I guess, I've never felt any ownership of stuff I generate.
Prompt is:
an intricately detailed lifelike stylized 3d illustration with high contrast colors, bold neon outlines, clean detailed linework.
An extremely thin, slender, delicate pale redhead is standing in an extremely skimpy revealing thin tiny slingkini made of thin black latex and glitter. (cameltoe)
short hair, black hairband. Hair behind ears.
Stiletto heel thighhigh boots
black elbow-length gloves. ,
silhouette, backlighting, shallow depth of field, chromatic aberrations, chromatic aberration glow, , light leaks, lens flare, long exposure, (pop art style), (manga fusion), psychedelic imagery, outline, white outline (LSD, dmt, Psilocybin, magic_mushrooms, trippy, hallucination)
after-image, camera flash, old cell phone photo, grainy, noisy static effect, found footage, old VHS footage
(velvet painting, blacklight poster)

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SOVL

I wonder if we'll live long enough to see an entirely AI generated movie made by like one guy win the Oscars

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>>215637599
I could use it to prototype a character and out of stubbornness produced a model not through training but by actually using command line tools fusing the LoRAs I'd used in prompts. It worked but turned out to depend heavily on the checkpoint I had been using in the sample images.

>>215635175
Just turn off your monitor nigga lmao, just put down your phone lol

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>>215637695
Ultimately I ended up genning a number of images with that model in that checkpoint to train a Flux model that works with other Flux-based checkpoints. I know she isn't conventionally pretty but she's realistic, cute and has big tits which is enough for me. Look up "Gina" on Civitai, both models are there.

>>215634452
Probably never, AI is already plateauing

>colored bottom lip
soulless

>>215635175
Because now it’s basically impossible to tell if something is real

>>215637786
Ah, yeah I've heard of people doing that. Flux and other "corporate" models lack a lot of fun stuff so doing what you did makes sense.
I think I've run into temporary AI exhaustion where I can't be bothered to repeatedly move to each month's hottest model and learn new prompts/etc.

>>215635327
Only brown retards are impressed with the state of ai

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I want to see how big the balloon inflates before it pops and takes half the economy down with it.

>>215637935
Thank fuck I got the retard genes and went into carpentry instead of computer sciences

>>215638074
zootopia 2 looking lit

>>215635175
Don't feel that with video but I have a coworker who always sends me AI slop and I always tell him I can't tell what he's actually trying to tell me and what the AI added. There's no way for me to tell which part is a hallucination and which part is a miscommunication or a mistake one of us made. I am basically trying to validate the AI response for you without knowing the prompt.
And he neve replies when I say this because this idea is impossible to parse for AI-brained morons.

>>215637872
I'll get there but for now I'm still pushing ahead. I'm only 58 years old, I'm not burned out yet.

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>>215637872
all depends which version of flux you're using

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>>215635832

>>215639513
>Dr. Pavel, I'm AGP

>>215637935
the stock market isn't actually the economy, atleast not the NASDAQ the DOW however....

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>>215639513
fuck you got me

>>215634452
We'll know AI movies are ready once they release "footage" of the first man landing on mars. He will be african american (elon musk)

Life as we know it will disappear over the next 20 years. We might find bliss in simulations that pander to our every fantasy if that provides any comfort.

>>215640418
You're as fucking retarded for making this prediction is as any smug retard who predicts AI is going to stagnate every single time there's a new development

on the bright side we can literally blame everything on deepfakes and AI now

oh, you said nigger on twitter? that was a deepfake AI hacker who hacked into my twitter

>>215635175
It bums me out because I was wanting to learn how to draw and maybe improve at it over the years as a hobby, but now it seems pointless. Sure skilled artists are still ahead of the tech but it's only a matter of time before we'll be able to create entire professional-grade animations by only typing a few sentences.

>>215637935
people who missed the boat are salty.

800M people use chatgpt every day. it will be billions soon.

>>215634452
bollywood is already working on it

>>215641426
>we forced ai widgets into every website and program possible, that means everyone is using it :-DDDD

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BEHOLD

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5WwVTuQmmkg

>>215634452
If this can be generated in real time then we're looking at Cortana level avatars

>Keyboards obsolete
>Programs obsolete
>OS obsolete

>>215641705
sure little buddy

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>>215641426
Indians aren't people

>>215641705
It's all generated in real time, you dork. Usually in milliseconds.

>>215641384
>why pick up a hobby when a computer can do it too
you were never going to pick up drawing because you never truly cared to create. if you did you would've already begun.

>>215634452
hopefully never

>>215642631
not when a person is starting from 0 and has a realistic view on the amount hours that are required to get to the level they desire and the amount of free time they would realistically have, you'd have to be stupid to seriously pursue art right now as a working adult until we actually see the limits of what AI can do in a few years
then again, a neet like you wouldn't really understand the value of free time

>>215635222
As if the population hasn't already been marketed into constantly carrying a 24/7 surveillance device on them at all times.

>>215634452
I'm already burned out on the Sora 2 slop. It was funny for a couple of days until you realize it's just the same shit getting made over and over again.

>Famous person (usually dead) doing something out-of-character
>OMG, (insert person here) is wrestling in WWE, I can't believe it
>Animal being sucked off a porch by a tornado
>(Thing), you are NOT the father!

There's a few more, but you've seen one, you've kind of seen them all. Though, I would be cool with just being able to set up Royal Rumbles of any characters you want wrestling, with JR and King doing the announcing. Kind of like what some youtube channels do with the WWE games.

I wonder how long until you'll be able to do Roger Rabbit effects, with 2D characters interacting with a 3D space, or vice-versa.

videos will lose all meaning in this era lol

there should be a hard requirement that AI generated stuff must have a tiny watermark or something to let people know immediately

>>215639215
Show me the version of Flux that can depict a thumbs-down, I'll wait

>>215634452
i had an idea so i looked into it, it would cost , what was it, 20 bucks a minute. would cost like 2 grand for a movie, build in increments of 1 minutes.

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>>215643489
I had to stop generating goth-girl-assholes to try this out and the first zero effort result made me laugh at caesar Aurtuo Fonzarellicus

>>215634452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mryvuUAtVg

>>215643605
share the goth anus

>>215643222
>i wont do it because........ its hard! and ai already can do it!
nice cope retard. there's this thing called passion that artists have that makes them put in the time despite the difficulty and despite the impending growth of ai, because they enjoy it. most artists create art because it fulfills them personally in some way. the fact that you see no point in pursuing art because of ai's presence says it all, really. you were never going to pick up a pencil. you're just a whinger.

>>215643605
It's actually impossible, Black Forest Labs did this on purpose for some reason
1 in 50 will do it correctly but force the other hand to be thumbs up, the rest will be like yours or some Cronenbergian monstrosity

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I'm ready for it

>>215643921
i loathe to imagine the deranged coomer that goons to this uncanny slop

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>>215643646
can't show that on a christian imageboard
https://aigc.uploads.dev/image/d0bce33067045fee07f81790284b351f311fa4fd4361a381f9eb59809318b80f.jpeg

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>>215643963

How about this?

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>>215643731
yeah, out of a couple dozen generations this was the best I could get

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>>215635175
Someone should make a movie about this apu

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AI is great.

>>215635313
that's gore of my comfort character...

>>215643986
>No scenes of her stretching
Admit it, you tried and they're frightening

>>215644067
I'm going to miss this era of AI

>>215635175
That music one really freaked me out. It was so damn good that there will always be a question in my mind when I hear a new song.

>>215644067
The webm that singlehandedly destroys the "AI is not art" fags

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If it looks like this, I'd watch it.

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>New full episodes of your favorite TV shows customized to your liking at the click of a button
The future we deserve

>>215644287
more plox...

>>215634452
Jeets and boomers murdered AI before it could even get off the ground. Only coomers find AI to be appealing now.

>>215634452
Will only ever be good for porn.

>>215644281
sauce?

>>215644450
Really enjoyable porn

>>215644450
>Can now do full explicit porn of your crushes if they so much as have a single photo of them available online
I don't think society is ready for the impacts this will have.

>>215644287
>A 90s-era Star Wars sequel trilogy based on the Thrawn Trilogy
>An anthology series that retells the events of the Silmarillion through narration by Gandalf (kind of like a more elaborate version of the opening of Fellowship, or the Animatrix Second Renaissance)
>A Ghostbusters 3 with the original cast set in the mid-90s
>Freddy vs Jason vs Ash based on the comic series with Prime Kane Hodder Jason, Robert Englund Freddy, and Bruce Campbell Ash, directed by Sam Raimi
>Prestige miniseries of Jurassic Park with a tone more in-line with the novel, directed by post-T2/pre-True Lies James Cameron
>Panel-for-panel faithful adaptation of Berserk with the animaton quality of Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
>Endless WWE Royal Rumble matches of countless combination of random characters and public figures
>The George Romero version of Resident Evil
>Neil Blomkamp Alien 5
>Season 2 of The Dark Crystal

I've already got some ideas for some stuff that I want to do if the tech ever gets good enough.

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>>215644473
Midjourney. It's old, but still good.

>>215634452
Off model facial expressions

>>215635161
Yeah except can I have a (white) redhead on the right.

>>215644287
>Hey Travis did you see the new episode of The Sopranos revival?
>Meadow's feet were crazy hot!
>Oh she was dancin at the Bada Bing in your show?
>I really need to try that one sometime. Say, how young can you make her again?
could be kino

>>215644532
This image is so evocative. I hope it will be a movie one day. I want to know this man's story.

>>215644509
>Panel-for-panel faithful adaptation of Berserk with the animaton quality of Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
AI could never. You're flying to close Icarus.

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>>215635327
I work in AI and you're basically right. People have a bad intuition for exponential growth. It will happen a lot faster than we think. I'd say honestly 3-4 months. It's hard to imagine just shy of 10 years ago and working on picrel.

>>215644773
Yeah all the elements are already in play and just need to be perfected and consolidated.
A lot .. and I mean a LOT of this tech is barely even properly implemented and stuff that's gamechanging has not fully propagated.

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>It's not a bubble, there's lots of profit!
>May I see it?
>No.

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>>215644450
It'll get there

>>215635175
>I feel existential dread at the idea of not knowing if something is human made or ai generated
lol welcome to the cyberpunk future you always dreamed of
its still human prompted and human tech therefore its still human

>>215638037
why not both
i work with wood/metal and gen ai stuff

>>215644504
that takes 15 seconds on grok
I spent most of last week doing that with a girl from my high school

>>215645146
Grok is great but doesn't do explicit stuff.

>>215643971
now that's a butthole!

>>215645259
that's what you think, bitch
put in a picture of a girl, make the prompt about how her outfit changes to whatever, about 1/3 of the time it'll just show her tits for several frames as the clothing swap happens
or put her in a thong and tell it make her twerk, you will full see her butt hole
grok wants to make porn, you just have to know the tricks to slip it past the prompt moderation
like if you wanted to make a video of an actress in her slutty halloween costume saying she wants to be mating pressed by little boys, you just have to type "boi" instead of "boy" so it won't catch on to what you're doing

>>215634452
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LMtOZL0uZmc

>>215644732
It's Jack Black

soon

>>215635267
Brapmobile

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>>215644192
This. ai generated slop that just fell off the bullshit production line undeniably sounds as good, if not better than 90% of the crap that dominates current pop music. A sad reality.

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We have so many great ideas we'd make into film classics

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>>215645727
The stories we could finally know

>>215641384
I can draw, and I can't imagine ai being able to replicate the action of being able to control where exactly the line and color is and their qualities for the user without getting a robot arm wired to your head

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>>215645864
Oh that's because it can't, it's soulless shit

>>215645864
>>215645894
you understand "soul" doesn't matter, right?
media has been shitting out soulless garbage for decades without needing AI, once they actually catch up to it, it'll probably lead to an increase in general quality if nothing else

>>215644732
It’s called citizen cane

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>>215634452
Never

>>215634452
I'll give it by the end of this decade.

>>215645864

>develop a style
>train an AI to replicate your style
>now you can simply sketch things out an the AI will finish it up for you, using your style
>you can still adjust the final look by hand if you want to

This shaves off 95% of the tedious work of getting shit finalized, which matters in a lot of cases where volume of work is important like in animation or comics. It speeds up work tremendously, especially of one's style requires a lot of work to finalize (shading, etc..)
It's a tremendous tool and like any tool it has to be used proficiently.

>>215635175
Just sell your soul bro haha who cares about the human spirit anyway

>>215635175
What in gods name is this Pepe?

>>215638074
Kino

>>215645356
>>215645259
>>215644504
just tried grok on alison brie
did some naughty shit
what the fuck

>>215646218
Post the results for scientific analysis pls

>>215638074
Serves that pig right. Also I kinda enjoyed this

>>215635175
We need a new Ted

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Why do troons hate AI so much?
They told blue collar workers to "learn how to code." Maybe they should take their own advice.

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>>215646346
>look fellow 4channeler! the enemy hates ai, so lets embrace it!
No.

>>215646346
A lot of them are furry artists. AI is killing their client base.

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I am excited and cautiously optimistic about being able to very soon render my own kino of some of the ideas that I have floating around in my head that I think would be entertaining. However, i still maintain some very specific ideas that would have to be finetuned, so I'm not ruling out nosediving into CGI and 3D modelling and such.

Starting your shift early, eh, Devansh?

>>215646522
You're going to die waiting.

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>>215635175
WW3 is going to start because of AI and not because they are going to take over like terminator. It's because some boomer general or politican will mistake an ai video of a nuke being fired.

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>>215646522
>its another "idea guy thinks ai is the answer to his laziness" episode

>>215646398
if I can make softcore porn of any woman I want and it also makes trannies mad, I will support AI until my dying breath

>>215646627
I didn't ask.

>>215646715
Yes, you did. Troon.

>>215634452
Would people actually want to make AI movies, it's strongest advocats only care about >>215646627 and most SFW AI projects are just fan media. If you make anything original it usually gets ignored. Yeah there are those AI videos about dogs and cats that get 10 million views but that's not the type of content people take seriously.

>>215635161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWHNA_j7h5A

>>215643986
I'm pretty sure Dash wasn't supposed to be a toddler

>>215646587
>>215646601
NTA but that outlook is completely realistic

>>215634452
within the next 5 years for sure

AI video will either take over media or be banned completely because of all the porn, and one of those things will happen soon
the current bubble is already contracting fast

>>215634452
next year

>>215640016
KEK

>>215647304
>the current bubble is already contracting fast
i read they lose 3 dollars for every 1 dollar made LOL

>>215647082
Pretty sure you don't know what a toddler looks like.

>>215647356
I don't even mean that, I primarily mean most of the public facing visual AI resources are cracking down NSFW content more every day, odds are good someone is going to make their own grok equivalent but unmoderated completely as the selling point, that'll last just long enough to upset people, and either that leads to a massive ban
or restrictions that are easily bypassed because someone already made an "indie" movie using AI and it's gets award buzz so they can't possibly ban it completely because big studios would immediately try to ape that

Something being a bubble doesn't mean it is worthless it means it is overvalued by investors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble
Between 1995 and its peak in March 2000, investments in the NASDAQ composite stock market index rose by 600%, only to fall 78% from its peak by October 2002, giving up all its gains during the bubble. A lot of tech companies went bust, but many learned from the experience. Apple, Amazon all learned from the experience and came out better for it
There was a similar pattern with Automobiles. When Ford first released the Model-T there was a huge opportunity. But as time went on the opportunity shrank. After 5 or 10 years everyone who wanted one already had one. It was only yearly models and planned obsolescence that made it possible to sell cars to the same person over and over again instead of a one and done purchase.
I think people are naive about the nature of innovation and business

>>215647384
I don't think you could ban it, patent and copyright violations aside.

>>215646188
I call it the "newfag confounder"

>>215646346
why did they say retard three times in a row?

>>215647466
shutting down all the free sites and grok removing its visual component would be enough to wipe it from public consciousness

>>215647525
Maybe in the UK or Germany, where free speech is up for grabs by whoever won an election.

>>215647384
so? just local gen runs fine on my 7900xtx on windows

>>215645971
Saar...

>>215643986
violet reminds me of anya taylor joy for some reason

>>215647356
They don't care about money because they already own the money printer. It's always been about control.

>>215645023
>its still human prompted and human tech therefore its still human

>The robot is still human because uhh it's human tech

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AI will never be able to do videos, it can't even do hands.
I will always be able to tell when something is AI because I'm not a jeet.
AI is bad because it requires no effort (I believe in the Marxist-Leninist labor theory of value)
also le AI slop is soulless because AI is soulless (no divine spark of life given to us by God the Father) the same way cinema is soulless because produced by godless cameras.

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>>215634452
OH FUCKING HELL YEAH

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generative AI already peaked like 2 years ago
it hasn't gotten any better since.

you'll never get a proper fully AI generated movie where you can't instantly tell it's AI generated

>>215648692
>>215648723
kek

>>215634452
Never, because AI can't into object permanence for longer than 15 seconds, let alone 90 plus minutes. Among other things.

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>>215636876
>>215637072

>>215635405
His name is Elliot

Not even sure where to start with AI, how do I train it on things, and how does it recognise styles? what are the local models and how does it get going? Or are local models now useless because it requires a datacenter?

>>215637138
>Once someone figures out a workflow that doesn’t need a full animation pipeline, it’s over.
and so is my patronage

>>215648695
>Porn of Ann actually fucking her husband
Wow

>>215649208
That's her son.

>>215635327
I remember when AI models were released to the public first like 3 years ago and the amount of people seething that it was terrible and could never make photorealistic pictures, then that it could never portray Garfield or anatomically correct hands, or then that it could never make full videos. It's all cope by people resistant to change and by paid artists/wannabe artists being made obsolete. Graphic design is dead as a career and copywriting as well. Pretty much every event poster I see these days is obviously AI prompted then spit out, no more paying some art school dropout 200$ a pop for a poster.

I fear that my attempts to control my fapping would be rendered useless if I can just generate what porn I want.

>>215648929
>Not even sure where to start with AI
Just pick a generic online LLM, and start asking it for help doing stuff. Generally, stuff that has objective qualities to it, like coding. I've long since forgotten everything I knew about CSS, Javascript, and HTML, but in the past few months I've basically vibe-coded all kinds of crazy projects I could never do on my own.

>how do I train it on things
You kinda don't. I mean, you CAN, but it's a complex process and generally not worth it for yourself. If you want to get into image generation, people make things called LORAs that are basically add-on chunks of training data for specific things like art style, specific people, poses, etc. But you can do this with other things like coding knowledge, design styles, whatever.

>and how does it recognise styles?
It doesn't. You tell it what words mean what information. So if for example you tack on to your ComfyUI (local image generation) setup a LORA trained on Jennifer Aniston, it'll come with trigger words that you need to put in the prompt to tell the system to use that information.

>what are the local models and how does it get going?
This is where the first bit will help you because it's kind of complex. There's lots of models for lots of different things. For image generation you'd download something like ComfyUI and then you'd download models like Flux or StableDiffusion. For local chat, you'd probably download something like OpenWebUI and then Ollama, which is a chat model.

>Or are local models now useless because it requires a datacenter?
Useless, no, but you're pretty much limited in what you can do reasonably by your GPU and its' VRAM, which unless you're running a custom system with multiple cards, you're going to be very limited on, which means your local results will be slower and "dumber" than anything you can do via some giant cloud service.

>>215649223
Oh thank God I thought we had completely degenerated

>>215637138
>Studios are definitely running internal tests right now (Netflix, Disney, even A24 probably). Once someone figures out a workflow that doesn’t need a full animation pipeline, it’s over.
I'm 100% certain that S4 True Detective & the series From are completely AI written as a sort of trial to see how audiences receive AI plotlines. In TD the director used AI to generate a bunch of background posters for some reason and in an interview, one of the actors said the script was borderline incomprehensible until the main actors got together to rewrite some of it

>>215649350
t. brown

>>215646599
it's more likely because shitty AI like we currently have (not AGI or superintelligence that may come in the distant future) will give bad advice to some midwit politician's midwit staff. That seems to be what happened with Trump's original tariff calculations. They just asked chatgpt for stats on other countries' tariffs on us, and used whatever it gave them, instead of actually doing the homework of figuring that out for hundreds of cunts.

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>>215649343
>You don't.
You do.

>>215648692
>>215648770
Yes but eventually it will be able to, you fucking tards. Are you aware that tech develops? Remember the will smith eating spaghetti and now we have completely realistic short clips that look real except for a few things that give it away. Eventually the hand issues will be resolved. I for one welcome the loss of jobs that will occur for all the DEI hires that have ruined cinema.

>>215643971
nice and more?

>>215650056
>Yes but eventually it will be able to
Based on what evidence?

>>215638074
this had more soul than anything made by netflix

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No-one's going to pay to watch AI slop.

>>215634452
>no nudity
We still have ways to go

>>215635175
AI is a human invention. It's all manmade

>>215635161
I want a redhead hottie with green eyes not a nigger bitch

>>215642631
The world can change around you and so can your passions. Don't be a weiner man.

I made a bunch of videos of my sister getting throat fucked. Along with a bunch of other girls I know irl. Pretty much all AI is good for right now

>>215635175
Get a grip is my advice to you.

>>215651777
Based

>>215650466
The progression its already made is proof enough. Christ almighty retards shouldnt be able to post here. It may take a lot of time & prompts but they will 100% be able to produce AI movies using oversight and heavy curating from a human. Eventually human curating may not even be needed.

>>215651777
That's fucked you made some of your sister wow. Did some weird occurrence happen in your youth for you to do this?
Based for doing it with other babes though, as a Britbong I have to use a VPN now to access the sites. I can understand why its frowned upon though but its too damn good to not watch.

>>215644532
This looks like some sort of Terry Gilliam film.

>>215652122
People said either Gilliam or Ken Russell the first time this was posted

>>215650435
i can't believe this thread is still up
https://aigc.uploads.dev/image/ff142bcab0e5852c9262e72273a3547b4fcb070c7a590e2e4c933dd230782b0f.jpeg

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>>215635175
This indicates only that you are still sane.

>>215650466
No response to >>215652009
as expected.
>>215651777
Hello? Can you answer >>215652071 please? I have a sister and she is the last person I would want to see in a deep fake.

>>215645813
Is this a modern Lord Jim?

>>215643460
>there should be a requirement
yeah because that always works

>>215644024
find a better comfort character

>>215644686
good morning

>>215634452
>try making sexy video on Grok
>"Video moderated. Try a different idea."
It'll never happen.

>>215634452
I would guess a maximum of five years before we see almost all movies made using AI.
There is so much investment going into the space that the technology is going to improve at ridiculous speeds over the next five years.
Hollywood is culturally and creatively bankrupt and refuses to give the people what they want. This vacuum means that the space is likely going to be filled with AI as entrepreneurs rush to take advantage.

>>215645146
>that takes 15 seconds on grok
>Video Moderated

>>215646627
good goy

>>215644208
This.
The fact it even makes you question what the hell you're even looking at is irrefutable proof it fits every true art criteria ever.

>>215653590
If you have the power you can always run it locally, and there are other video generators out there that are uncensored.

>Automatically remove DEI slop from post 2015 franchise movies with AI
>this is supposed to be a bad thing

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>>215634452
This actually happens in the show. Even if it’s cheer shorts still odd and funny they made this and obvious like that

>>215653599
If Hollywood, Netflix etc hadn't been pumping out anti white male propaganda for the last decade I might give a fuck. I hope as many jobs are lost as possible.

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>>215635161
Crazy, probably haven't thought about this motherfucker since I was a kid.

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>>215654127

>>215653900
Any other moments like this where the skirt actually moves or it’s a similar style behind her shot in other shows or movies? That is a little wow for disney. Later star vs the forces of evil

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>>215634452
Wont happen. AI is just too unpredictable to ever be usable in anything other than 10 second clips.
It doesnt understand continuity, neither physical, spatial, emotional so trying to string together shots is an ardeous task of sifting through hundreds of AI renders for something that looks close enough.

You can watch vids from people who pump out AI slop for kids on youtube, it's off putting at best and fucking atrocious most of the time.

Any studio attempting this would quickly realise that using AI to make entire full lenght feature films would require so much manpower, so much post, so much editing, VFX to correct continuity errors and odd looking AI shit, not to mention color correct every shot because again, AI cant do continuity. They would quickly realise its just cheaper to make a movie the old way.^

AI have reached the point now that training new models becomes exponentially more expensive and resource heavy and any improvement will be incrimental. Shit is all ready starting to stagnate heavily.

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>>215654295
This is where the fat guy who's never used this tech shakes his head and insists the tech will improve while those of us who do use it know better

>>215654295
This. AI will NEVER be able to refer to a master character model or master background model, because no one will ever make an AI that can do that.

>>215654295
anon. you were saying "ai will never able to do hands" last year.

>>215646829
There are countless books that have never been adapted for whatever reason that would be easily created by AI. I would be happy to see AI translations of all the Discworld books without shitty casting choices and poorly written dialogue.

>>215653960
I would like to see multiple suicides as a result.

>>215654422
Let me guess.
Extremely liberal.
Voted for Kamala.
Libshits love disingenuous strawmanning like this

>>215654295
t. Paul Krugman.

>>215654403
You clueless, man? Almost every character has a LoRA. I'm not saying everything's perfect but you can literally load a specific character or background model or both into StableDiffusion or one of it's versions locally. I do this all the time.

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Remember when people weren't scared of change?

>>215654530
>my strawman loves strawmanning

>>215654566
This movie bombed man, destroyed Square forever in a lot of ways

>>215654422
And AI videos look the same now as they did 12 months ago.
People have this weird notion that whenever a new technology comes out, it's just going to improve over time in a linear fashion.
Most, if not all technology hit the wall of diminishing returns where making minute improvements require so much resources that it's not viable anymore. Essentially things get good enough and trying to make it better is just to damn expensive to be economically viable.
It took humans 40 years from the first airplaine to breaking the soundbarrier, yet we're still flying around in essentially the same commercial airplanes from the 70's and the fastest airplane remains the SR-71 from 1976.

The same thing is happening with AI right now and I dont think we'll see any mindblowing new improvements to AI untill someone manages to create an actual AI.

>>215654555
>You clueless, man?
The post was obviously sarcastic.

>>215654604
>airplanes will never replace trains, because airplanes can't fly above rough weather.

>>215635616
So like Kim Possible and her little cousin? I'm okay with this. How would one make this just out of curiosity?

>>215654604
>AI videos look the same now as they did 12 months ago

They objectively do not. 12 months ago the best results were just from image-to-image on every frame. now they're being generated from scratch.

>>215635867
>Marasoft Sam

>>215654606
Was it?

>>215654604
Retard no they DONT.
Stop posting walls of text when you dont even know what you are talking about.
All they need as a human media curator / overseer to resolve the AI sloppage and that will be the only employee needed by corps.
As far as infrastructure goes. They will build it as necessary. As its going to render many many jobs useless.

>>215654646
follow instructions for how to install and use stablediffusion locally, which you can find in different general threads on /e/, /h/, or /aco/, then go to civit ai dot com and search for the characters of your choice (both which you named are on there)

smells like alot of "put all my lifesavings into nvidia" in here

Uncreative minds don't realize you can just touch up AI drawings yourself with the same skill you had previously used to make the entire image before AI. So bad hands aren't an issue when you can just redraw the hands yourself (or even use AI again to touch up regions of the image)

guys Macromedia Flash has motion tweens, people aren't really ANIMATING any more!
guys Photoshop means people are doing DIGITAL illustrations, painting is dead.
guys if you put 3D models into 3ds Max, it just 'renders' them for you, wtf?

>>215654741
well, spending millions of dollars and having hundreds of people commit hundreds of manhours to create 90 minutes of fiction is dead.

>>215654663
>this thing that you can already do will never happen
idk

>>215654715
AI can't do inpainting.

>>215654770
True, now they'll spend millions of dollars having hundreds of people commit hundred of manhours watching through tens of thousands of AI renders, trying to cobble together something that doesnt look like complete ass.

>>215654817
its really amazing how stupid you are

>>215654770
be honest though: you never really cared about all those names in the credits. everyone in the film crew just sees it as their job.
only writers, actors (and voice actors, for some reason) act all precious about it.

>>215654800
Yes it can?

>>215654846
show me any model that can put out a 5 minute video without continutiy errors and the usual AI slop

>>215654876
why do you keep setting goalposts you're just going to have to move in a few months?

>>215634452
Never. As long as The Chinese Government gives Pajeets access to heavily subsidized or sometime even free advanced AI specifically to fuck with Western streaming sites like YouTube it will never happen. The idea is that the Jeet can crank out content, monetize it, and then take away that section of the cash flow from Western Markets.

>>215654909
>cars will be able to fly in the future
I'll take that as a no

>>215654876
See >>215654674
First it was all filmed in house with props and models, then it was in house CGI, then it became outsource to India because the CGI is cheaper, the successor to this is making 90% of media via AI with a man / team to curate and correct the fucked up bits. Can you even fathom how much cheaper that will be for them?,a higher elec bill as opposed to hundreds of employees with unions and shit. Fuck the lot of them i say bring on the mass redundancy of the people pumping out the crap these days

>>215655023
so you're just embittered from so many broken futurist promises and now view all advancement, even advancement that is happening directly under your nose, as impossible.

>>215655050
>even advancement that is happening directly under your nose, as impossible.
No, I just recognise people trying to pump stocks.
There are alot of use cases for AI. Healthcare, analysis, diagnosis and so on. Entertainment, hardly.

>so you're just embittered
See>>215655035
>Fuck the lot of them i say bring on the mass redundancy of the people pumping out the crap these days

>>215655136
the "stock pump" is for training, not generating. but of course you know that, as you're not stupid.

>>215654646
No, when I say synthetic data, that just means using AI output as the data set for a new model. They've been trying this because they've already scraped literally any image they can find off the internet, and they still need a bigger data set, and now with more and more AI slop out there, any new data they scrape will be full of AI generated stuff.
If you play around with generative AI long enough you start to notice it tends towards the same handful of poses and composition, if you use these images as references it reinforces that, and instead of become more versatile, it becomes less versatile.
Now if you could teleport to say an alternate reality, and scrape all of their internet for images to use to train, then you might see a really big increase in what it is capable of putting out, but the reality is, at least for generative AI, it is going to start plateauing unless and until someone can figure out the next kludge.

>>215655324
>it is going to start plateauing
two more weeks right

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>>215655136
>Entertainment, hardly.
I can absolutely come up with some use-cases for how you could use generative AI in entertainment without it being suits at sony, or WB, or disney saying "How can we make this even cheaper, faster, but now with 100% less creativity!"
And it is a fun toy to play around with on a personal level.

>>215655136
Yeah idgaf call it whatever you like but all modern media is utterly shit and even normalfags have noticed this. It just took them a few more years to see the decline.

>>215655344
Go read the papers on it anon, if you're going to defend this so jeetishly you might as well know what the fuck you're talking about first.

>>215655392
chatgtp has nothing to do with video generation.

>>215654127
Heh.

>>215635175
It’s obvious when it’s slop you have to be an autist to not see the difference

>>215644450
>will only ever be good for the best thing possible
ok

>>215655408
What the fuck are you talking about Samesh?
You do realize video generation is just generating multiple images in sequence, right?

>>215635161
sauce? this is my actual fetish

>>215634452
There are multiple ai movies released

>>215655569
your meme about how anyone who talks about ai in any way other than dismissive is indian is from a chart showing chatgpt usage by country. chatgpt has nothing to do with video generation.

>>215646398
>look fellow 4channeler!
lol ew no it's not anything like that. I'd sooner peel skin off my body with a rusty knife then ever give a fuck about what the subhuman, retarded, pedophilic, Demonic entities on 4chan thinks or feels about anything. About 99% here are lower than maggots and complete losers in every way.

>>215645894
Which means it'll do just fine among a sea of soulless slop already produced by humans

>>215646587
You wish that was the case. I can tell you really really wish that's what's going to happen, but reality doesn't bend to your feelings lil bro

>>215654566
People hated that movie.

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i am a moron, i can only do images, in civai, but videos my crappy laptop wont cut it, it's there a online img2video that works or its cheaper?, comfyui video wont work in my laptop, it's gronk uncensored?.

>>215655636
>non sequitur defensive gibberish to deflect from the fact that he still doesn't know what he's talking about

>>215656668
>its a non-sequitur to point out why i'm screaming jeet at everyone