a cuck lmao
he's just like me
/tv/ in the middle
>>215660411This remind me of that movie where the dude dies cave diving and a year later his dad walks his sons now former ex onto the altar so she can kss her new husband
doesnt he get a gf in the sequel
>>215660411This movie made me ask my parents to buy me a gun
>>215660411Who cares, she's for the streets
Cuckihomo predicted all this
Holy shit is hunchback of notre dame incel-core?
I remember seeing this as a kid and being confused as to why Disney was sending me the message that ugly, short people don't deserve love. My expectations were genuinely subverted and I feel like that's not what you want for a Disney movie. Like "Oh, surely Esmerelda will see his noble sacrifices and fall in love with hom based on his personality" but she ends up with Captain Chad.I guess I dont really get what the moral of the story was supposed to be in this movie
>>215664046Quasimodo is honestly a better person than you or I, the whole point of it is that despite everything he endured, he was still a kind, innocent, noble soul who did the right thing. He was even happy for Esmeralda and Prince Thundercock at the end, even though she only saw him as a friend. All of this despite being a freakish "monster". Compare this to Frollo who was respected, powerful, and arguably attractive (or at the very least not deformed) yet did nothing but act cruelly and selfishly towards others. The message is literally spelled out for you in the opening song:>Who is the monster and who is the man?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4COfl8DMB8&list=RDc4COfl8DMB8&start_radio=1
>>215664360Did you just admit that you find Frollo attractive?
>>215660411even as a small child when this came out, this confused the hell out of me. Why would you end it like this? what is the moral of the story here?
>>215664414Don't pretend like you wouldn't bro
>>215664360Personally, I'd say the ghoulish freak is the monster, but that's just me.
The Better Man of Notre Dame
>>215664046Same. In every single Disney movie I'd seen up to that point there was a happily ever after with man and woman that I had begun to associate with the brand (and all of fiction) so when it just didn't happen here I felt so bad for Quasimodo that I cried. He was just going to be a kindhearted guy with a wild imagination walking to rocks for the rest of his life and never having a wife or making children of his own. It was devastating for like 7 year old me. How could your ever write your main character and then not satisfy them to the best of your ability? Sad junk.
>>215664646Agreed, Quasi should have murdered Captain Phoebus, and then raped Esmeralda because she owed him sex.He also should have killed all the peasants , including the women and children, for throwing fruit at him on topsy turvy day. He deserved to get revenge on the world for the way he was treated, that's what it means to be a good person.
>>215664360>slave morality>demonizes Christianity>promotes gypsies and racemixingIt's all so tiring
>>215660411>gypsy girlshe probably picked their pockets
Who was in the wrong here?
>>215662299Bruh she prolly just as chopped as he is xDD
>>215664819NTA but this movie is probably the most positive portrayal of christianity you're ever going to get in a kids movie. Unless you mean american evangelical christianity, which is basically devil worship
>>215664046>I guess I dont really get what the moral of the story was supposed to be in this movieWell, the original novel's moral of the story was "amor caecus", and the novel didn't have blatantly "good" and "bad" characters, most of them were in gray area.Unfortunately, faithfully adapting the novel doesn't work for little kids, so Disney changed the story for it to work not just for adults but for kids as well (enter the annoying gargoyle trio) and changed moral of the story from "amor caecus" to "who is the monster and who is the man", as >>215664360 explained.UNFORTUNATELY, there's a huge glaring issue with this moral - Disney already used it five years prior to Hunchback.Beauty and the Beast IS a perfect example of "who is the monster and who is the man" that works way, way better than retconned story of Notre-Dame de Paris - Beast is a literal monster yet he acts like a person who REALLY tries to improve upon himself (aka the reason he was cursed in the first place). And you never see pre-beast asshole Prince because there's no need for that - Gaston is literally that version of Prince but in current time: handsome outside but a total monster inside. And the story works much better with its morale because that's what original story went for as well (love between a girl and monster-prince).Hunchback tried to outdo Gaston by making an archdeacon (aka some religious higher-up) more ruthless towards everyone and more obsessive with his "love interest", but it didn't work because Quasimodo never had a chance with Esmeralda (unlike Beast with Belle) and wingman as MC doesn't work well in this story.
>>215665397>>215664360That anon isn't really interested in the answers you're providing. This thread is just thinly veiled /pol/ propaganda intended to get teenaged males to take the blackpill.
>>215664360Frollo did nothing wrong
>>215664850I work with mentally retarded adults for a living and most of them are pretty cool and lead happy lives despite their disability. In a way they're the lucky ones, they never have to worry about taxes or bills or relationship drama, they get to play Sonic the Hedgehog and go bowling and basically be 10 years old forever.But that bottom 10% or so I genuinely feel bad for and wonder if euthanasia would be more humane than letting them live. Like retarded to the point where they're unable to form a sentence or thought and can't even use the most basic words. There's one guy I work with who is like 50 and if you give him a cookie in a ziploc bag, he'll bite right through the bag trying to get to it and take no notice of the fact that he just ate a bunch of plastic.When people are appalled by my opinion I ask them if they would want to go on living if they were in some sort of accident and were stricken deaf. They always say yes. What about blind, I ask. Yes, they would want to keep living and they would adapt. Then I ask them, what if you got a traumatic brain injury that was so bad you regressed to having the intellect of a three year-old, shitting your pants and not being able to read, write, or speak? Nobody wants to live like that, so I don't get why we make other people do it. I'm not spiritual, but if you believe in an immortal soul it seems especially cruel to shackle someone to a body and a brain that is completely unable to function.To answer your question though, Quasi is just butt-ugly and if it were set 300 years in the future he would be posting here and lusting after Sydney Sweeney, there's no real reason to kill him.
>>215665445I actually am interested in everyone's analysis of this story, and if anything is an incel blackpill, it was this movie./pol/ is living in your head rent free btw
>>215665548>I work with mentally retarded adults for a livingJannies get paid now?
>>215664360Man there is only few anon with brain that acutally post good stuff grom time to time thanks mr anon
>>215660411He was smart. No good things come out of a relationship with a woman. It's best to be alone because this way you have peace. Bro, the few seconds of pleasure you feel during sex are not worth the years of misery that comes after. Man don't realize but their weakest spot is women.
>>215664850The priest was being mercyful. Would you really want to live like a mutilated freak, an abomination? The priest was being mercyful. It's the same way with a bird in my house. It fell out of its nest and then I knew it was fucked. I did not want to end its misery because I took pity on it. But today I went to check the little bird out and something eat it. Only the broken wings remained. It would have been better if I killed the bird when I did find it on the ground. It would have been less painful than being eat alive by some other creature, probably a cat.
>>215666316ESL or bot?
>>215666333The priest was being mercyful. Would you really want to live like a mutilated freak, an abomination? The priest was being mercyful. It's the same way with a bird in my house. It fell out of its nest and then I knew it was fucked. I did not want to end its misery because I took pity on it. But today I went to check the little bird out and something eat it. Only the broken wings remained. It would have been better if I killed the bird when I did find it on the ground. It would have been less painful than being eat alive by some other creature, probably a cat.
>>215666350The priest was being mercyful. Would you really want to live like a mutilated freak, an abomination? The priest was being mercyful. It's the same way with a bird in my house. It fell out of its nest and then I knew it was fucked. I did not want to end its misery because I took pity on it. But today I went to check the little bird out and something eat it. Only the broken wings remained. It would have been better if I killed the bird when I did find it on the ground. It would have been less painful than being eat alive by some other creature, probably a cat.
>>215662299No, but he raises the bulls child ;)>>215665576So not you?
>>215666333I'm just saying that in a real life situation like that presented in the movie, where you have a baby who is practically a monster, a deformed entity, then it is better to kill the baby. The spartans or greeks were right when they killed babies who were defective. This sound cruel to the common stupid person because that person probably is normal, but trust me, if you are not a normal person it would be better to not even exist. So I just know the priest was being mercyful. Dude, what happened during the sex in order to generate a monstrous creature? Something went wrong. Being born defective is a curse. Being born ugly is a curse. If your parents kill you because you were defective they were beinh good to you.
>>215666417The priest was being mercyful. Would you really want to live like a mutilated freak, an abomination? The priest was being mercyful. It's the same way with a bird in my house. It fell out of its nest and then I knew it was fucked. I did not want to end its misery because I took pity on it. But today I went to check the little bird out and something eat it. Only the broken wings remained. It would have been better if I killed the bird when I did find it on the ground. It would have been less painful than being eat alive by some other creature, probably a cat.
>>215664046Little boys shouldn't watch Disney movies. They'll either make them gay or cucks. They should only really watch documentaries about shit like nature, sports and war, good action movies and at worst they can watch DreamWork movies which are just zionist propaganda without too much gaygenda (compared to Disney).
>>215666513You have to be a pretty colossal fag to be against Humanism anon
>>215666417>>215666439According to your own logic you should have been aborted because you're a retard who can't spell the most basic words correctly beyond a 3rd grade level.
>>215666548The priest was being mercyful. Would you really want to live like a mutilated freak, an abomination? The priest was being mercyful. It's the same way with a bird in my house. It fell out of its nest and then I knew it was fucked. I did not want to end its misery because I took pity on it. But today I went to check the little bird out and something eat it. Only the broken wings remained. It would have been better if I killed the bird when I did find it on the ground. It would have been less painful than being eat alive by some other creature, probably a cat.
>>215666513The more I think about "Hunchback" the more I start to realize that it is, like most Disney movies, a movie for girls. They just tricked boys into going to see it because it didn't openly involve a princess.As a boy you see it and you self insert as the hunchback because he's the main character. He's cool and acrobatic and nice and he's friends with talking gargoyles. But as a woman, you self-insert as the hooker who has like 3 different men fighting over her and ends up setting off a chain of events that burns half of Paris to the ground, only to marry Chad and escape with zero consequences.Actually, as memory serves, I think Esmerelda was the most popular girls' Halloween costume the year this came out.
>>215666561it do be like that mister stancil
>>215663787It's about a priest who seethes because he can't fuck Esmeralda, what do you think
>>215664819>>slave morality>>demonizes Christianityare you 'tarded bro?
>>215660411third wheel
>>215666622the only good Disney movie is 101 Dalmatians.
>>215664360Based post.>>215667164He's not wrong. There aren't any positive depictions of Christianity in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. It's something you start noticing if you look for it in other films and series and whatnot. For instance, the children's show Rugrats has a lot of hubba about Judaism because the show is made primarily by Jews. Not one good thing to say about Christianity.
>>215666547See >>215666622
>>215666513Truly this was the lesson. But Hercules, Tarzan, and Emporers New Groove kept me on the hook. Then Pixar kept bringing the hits. Really wasn't until a breakup that I realized Disney was pretty lousy. Nothing has been the same since they misaimed with Frozen and absolutely failed Marvel and Star Wars
>>215666513>>215668149Movies don't matter at all. I don't remember how anything I watched when I was younger shaped me. What actually shaped me was my dad not giving me any guidance about anything at all. Going to work, coming home, neglecting his whole family. That's what led me to films, video games, etc. I'm not a better 31 year old because I watched FMJ on repeat when I was 13. I'm worse for all that wasted time not being guided by the adult male figure in my life who was supposed to.
>>215664360You lost me when you called Frollo attractive
Anyone else notice that Drive and The Hunchback have a similar plot point?
>>215668227Haven't seen Hunchback. Does the hooker girl get her face blown off?https://youtu.be/tQ6A7gTsQRI?t=206
>>215668201Listen if your father is gonna neglect you it's probably a better thing that you watch T2 on loop and play MGS then join the Marines when you turn 18 than watch Disney movies and end up trooning out. We all wish our dads weren't alcoholics anon but barring that at least we have had decent kino to keep us from becoming total degenerates who actively contribute to the destruction of society.
What even makes a Hunchback? I always thought he'd be fine if you just hacked it off and failed to account there might be nerves or that he's got, like, bones in his shit. Can't cut it off if it's basically his anatomy. I mean he's a guy not a Bulbasaur.Man what am I talking about
>>215668274>at least we have had decent kino to keep us from becoming total degenerates who actively contribute to the destruction of society.
>>215668274The kicker is the kids who troon out have neglectful dads, too. I've been seeing this zoomer girl. Her pops is working class like mine was, but much nicer. He goes to work, comes home, they share a hug and a laugh, but he notably has never asked her about her day, or what her plans are. Has never guided her. Before I met her, she was on her way to thinking she was a man because her father left her on the internet unsupervised since 10. I'll grant you that when you and I were young, we had a less than 0 chance of trooning out while being on the internet because the internet as a whole was a man's playground and nobody else's. But what I'm saying is, dem keeds who are trooning out? Their pops isn't paying attention. That's where it starts, no guidance. Disney's just another mother fucker with a fishing hook, along with those discords and whatever the fuck goes on. So if anyone passing by who reads this is stupid enough to think>Yeah I'll show my son(s) Predator that'll make him not want to troon out :)it's showing GOOD values with RESULTS. That's what emboldens future generations. Anything less leads allows them to be led astray as wander from escapism to escapism.
>>215668372>Anything less leads allows them to be led astray as wander from escapism to escapism.Fuck. I meant to say>Anything less allows them to be led astray as they wander from escapism to escapism.
>>215664360This. We must be better men
>>215668372I don't even remember ever seeing trannies on the internet before a certain point, or if I did it was for comedic effect and nobody took them seriously
>>215664539imagine punting him like a football
>>215663659>Cuckihomowhy are you guys so mean lmao
post the cuck webm.
>>215663659Who did wha
>>215660411a gypsy whore.
>>215664360>Pumbaa but he grey>Jasmine but skin lightening creamDisney always sucked.
>>215660411I dont understand why he not just fuck her?
>>215670933this. love from kazakhstan
>>215670933That's exactly what Phoebus did in original novelAnd the dumb bitch's demise was that she couldn't forget his cock
>he was right
>>215660411Test
>>215660411Yes
>>215660411Esmeralda died in the book
It’s weird that this movie is like 80% shitty but Hellfire happens in the middle of it
>>215660411Just a reminder that no matter how heroic, selfless, kind, honorable, and caring you may be, in the end looks will be the defining factor. If you're ugly, you can have the absolute perfect personality and be considered an amazing person but if you're ugly all that doesn't matter. You will not get the woman you want. Meanwhile, chad thundercock, can be a complete douchebag but be treated as if he is a god and get any woman he wants.
>>215671767>Meanwhile, chad thundercock, can be a complete douchebag but be treated as if he is a god and get any woman he wants.The novel hits this message even harder than Disney adaptationCase #1>Pierre: I didn't get money to pay the rent and I followed Esmeralda in hopes that she'd let me rest somewhere for the night.>Esmeralda: you fucked up by following me, but I'll save your ass by doing sham marriage with you. No touching, though - my ass is for Chad Thundercock.>Pierre: then what's the point, go die in the gallows as I save your goat over your ass.Case #2>Quasimodo: I'm too ugly and my face was mauled by dogs when I was a kid, nobody cares about me outside of Frollo>Esmeralda: omg poor thing, here's some water, ok bye I need to go find Chad Thundercock>Quasimodo: WTF she's a goddess, I'll do everything for her sake from now onCase #3>Frollo: I'm too autistic and have no idea how love works, woman pls explain>Esmeralda: sorry, don't care, I only care about Chad Thundercock>Frollo: I HATE CHAD THUNDERCOCK AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING TO RUIN YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIMCase #4>Phoebe: haha benis in bagina, lemme fuck you bitch>Esmeralda: OH YES FUCK ME CHAD THUNDERCOCK>Phoebe: haha that was nice, ok back to FleurAnd the following outcome>Frollo: Esmeralda, I will save you from the gallows if you accept my love>Esmeralda: NO, I ONLY CARE ABOUT CHAD THUNDERCOCK>Gudule: Esmeralda, I am your long-lost mother, keep your mouth shut and I'll save you from the gallows>Esmeralda: CHAD THUNDERCOOOOOOOCK, WHERE ARE YOU>Phoebe: hahaha who the fuck are you bitch>Esmeralda: *dies*
>>215660411>marrying had off to a gypsy whoreSounds based to me.
>>215664360Sorry bro, the number one goal in life as a man is to impregnate a woman. Quasimodo failed in his quest and is a deadend.
>>215664046Because they don't.They should all be killed before they grow too jaded, so maybe they'll get a shot at a better existence in the afterlife if one exists.
>>215668280The spine is crooked and that what makes the hunch I think
