Why was Nam so fucking kino?
>it ain't me starts playing
Coping with losing the war
>>215664216Better soundtrack than WWII.
helicopters are coolm16s look cool even if they were pieces of shit in the actual warsoundtrack was cooljungles are cooltense atmosphere where you can be ambushed at any time is coolnapalm is cool
>>215664216Because war is fucking cool.
>>215664216 best asthetics
>>215664240>Coping with losing the warDid anyone really win or lose in 'Nam? To me it seems like a net negative for every party involved, with the exception of a few small groups who were puppeteering everything. It caused mass psychological issues for so many American soldiers, where they either went mentally deranged or because permanently traumatized. The Vietnamese people got to be guinea pigs for chemical warfare. The whole event was a cluster fuck of mass proportions. I guess Americans can claim that 'they won'. But, what did they really win?
>modern man vs primitive man>culture clashClassic storytelling tropes
It was real bareknuckle stuff, just pure human nature. Pungi sticks, napalm, none of the contrived honour or "rules of engagement" garbage. And for nothing, there was no Hitler to stop. It was a cruel savage bloody conflict for no reason, and that's pretty cool.
>>215664588Yeah there was never any real objective beyond "waste as many gooks as you can find" so the pointlessness of it makes good kino
>>215664238>what’s that sound starts playing
>>215664216Best musicBest uniformsBest equipment
I need an airstrike on a pack of niggers!
>new soldier takes a hit of marijuana >One pill begins playing
>>215664603>gooksThey weren't wasting gooks in Vietnam, you lazy racist. If you're going to use racial slurs at least have the intelligence to use the correct ones. The Vietnamese are not gooks.
>>215664627>bird is the word starts playing>aint no senators son starts playing>FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK YEAAAAAHHH! starts playing>run through the jungle starts playing>RAPE, MURDER ITS JUST A SHOT AWAY starts playing>ALL DAY LONG I THINK OF THINGS BUT NOTHING SEEMS TO SATISFY starts playing>BREAK ON THROUGH starts playing>eat more chicken than any man starts playing
>>215664454americans won the cold war and vietnam was a battle of the cold war
>>215664877the song is called go ask alice
>>215664454It's the governments that have the goals of war, not the soldiers or the people.The North Vietnamese government fully achieved their end goal, and the US and South Vietnamese government failed.But, well, this has nothing to do with the movies
>>215664454>it seems like a net negative for every party involvedthat's the korean war, the vietnamese clearly did win by getting rid of foreign occupation and uniting their country
>>215664955silver spoon starts playing
>>215664901they called them gooks even back then retard
why didn't americans just push into north vietnam? sure they'd've taken lots of casualties but the overall number would probably be smaller than what they got while sitting around for 10 years
>>215664454>Did anyone really win or lose in 'Nam?Revisionism won, Marxism-Leninism lost.
>>215665192No they didn't. They called them the racial slurs they invented during the war.
>>215664240Literally the exact oppossite. It's hollywood leftists wanting depict the us military as evil.
>>215664454>a few small groups who were puppeteering everythingmeds
>>215665499they didnt give a fuck retard they used all of them, go read a book
>>215664454>I guess Americans can claim that 'they won'The objective of containing the North was a failure
>>215664911cope, seethe and dilate
>>215665424>why didn't americans just push into north vietnam?Afraid of making the conflict bigger involving Chyna and the Russians
>>215664240thisthe propagandist went all out on "vibes" and "feels" to distract from their absolute fiasco
>>215665499this retard thinks american soldiers didn't call vietnamese gooks lmao
>>215664901A gook by any other name, would be as canthal-tilted.
>>215664907run through the jungle is the actual song name
>>215665499https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gookeducate yourself
>>215665499Hey faggot, I'm 68 and was a army journalist in 1970. Yes, "gooks" along with "VC," "Charlie" and "slopes" were all used. Go be triggered about racism on redd@ct.
>>215666228>In a highly publicized incident, Senator John McCain used the word during the 2000 presidential campaign to refer to his North Vietnamese captors when he was a prisoner of war: "I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live… I was referring to my prison guards and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend." A few days later, however, he apologized to the Vietnamese community at large.[20]Hot damn.
>>215664216It was the last major conflict fought with purely analog technology, where the chief factor in military success in every discipline was personal skill. Digital fly-by-wire technology saw formal military adoption in the mid 70's and from then-on technology has increasingly been the determining factor>>215664402That's the 80's
>Look on the back of my Nike T-shirt>"Made in Vietnam"How exactly did we allegedly lose this war again?
>>215664216It's the collision of the ultimate authoritarianism - the military - with the ultimate counterculture - the 60s - rock and roll, free love, drugs. Also, as OP posted, the helos.
>>215664216>Why was Nam so fucking kino?It's like the Ukraine war. Small weaker underdog beats the bully and wins against all odds
>>215667433Um that's not what's happening, altho we're spending tens of billions of all our money to keep up the charade
>>215665547Invading a country that did absolutely nothing to you is evil, yes.
Are there still Amerimutts coping over Vietnam?
>>215664216because the American Military-Industiral Complex successfully propagandized it to make you think that
Full Metal Jacket is the only Vietnam kinoApocalypse Now almost was too but fucked up the ending
>>215664262Gulf War I had the last truly great OST
yeah it even inspired a cool fatboy slim m/vhttps://youtu.be/zKEWdRPRf3I
>>215664454>Be Robert McNamera>Run Ford Motor Corporation>Job is sell a ton of cars>Get recruited to help the US run the vietnam war>New job is sell a ton of helicopters, munitions, aircrafts, radar sysems etcHe seemed like he was pretty good at his jobs
>>215665007Replace government with corporations and you are closer to the truth.
Because the US kept the hearts n minds ciananigans to a minimum and went the big bomb 4u route instead
>>215668120>Full Metal JacketFirst half is 10/10 second is just a 6/10
>>215666890The fact that china went to war with them immediately after we did and performed so horrifically that its not even funny. We just wiggled our way back in because literally everyone wanted a piece of vietnam and those gooks stood strong
>>215666890we didn't lose the war, we made a tactical retreat from the region but won the cold war in the end
>>215666177you dont say
>>215668278gulf war 2 had some bangers
>>215664297M16A1 was kickass, problem was shit US Army ammo and dumb niggers not cleaning them
You had large amounts of average civilians put in situations where they were pushed to their absolute limits
>>215668470correct
>>215664216is the sun ever that big?
>>215668470Pleb
>>215664216They lost Nam.Kek, burgers be burgers
>>215664911*China
Saigon...... shit
>>215664216It's not that 'nam was kino, it's just that 80s movies were better
>>215664216>bad guys utterly defeated by humble farmers defending their homelandKino but IRL.
>>215664216When did you guys discovered the us army lost most of their wars?
>>215664454American government loves saying they lost the war so then they don't have to apologize for killing 4 million vietnamese Lol
Frag a CO. Frag two.
As a 80s/90s kid I thought war was cool. Played with little plastic army men all the time and ran around in the woods playing war with my friends. Most of the good war movies I had access to were vietnam themed. Did like a few WW2 ones too, though. Probably watched pic related a 100 times on VHS.
>>215664216The jungle is a kino setting, it levels the playing field more and makes a war with assymetrical forces so much more interesting and dynamic.I dont know if they couldve used helicopters like they did if there wasnt all that jungle cover that both allows them to drop people so close into the fight. But also makes it necessary because the enemy can appear or disappear so quickly
>>215664901Anything east of the Himilayas is a gook