Why didn't Lost remain culturally relevant like The Sopranos and Breaking Bad did?
>>215665211They are capeshit for boomers
it was a mystery box show so once the mysteries were revealed there was no reason to ever go back to it
>>215665235Most of the mysteries went unanswered though
>>215665258they were all answered the answers were just gay
>>215665211This is why I don't trust this show's actually good. People on the internet say it's worth watching, but I never hear anyone mention it, not since like 2005, IRL.
>>215665908It's totally worth watching. It's good, fun television.
>>215665908>>215665987it's ok for a bit but i hate shows that are structured like this one and any new show that comes out that uses t he same narrative structure has me almost immediately tuning out.which is when there's an ensemble of characters and they spend entire episodes focusing on one character and their backstory, except all of them are terrible/boring except for 2 or 3; i have no patience for that shit.
>>215665211because it filtered people
>>215666197The Sun and Kate episodes were real snoozefests so I think your point is valid even though I enjoy the show.
>>215665908>"never hear anyone mention it">that's considered a good reason not to watch a showgenuine NPC behaviour
>>215666197Not into that either. Dedicating a full episode to exploring a random character I had no reason to care about prior feels like filler and a crutch device to make audiences care more about them without finding a way to do it with the actual story.
>>215666253I'm autistic enough someone calling me an NPC or a normie is a genuine compliment. This might literally be the first time I've ever been called an NPC.
>>215665211Cuz it was more annoying than good and the characters were kind of moody assholes and not in a good way
>>215665211>Why didn't Lost remain culturally relevant like The Sopranos and Breaking Bad did?Because it's not on the level of either of those to begin with. Also because it jerked people around for six years and they had the expectation that it was all going somewhere and would be worth it in the end -- the show's retrospective worth would be judged on if they nailed the ending and resolved the grand mystery they'd goosed people up for -- and then it ended up being stupid shit like "a guy turned into a black smoke monster because he got thrown down a magic light cave".
>>215665211I think hardcore LOST fans don't really understand that people put up a lot with the show, irrelevant/boring flashbacks, mediocre characters, mysterious that kept being teased with the idea that it was all going to be worth it in the end. People are right when they say that most of the mysteries were answered but what they don't understand is that a lot of the answers were extremely lame and just didn't live up to the hype. The last season was also pretty disastrous to the point that the creators had to come out and say they weren't dead the whole time after playing a sequence of the initial crash with nobody in the shots.Sure, there were a lot of people who watched the show casually and didn't really pay attention but the series got so convoluted that it buckled under its own weight. Still a really fun show and there's never been anything like it is, probably for good reason.
For a time there was a strong phenomenon of shows that started out with a fantastic premise, and I really do mean 'fantastic'. But the lede is the writers didn't have a plan for finishing the show, it wasn't part of some grand clever arc. So all hype, no delivery in the end. It was just 'we can write it as crazy as we like because bringing it to a conclusion is a problem for tomorrow me'.This was audience crack for a while. Wasn't just Lost. Heroes. Prison Break. If you go back further X-Files, BSG and such. Going forward stuff like GoT.Some shows, arguably, defied this trend. Sopranos. Breaking Bad. They are still far more talked about as a result because what they ended up delivering felt complete.
>>215667393>the characters were kind of moody assholes and not in a good wayYeah, Jack became the most annoying character by the end.
>>215665211Because being the greatest soap opera ever told is not a very high bar
It's the archetype of all the midwit shows that were popular back in those days when nothing else was on. it's modern descendant would be slop like severance.
LOST was mystery box bullshit but it is pretty fucking sad to look back knowing it was the last time there'd ever be such a massive shared cultural experience. Durn.
>>215665211They need to do a follow up to reinvigorate interest in the series like Saul and Many Saints did for those other shows.
almost every reply to OP just regurgitates their own bullshit response and replies to nobody.no discussion and OP has probably already left the threadthis sub is dead.
>>215665211sopranos and breaking are immoral slop
>>215666197this anon described it perfectly. it was shit and the only reason it was popular was because it existed in the 00s when most shows were just police and hospital procedurals so lost seemed like it was doing something interesting but it just sucked.now*crack*prison break on the other hand*siiiiiiiiip*now THAT was some 00s kino. take it from someone who was there, kid.
>>215667341it was relatively original for its time, using flashbacks to get to know the characters in their real world lives pre-plane crash.Many of them were decently interesting, but as the show went on, they got stretched thin.Then they get more interesting again in the last few seasons, cuz they do some things differently.
>>215665211I've noticed that no matter how big a show is during its run, if the ending flops it gets forgotten entirely.>Lost>The West Wing>Weeds>Orange is the New Black>Game of ThronesHaving at least some semblance of a good finale is what ends up giving a show some staying power
>>215667560Breaking Bad creator had to rewrite a significant portion of the show mid production due to different factors (Jessie was going to die early, but audiences liked him, Tuco was killed off earlier because the actor quir, etc.)
>>215669750Add How I Met Your Mother; one counter exemple would be The Office, with the unwatchable final couple seasons, but still a comfy rewatch (if you are a women).
>>215670070>changing your original vision because of muh audience
>>215670070impressive he dodged all those curveballs an still put out a 10/10
>>215667520I only watched LOST for the first time a few years ago and constantly had that on my mind during a rewatch. If I had to wait for episodes week to week only to end up with "Jack gets his tattoo in Thailand" or "Charlie loses his piano after his band does an adult diaper commercial" in 7 day intervals I would lose my mind.
>>215670124>I would lose my mind.Many of us did.
>>215670124Sometimes you'd be hit with an episode long "recap" instead of an actual episode, so you'd have to wait two weeks. Beginning of second season was specially dreadful because you wanted to know what was going on with Sawyer and Michael and their captors, but also what's up with the secret bunker they entered.
>>215665211Compared to other series from it's era, Lost is quite culturally relevant. If not as relevant as The Sopranos or Breaking Bad, at least as relevant as House MD. People who discuss TV shows still mention it frequently.
Simple reason is it's not very goodFans like to claim it just went to shit towards the end but really it got bad as early as season 2, some of the worst narratives and episodes actually happen in seasons 2 and 3, like Charlie having his weird Christian hallucinations, the episode where we "finally" figure out where Jack got his tattoos and Locke acting like an all around retard.Season 4 is for sure an abomination and the worst bu seasons 5-6 are basically just middle procedural crap trying to pick up the pieces, very middle of the road. None of the highs of seasons 2-3 (and admittedly they are in there) but none of the abject lows neither.
>>215665211Because it got people tired of it by the end of it like walking dead.
>>215666197Hit and miss episodes that are crappy anime fillers.
>>215670416>at least as relevant as House MDI'd say Lost is far more relevant, in fact it's more interesting just how irrelevant House is these days given how big it was at the time.
>>215670744I see people mentioning House more than ER or Gray's Anatomy even though those were bigger series at the time though. Scrubs and House are the medical shows with most staying power in people's minds IMO
>>215665908the first 1-2 seasons are interesting but after watching the whole thing it dragged out for too long and wasn't really worth it
>>215670791>I see people mentioning House more than ER or Gray's Anatomy even though those were bigger series at the time thoughActually yeah true, crazy to think how big those were and how nobody cares anymore.I think they were more popular with an older viewerbase which has largely died off now.
>>215670791I watched ER for the first time this year and it's honestly my favorite TV show of all time. It's a real shame people don't talk about it more.
>>215671036You watched all of ER this year?
>>215665211> why aren't you all stuck in the past like me
>>215671068Well, I think I started around December and stopped in July. I started halfway through season 3 and stopped after season 9. They were showing reruns on regular-ass TV you see, probably to drum up hype for The Pitt. Was a fun ritual to turn on the TV at 8 PM every weeknight and catch the "latest" episode.If you get the hankering to watch the show, season 8 is a pretty natural stopping point. All the familiar faces are pretty much gone after that point.
>>215671167thanks I loved the Pitt, might check ER out
>>215667560Heroes still pisses me off after all these years. 2008 me was so excited and even bought the first box set, but I never bothered with the second season. The box set is still shrink-wrapped somewhere.
>>215671239Make sure to watch the 90 minute pilot episode first, in case your service of choice shuffles the episodes around.Fun fact, Michael Crichton wrote the pilot in the seventies as a screenplay and they changed it only slightly.
one of the best private trackers in the world started as a lost discussion forum, just shows how absolutely shit tier everything has become and more and more centralized. Was GoT the last shared experience, i mean ones not gaslit by disney, where you could over hear normies talking about a tv show
>>215665211It was part of a wave of make up the plot as you go along shit that all disintegrated into incoherent nonsense, a tradition carried on to this day with stuff like yellow jackets.>Fool me once
>>215667955Sopranos is far from immoral, but I agree on BrBa being so, the dialogue between Walt and Hank about drugs was a lame attempt at grey morality.
