>It’s all rubbish. ADHD, OCD, Asperger’s, blah, blah, blah. Oh God, it’s called living. It’s just being a human being, full of tangled webs and mysteries and stuff that’s in us. Full of warts and grime and craziness, it’s the human condition. All these labels. I mean, who cares? But now it’s fashion.https://people.com/anthony-hopkins-wife-thinks-he-may-have-autism-11841838
Holy fucking based
>>215668613He's right.
He's totally right
Autism is what stupid people call smart people
>>215668613hannibal is right
>>215668613Based autist
>>215668613oh boy reddit is NOT gonna like this one
>>215668613He's right. 99% of "autistic" people are either doing it for attention, or are just too lazy to make an effort socially. Unless you're drooling and nonverbal, you're not autistic.
>>215668613>I mean, who caresFor starters, probably the parents of severely autistic kids.
He’s dying, why shouldn’t he have this point of view? Also he’s right.
>>215668613BUT THIS MEANS IM NOT SPECIAL ANYMOREEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEE
>gropes our ex-waifu>calls us rubbishwhy does he hate us
He's not saying that autism isn't real, he just doesn't care about labels
>>215668634Yeah I’m sure that’s it.
they should come up with a name for the cluster of traits he's describing.
Old people are just like this. I used to listen to that preacher John Macarthur who claimed mental illness wasn't real and was just a lack of gratefulness to God. People were really uncompassionate towards head cases in the past.
>>215668670The only label he should be worried about is the label that’s going on his toe. He’s like a billion. Sit down and shut up old white man.
>>215668613>his wife thinks>diagnosis
>>215668634
>>215668645>you don't understand, you're incapable of understanding social cues and haven't left your house in 10 months because you're an attention whore!
>>215668634Autism is hyperfocusing on the most useless aspect of something interesting.People like to think an autistic person knows a lot about trains, that's one of the stereotypes, but that's effectively false.An Autistic person knows the serial number of a model train set from 1973 and what the scale of the track is but doesn't know a goddamned thing about how a steam or a diesel engine works.
>>215668685>Old people weren't as brainwashed by the media to need (((((therapy))))) for every little thingChecks out
>>215668685the diagnostic model of mental illness was created to convince American healthcare/insurance companies it was genuine illness.
>>215668708Some people need therapy but talk therapy for the average person is a scam.
>>215668685But I can understand him not wanting to be labeled with such things. I heard they suspected him of Asperger's, but he's far too aware of human emotion for me to believe that. The wife claimed his lack of close friendships and propensity towards being a loner was evidence of it. I'm not so sure.. but then again I'm no expert on Asperger's or the autism spectrum
>>215668704Get over yourself
Based and true. You could take any person on the street and give them a diagnosis for something.It’s all just bullshit to keep psychiatrists employed and mass produce brain numbing drugs to keep sheeple sheep. And line the pockets of big pharma
>>215668708>>215668716Oh I agree that doctor's over diagnose, over medicate, etc., and that people use mental illness as an excuse to not act in ways they should.. but I just can't deny mental illness or not feel sympathy for those suffering. Personally, I don't think I'd ever seek therapy or take a pharmaceutical.. and I can barely function.
>>215668734I feel like once every 5 years or so some grad students will voluntary commit themselves, act normal while they're in the nuthouse, then laugh about how the quacks assigned every single behavior they had a mental disorder. Scratching your ass with your non-dominant hand is probably a sign of schizophrenia to these people.
>>215668733you got btfo bitch
>>215668704>im autistic because i don’t understand social cues>haven’t left the house in 10 monthsSelf-fulfilling prophecy and negative feed back loop. You’re socially stunted through lack of trying which in turn makes you more socially retarded which in turn discourages you from trying. Get over yourself. You’re not special.
>>215668613based
>>215668759>Have job where crazy people are the crazy people are the customers>See everyone as crazy>make more moneySeems quite reasonable since most people like money.
>>215668613He's right, especially about this >But now it’s fashion.Problem is too many mothers wanted their boys diagnosed simply because they liked playing with trains or were a bit too restless in class, so they want their kids drugged up and easier to manage.
>>215668704Lots of people don’t like socializing. Lots of people are awkward. Most people don’t make it their whole personality.
>>215668613“I don’t have any opinions,” Hopkins said. “Actors are pretty stupid. My opinion is not worth anything. There’s no controversy for me, so don’t engage me in it because I’m not going to participate.”
I think hes right. Obviously some people have the actual condition but for the most part humans are just strange.
>>215668704Take any skill you have and stop doing it for 10 months and let me know if you’re at the same level. Wonder how much those skills would deteriorate further if you avoid them for yearsDipshit.
>>215668811Yep, single mothers keep ruining everything for everyone
>>215668613He's right in a way though. People are so overly concerned with labeling themselves with things so they can claim victimhood and shift any blame to a condition they have rather than their choices
>>215668613*autism* is just a less offensive way of saying mentally/socially retarded
>>215668827Yes, isolation makes one weird. You need social cues to know what's culturally acceptable and normal and what isn't.. a grimacing face when you burp, a smile when you open a door for someone. I like that portrayal of that mountain man dentist in the True Grit remake.. perfect example of someone who's spent too much time alone in the bush.
>>215668634deepest lore because Hopkins also called all actors including himself stupid people
>>215668634I recently had an autistic roommate and she was one of the dumbest people I've ever met.Though I'm not sure if it's more because of the autism or more because she's lobotomized by smoking dabs multiple times every day
>>215668907>Though I'm not sure if it's more because of the autism or more because she's lobotomized by smoking dabs multiple times every dayyou're so close she's a woman
Chris Chan and etsubatsu woowy kid disagree
>>215668639There's no way this is real. Odin would never do that
>>215668613Based but my neighbor retarded son that screams the entire day isnt living
>>215668613I’m diagnosed with autism and all I did was take a questionnaire from a psychologist and give non-normie answers. The computer measures your autismness based on the percentage of autistic answers you chose, and they base your diagnosis on that. Anyone could get a high enough score if they really wanted to or do the opposite and give normie answers.
>>215668639>Moner's POV
Same thing with asthma, literally make believe shit. Usually an excuse that potheads mumble about.
I work in special ed as a 1on1 helper (tard wrangler). Last year I got assigned to a middle school kid who was 100% NOT autistic. His mom was single and didn't have a job, she just got him a diagnosis for the NEETbux. Total Munchausen by proxy. You could make a case that he had Asperger's, but for some stupid reason that's not in the DSM anymore and now there's no distinction between different types of autists on paper. According to the government, they're ALL drooling retards who can't be held liable for any of their behavior.This kid was a huge prick to just about everyone, students and teachers alike, and got in 4 fights in the span of a year, all of which just so happened to occur when I was on my lunch break (he would never start shit when I was in the room). He got expelled from his last school for punching the (female) principal in the face. The school wasn't allowed to suspend him because he was considered "special ed". His teachers weren't even allowed to give him homework, per his mother's instruction, and she would come into the office and start yelling if we ever reprimanded him for anything.He was an 8th grader, and his grades were better than most of his peers. His mom got upset when we switched him from the remedial to the grade level math classes because that weakened her case for having a retarded son and leeching off government programs. Horrible woman, she ended up pulling him out of the district when people caught on to her grift.I think a lot of autism cases have to do with some kid's cunty single mom doctor shopping until she gets the diagnosis she wants. The sad part is, at his core he was a really good kid, but he doesn't have much of a chance. That label will follow him around for the rest of his life whether he one day realizes it's bullshit or not. The most I could do is be a surrogate father and let him know I wasn't willing to put up with any of his bullshit, and that I wasn't buying the line that he wasn't capable of anything.
hes right outside of the super autistics, I hear endless people talk about bipolar, or ADHD, or whatever social disorder that allows them to be a prick. Majority of the time if these people didn't have doctor visits outside of innoculation/dentists/ and for real sickness and didn't have therapy they would turn out like any other person and just deal with their problems like any person in the challenging modern world. The over medicating is disgusting whether its anti depressants or even worse ADHD, so many people get adderall scripts just so they can do more with their time. Now schizophrenia some people have bullshit diagnosis but I know at least one person who is massively schizophrenic and its that kind of person that needs medicated, without his pills he obsesses over the demons in his house until hes camping in his backyard, or the neighbors screaming at him through the walls, or buying inner ear blockers to nullify the radios the government implanted in his ears. The meds turn him into a zombie which is sad but its tough seeing how deranged he gets.
>>215668639>>215668613i refuse to believe such a good actor has autismhe might be OCD, they tend to be misdiagnosed as autistic because of their obsessive tendencies
>>215669169It feels creepy reading this because it describes me perfectly
>>215668613>>215668639hes just like me
>>215669169>famous people with 46 autism
>>215668613Exactly all this shit is just made up by some dude, who’s to say what’s normal anyway? Maybe it’s us autists that are the normal ones, and all you other people are the real retards
>>215669341That's probably because I was your aide last year, and I hope you're doing well at your new school
>"In my day we just beat children, and bullied people into suicide, and that was better!"Okay.He's going to die soon.
>>215668613Autists crave simplicity, so this is a pretty autistic take.
>>215669029That’s pretty close to the filename I have this saved as.
>>215668613TRUTH NUKE
>>215669341you went around picking fights and fighting people? dunno how that anon saw the "really good kid" in him, that shit sounds like psycho behavior unless he was beating up cartoon bullies who were picking on him first
>>215668613OCD is definitely real and it's a waking nightmare. He should kill himself desu
>>215668613>But if autism isn't real how can I shrug off my kid smearing his shit all over the walls? What do you mean I actually have to parent
I agree it's massively over-diagnosed, there are far too many people who claim to have these disorders who are clearly basically "normal". They're either doing it for clout or to deny responsibility. But, these disorders definitely do exist.I was non-verbal for a long time and literally went to a special school. Beyond myself I saw plenty of messed up kids with those problems.
>>215669681why didn't you speak? nothing interesting to say? haha
>>215669029
Well, if he does have it, it's not because of the vax...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBLEKOww80I
Femoids literally cannot comprehend the male eccentric
>>215668877im a trend setter
>>215668613Based and correct. Fuck these retards and their fucking disability badges.
Sleeping issues aren't real. Nigga, just fucking close your eyes and fall asleep, it's not that hard.
>>215669251This. Pretty sure Aykroyd isn't autistic either.James May might be autistic, but Dan's got too much of his own shit together, even with his love of the paranormal.
>>215668704>haven't left your house in 10 monthsi feel attacked.i just want to be able to buy food again.
There's definitely people who can barely communicate, but honestly including freaks that like sonic the hedgehog too much discredits a lot
i watched 'mask of zoro' and he was in it.was he supposed to be Spanish in that movie? because his face is so quintesentially british. i deleted the torrent after the timeline shifted to 20 years later.
What's a good Hopkins movie to watch? Is Titus good? Maybe I'll watch Mask of Zorro to see if anon is correct.
>>215669777Spartacus (1960)
>>215669777watch 'the bounty' (1984).it's almost like a romance movie between Anthony Hopkins and Mel Gibson.
>>215669690I always got referred to as a ninja (because I was silent, didn't even grunt like some other autists), I hated that one.
>>215668634No. Autism has become an overused label, just like everything on a "spectrum".Autism used to be some fuck rocking back and forth in a corner that would lose their shit if you didn't move a chair exactly right when putting it back under a table, but then they could draw a map of London down to the last detail after seeing a blurry overhead shot of it for a millisecond or some other super power. The most functional autism was shit like Rain Man level stuff. Now? You got autism if balloons rubbing together annoys you.
>>215669777Magic
>>215669748he was a really strange choice for Richard Nixon.
>>215669788>>215669785Seenem both. I can't recall hopkins being in Spartacus though.. the bounty was great, I used to watch it with my dad as a kid for the tribal boobs
>>215669777Yes, Titus is good. Great, even.
>>215668613>It’s just being a human being, full of tangled webs and mysteries and stuff that’s in us. Full of warts and grime and craziness, it’s the human condition.I love the old Welshman but this is Rupi Kaur tier pseudo-profundity. He sounds like some idiot hole.
>>215669795Ok I'll watch this thanks>>215669803This looks good too
>>215668645>covered in tattoos>dressed like a streetwalker>"I'm so nervous, I have autism teehee!"
>>215669808I guess I'll be on a Hopkins kick for the next couple days because I've been wanting to see this.
It's a very social science concept, its all backed by correlations without much understanding of why they exist or how to accurately identify a mental state of 'autism'. There probably is something to it, in that it's been measured with MRIs etc that during synaptic pruning in childhood autistic people lose less neurons than "normie" people do. So there's probably a physical brain state that autistic people have which is real. It's certainly been heavily over diagnosed though and I find it's one of those conditions where people love to pin their intuitions onto. We've all experienced annoying people socially or people who act different so some people will just call that "autistic", or fastidious people will be called "autistic", or people with niche interests are called "autistic", or just people who make us feel insecure are called "autistic" to feel better, or people want to give up on trying so they call themselves "autistic". Culturally and socially the label has been a disaster
>>215669792Not wanting to listen to women talk about nothing means you’re autistic, chud.
>>215668634Tard cope kek
>>215669874>There probably is something to itProbably? I understand that it's in vogue to larp as le tism with the younger crowd, but there's also severely autistic people who are completely (or almost completely) non-verbal. It's obviously a thing.He's just yapping.
>>215668634Really? Ive been using it as a substitute for retarded mostly.
>>215669874People that use labels as a core part of their identity are coping and/or want to leverage them as a form of power over others.
>>215669820>>215669837You NEED to see Father, one of the few truly 10/10 movies ever made.
>>215669748Good point, Spanish people are quintessentially arab.
>>215668613When I was 20 I was diagnosed with severe adhd, & was expected to go on Ritalin & eventually discharged from the Army for having it. In the time since I’ve come to share Hopkins view on it. Yes some of us alternate between being spazzes, being obsessive, and being bored by tedious people & shit. So is everyone. If you’re lucky you find a place in this world and make it. For the rest of us there’s just getting by week after week until the cancer diagnosis comes in and then it’s the barrel of a gun. And that’s as good as it gets for everyone. At least you can decide to not put your kids through a lifetime in this garbage species.
>>215669916Yeah obviously there's people who are 'severely autistic', but there's no actual physical link between that and the most common usage of autism nowadays. Like what makes that person actually so fucked up are things like chromosome duplications or brain injuries and stuff, the 'autism' part doesn't really matter at all if we're trying to be accurate in a scientific way. We just call those people severely autistic people its an easy shorthand, and because historically that was an easy catch-all term for those types of people. Now it's extended to people without those kinds of mutations and it makes way less sense
How has no one mentioned this yetHe goes so fucking Gosling in this that the whole movie is agonyThis movie should actually be central 4chan mythology
>>215669681It's real, but it's not a "disorder". It's a type of person who doesn't fit very well into the world as it stands, and we blame the person, because it's easier than blaming the rest of the world.An autistic person wouldn't have been "disabled" 200 years ago. They would have been a valued worker or a monk, probably.How are you going to have a sensory overload over flashing lights or loud music, when literally none of that exists?How are you going to struggle socially when you already know everyone in your village? You're not.
>>215669983>At least you can decide to not put your kids through a lifetime in this garbage species.Speak for yourself you sad sack, it's probably best you don't have kids if that's your pessimistic view of your limited time on this planet
>>215669727Dan is totally autistic. All of those stories of him writing ridiculously long and unusable scripts for movies, because he has to elaborate on every tiny detail.The fact that he doesn't get why other people think it's weird when he blathers about ghosts and the paranormal being real (which is based, by the way).
>>215670001>or a monkI always figured they usefully pathologized people before the printing press because every physical copy of a book in existence was literally the result of a guy at a desk writing with a quill for six months straight
>>215668634Autism is what socially apt people call socially inept people that act aquard.
>>215670085nah bro aquard isnt a word youre tryna trick me
>>215668613I get where he's coming from because people apply these labels to themselves without ever seeing a doctor but I do had pretty bad OCD and it fucking sucks. It's there at every point of the day. Not sure I've been able to enjoy anything since before my teenage years.
>>215670085What the fuck is an aquard. I looked that shit up, nothing.
>>215670098did you ever hit your head anon?
>>215670085Oh wow, “Awkward”, holy fuck anon, what grade are you in?
>>215670118I'd say no. It's largely contamination OCD and there's nothing that really stands out as a contributor to it.
>>215670139sorry that happenedi personally don't have any OCD at all which is really good. In fact I don't have any odd afflictions at all
>>215669983Don’t redpill tv bro, this is a whole board of ppl that have chosen escapism instead lol.
>>215668613He's right. It's just an excuse.
>>215670159I hope you're able to build a good life given that luck.
>>215668613He got Oscar nom for neuro degeneration of alzheimers, but he doesn't believe in neurological damage that's turned into a fashion by ppl pushing for antisocial discord as the norm.
>>215670041The Carthusians specifically recommended scribe duty in the 1400s to members who were "meticulous to the verge of neurosis"
>>215669941This was very good. I just bailed on Titus. Too surreal for me right now
>>215668766Get over yourself
>>215670221Based autists preserving information for future generations.
>>215668685Hopkins played against type on Elephant Man
>>215668613Basedbasedbasedbased
>>215668671Never missed a Vax in ha life
>>215669561get bullied, fag
>>215670034But is that really autism? Guy hooked up with plenty of attractive women, is a career comedian who resonated with normies, had plenty of normie friends, and had a full understanding of sarcasm.You described a smart guy with interests who preferred writing in detail. That's not really autism.
>>215670319Autism is not when you can't have sex.
>>215670275True. One of his best. Lynch gets too weird for me, but the Elephant Man and The Straight Story are such beautiful films.
>>215670334All I'm saying is he wasn't a blubbering retard. If he fits whatever the fuck these dumbasses call autism, then it might as well not exist at all.
>>215670342It's an identifiable family of traits. If you think autism = bumbling retard, that's your ignorance. It's not everyone else who is wrong.
>>215670182You're not enlightened. You're depressed.
>>215670336Also, yes and the element of compassion is what makes the story so compelling. Otherwise it'd just be a Victorian version of Saw.
>>215670356I just think it's too broad a spectrum. If it's not negatively interfering with your life, social or otherwise, then it isn't autism.
>It’s all rubbish. ADHD, OCD, Asperger’s, blah, blah, blah. Oh God, it’s called living. It’s just being a human being, full of tangled webs and mysteries and stuff that’s in us. Full of warts and grime and craziness, it’s the human conditionWhy do British people talk like this
>>215670385So if you can overcome potentially debilitating traits and live a good life, the traits don't exist? That's nonsense.Plus, you don't know that Dan Akroyd doesn't have a hard time with things, off camera. Maybe he freaks out if a car alarm goes off. I don't know.
>>215670433>So if you can overcome potentially debilitating traits and live a good life, the traits don't exist?No, if the traits aren't that debilitating in the first place, then they aren't part of an overbroad spectrum that effectively just umbrellas the idea of "not normie"It's retarded.
>>215670422Because they got fucked up the arse in boarding school, and developed a Stockholm relationship with misery.That's the entire British upper class. Not even exaggerating. They're all weirdos who take pride in the fact that they "took their lashings", and don't like being told they were abused.
>>215670001Grouping people together based on perceived shared traits is just how the human brain tries to make sense of a chaotic reality. It’s easier to diagnose people who don’t fit in with autism than it is to examine each of their lives individually.
I got tested to see if I were autistic. Turns out I'm not. I'm more awkward and obsessive than Aykroyd has ever been. If I'm not on the spectrum then neither is he, simple as.Looking it up he wasn't even diagnosed. He probably read an online article somewhere and decided he was.
>>215670422what do you mean? he's just saying it's a load of namby-pamby wishy-washy nonsense.
>>215670034>>215670319Akroyd should be running NASA
>>215670450But it's not just "not normie". It's a specific family of traits. No one is saying a person who doesn't engage with social media for example is necessarily autistic, as some kind of rule. It might be a factor, but it wont get you diagnosed.
>>215670458At a certain point, it becomes helpful. >you are this kind of person, you may experience these kinds of difficulties, and you may find these specific resources or strategies helpfulYeah, of course all we're doing at a certain level is drawing a rough circle around particular group of people and saying "you're that thing", but you'll have to explain to me how that's bad, and how it's worse than what we used to do, which was just beat kids or socially ostracize people for acting weird.
>>215670499Now tell me why not buying into online community bullshit is a factor in the first place.You can't tell me the spectrum isn't flawed.
he's just welsh
>>215670539You know autism as a thing predates the internet, yes?It's not about liking Sonic. That's a meme.
>be me>be programmer>don't talk to anybody at work because I dislike all of them>all of them too busy trying to look "smart" instead of actually programming>mind my own business and code all day>"hey anon you must have autism or something"????
>>215670538>which was just beat kids or socially ostracize people for acting weirdThey still do this but with the added infantilization and humiliation ritual.
>>215670581no one asked?
>>215670583then we need to tackle that next. Progress is made in increments.
>>215670587I'm clearly implying that everyone is quick to jump to some kind of autism label whenever you don't behave "socially". Maybe you have autism if you didn't pick up on the obvious cue?
>>215670610>spills spaghetti unprompted>UHM YOU DIDNT PICK UP ON LE HECKIN SOCIAL CUES
>>215670677would you like some parmesan with your spaghetti sir?
>>215668613well said. that's why he's my GOAT. also he would have made The Shining 10 times better
>>215670587I asked, faggot.
>>215668613Absolutely fucking spot on. 99% of people identified with adhd or shit like depression are just lazy or stupid or simply not raised properly by their parents.But if they manage to get a label like that it's like an excuse to keep being retarded.And trooning out is the ultimate free pass. 99.9% of those aren't "born in the wrong body"
>>215670803>lazy or stupid or simply not raised properly by their parents.Usually all of the above."Nooooo, I was diagnosed with adhd and depression!!! This is why I'm a 37 year old toddler!!!"
>>215668613Actual low functioning autism exists but aspergers is just a meme
>>215668613Based AF
Based.
>>215670803"lazy" and "stupid" are often labels that ignorant people throw at people who would like to contribute, but experience roadblocks.None of this language is particularly helpful, unless you just want to hate people, which you do.
Case in point: I know older people who clearly have something wrong with them, who would never have jobs, if it wasn't for the fact that a charitable person gave them that job.If those people were out of work, it wouldn't be their fault, and you would call them lazy for it.
>>215670851If you are too lazy or stupid to figure out how to get over a roadblock, the shoe fits.
>>215670825Yep, easy diagnosis to make bc it sounds good.You should be on Facebook with all the suburban housewives who know more than all the doctors medical researchers, and scientists of the world bc they have Jesus in their hearts.
>>215670745Well ask louder
>>215670539I read the exchange, looked up autism traits. Apart from the sensory differences, all of these can be explained by improper socializing from parents. The sensory issues and annoying childlike behavior that survive into adolescence and adulthood (screenching about change for instance) seem to be what autism is really about. Being antisocial and whatnot can by symptoms because if you and I react normally to a bright sunny day, and Timmy over there reacts poorly by being annoying, then we'll ostracize him. With the most cursory of cursory google searches I can see why autism can be a thing, yeah.
>>215670886Go and learn Chinese, right now. Over night. If you can't do it, you're lazy and stupid. No I wont help you, or tell you where to start. You're supposed to know this already, retard.
>>215670899Why on earth would I bother learning Chinese in this day and age?
>>215670891this isn't autism it's just a bunch of broad random traits. if autism was an actual thing it'd be a simple specific tell.
Losers on the internet are desperate to hate on disabled people, because it's literally all they have that separates them from the lowest rung of the social ladder.
>>215670891Yep. Problem solved in two sentences. Easy as that. 50 years of neuroscience & psychological research and none of those ppl were as smart as you bc you “looked up the symptoms” and imagined yourself a diagnosis.You should solve cancer next.
>>215670899Additionally, there are infinite ways to learn Chinese on the internet at this very moment, so it would be quite easy to do so. This is also a bad example because I have a highly autistic uncle who can read and write Chinese, but he cant' get a good job because he doesn't understand basic human social queues and has paranoid delusions.
>>215668613Based beyond all recognition. Can't top the Hop, in the shithole known as the UK he's the diamond in the rough
>>215668664Based.
>>215670906You didn't read my post.>>215670915I didn't solve any problem. You didn't read my post either. You're both so desperate to make a point, and anonymously at that. I hope you understand there's no glory in our exchange.
>>215668613mhm. i concur. but it's a bit more specific then that. it is just basic human condition but the condition is how well you were taught to socialize at a young age. if your parents suck as people and had no friends then you weren't around healthy sociable adults and clearly not around other kids your age
>>215670905>why on Earth would I...Yeah, that's how autistic people feel about everything.Little things like how you will get socially rejected if you don't speak with the right inflection, or wear the right shoes, never get properly explained, and are almost completely incomprehensible.
>arrogant dunning-kruger boomer talking out of his assAutism is a neurological disorder, it's as real as it gets.Once brain scans improve there won't even be a need for a psychologist for diagnosis, just scan that tard brain.
>>215670928>it's really easyGo learn then. You have until tomorrow.
I've been on this board long enough to know that not only is it very real, but it's a huge fucking problem for society.
>>215670946I agree, which is what makes them so cool. Learning how to fit in is fucking lame. Some autistic people focus on making money and become extremely wealthy. Others focus on Sonic the Hedgehog and become lolcows. Pick your focus and use your autism for fun and profit.
>>215670938if your parents had no friends, they may have had autism, to be fair.
>>215670961He didn't say Chinese is easy to learn in a day.
>>215670946>t. doesn't study inflection and learning the right shoes to blend inAny autist can fake it if they try.
>>215670974that's all well and good, but sometimes you need things (like a job), and are left completely out of the loop because everything about neurotypical social dynamics completely passes over your head.
>>2156709644chan is a containment zone. the more we're on here, the less we're out in meatspace.
>>215668613
BASED its like how all zoomie zoomers now have dyslexia because speech therapists quadrupled in numbers and not the other way around, they are misdiagnosing everyone with autism aspergers and dyslexia. so newsflash if you aren't fingerpainting the wall with your shit or if you arent a mute you are most probably a spoiled brat whose parents were suffering by munchausen by proxy
>>215670984I'm giving you a day to learn, retard. What makes you think you're entitled to my pity, lazy asshole. I hope they put you in a camp.
>>215670946Sad and true. Even worse when your own parents have that attitude towards you.> goddamn it anon, don't you know how to do [X] / behave in [X] context / etc?> no I don't> fml> but Dad, teach me!> oh ffs> Dad literally teach me, because yes I don't know; I'm aware that I don't know and I could use guidance> *sighs and walks away*
>>215670990Not if they haven't even had it explained to them that there's a problem, and what that problem is.
>>215671013Ahahahaha
autism is real, but there are a lot of fake autististic people that are actually just asshole psychos who use self-depreciation to be an asshole.
>>215670995That is why the computer industry exists. There are tons of socially inept retards who draw big checks fucking with computers all day. You seem really intent on making excuses.
I'm homeless and can't function in society due to whatever I've got going on. Also I have some broken teeth and abscesses and will probably die from it in the next decade.Lol life is agony but I still have a laugh now and then
>>215670946>>why on Earth would I...>Yeah, that's how autistic people feel about everything.No, that's how lazy, spoiled, maladjusted people feel about everything. Stop being a permanent 5 year old.
>>215671043Ganbatte, anon-kun!
>>215671027Look at him avoiding responsibilities.
>>215671043Being homeless seems like one of the hardest jobs you can have, if you think about it. Sorry about your teeth and sense of despair, fren.
>>215671025It's also hard because you just lack any instincts for it.I'm aware people expect some eye contact, so I look the other person in the eyes, but all of it feels completely wrong, feels rude, and you're just constantly asking yourself "am I doing this right? was this too long? am I staring now? maybe I should try looking away a bit now?"
>>215670990The problem is, normal / neurotypical people don't need to "learn" it consciously. They have an innate feel for most of the social stuff that comes naturally to them, and they even struggle with expressing it in some super specific terms because they never ever even had to "think about it" and formalize it. Their brain / eyes / etc are just trained at instinctively feeling the right option - options in a dialogue, options for shoes, etc - without the need to "think about it and arrive at a conclusion".Autists are not devoid of this ability per se, but this ability is misapplied in them.I can easily see a difference between images that have been filtered a certain way, where normies literally say "these are the same picture".I have extremely good grammar (in my own native language, I'm ESL, so I'm sure my English here is retarded in some way) and I never ever had to "learn" it formally; I read a metric fuckton of books and other material as a kid (not online stuff, but actual books and magazines etc that had editors) and I ended up having an "innate" feel for good grammar. And I *can* formalize it, I *can* talk to you in depth about the grammar of my language, but I don't "need" it as such to use it properly. Meanwhile, normies, on the other hand, *do* need to regularly stop and think "hmmmm, which letter should be written here, let me remember that mnemonic rule from third grade...".In other words, autists generally *do* have the same ability to instinctively feel the right or wrong option in some situation, but it's very misapplied, and their ability ends up being quite useless in most real-world situations.
>>215668613>I haven't seen it therefore it doesn't existtruly an intellectual colossus
I see that the SSRI breathers have woken up from their 13 hour slumber.
>>215671042How's it going in the year 2003? IT (and "STEM"-like fields) have been completely overtaken by neurotypical normies and - even worse - by hypersocial people with frat boy personalities at the very least a decade ago.
>>215671074Keep practicing, anon. No one is born with the instinct to fly an aircraft or weld metal, but tons of morons do it all day every day and get paid for it.
Excluding real autism (walking on tiptoes nonverbal shit) he's right. Most people use all that crap as an excuse to be lazy.
>>215670964True, But giving yourself that label only makes things worse unless you have a neurodivergence that can be treated with meds.
>>215671084>Meanwhile, normies, on the other hand, *do* need to regularly stop and think "hmmmm, which letter should be written here, let me remember that mnemonic rule from third grade...".I'm assuming you have stats for that.
>>215671110I see it at the very least multiple times a week with my very own eyes when interacting with them.
>>215671098again with the excuses. Sure techbros are all around, but the ones inventing actually useful tech are all still autists who like machines more than people.
>>215671042Okay, well firstly no one taught me programming at a young age (in spite of me showing an interest), secondly I don't have a computer degree because I found education too confusing and stressful and opted to work for an acquaintance for a few years instead, and thirdly I don't understand how to look for jobs or get through an interview, and when I ask people they just direct me to websites that do absolutely nothing to clear up the confusion.
>>215671044>just don't have a disability>just innately know all of the things we didn't tell you
>>215671074You have to assert dominance and put the normalfag in their place with eye contact to remind them who’s boss. They’re like apes and perceive looking away as submission.
funniest shit to me is when i read about some woman online who claims to be diagnosed with 'tism and they are ALWAYS married and have kids. ALWAYS.
>>215671117Look man anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything when you're talking about humans like this. This is 4chan, so you're not being held to any real standard, but I'm giving you a dose of reality: You cannot say what you said in that post without statistics, because the only people you will convince are morons.
>>215671057Thank you, you're kind, but it's definitely not a job
>>215671141Practically zero females have autism, BPD is female autism.
>>215668613Autism niggas on suicide watch.
>>215671084I have the same thing with language. I just kind of innately "get it", but all of the rules that they tried to teach me in school seemed completely useless and nonsensical.I still don't really know what the difference between nouns and adjectives are. I don't care. it's stupid, and doesn't help me to convey a point. Whenever I learn, I just forget it a day later.
>>215671118Right. Do you imagine that to be an entry level job? Be it for someone who, let's say, recently graduated, or for someone who decides to switch careers into tech.To be Carmack (or similar), you need to have been born at the right timeframe (perhaps give or take some 5 years, depending on the country).It's the same old adage as the thought about "once in a century geniuses". Absolutely not a single one among the well-known thinkers of old wasn't all that special. I mean, yes, they were relatively special compared to the general population, but none of them were a once-in-a-century prodigy. They simply were the one who had the opportunity to break into their field. Meanwhile, someone equivalent to them was slaving from age 4 in a different field (a rice field) and lived and died a farmer despite having the same kind of brain. It's like that Indian mathematician who could have been one of the absolute all-time greats but died in his early 30s because he lived in some village in India. And that's a guy who *did* get his five minutes of fame, even had much more privileged white people trying to pull him out of his circumstances. Imagine how many don't get that kind of chance at all in the first place.
>>215671122>find actual human>practice interviews>repeat until it seems less awkwardIf one good thing came out of pickup culture it was that any sperg could, through rote repetition, get the point where talking to girls could eventually get even the saddest sperg a little bit of D grade pussy. The same is true for any other social skill. You and your kind seem committed to remaining in your current state.
>>215670834A nazi meme?
>>215668613i used to work on fairground rides, one was a trampoline part where one kid must stay on one trampoline, some kid was jumping from one to the other and knocking younger kids over etc.. he ignored me when I told him to stop, I told him mom and she turned around and said he's autistic and turned back around. Once her back was turned I grabbed the little cunt and threw him to the floor and he started crying and kicked him off, she just grabbed him and walked away.I hate women and their retarded little badly behaved kids. Autism is not a fucking reason your kids an arsehole you honking whore.
>>215671151Anon, I'm going to have to flip it at you in return, have *you* ever talked to people?Because I'm not describing an esoteric astute observation. I'm describing normal everyday experiences. Look around you. Literally just whenever you next happen to be next to an apparently well-adjusted person who needs to write/type some formal document (not a Whatsapp chat), observe them.
>>215671169Nah, females just often go unnoticed because they tend to be much better at acting normal than males.The typical female autist is that shy quiet girl who still dresses like a little girl and is completely obsessed with ponies.
>>215671130You don't have a disability. Stop telling yourself that. It's mind poison. Snap out of it.t. someone who did after a decade of diagnosis. turns out I was just lazy and self-pampering
>>215671180>practice interviewsThat means nothing to me. I don't know which part I'm supposed to be practicing.I want the job, they probably aren't going to give me the job. I don't figure I can say anything to change that outcome.
>>215668613>be a woman>drink, smoke, horrible lifestyle, eat goverment slop meds>AW MY LITTLE RAY OF SUNSHINE AUTISM AWARENESS XOXOXOXO
>>215671176We aren't talking about super geniuses. We are talking about garden variety autists who get along just fine once they find a niche. It takes effort and consistency, which is what no one wants to do.
>>215671208So why is it when I enter a noisy room where everyone else seems to be fine, I literally can't hear the conversation I'm supposed to be having, over the sounds of the room?
>>215671180That's literally part of the normal autism treatment, Applied Behavior Analysis.The point of a autism diagnosis is not to make the kid feel special but to know what's wrong with it and provide the most fitting treatment for it.I don't understand why people are mad at trying to understand what's wrong with people and figure out the most effective treatment for them.
>>215671211Of course no one is going to hire you with that fucked up attitude. You need to change your thinking, and focus on your outcomes. Why am I even wasting my time with this? Oh right, because I am autistically trying to help the lazy and stupid.
>>215671223You also need to know at least one person who is willing to put up with you, and allow you to work for them, which a lot of people simply aren't going to have access to.
>>215671203I'm taking real autism, not just spaghetti dropping. The "gets violent when you take a different route home" autism is almost exclusively male. But you're correct in that socially awkward women don't struggle with dating to the same level men do.
if autism was real brain scans would show it like it does CTE
>>215671251True. Also nowadays in most tech jobs you need to pass the filter of the HR Women From Hell (which is much more of a social-skill filter than a tech-skill filter).
>>215671249So, do what? Fake smile and behave like Jim Carrey? I'm telling you, none of this means anything to me.I am willing to work, and they can either give me the job or not give it to me. I don't know what more they expect.Do they want me to bring them presents, and show them pictures of my dog? How familiar is too familiar? When does acting cute cross over into acting rude? I have no idea. I've been getting this wrong my entire life.
>>215668613i honestly don't give a shit if it's real or just a label, the utilitarian value is what matters. it's a toolkit for handling social burnout, not going down hyper fixation rabbit holes on useless shit, and actually building habits so i don't procrastinate. it’s like what religion does, gives meaning to the suffering. sure, it's overused by ideologized academic elites who have their own agenda, whatever. but gaslighting people into believing this framework doesn't exist, when it could actually help them unfuck their lives and take better care of themselves is just as bad.
>>215671273It’s real if the psychology offices and pharmaceutical companies say it’s real.
>>215671232That's pretty normal. People in a noisy room miss half of what other people are saying and nod their heads and say yeah. Stop acting like a toddler and grow the fuck up.
>>215671223The modern world is just too socialized.In the past, an autist could find a nice quiet job where he won't have to deal with anyone, like a lighthouse keeper or something.Now, there's barely a job left without a fuck ton of HR nonsense and office politics bullshit. And autists just can't deal with that shit for long.
>>215671141I feel like male autism is more undiagnosed than female one. Females seem to fake it a lot more just by how well they are able to communicate and get social cues, and they get diagnosed with just for not going out for few months or being shunned by other women due looks(which happens often) which leaves them socially alienated and unsure what they did wrong.
I have "autism" (HFA sperg), it is bullshit, along with ADHD. I was diagnosed fairly early, before it was hip.It's really not so complicated as people make it. It's not the vaccines that causing autism in the womb, it's social deprivation in life. There's a direct correlation between the rates of faketism and tech reliance. Millennials started enjoying videogames more than real relationships and socialization which saw a minority off oddball autists appear. Ipads as a means of parenting caused those rates to skyrocket. It shouldn't take a genius to figure out that lack of socialisation hinders social skill development. I think there is a level of permanent damage but 90% of currently diagnosed autists could become neurotypical or passing if they are forced into social settings. You can cure most autism by getting a job.I still have high levels of anxiety that is exacerbated if I go recluse for too long.
>>215668613True
>>215671297>a nice quiet job where he won't have to deal with anyone, like a lighthouse keeper or something.But when he accidentally crosses paths with bad guys who just keep misinterpreting his misapplied social clues, he is forced to go back to the skills that made him a legendary assassin back in the day.Starring Jason StathamTHE AUTIST
>>215671243Stupid assholes were born in the image of their god already knowing everything they need to know bc they’re individualists. And here comes what, an “expert” telling them what to do? What do you think yet better than them? Bible don’t say nothin bout no “expert”.American culture is by and for stupid assholes. Unfamiliar or outside knowledge is a threat to the ape that is grossly ignorant and proud of it.
>>215671273They dohttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-024-03024-5
>>215671288They all go in there for fun, and seem to get on fine. I'm the only one feeling like I literally have to escape, because it's too much and it's suffocating me.
If autism wasn't real, kids wouldn't be bullying autists.Fucking 8 year old kids have a better feeling for who is the autist in their class / small town / etc than most adult doctors do.
>>215668613Based
>>215671353Were you born that way or did you have a negative experience that made your brain associate rooms full of people with danger?
>>215671329I think I enjoy video games because they offer me things real life doesn't, which is to say plainly stated rules and objectives, and a clear path to success. They also appeal to the part of me that enjoys systems. Same reason I enjoyed train sets and lego as a child. There's a satisfying sense of order and logic to a well constructed video game.
>>215668613hopkins gottem seething
>>215671243They don't like having their punching bags taken away. They want to bully weirdos and not have to feel bad about it.
>>215671249No, you’re not. You’re not providing anything useful to anyone, you’re making yourself feel good by grandstanding, elevating yourself to the position of judge, issuing your unqualified judgements and sentences down on others, and now telling yourself you’re doing it as a selfless act for others benefit. So you’re not just an egotistical narcissist but a messiah besides. Good job, savior of mankind.
>>215671400That is why they are so seductive, and socially destructive. it is a simulation of reality, while providing no real rewards. You won't get laid, a good job, or build anything real because of a videogame. Spend your time getting better at reality instead, and your life may actually improve.
>>215670899See? This right here. You are not autistic, you are a shithead, because mommy spent every waking second praising your useless ass, and at the first sign of not being praised or pitied you sperg out. Lazy, boring shithead.
>>215671381I do remember freaking out a few times as a child, because I was in a room and suddenly loud music started playing. I remember a friend showing me his drum kit once, and on the surface I was like "you're playing great", but I really just wanted him to stop. When it's too much, it's a sensation like the noise is inside my head, and I can't breathe.
>>215671417You are welcome.
>>215671400Based, I have the same feeling towards games.It's also why I didn't enjoy GTA San Andreas, for example. As opposed to 3 and Vice City. San Andreas for me was the point where the sandbox aspect was getting considerably out of hand and the game was becoming this nebulous loose set of experiences, as opposed to a straightforward experience.Although I was also the kind of guy to very often hyperfixate on the most random-ass shit in games. Spending forever in some room because I liked the "look and feel" of this room and it felt nice and cool to me to exist (virtually) in this room, like I was enjoying the experience of being in this cool spot. Instead of advancing through the game.I was also always very fond of the concept of these simplified virtual worlds, if that makes sense. In many ways, they were of course reminiscent of real world to some degree, but I liked how barebones and simple they were as opposed to the complex real world. This applied even to, let's say, maps in driving games, which featured some streets of some random cities. I was fucking fascinated by this very stripped down, very basic, very crystallized take on what "a city environment" is, complete with pedestrians idly walking along predetermined paths etc.I unironically think that I'd *love* to spend extended periods of time in some hypothetical very immersive VR in environments like this. Not in social hubs where you can interact with others and fuck Lara Croft while being Geralt or some shit. Just walk around these ghost-like cities with PS2 level of detail, take in the atmosphere of them, etc.
>>215671425They didn't make me autistic though. I like them because I was already autistic. Non-autistic people get different things out of video games. They treat them more like movies, or some kind of aspiration simulator. They want to play the game that lets them drive the car they want in real life. I don't get that at all.
>>215671432Learn Chinese or your mother coddled you too much.
I think if I had been given adhd medication at a young age I wouldnt have experimented with illegal drugs. Neurodiverse just means that people's brains are different. What you all have a problem with is the pathology of it, to the point of denial.
>>215671425>Spend your time getting better at reality instead, and your life may actually improve.I am married, own my house, make more than you, and I build everything I need around the house myself.Videogames are still better.Shut the fuck up you Gavin McInnes watching nigger lmao
>>215671448Anons, how much do you think it would cost to build a reasonably good 1:1 scale replica of q3dm0? (without the teleporter, obviously)
>>215670001this, people don't even know what it is to be autistic>can't go to lightshows>can't go to (basically any these days) clubs or pubs>gets people fatigue in like an hourand then the social defects are a result of this, in a society where people mingled without fucking deafening music, autistic people wouldn't seem autistic.Being diagnosed if you are is a blessing because you learn to mask better and know what you need to work on.For 28 years no one cared enough to realise I was autistic and I made social blunder after social blunder because I didn't realise I was making social faux pas.
>>215671455Yes, they are reinforcing your autism. You need to de-autist yourself in order to live a more fulfilling life. Doing things that make you uncomfortable is the correct path forward.
I just want a job where I don't have to socialize.I fell for the programming meme only for Indians to take away every job from autists unable to do good in interviews.
there's no profit to be made if it's just the human condition
>>215671435Maybe you just don’t like loud noises. If you had friends and can understand people and social interacts then I wouldn’t worry too much. Autism is more than just noise sensitivity.
>>215670041I would have loved this job. As long as the quill was high quality and wouldn't hurt my fingers.
>>215668613Being old and not giving a fuck is so based. I mean, he's at an age where no one can do anything about it. Cancel him? So what? He has absolutely millions of dollars. He's a multi time oscar winner. What can you really do at that point? Nothing. And he's right. It used to be you were quirky. But now everybody has to have a condition or mental illness or whatever. It's this modern day strive to be a unique snowflake while still labeling yourself.
>>215671484>Being diagnosed if you are is a blessing because you learn to mask better and know what you need to work on.Correct. It doesn't cure you, but it the ONE fucking time in your life when someone FINALLY explains to you what specifically is wrong with you and how to deal with it at least somewhat.
>>215671466>reeee reeee reeeeYou don't have any real illness, you are just pic related.
>>215671488If someone wrote me a list, I'd try.In fact, I'm working through a process like that, right now. I've been pushing myself to do things that cause me great amounts of stress. Doesn't change the fact that other people just don't have these barriers. Other people don't freak out at the prospect of moving slightly outside of their comfort zone. Other people will jump on a plane, and travel half the world for fun.
>>215671533>picI'm always extremely impressed by how the motherly instinct is so strong that it overrides the negative feelings that the woman would have to literally any other human with traits that their child has.
>>215671511Apparently it would be quite chilly in the winter, and you would get hand cramps, but people were tougher back then.
I like rhombic dodecahedra and have some unreleased ones. Am I an autist?
>>215668613>have millions in the bank>have women attracted to you because you are rich as hell>have people look past any defect you have because you're that rich>can afford a detached house in a nice area away from the hustle and bustle>basically get to dictate your sensory diet at any one time because you're that richhe doesn't realise that at a certain point Autistics can simply pay their way out of having Autism. He's like the south park meme of injecting billions into your bloodstream to stop having AIDS, really up his own ass
>>215671502I haven't had a friend in years at this point.Everyone kind of has friends as a child, because you're just forced into proximity with other children. No one had the internet back then either, so other children were your one source of entertainment, in a lot of cases.I'm not sure a lot of my friendships were really the good kind, in retrospect. I think they were just kind of keeping me around until something better came along. None of these people has ever bothered showing back up to see whether I killed myself or not.
>>215671488Nah, that's the absolute worst advice for an autist.An autist actually needs to first learn when he's uncomfortable, learn to understand it so he can learn how to cope with it. There's a weird unawareness of your own state that comes with autism.I used to sit with my heart pumping, cold sweat running over me, my stomach cramping, full of worries of not doing my task perfectly, and think "Hmm, did I eat something wrong?"
>>215671545Everyone has different stressors. I can't handle people chewing, and it has been an issue at my previous place of employment. I'm sure you can do things no one else can, and your efforts will surely yield the results you seek.
>>215671533Have you learned Chinese yet?
If he was autistic he wouldnt be able to act
>>215671569For me, it is the triacontahedron, because of my advanced autism.
>>215671605when does it start happening?I've tried connecting with people, and they never seem to want to know me.
>>215671596There's a very easy test for friendship.Stop initiating for some time. Don't drop off the face of the earth dramatically, just stop initiating meetups, activities together, small talk, etc. Don't shy away from these activities if they are offered to you, just stop initiating for a while.If the other person / the group of people doesn't reach out on their own with a checkup (or just with their own initiating of activities together), congrats, they were never your friends.
>>215671622It's hard to find 30 distinct colors for its 30 faces.
>>215671604Why do autists insist on being mollycoddled? It is very childish.
>>215671652There are millions of colors out there if you look.
>>215671670Society just mollycoddles neurotypical people by default. All of your needs and whims are catered to every second, and you throw a tantrum and start screaming "gatekeeping" whenever you enter a majority autistic space, and aren't immediately treated to free drinks and a blowjob.
>>215671637The only way to have a friend is to be a friend.
>>215670001the thresholds to operate in the modern world have been raised very highsocially, it requires the savoir faire of a courtier at versaillesmaterially, it requires about 100IQ at minimum, since every service now demands familiarity with technology (do NOT underestimate the amount of stupid people in this world who still don't get it)this cuts off the tails at both ends of the curve: the intelligence and awkward, and the genial but dumbthis world is made only for the middiest of midwits, they are the only ones who can tolerate it
>>215671490Funny part is indians just lie through their teeth in interviews and either fool the non-indian interviewer or if the interviewer is indian get instantly hired because indians have such a massive in-group preference that even a shit eater from Mumbai would get a spot over a new grad american
>>215671694See, I try to be people's friends, but apparently that's "stalking".
>>215668664Funny thing about this is that Marky Mark is talking with the old roastie in the back and is super annoyed by her.I can read his thoughts and they are "Wish I was near Moner"
>>215671684No, anon, distinct colors that would be easily distinguishable with a naked eye.It's somewhat of a problem even with an icosahedron that has 20 faces, let alone a triacontahedron that has 30.
>>215671698This has always been the case, sadly. There is nothing unique about the modern era besides the mental illness machines we all keep nearby.
>>215671698>since every service now demands familiarity with technology (do NOT underestimate the amount of stupid people in this world who still don't get it)Yes, but also I'm impressed that older people are kinda "grandfathered in" and their lack of tech skill is completely forgiven, just because they are already in the workforce, even in low-level positions.Someone aged 55 wouldn't be able to pass entry-level interviews that 20-somethings are subjected to, even if it's for the same exact position / role in the company.
>>215668613Had a low functioning autistic schoolmate once, she couldn't even speak>>215670290Do chuddies really believe this
>>215671670Why do I have to coddle you with everything?Why do I need to stop rocking back and forth just because you find it creepy?Why do I need to smile for you? Why do I need to look people in the eyes for you?Autists are forced to completely act against their own nature every time they're around normal people.
>>215671710While the autist frets over the slightest exaggeration in their CV
>>215671760I could do a 30 sided one in grayscale and be able to tell the colors apart. Do you have a vision impairment?
>>215671608See? Another perfect example. Spoiled shitheads tend to endlessly repeat their bullshit, because mommy will get tired of them and just give them what they want.
>>215668704yes
>>215671801When they are placed together side by side, sure.When they are all over the puzzle in a scrambled state, good luck easily figuring out whether this particular shade of grey is supposed to go all the way over there or all the way over the other there.
>>215671790>Autists are forced to completely act against their own nature every time they're around normal people.Your 'nature' will get you clocked in the mouth eventually. Coincidentally, you will stop being autistic after that.
>>215671739>near hopkinsftfy
>>215671824Why do you feel the compulsion to violate another person's body for their harmless behavior? Is your testosterone too high?
>>215671790You are free to do those things, but don't act surprised when you find yourself in situations you don't desire. Socializing is a chore, but everything good requires interacting with people.
>>215671774I was on the phone with a boomer for half hour trying to diagnose what problem they were having, which eventually we solved: she was putting a space in the username field,. and nowhere did any error message say to do otherwise. It's simply taken for granted now that everyone knows how to format a username.This is one example of about 10,000 I could give.
>>215671824Why do you have a urge to hit a kid that rocks back and forth?
>>215669777Elliott Goldenthal's score for Titus is absolutely SUBLIME.
>>215669777Looks like the full movie here, uncuthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks9JeoL2z9k
>>215671867Normies just have an innate urge to stomp autists into the ground. Even back when the word autist didn't exist.
I know two people who were normal, went to a doctor and were diagnosed with autism, then crashed their fucking lives. It was surreal to watch. Like they got the autism label then started playing up behavior associated with it. Neither of them were like that before.
>>215671883Because they stopped trying to act normal all the time.
>>215671867>>215671838Why not? The fuck you gonna do? Rock even harder? Get another made up diagnoses?
>>215671824>stop catering to neurotypical needs for five seconds, and they threaten to hit youSee, this is proof that the world coddles you. You're a spoiled brat.
>>215671915Throw a fit and bite you in tard rage
>>215668704>10 months rookie numbers
>>215671908So autists can act completely normal? They choose not to? Theyre both friendless NEETS now. Fucking ruined their lives.
>>215668613He's mostly not wrong. Most "diagnoses" are doctors pigeon-holing the varied human experience into arbitrary boxes. However, he is missing that it does exist at the extremes, where OCD is the extremes of intrusive thoughts and compulsive behaviour, autism is the extremes of inability to socialise or deal with the external world, ADHD is the extremes of lack of attention and hyperactivity.Think of them as buckets, and everyone has the same buckets. Some of us have certain buckets more full than others, and it gives us our varied difficulties and quirks. But there are occasions where some people's buckets are full or overflowing, and it cripples them. Just because your "autism" bucket is half-filled, doesn't mean that nobody exists with a full one.
>>215668613I get what he's saying and can certainly see it but as a near 33 year old man who can tell you about the varieties of armored vehicles used in the Vietnam War but can't tell you the way into another persons heart, I do feel like it's a bit more of a label. But ultimately I am just as human as a normie and life goes on.
>>215671811>people who go out of their way to avoid getting attention are attention whoresby that logic I guess being anonymous is more of an attention whore thing than tripfagging
>>215671930Guess which state they are happier in.
>>215671917>neurotypical needsAnother phrase you learned from reddit to throw around to excuse being a shithead.
>>215671915We'll casually mention autism and how we would like minor changes to be made in society, and you will spend hours screaming "snowflake", because it upsets you so much.
Autism is a normalfag condition now. It's mostly diagnosed in normalfags with therapists.
>>215669427You thought chewing 5gum was next level
>>215671960I learned the term neurotypical on autistic forums in the mid 00's.
>>215671930>So autists can act completely normal? They choose not to?In the same way you can walk around while lifting huge bolders but choose not toOr a schizo can try ignoring their hallucinations but chooses not to
>>215671963>we would like minor changes to be made in societyI would like 'autists' to be flogged until they stop trying to change society like a bunch of trannies. Which they overwhelmingly are.
>>215671930No, autists can never act completely normally, they'll always fuck up eventually. They can try to blend in, try to use previous social examples to feign being normal, but it takes a lot of work for them and they're not able to adapt to all circumstances like normal people can. It's why they do weird shit in the first place, they literally don't realise it's weird unless someone points it out, and then it's only that specific thing they can try to avoid around others later.
>>215671983>i learned this made up phrase on shithead forums where all people raised by single mothers congregate
>>215671988society is fucking gay and oversocializedwhat's wrong with changing it?
>>215671988>"dude, please help me to get a job, because I would like to contribute">"I want to beat you with a whip"How is this not you acting like a retard and throwing a tantrum?
>>215672003There we go, reddit already shedding it's camouflage.
>>215671698people on the spectrum get the short end of the stick both waysi think brute forcing the social savoir faire, while incredibly taxing, is actually the easier part since you can do that "manually"the real hard ceiling is achieving top tier success, which demands a generalist, not a trees specialist who can't see the forest, and that's the part that goes straight against your cognitive grain.
>>215670098Just enjoy the nuggets of goodness man, I'm neurotic too but most of us nutbars have a tendency to not see the forest for the trees. I bet you enjoy food and movies still.
>>215672013>people on the spectrum get the short end of the stick both waysThere is no spectrum, but you need to get stick.
>>215671998seethe.
>>215672012>autistic people ask for one thing, and suddenly 4chan is on the side of the globohomo gayplex, and the HR mafia
>>215672013There's enough specialist tech jobs that are well paying and require barely any human interaction. I work with a few obvious social retards and no one cares. Most 'autists' on 4chan are really just lazy and afraid of failure. Their poor social skills come from a life of hiding away after some bad experiences in their formative years.
>>215671998>shithead forums where all people raised by single mothers congregateHe said autism forums, not 4chan.
>>215672038Autism has become another trendy mental illness. A quirky descriptor to put in a Twitter bio. Doesn't hurt that it ensures a lifetime of going to a psychiatrist.
>>215672038If you don't have to wherewithal to actually attempt to change then you deserve to be stuck in a little rut you lazy little fuck. God forbid society and other people have standards and you need to improve and work on yourself to meet them.
>gfs friend gets an autism diagnosis>doesn't seem autistic at all>married and has a kid>was a cheerleader >was popular and sociable Are they just having a laugh now?
>>215672066society's standard are determined by the winners of society, who make sure it keeps benefiting mostly them
>>215672061Even if it has, I *actually* have a disability. We didn't all get diagnosed after it was cool.I would have much rather have been normal, and been able to experience things that all of the people around me seem to get by default (like sex).>>215672066I'm asking for you to at least explain to me what you want me to do, and explain it in simple terms, which none of you retards can ever do. You just immediately fly off the handle and start threatening violence or excommunication from society.In spite of this, I am apparently not supposed to hate society or you, because that makes me a Reddit SJW or something.
>>215672066The people in these threads will never change and they always act the same. They've had a bit too much encouragement to lay around and self pity. Honestly we'd probably be better off of we only acknowledged mega retards as autists and just considered the ones capable of posting on 4chan as somewhat retarded.
>>215672122You aren't offering me the tools to change.
>>215672089This is what I told my coworkers when it came up about le surging autist rates. It's mostly from people going "oh you know a lot about something? You're have autism!" and psychatrists wanting a check. If your GF's friend is also a woman, then it's "women are just as autistic as men they just hide it better." There's definitely women autists and people with genuine autism but technology has nuked everyone's social skills and people just don't want to face problems any more.
>>215672130You have to get those yourself you lazy little faggot.
>>215672158>do a le "change", but we wont tell you how, or what intoOkay, I'll buy a red coat, and start calling myself Steve. Is it working yet?
>>215672112>excommunication from societyYou've done that to yourself. Go out there. Touch grass and ACTUALLY TALK TO PEOPLE. If you fuck up, try again and improve.
>>215672130At this point it'd probably require yoy to beat your head against a wall for months or even years. If you were willing to endure failure that long you probably wouldn't be in 4chan talking about how helpless you are.
>>215672178Hundreds of millions of years of evolution has give your genes the blueprints for being a successful, functioning human being.
>>215672180Why do normies teach each other social stuff when they ask each other to do so, but refuse to teach social retards social stuff when they are the ones who need even even more than fellow normies do?
>>215672180I've tried that for years, and it doesn't work.What do you think is outside? I guess for you it's crowds of people who are just like you, who you can actually talk to, and get things out of.And all I see is crowds of you, and you're a belligerent asshole who clearly doesn't like me.
>>215672040i'm that guy in the corner, reeeeing that we're not following some methodology, while the rest of the team is totally fine operating in that chaotic system, they deliver results, actually amazing results, and i have this weird suspicion that they may be in the right.
>>215672193So smash people's brains in with a rock, and start raping? That's your advice?
>another autist thread>'autists' keep claiming that having to put on a social front is a symptom of autismThey don't know?
>>215672200Of course I don't like you. You have the arrogance to go "No, it's everyone else's fault I'm pathetic!" Take some god damn responsibility or just accept your place in history and keep moping.
>>215672226I'm literally asking you to just tell me what you want me to do so I can do it.>NUUUUU GO OUTSIDEThat doesn't work!
>>215672112You're shit out of luck.In the past, you would have been moulded into some form of passable shape by church or boy scouts or whatever. When the emphasis was on the team and not the individual, and the raising of all together as a collective, and the whole village got involved.Unfortunately, the Randians and individualists won, and it's now every man for himself. You must "work on yourself" or perish.
>>215672200>starts having a histrionic fit because of 4chan commentsI think this is your main problem. If someone doesn't like you it seems to cause a fit, as opposed to you just moving on. At the end of the day, people are not a monolith. There are people who are willing to hang out with retards.
What the fuck are Psychologists even doing? Why do people, who are completely disabled, masturbate in public, shit their pants while playing Mafia 3, have slurred, retarded speech and are incapable of living independently AND people, who are reserved, introverted, smart and are less swayed by emotions BOTH called Autists? This is ridiculous. Psychologists should be all publicly whipped for this nonsense.
>>215672193Said millions of years of evolution effort can be undone by random dna mutations. Which may or may not be the cause mental illnesses like autism as sometimea theh are the cause of physical disabilities.
>>215672256I have a right to be upset. Life hasn't been kind to me, the way it has to you.
>>215668613But I am literally him in Remains of the Day; except no job, and no Emma Thompson.Disappointing. I like Hopkins autismo-incel kino. Shadowlands had some of that too, except he was heartbroken anyway.
>>215672254Well you sound like a little bitch that's going to perish. Accept your place in history.
>>215672226Has blaming and hating yourself ever worked?I did it for two decades, only got me a life I despise, and I'm just sick of it.total normie deathtard pride worldwide
>>215672261they stopped saying "aspergers" because it has associations with the Nazis.
>>215672267This is your other problem. You have no idea who I am or what my life has been like. You assume its been easy because I've implied I'm not a fuckup. Look into people biographies sometimes, especially figures from the past. You're going to find a lot of people who had it much worse than you and did much more with it.
>>215672267>Life hasn't been kindLet me guess, kids called you a faggot in school and teachers thought you were annoying? Such hardship!
>>215672261Differentiating based on intelligence is bad and nazi or whatever. So now they get lumped on the same label.
>>215672308If you have ever had sex or a paying job, you have lived a better life than me.
>>215672318Being dehumanised every day, to the point that I disassociated from my own name and reflection.
>>215668613I agree I've always been hyper just control it
>>215672335If you have a diagnosis you can get neetbux. If you can get neetbux you can save it and get a disgusting hooker. The more you say the more I'm convinced that you're really not trying.
>>215672291Asperger wasn't a nazi.In Germany the official diagnosis for high-functioning autism is still Asperger's and if someone wants to avoid association with nazi stuff from the past, it's Germany.
>>215672354I don't want a hooker. I want human connection.
>autists claim that those who functioned before a diagnosis were just putting on a front and actually were very unhappy>every post is about how they're so unhappy actually doing what they want (wallowing in self pity) and feel the need to be part of society Really makes me think
>>215672365You aren't going to find it typing to a faceless morass of people. Talk to people.>But I'm badSo? Don't be afraid of failure
>>215672391Before widespread diagnosis, you could just walk into a place, and get a job, and within a year you'd have a house and a wife.
>>215672405Okay, well I've been trying to make friends on other sites for years, and I don't get it.Everything I try is either too much, or not enough. You're always stepping over lines that other people wont tell you are there, but will punish you for violating. People snap at you for jokes, and think you're joking when you're serious. I don't get any of it.
>>215672409You can still do that if you put in the efford dumbass coddled kid
When I'm king I'm going to make autism illegal. Those who function will no longer have autism by decree and those who don't will be put in camps where you will learn discipline. From this thread it seems to be what you want.
>>215672422>just give a firm handshake and...List one time that has actually worked for you.
>>215672391They *want* to be sociable normies, but they are unable to. All they can do is pretend, sometimes semi-successfully, while still feeling miserable. If the pressure is off and they don't need to pretend, for one reason or another, they are still unhappy with their mental state but at least they don't have to perform *this* on top of it.
>>215672422Yeah, getting a house is super easy.Housing prices and economy isn't fucked at all.It's funny how the moment autists complain about something, you suddenly have to defend all the garbage that is modern society.
>>215672409Nigger, I've been trying for 10 years to get a full time job. It's hard as fuck because my field is all comprised of boomers who don't want to retire but you fucking know what I do? I work anyway I can. >muh houseIt's hard for everyone. You aren't special for having "autism">muh wifeYou aren't an interesting prospect for women right now. Maybe that'll change if you actually improved.
>>215672458Okay, but I don't even understand how to get an interview. When I ask people they direct me to some website that supposedly lists all of the jobs in the area and it's like>nurse - clearly I'm not qualified or built for that>driving instructor - same>some kind of programming job that I don't understand the description of - sameWhere's the shit I can actually do? I've been trying to get in touch with someone who owns a business down the road from me, and they're never around.Everyone else just gets how this works, and they wont tell me.
>>215672446Modern society isnt garbage, youre just a lazy tard wallowing in self pity who refuses to improve.
>>215672529>I love the modern world, actually -4chan, when an autistic person complains about something
>>215672529The first step in improving is knowing yourself and what's wrong with you and getting appropriate treatment.
>>215672504>When I ask people they direct me to some website that supposedly lists all of the jobs in the area and it's like>>nurse - clearly I'm not qualified or built for that>>driving instructor - same>>some kind of programming job that I don't understand the description of - sameHere's the real kicker. An actual advice from a fellow retard:Virtually no one who applies to these is qualified according to the job requirements. And those who successfully get the job also very often aren't qualified according to the job requirements.I'm dead serious.Normies apply REGARDLESS of whether or not they are qualified. They largely don't really think about it, they do this based on vibes. Also this works because the listed requirements are random-ass bullshit.I mean, yeah, the job of some strongman intimidating bouncer is "very obviously" not for you, and it's also not for a large percentage of normies. But anything more "civilized" is simply for people who can TALK THEIR WAY into the job. Confidence is like 85% of success here.Obviously this doesn't apply to suuuuper specialized jobs where you do actually genuinely need to have a specific skill set that you will use daily.
>>215672545Stop pretending that you aren't the one who is ultimately responsible for your conditions. Do you want to shit in diapers your entire life? Things are hard. They have always been hard. You are a narcissist who refuses to make their life better because "no I'm good enough it's the world who needs to lower itself to my standards"
>>215672562I don't have the mental fortitude for a lot of that stuff. If I can barely have a conversation, I'm not going to survive as a nurse. What I'd like to do is shovel horse shit or something. Something I can actually do.
>>215672594>the world is fair and just, actually-4chan, when an autistic person complains about somethingUnbelievable...So you're fine with Indians and AI taking your job then? You can just work harder, surely?
>>215672617At least try you wimp.
>>215672606No, this part I do get, and I empathise to some degree. (though the other anon is also right that one *does* need to get over oneself and do inconvenient things to get somewhere in life)However, with job interviews it's literally like I described.Your thought process: oh no I read this job offer and I think it's not for meA normal person's thought process: lmao apply apply apply apply oh shit an interview haha bullshit bullshit bullshit confidence confidence yay got the jobNote the complete lack of "hmmm am I qualified for this?".
>>215672629explain how
>>215672606>What I'd like to do is shovel horse shit or something. Something I can actually do.Unironically try bugging zoos for a job then, jobs for shoveling shit is something those usually have in demand.
>>215672038>>autistic peopleYou are not autistic, you are a spoiled shithead.>I *actually* have a disabilityThrowing a hissy fit because mommy didn't buy you new Labubu is not a disability.
>>215672646I mean, I know my own personality. I know I'm not at all comfortable with hospitals, blood, being around old or frail people even.I can't give the patients the care they need, because I approach human interactions like a chimp with a hammer.You've got to be realistic about things.
>>215668664>GropesThat aint groping
>>215672446You definitely don't sound like standard reddit faggot.
>>215672629nta but I'm almost 40I spent almost my entire life trying to fit in, trying to be normal, making friends I can't actually stomach being around for long, agreeing to meetups I hate and I dread for weeks, trying to work in an environment where I'm constantly on edge, fear & flight reflex constantly triggering in my autistic brain, obsessing the whole time when I'm home about possible things I did that were weird when I was out.A lot of constant effort just to make my life worse, only looking forward to the day I die and finally have peace.
>>215672679I was a child 20 years ago. I don't know what the fuck a labubu is.
>>215672617See>>215672706
>>215672712fucking kill yourself asshole.
>>215672726Calling something Reddit is a thought-defeating cliche that 4channers fall back on whenever they get butthurt over feeling dumb or called out.
>>215672712Bro you are just a fucking reddit attention whore.
>>215668613But he is a fellow autist.Other than a limited reconciliation in the early 90s, he cut his own daughter off with zero feeling.
>>215672705If you have a shoulder fetish then it is.
>>215672750No, that's just typical boomer parenting.
>>215668613he's right.always bothered me how losers used deficiencies & abnormalities like OCD, autism, homosexuality, being a woman etc like they're positive traits.
>>215672267Life isn't kind to 99% of all men. Stop being a child.
>>215673158autism is a life long condition that only gets worse with agethis isn't one of your dumb little normie problem like boohoo some girl doesn't want your cock
>>215672335You're a hysterical man-child. That's your diagnosis.
>>215673183Stop being a child.
>>215670001>An autistic person wouldn't have been "disabled" 200 years ago. They would have been a valued worker or a monk, probably.Autism is seen as a “disability” because autists struggle to partake in hyper-social American capitalism.
>>215673260Children are ignorant but believe they know everything, just like you.
>>215671797>frets over the slightest exaggeration in their CVLiterally me
>>215672180>ACTUALLY TALK TO PEOPLEWho? I’m not walking up to a random person on the street
>>215668613I don't think an actor with that kinda emotional range has autism (it's the opposite and bipolar people make the best actor since they can hit so many emotional notes).An autistic actor would have no range and could only play autistic characters while a great actor can play an autist better than an autist even knows how to play himself.
>>215671797Autists can't act outside of autism.If you think about it, it's what makes autists so weird: they can't act around other people.They are always "themselves".
>>215672261A whole industry has sprung up around conflating ASD as a thing that contans such a swathe of sympytoms and outcomes partially so that parents can pay to get their child privately diagnosed to get extra time/support in schools. The same has been done with other conditions to make more money and give parents/kids an advantage in academicaly competitive environments. I used to work in high achieving private schools and the rates of diagnosis for ASD, Dyslexia/Dyscalculia and ADHD were far higher than the national average because it led to more advantages in exams. Schools and governments also support it because they can get more funding/jobs for support.
>>215673358so it's been Game Theoried already.if being a gay retard was socially beneficial, we'd see a lot of more self-reported gay retards.
>>215671797they are awful liars.they can't believe their own lies and then play along.
>>215673379Some people do self-report as autists.Most famously Musk.Utterly ridiculous to call someone, so capable at manipulation he managed to get the whole world to buy into his hype, autistic.
>>215673358What you just said reminded me in what horrifying Dark Times we live, where pretending to be retarded gives you numerous social and material advantages. But from the government's side that's even worse, because they think they are actively investing time, focus, money and energy on the retards, instead of nourishing the excellent. We are so cooked.
>>215673392It's a superpower in a way: it allows one to avoid culpability in this modern world.An exploitation of Hanlon's Razor but rather than account for wickedness, you just say "Sorry I'm autistic" and avoid responsibility.
>>215673349>>215673391The funniest thing about this is that your average normie person cannot fucking fathom someone not lying.You can explicitly list lying as something that disgusts you and as something that you'd never do. You can know a person for many many years and not even fucking ONCE lie about something. And they still don't believe your claim that you don't lie.Meanwhile, the normies themselves fucking LOVE to lie about the most mundane shit.
>>215673413>It's a superpower in a way: it allows one to avoid culpability in this modern world.It means you have an excuse not to act how other people expect you to act.
>>215673422>Meanwhile, the normies themselves fucking LOVE to lie about the most mundane shit.because lying is a human superpower.animals don't lie.only small petty gods like us do.
>>215673438Everyone loves animals more than actual people for a reason.
