I feel like this franchise is pretty dated. Like when the books came out it was muh russians with SPECTRE not even showing up until the 8th of 12 novels and being a minor organization in the novels compared to the Russian SMERSH.The other big thing, in both the early films and books is like half of the run time/words are travelogues. Like big sections of the Connery films were >look at these gypsies>this is what egypt is like>oh cool it's japanso like the over reliance on spectre instead of an actual advisory (Broslin's films were good because they actually delt with my russia and muh china) and the fact that travelogues aren't really a thing anymore because everything's on youtube and cultures have homogenized due to the internet makes the entire thing feel like a dated parody compared to some of the more modern series like mission impossible or the borne shit. Like I like a bunch of the Bond films, but it feels like they are having a hard time dealing with the concept, especially when there have been like what 4 good bond films since the USSR collapsed?
>>215670335I see the movies as a remnant of better times
What a cool totally organic thread.
>>215670335>Broslin's films
>>215670335Movies featuring countries and cultures from 40+ years ago feels kinda dated? Weird, I can't imagine why that would be.
>>215670463>why would someone post about films on /tv/. we need another south park thread >>215670497kek, it's the mass migration and the internet. a bunch of the early bond films spend long sequences just showing the views and cultural things. Zulu does a similar thing with the african dances and horror films did a similar thing with tits
>>215670593The Bond films always feel like the ultimate window into the past for me. I'm just glad I got to experience the world like that through the early 90s until the true shit started to hit the fan in the very late 2000s. The world won't be the same again, and that hurts me every time I think about it.
>>215670335How come James Bond never got any STDs after scoring with so many chicks? Is it ever explained in the books?
>>215670674stds weren't invented until the 80s >muh herpes most thirdies already have that>muh clapanti biotics deal with that
>>215670674STDs come from gay sex and loose whores
>>215670674He never barebacked in bathhouses or fucked streetwalkers so he was perfectly safe.
>>215670674STDs weren't as widespread back then since people didn't go abroad as much, nor were there thirdies and turbo poorfags in the West yet. And if you were going abroad and hooking up, chances were you had some good money and ineracted with higher class people, so chances werre very low to catch shit. The whole STDs and diseases thing didn't really take off until the mid to late 80s.
>>215670703>ignores how the clap was very widespread in the 60s and 70s amongst sluts and whores
>>215670714Note how I said it didn't affect people with money in the upper class. The clap was mostly among hippies and those swinger retards through the 60s and 70s.
>>215670703>The whole STDs and diseases thing didn't really take off until the mid to late 80s.what a weird and bizarre world you live in. stds have been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years. even shakespeare writes about them.
>>215670740Also the military, but your point stands.
>>215670754STDs are likely as old as sex itself. Animals can get STDs if you think about it.
>>215670761True, Vietnam vets probably brought back a wealth of diseases in the 70s.
>>215670780>and Korea>and WWII>and WWI>and the Philippines>etc
>it's DATED>it HASN'T AGED WELL>it was GOOD FOR ITS TIMEonly shit taste plebs say things like this
>>215671636I didn't say it's bad. I said the structure of the films and books were made for people living in the 50s and 60s and don't work today because 12 minute long travelogue scenes aren't as interesting when the internet exists and they keep using silly fictional terrorist orgs instead of Russia or China the 90s films were good because they had the backdrop of the fall of the USSR, rogue former KGB agents/groups and the bong handover of hong kong to chinayou could make a cool bond film now but you'd have to make china the badguy or set it during the cold war and make russia the bad guy and they won't do that. instead they have their cartoon villains
I have little hope for the Villeneuve film.I'm pretty sure it will be 99% action and 1% spy movie
>>215670335Yeah, I think it was a copout that they never really dealt as much with the reds as enemies. Substituting SPECTRE for SMERSH. Then with Detente, being buddy-buddy with Gogol. The end of the Cold War has also been a disaster for the series, as all they can do is lone wolves now. Yes they did Red China, but we buddy up with them to stop 'Rupert Murdoch'. They did try with North Korea, and a bit of Cuba, but went too insane with the rest of it.I like the idea of future Bonds just being set in the 60s from now on; so they can actually have the Cold War. Also hatred of Russians is back to Cold War levels now. Also I like the international travelogues, makes each film feel different, even if the same thing always happens in a Bond film (the 'Goldfinger formula').Just fucking sickening how the Western elites sold out to the evil Red Chinese progressively between 1972 and 2001. Now we can't offend them.
>>215670630I agree. Though the economic rot of the West started in the 70s. They just went mask off with the 2008 cataclysm.Added to that the sellout of the Western working class by letting Red China into the WTO in 2001. Now's it's a globalist race to the bottom, and slavery.https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
>>215672453tomorrow never dies still plays a little bit with the actual international politics issue and goldeneye is believable as kgb remnants. the craig shit is just>muh super villains
>>215670335who has the best hairstyle
>>215672661Brosnan
>>215670335capeshit with attractive women for boomers
>>215672684how do i style that
>>215672694the first few films aren't capeshit. it does devolve into capeshit by like thunderball
>>215672694much better than capeshit with ugly women for zoomers
I couldn't sit through From Russia With Love. In the 60s it was probably exciting to see what a Gypsy camp and Turks were like. Now it's all too familiar
>>215670335remove craig he was never bond
>>215672099It will probably be like 30% shots of dimly lit empty rooms. 30% wide sweeping shots of nothing. And like the rest just some gay subversion of expectations or something
>>215672618Not in the first two. Spectre isn’t even mentioned. Casino Royal isn’t that far fetched. Criminal ((international bankers)) teaming up with third world warlords.
>>215670335>uhhh is that a world without globohomo? that's so dated oof>why is he travelling, he should be streaming from his bedroom fr fr>this is like a poor parody of bald and bankrupt CRINGEonly thing missing is bitching about sexy scenes
Modern Bond, like the novels did, should focus on the theme of a post-British empire Britain.
>>215670335I don’t really have any opinion on the matter; but I do applaud you OP for making a thread that you at least put some thought into. So I’ll provide you a bump for that at least
>>215670335I think the biggest reason the Bond films are fucked are because it's a product of the practical era and companies are just unwilling to make movies like that any more. The original movies served as a showcase for the pinnacle of those filmmaking techniques.>insane irl stunts>miniature models>huge sets that required the building of a dedicated sound stage>beautiful location filmingThey put on a real show and the making of those movies were almost as much of an adventure as the story itself.
>>215670674>Is it ever explained in the books?He really isn't a womanizer in the original Fleming books, he just has one romantic partner in each story.
>>215676310>I think the biggest reason the Bond films are fuckedBoomer schlock.
Because Bond worked when it was set in the Cold War. For all its faults, when there were 2 superpowers; there was a sense of international order despite the fact the US and the Soviets were undermining each other at every turn. Nowadays, the same dynamics can't work with the PRC or the new Russian Federation. James Bond can't work anymore because DEI prohibits a white cisgender heterosexual male to be a government operative. The West is killing itself while the PRC and Russia is laughing as they can sit back and grow stronger. The Chinese are making a killing and are just watching us bleed away needlessly. It's the same reason why spy/military thriller books are no longer good once the Soviets folded. You can only do so many books about Islamic terrorism or the Chinese. The Soviets were kino adversaries; they were Western in culture and outlook but ideologically opposed via Communism and collectivism.
