>supposed to be a computer hacker genius>did not know how to order drugs on the silk road
>>215670370>incel that feels lonely and uses drugs because of it>fucks a woman first ep in
>>215670943sounds like he's not an incel at all
>>215670370>computer hacker genius>fucks a woman first ep in
how were the 80s/90s phreaking/hacking crowd all druggies? how do you acquire heroin without social connections?
>Rammy Malick>installs more RAM on your downloadbravo Terrence
>>215670989Then why the fuck the whole plot is that he's lonely when he has multiple friends, easy sex and a sister that cares for you, plot is retarded and hacking is retarded too, tv porn for wanabee hackers.
DO NOT REDEEM SAAR
OP did not watch the series, he literally busts their version of Silk Road at great risk to himself because he thinks the whole site is immoral.
>>215671065>only incels can be... le lonely
>>215670370There's no point watching this is there? I already know there's some kind of Fight Club twist because they spoiled that in a trailer.
>order drugs on the silk road>1 bitcoin is now worth over $100,000
>>215671132yes, unironically
>>215671132Uh yeah. Normalfags are only lonely when they're shit people and don't realise it. They still have friends and access to casual sex but that's not good enough for them. They don't get validated 24hrs a day, so they start to think nobody gets them. Compare that to an incel, who probably hasn't even looked somebody in the eye in months. Loneliness is a choice for normies, it's not a choice for incels.
>>215671340The twist you're talking about is really a question for like 60% of the first season, it's not the point of the whole show (or is it?)
>>215671132It's a staple cliche of Mr. Robot threads. There is always at least one incel that gets bitter over Elliot fucking a druggie whore next door.
>>215671034They weren't
>>215671614kot
>>215671614if nobody did that it wouldn't be worth anything.
i've tried twice and i cannot make it past the first season of this shit. muh capitalism muh debt + i am such a dark troubled loner + the tech wankery add up to more cringe than i can stand. even the cinematography is a joke with every other shot being of like a huge gray wall with the character tiny in the corner because like modernity is so oppressive dude don't you get it. insufferable trash
>>215671709its pretty wild how these sweaty greasy neckbeards get so triggered over the fact he fucked shayla lmfao, "he had sex?! he was supposed to be just like me! this show isn't accurate!"
>>215671065Its written by normies and to normies, having less than like 100 friends and 40 bodies is weird loner territory
>>215671833so i guess you can still be lonely even if you have easy sex, friends and family around? great, what's next? having millions of dollars but feeling poor? lmao
>>215672081Yes. If you are a schizo like Elliot is. Which you'd know if you actually watched the show. But you are an incel who saw him shagging a junkie, couldn't help but project his own loneliness onto the character, and turned it off whimpering about how oppressed you are.
>>215671065this
>>215671132Nah no doubt normoes can feel lonely, but they would crumble beneath incel loneliness.
>>215672157>a schizo like ElliotHe was a Fight Club ripoff.
>>215672207Yes? They play many renditions of Where is My Mind in the show. It's very aware of where its main inspiration is coming from. My point is that Elliot's talk of "loneliness" is utterly manufactured by his own shizo mind. And you don't have to even watch the show until Elliot 'Prime' outright says it in the last episodes. You can infer it from season 1 alone. >>215672204What an excruciating cross you are bearing. Thoughts and prayers over your inability to talk to women.
>>215670370Portia was so hot when he fucked that old man.
>>215672358It's not a realistic portrayal of a schizo.
>>215672157Oppressed? lonely? nigger what? who talks like this?Are you really going to use elliot's schizophrenia to explain every retarded pretext the show has made?You have a swedish faggot and a trannsvetite villain, a faggot main character that is edgy haxor that uses kali linux as daily.I won't lie, i liked the tv show when it came out but it was the factor of novelty that got the attention from me. When i rewatched it years later, it was clear that this was absolute garbage of a tv show and it only got my attention due to my quite green taste and underdeveloped brain.
>>215671614>Remember a guy in uni who used to order drugs for his dorm>Remember him telling me about this bitcoin shit you could use to pay>In 2012>Downloaded the wallet>Didn't do anything because "what, for a dollar I get only 1/10 of a bitcoin? I need to spend $11 to get even one?">Spend $200 on Star Citizen Kickstarter insteadThat $200 pledge would have literally been worth 2 million earlier this monthI haven't even played Star CitizenI'm not even sure the game is out yet
>>215672451>Are you really going to use elliot's schizophrenia to explain every retarded pretext the show has made?No, I won't. Nowhere in my post did I imply that I was talking about anything in the show but Elliot's self-imposed fathomless shizo loneliness. Don't fuck that strawman to death.>Oppressed? lonely? nigger what?>NOOOOOO WHY ELLIOT BE FUCKING SOME HOE!??! IT'S NOT INCEL FREINDLY EXPIRIENCE!!! NORMIES JUST DON'T GET US!That's what, nigger. Every Mr. Robot thread has a variation of this sentiment where incel, who sees the scene with Shayla and immediately has dissonance from projecting himself onto Elliot. Crying about how the show doesn't understand "his pain">>215672448Sure. Nor it's "literally me, 4chan incel" the show.
>>215672081easy sex? you must be grosser and sweatier than I imagined, lmao.friends? family? he had like 4 friends and 1 family member the entire show lmfao
>>215670370>order drugs on the silk roadYou thinkk anyone with a brain was stupid enough to ever considera)Buying garbage from unknowns and eating it to get 'high'b)Compromising themselves by engaging in phyical delivery of anything illegal you can be jailed for owning by fucking courier companies and postal services?I know your a thick drug addict OP but come on.
>>215672587Let me get what you're saying.1. All the criticism of elliot having sex and every imaginable social interaction is made by incels that are projecting their expectations of loneliness onto elliot but not getting the realistic outcome by obtaining a result far for portrayal of loneliness2. His loneliness is due to the fact of his perception of the world by his schizophrenia altering the realityBut you seem to forget some things, how 1, the schizophrenia is not what made him "lonely" it's the personality of elliot that he was in which was socially awkward due to him being abused during his childhood, which the schizophrenia part really played a role in the plot as a reveal more to his personality of MR ROBOT, but had not much to do with his "loneliness". So the loneliness per se in the tv show, is a portrayal of how normies see socially inept individuals with some kind of autism and trauma that makes them unable to interact normally with human beings which, shocker many of them inhabit 4chan and have some thoughts about this tv which yes it might sound cliche but i am not artistic of any kind i am just creating a case for them if you will.So in essence, at the beginning they really went for the hacker autistic socially inept anarchist with issues beyond your comprehension, wanting to take down a system and the schizophrenia plot is used for other reveals not for understanding his loneliness.
>>215672892>the schizophrenia is not what made him "lonely"Have you actually finished the show? The schizophrenia is the literal reason this "lonely" Elliot even exists. The main and the last reveal of the show is that "Mastermind" Elliot was created as a lonely sperg because Elliot lost his onetits to a Chad and felt that his life was not going anywhere. The protagonist Elliot we follow through the show exists to be the miserable vigilante Hackerman because Elliot "Prime" indulges in the fantasy of being one (but not really). It's prebaked into his psyche. He cries in the corners and thinks of himself as a freak because that's what Elliot infused his Batman larp with. I don't know what makes people even assume that the series explores "loneliness" on any thematic level at all. ALL Elliot shpeels and soapboxing are about how people obfuscate themselves in society, about what they want, and don't want people to see, plus something something capitalism. But then again people who usually complain about how "this show just doesn't get incels, man" usually don't make it past 1st episode after inability of processing that Elliot casual fucks his dealer and they are virgins in their 20s.
Lol at the malding retard itt posting paragraphs in defense of bad writing on a USA show.
>>215672754Everything had lots of ratings from verified users. Shipping is easy because of plausible deniability “someone ordered it to my house and probably wanted to steal it!”.Speaking from experience, silkroad was less sketchy than random in person dealers. Higher quality as well. And the packaging was always fun, seeing the random ways they tried to hide stuff - usually meant you got a free mug or some European crackers or something.
>>215672754lol not only you are a pussy faggot but also a fucking retardwhy do zoomies afraid of anything feel a need to lie about stuff trying to excuse the fact that they were too scared or retarded to try it
>>215673110That's all you got from my post? do i really need to explain myself again?Read again, the multiple personalities are not involved at all in his loneliness and we don't know about the multiple personalities at that point at all and what is explained later doesn't really matter, so it is about the elliot personality that is on screen and how it's portrayed, do you understand?The same way traits of maniac psycho anarchist personality mr robot are portrayed, so is the elliot "autistic mastermind" personality is portrayed, and it is portrayed on the basis of belief of how people look at such individuals.The issue that people take upon this portrayal is the unrealistic view of it, that's what people don't like about it, yes i understand your point that the tv show is not about "elliot's loneliness" but you seem to not understand the issue here at all for some people and it's really disengenious to disregard this topic as "incel topic" and just brush it off with just have sex, you don't understand this wasn't about loneliness at all. I think it just hasn't crossed your mind at all, because in your mind it was completely realistic and plausable for that sequence of event to ocurr.
>>215673311>do i really need to explain myself again?No, I don't need another serving of word salad. All the issues incels have stem from Elliot having sex. So it's incel wailing.I observe this in every single Mr. Robot thread, 1/3 of the threads about this show are even created with a wailing of an incel with content of>says is lonely>has sex>me lonely>no sex>me vexed>the multiple personalities are not involved at all in his lonelinessDid you just not read my post? Am I supposed to disregard the finale and point of the main character's existence to indulge a unique incel perception of the first episode of how they can't project themselves onto him? That's very convenient. Let's do that then.>No, Tony Soprano is not degenerate mobster who swallowed the rest of his conscience deciding to never change, that's not what happens in the first season. >No, Vic Mackey is not a backstabbing bridge burner, who will destroy his friends to save his skin, he says it's all about the team in the first season.If you selectively ignore the parts of the character and the overall arc they go through of the story, why should I take any of the incel "critique" about how Elliot is not "literally them gooning on /pol/" seriously? He is not "lonely sperg, just like you 4chan incel," He is a vigilante hackerman who just happens to be lonely for aesthetics sake, aesthetics that are entirely warranted considering why he even exists. All the "literally me" projection are your own. The show starts with him owning a pedo jeet in the cafe so what do you think is the main focus is?Considering the nature of the show, Sam Esmail most certainly always planned the "Tyler Durden doesn't know he is Tyler Durden" twist from the start. The show drops clear hints about how Elliot is not acting like himself, obfuscating it to be the emergence of Mr. Robot, but as the show later reveals, it is actually the emergence of Mastermind and the real Elliot being locked in the mind barn.
>>215670370He knew how, it was just his excuse to force himself to interact with people
>>215673674>aestheticsGOOD JOB!!!!!Now those "aesthetics" how is the portrayal of them you think are in regards to what it is trying to portray?A lonely, unable to socialize, vigilante hacker weirdo that "hakz people" rather than socializing with them and to "know their darkest secrets that they do not show in society" oh my goood! fsociety man.You cannot see the culture of the tv show, the essence. You are fixated on what it's trying to portray instead of looking at what it really is in essence, it's a view of the world and desires of a certain culture, especially at that time in america.I'll spell it out for you: leftie commie slop porn of a vigilante hacker distributing from the wealth to the poor while dealing with current society norms and mental issues with a dash of faggots taking up the ass, strong independent women and men dressing up as women.
>>215670370>be opioid addict>"yeah let me just buy my pills which i need NOW at a place where the order can take up to multiple weeks to arrive"great fucking ideahe also needed/wanted an in with vera
>>215673886Nah i think op is talking about the trope plot which forces us to meet vera and makes the girl die. I remember faintly he mentioned something not wanting anything to do with vera but he really needed morphine and didn't know where to get it from anywhere else.Which is funny because for a hacker he doesn't have a dnm connect or just have a data mine with people's prescriptions which you can use to go to the pharmacy, hell you could get an order other ways, plus morphine is such a terrible choice.Jew esmail didn't do such a good job researching, but it's to be expected, it's more political focused that cyber.
>>215673833>how is the portrayal of them you think are in regards to what it is trying to portray?Can you finish the show? Or if you actually finished, stop ignoring the whole point of the character, you pol rotted droll.Elliot is a wagie daydreaming about how he is going to own the government It's fake, Elliot is an embodiment of a larp, a fantasy of a boring man martialized via a shizo personality splintering.If you are actually aggrieved that the walking stereotype of a lonely hacker ends up being an artificial cliché of a lonely hacker, you might as well be actually autistic. These people do not exist in real life. He is not you, he was never meant to be you, he was never meant to be anyone. He is a sentiment.>You cannot see the culture of the tv show, the essence>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY BURDEN OF BEING A CULTURE WARRIOR No, I have a family. And I see this story as what it is. A tragedy of one of the personalities having to come to terms with the fact that his suffering goes hand in hand with his existence.>I'll spell it out for youYou already did. Now you are just trying to have the last word by doubling down on ignoring how artificial Elliot is and how the show very bluntly acknowledges this by trying to railroad it into a pol autism pit about commie and trannies. Why didn't you just start with this instead pretending you have so grievances about "portrayal"
>>215672649>4 friends
>>215672582Hahaha I'm in the same boatI've played maybe 15 minutes since I bought it
>>215671614>>215671730Bitcoin isn't anonymous and you will be busted for trying to buy illegal things with it. Nothing tied to a blockchain is secure.
>>215674008maybe i'll have to rewatch but i thought it gets revealed le mastermind was using vera even before the show starts at some point>Jew esmail didn't do such a good job researching, but it's to be expected, it's more political focused that cyber.true. think he did a fine job on the psychological aspects as well, elliot is a supercrip, but at least he suffers because of it
>>215674104>I have a familyI am sorry to hear that, i wish them the best of luck when interacting with you.How does it not disgust you to speak in such a manner, why are you so emotional and unstable? what is this way of writting? culture warrior? me thinking he is me? at what point am i projecting myself into a crying druggie faggot?Am i speaking to a transvestite and i didn't even notice? oh god, that might explain it all.You seem to not understand at all what the tv show is about and what kind of feeling the author was trying to captivate, what type of audience will it speak to the most, what is the message that will entrance the audience? why type of people like this show so much?>It's fake, Elliot is an embodiment of a larp, a fantasy of a boring man martialized via a shizo personality splintering.>If you are actually aggrieved that the walking stereotype of a lonely hacker ends up being an artificial cliché of a lonely hacker,You seem to having trouble reading; the interpretation of lonely hacker is bland and based on interpretations of the public that is going to watch this.See, you are trying to find a meaning in the way the cinematographer created things thinking they are intentional in the story, what i am saying is, it's not intentional, it is a bland way of interpretation said character in how, say regular women would expect to see an edgy lonely hackerman with mental issues be.
Incels are so exhausting
>>215674442>at what point am i projecting myself into a crying druggie faggot?>speaks for several posts on behalf of incels who can't project himself on Elliot because he had sex in first episode so it's le poser loneliness >not projecting on him at all, hahaAs long as you yourself believe it.>culture warrior, me? Proceeds to vomit:>Le show is leftie commie slop porn of a vigilante hacker distributing from the wealth to the poor while dealing with current society norms and mental issues with a dash of faggots taking up the ass, strong independent women and men dressing up as women>the interpretation of lonely hacker is bland and based on interpretations of the public that is going to watch this.Because it's a fake concept. Finish the show. There are no vigilante hackers in the hoody hacking Amazon for the good of the people and redistributing bitcoin wealth.>How does it not disgust you to speak in such a mannerYou mean talking about shows and movies with them on occasion and not bringing up trannies and commies? They can hardly cope.>See, you are trying to find a meaning in the way the cinematographer created things thinking they are intentional in the story>Damn nigga, you are treating a peace of filmmaking as peace of filmmaking with characters arcs and shit? I go by my spergy inkling of tying trannies and commies to every narrative and selectively processing bits and pieces of characters to suit my autistic reading of them. >it's not intentionalExcept it is. I already posted two webms that wholeheartedly show Mastermind Elliot to be a daydream of waggie supercharged to have a more "exciting" life via his schizophrenia. >how, say regular women would expect to see an edgy lonely hackerman with mental issues be.Oh, you know, a mentally unstable waggie, raped by daddy and having nothing in his life but an office job and one tits he will never get. Now that should be relatable to you. Except you probably gun down niggers in your daydreams.
>>215671065If you actually watched the show (and understood it) everything would be explained.
>he is basically a brainwashed chinese asset>leaves his team abandoned to their fates, indirectly causing their deaths>caused a Second 9/11>destroyed the economy of the united states, TWICE>left the country vulnerable to anyone succeeding Whiterose back in mainland China>seduced and blackmailed an innocent woman for sensitive information pushing her to suicideChina canonically won.Hamburger man won.
It does take an out of nowhere pivot to Chyna being the bad guy around season 2 and 3. Esmail almost comes off as a closet neoconAn army of faceless, nameless yellow men running around NYC in leather biker suits and killing Americans with impunity is Breitbart-esque yellow panic. The worst part is that you wouldn't even need Chinese operatives doing wet work. Truth is, after something as big as the collapse of New York financing, hundreds of F Society copycats and even hard militias would pop up like weeds in the aftermath. All China would have to do is give them guns and money. Basically China giving America a taste of it's own Century of Humiliation suffered from 1839-1949.What we got was an infantile take that has as much nuance as Red Dawn. Esmail should've just stuck to 'billionaires bad' because he clearly has no idea how geopolitics, espionage, diplomacy, etc work. Shit, the PRC 'annexes the Congo' in the show... whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean. But then
>>215674930I rather him pivot to ridiculous character drama then clumsily try to make out of forgien interest threads something remotely grounded. The awkward one time jabs at American party interests picking the president is as far as he was willing to go.Nah, just keep the whole finish line as "he will never be a woman" and "he will never be happy."
I thought this was the biggest asspull of the entire show.>youre not the real Elliot, youre Mastermindalso the show wasted Tyrell, the best character. Fuck Sam Esmail, he's a hack who hasn't made anything good since
>>215674930Esmail altered the original plan/script for seasons 3 & 4 because Trump won. The only major plotlines we can confirm are>Tyrell becomes CEO>Price does not die>Cysco gets more development>Angela and Elliot romanceLast plot point got fucked cause of irl breakup of actorsAlso Esmail is tight with the Obama's, Obama really wanted to do the whole "Pivot to Asia" but got attacked for wanting to leave the Middle East.
>>215674442Nigga, the other guy is being as coherent as possible and he's right. You just being incredibly obtuse. Mr. Robot is fundamentally about mental illnesses created by personal insecurity, healing from that and ultimately accepting reality. It's as clear as it gets. Hell, there's even a schizo tranny in the show who is the antithesis of Elliott and "she" kills himself in the end because he wants to continue living in his power fantasy. Elliott overcomes his illness / power fantasy and accepts who he is. That's what the show is all about, Elliott finding his place. The political power plays and hacker shit is just a backdrop for everything and a red herring created by Elliott himself. It just happens to also be real for the most part except for Whiterose's psychosis.Mr. Robot is actually one of the few slowburn series where everything is explained in the end. It's also ironic that you're so hung up on Elliot's hackerman persona because that's exactly what the show wants you to forget. What do you think>goodbye friendat the end means?
>>215675219>everything is explained in the endwhat did WR show Angela?
>>215674187It was when Silkroad was around which is the point of the post you fucking retard.
>show is called mr. robot>has sex in the first episode