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>rapes random lady on an elevator and steals her glasses two second after he becomes free
>tries to rape his own daughter 5 minutes after meeting her
>physically and emotionally abuses her until she falls in love with him
>finds out she’s his daughter
>keeps fucking her anyway
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>my mentally ill sister killed herself because we couldnt stop fucking in very public places
>I'm going to blame a random guy for it and ruin his life, heh
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>>215671016
I just realised how much this guy looks like shohei ohtani
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>>215671016
He was a cuck
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>he's the main character why isn't he a hero
20+ years and nobody understands Oldboy, including Spike Lee.
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>>215671149
Nobody said he’s the hero. There are no heroes in this film. Everyone is a retard.
That being said, he made the right choice. His daughter deserves love too. And so do beasts.
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>>215671149
FATHA? *blam*
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>she was 3 when he got kidnapped
>age of consent in Korea was 20
>he fucked her when she was 18
OFFICER I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT A CRIME
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>>215670950
she's friggin' cute though
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>>215671477
I like them unique looking Asians. Now they all go to the same plastic surgeon.
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>>215670950
>rapes random lady on an elevator and steals her glasses two second after he becomes free
Did I watch a different cut?
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>>215670950
> after he becomes free
You have to understand that while he was in the can he had to compromise and jerk off into a tissue.
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>>215671016
It's so easy to simply not fuck your sister
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>>215671514
You didn’t notice he’s wearing her glasses when he leaves the building?
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>>215670950
>rapes random lady on an elevator
Not really, he's just so fucked up that seeing a woman makes him spooge
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>>215671539
When did the rape happen
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>>215671542
>not really
Yes really. See glasses.
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>>215671553
OFF SCREEN
holy fuck /tv/ is so retarded sometimes I swear. You guys can’t infer shit. You need it spelled out for you. No wonder you niggers spam cape shit day in day out.
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>>215670950
>>215671016
Part of the film's discussion is "how do you move on after a life ruining event happens?"
Going back to normal was never going to be an option.

For the villain, he dedicates himself to revenge, Greek tragedy style, then kills himself.
For the lead, he basically tries to "erase" the event by forgetting.

Either way theyre fucked. Instant suicide would probably be on the cards for most people having this happen to them.
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>>215670950
The most fucked up part about the sex scene isn't just rewatching it and knowing it's incest, but how she talks to him
"It hurts, but I'll bear it for you. I'll do a good job!"
Even before the reveal she has this weird daughter complex with him
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>>215671609
At least he’s still thought to be dead. Nobody knows he still lives. Shame about the tongue though.
>>215671633
That made him cum faster too. He’s sick in the head just like Evergreen. “Even though I am no better than a beast, don’t I too have the right to live?”

Unlike evergreen, it’s difficult for him to accept how fucked in the head he is.
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>>215671556
Not really. What is inferred is that he badly wanted to rape her but stole her glasses instead as a way to relieve tension.
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>>215671664
I think thats the point of the opening scene and flashbacks, showing he was no saint before the whole mindfuck that happened to him
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>>215671818
Thank you for restoring my faith in /tv/'s media literacy champ
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>>215670950
You missed the point by idolising him anon
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>>215671818
Kill yourself
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why do japs and koreans love cuckolding stories so much
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>>215671921
>brainlet melty as he discovers he was wrong all along
many such cases
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>>215672015
Lmao. He literally tries to rape the next female he meets in two seconds
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>>215672024
yeah, she's way younger and cuter plus she doesn't wear glasses, so he finally cracks
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>>215672043
Oh true. Thanks for making me see the error of my ways.
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>>215671978
This wasn't a cuckold story retard. It was incest
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>>215672140
No he’s right. Evergreen is a cuck. He listens to sound of them fucking on repeat. Hears it live in real time via the bug and even goes to visit them after their copulation. Another illiterate tv dum fuck
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>>215672209
He was in love with his dead sister, not the daughter the main character was fucking you retarded nigger.
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>>215672574
Kill yourself
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>>215672024
Because he was under post hypnotic suggestion

Park says as much on the dvd commentary.

Same reason she so easily forgives him in the next scene
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>>215671537
yeah? if it's so easy why don't you stop
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>>215671818
did people really not get this?
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>>215672774
Wrong. The hypnotic suggestion doesn’t affect love. The love was natural.
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>>215672810
Park literally says this on the commentary

He says the only reason why she gave him a pass right after was because she was under hypnosis
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People who speak Korean have said she says “that guy grabbed my ass” in the background to the security guard

So sexual assault but just ass grabbing not rape
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>>215672828
I call bullshit because the film says otherwise but I’ll go listen to the commentary just in case.
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>>215672866
Has nothing to do with them falling in love,just her reaction to the attempted rape

Park mentions people said it was misogynistic that she’d react like that right after an attempted rape and his defense to that was that she wasn’t in the right state of mind.
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>>215672942
Sounds like a bullshit defense for something he didn’t perceive as a problem. I read where the films treatment of women was panned in the west. I appreciated Oldboy long before the mainstream media found it. You can’t apply 90s Korean communist culture to America’s modern societal values.
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>>215671537
Alabama disagrees.
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>>215672723
Learn what terms mean before using them you zoomer buzzword repeating fuck
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>>215671664
>AAAAAGH I GET TO HAVE SEX WITH A QT ASIAN WIFE WHO LOVES ME MORE THAN ANYTHING IN THE WORLD AND GIVES ME AMAZING SEX ALL THE TIME AAAAAHH TRULY HELL I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANE
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>>215673224
That’s his daughter bro. His little girl.
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>>215670950
What movies is this
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>>215673533
Sympathy for daughter pussy
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>>215673533
Oldboy. Very good movie, but probably less so if you've had all the twists spoiled by going into a thread like this.
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>>215673566
Not really. The film js infinitely reachable imo
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>>215673533
overrated korean fetish slop
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>>215673533
Watch the superior Spike Lee Josh Brolin american remake
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>>215673635
Oldboy is the only Korean film that isn’t overrated
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>>215673673
It's overrated inside it's own thematic trilogy. Sympathy for Mr. Vengeace is better.
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>>215674053
Sympathy is overrated too.
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>>215674175
Nah.
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>>215670950
why didnt they just follow the manga?
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>>215674271
Because it's worse.
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>>215674290
not going to deny that the movie ending is somehow better than the manga ending
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>>215674271
Manga is gay and for children
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Edgy nonsense. I'm mostly surprised that this movie is so mainstream.
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>>215674734
Reddit ruins everything.
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>>215674734
Stick to marvel, kid.
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Worst mistranslation in history all the way down to the dvd

All translations say “I love you, Oh Dae Su”

She actually says “I love you, ahjussi (mister, or old man)
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>>215671016
>a random guy silently cried when I sang a sad song in high school
>better dedicate the next 20 years of my life to plotting his downfall
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>>215670950
He just like me fr fr
Also,
>rapes random lady on an elevator and steals her glasses two second after he becomes free
Didn't happen in the film (it's implied he felt her up like with suicidal roof guy)
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>>215670950
she pretty much admits that it was her fault for inviting him home
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>>215671539
Wait a minute, is there an extended cut or something, I don't remember anything like this
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>>215675692
There’s only one cut



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