After Enterprise

>>215671070
When Janeway was a block of wood, the ship was a dull gray box, the characters were unfit to be on a starship, the cast were a bunch of stiff dorks that had no chemistry together, and the writers wrote the show like being on a starship would be a sterile corporate office job. All of Star Trek died in the first episode of Voyager, and in case there was any question, Enterprise beat the desiccated corpse to a pulp in the coffin.

I watched the series premiere of Discovery on NBC and gave up on the second commercial break.

i saw TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9 and VOY twice. I tried all the other shows and i dropped them quickly because they were shit.

>>215671070
TOS

>>215671070
Multiple times over the years. Starting with TNG, There are two non-canon episodes: The Outcast and Sub Rosa. Then, Deep Space Nine ceases to be canon sometime around when Sisko shaves his head and grows a goatee. But really, the whole series can be disregarded since it was Ira Behr’s middle finger to Roddenberry. Voyager is great, if you get rid of the woman captain. Enterprise was just a Riker Holodeck program. Data died in Nemesis. Then there was no more Star Trek down to this day.

>>215671070
After VOY. Fuck prequels and reboots.
Then finally with PIC we had to watch a lot of shit before getting the TNG reunion we wanted; and even then it was somewhat 'damaged'.

>>215671070
After watching the 2nd JJ Abrams movie.

>>215671070
When STD season 2 led up to a finale that was possibly the worst scripted television I've ever seen - I gave it too many chances

when reddit and tumblr started writing, so around 2017
i was willing to put up with the jewjew movies although i hate them even more now

>>215671070
After the first two or three episodes of Star Trek Picard, whatever episode it is where they pull out Icheb from Voyager's eye

Died somewhere around the 1st or 2nd season of ent. They were just stealing stories from previous shows and rehashing them. I thought discovery season 1 ( apart from the poor finale) was ok. Second season with pike good and then it fell off a cliff. Snw was ok first 2 seconds this last season was a clunker. Pi ard season1 and 2 nearly killed to for me. Picard season 3 gave me all the feels l had as a lad growing up watching this series and honestly I felt it the best thing for the last 25 years.
I don't hold any hope for academy I feel a hate watch already coming on. They are really heading into long hiatus territory. I'm getting the same fatigue as I got watching ent and and gave up to watch star gate instead.
It's funny that everyone I see a star trek posts it's always from the older series and not the newer

>>215673738
grow up and stop being a cuck, prickard S3 was just as dogshit as everything else is

>>215671081
fpbp

>>215671146
They could have saved the show, easily. All they had to do was kill off a character. Was supposed to be Kim I think until he pressured them not because he was an Asian on the cover of some magazine, but really it should have been Torres, dying in the line of Starfleet/Federation principles.
This would have pissed of Chakotay. And eventually he'd go rogue and get his own ship/crew of maquis and Voyager and him would have various run ins with each other as they both race eachother to the Alpha quadrant with a bunch of sexual tension. Him hooking up with Seven was bullshit and his character was a waste of space most of the series.
/rant

>>215673513
I know it's cliche to call things "reddit" but the dialogue in nutrek can only be described as snarky reddit-ness, it's awful, it plagues all modern media, especially streamslop. I can't bear it.

>>215674078
I've heard the thing about Garret Wang being on the chopping block is an urban legend. They were always going to write Kes out because of the actress' problems with drugs and mental health. They deliberately spread the rumour about Kim's potential death to cover that up, Wang was aware of this and went along with it.

>>215671070
During Enterprise and after Nemesis's release. The prequel setting bored me. It's a decent enough show, but after TNG, DS9 and VOY, trying to go somewhere else killed the momentum for me. I'd have preferred a series set after VOY. Nemesis just also showed they had no clue how to move the series forward, which was why it was full of tropes and lazy.

>>215674485
This has only come out recently but the cast and crew have stated this is what really happened. Jennifer Lien was always going to be booted - she kept showing up on set drunk and high on crack, which was unacceptable. The drama with Garrett Wang was a fabrication (although he himself was dissatisfied with where his character Harry Kim was going)

>>215672249
I still can believe they used the shit from PIC s1&2 in a good way for the 3rd season. The writers of PIC3 are the one we need to save Trek.
They learned their lesson after the shitty 2 earlier season instead of doubling down on the shit people didn't like out of spite, like the other NuTrek shows did. They also introduced new characters that were interesting.

>>215674910
Oh fuck off. All of these people need to be hanged.

>>215674910
Jack is a literal Gary Stu.
Shaw is obnoxiously reddit, he's just Rick, that's not how Starfleet captains should act.
7 of 9 becoming captain of the Enterprise is like out of some 12 year olds bad fanfic.
La Forge's admittedly cute daughters are nepo babies.

>>215671070
Enterprise.

Lower decks has a Reddit aura surrounding it but if you get past that it’s got some great episodes. Maybe I’m just desperate for good new trek, all live action trek since enterprise has been awful. That’s 20 years of bad trek

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>>215674087
It's beyond tiresome, I always say: "if the characters aren't invested in what's happening, how can I be?" I wonder who it even appeals to; I mean, even if you want to write something that's lighthearted and silly, like the Adam West Batman show, you still have to write the dialogue with sincerity, the humour comes from characters taking an absurd situation seriously.

I saw this "Lost in Space" episode recently where the crew are being "menaced" by an army of robots, portrayed by dozens of official "Lost in Space" robot toys. What makes it fun is the way the actors are totally deadpan: Major West sees a phlanx of robots rolling towards the ship, wiggling their little arms uselessly and he shouts: "John! They're moving up on us!" like he's in a war movie. If he said "ermmm, yeah, that's a thing" it wouldn't have been funny at all.

>>215671597
This is almost what I think.
But I ask any of you, why do you need more Trek than these below?
>TOS
>TAS
>TOS films
>TNG
>DS9
>TNG films
>Voyager

>>215671070
walking out the theater after first contact

>>215675233
too much
no tas
no TNG films
no voyager

>>215675333
TAS would be perfect TOS episodes if AI could flesh them out to be 45 minutes instead of 22 because the stories are clearly TOS stories, but sped up for kid brains.

>no TNG films
I can see the hatred for Nemesis, but the others? Nemesis doesn't even bother me. Why should it?

>no voyager
Oh come on! Captain Photon episodes are based. Janeway putting the abomination to death-based.
The problem with Voyager is Kes and lots of bad episodes.

>>215675408
the best TNG film is First Contact, which sucks as Star Trek and is not good enough action schlock to actually seek it out. Nemesis is terrible. The others are basically not worth mentioning and wouldn't even be good two-parters.

>>215675627
Insurrection is a damn fine two-part episode, anon.

>>215671070
Picard season 2 or Discovery. So basically everything in the current era.

>>215671070
Never, they're going to find my dead body watching reruns of, say, DS9.

>>215675128
I tried watching that but it's not even funny. It's just stupid and annoying. Tailor made for the Funko Pop crowd.

>>215671070
Discovery Season 3. I just had enough of feeling miserable after watching Star Trek. So now I consider everything Post-Enteprise as just not existing.

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>>215675627
>>215675636
All Good Things
Chain of Command
Unification
Redemption
Best of Both Worlds
Birthright
Encounter at Farpoint
>First Contact
Gambit
Descent
>Generations
Times Arrow
>Insurrection
>Nemesis

>>215675128
>Lower decks has a Reddit aura surrounding it but if you get past that it’s got some great episodes.
Eh, it's okay. I don't think it's particularly funny. Made me chuckle a couple times, nothing more. I do appreaciate that they actually made an effort to draw cute, appealing characters.

>>215674751
I don't know who it was but Wang absolutely pissed off somebody off from high up. In the pilot fucking episode Harry talks about wearing an eye mask to bed cause it reminds him of his time in the womb. The character got shit from the fucking get go and not only did Kim never get a promotion, Wang also never got permission to direct an episode.

>>215674078
>Him hooking up with Seven was bullshit
Course it was, Beltran only asked for it hoping the producers would finally fire him but just like his constant demands for more money, they granted it.

Star Trek ended with What You Leave Behind
Star Wars ended with X Wing Alliance

>>215674087
Whedon. The shame was it worked fine back in Firefly and Buffy. Avengers quipping everywhere infected the whole media world.

STD&picard killed it for me.
>but what about the JJ verse movies
They where not canon, different timeline.
But STD&picard where part of the main timeline and they shit all over it.

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watched TNG, liked it
tried Voyager, hated it and gave up after few episodes
watched DS9, loved it
went back to Voyager, stayed just long enough to get 7 of 9, and with her doctor it became ok
watched Orville. it mostly sucked - first series humor was too idiotic and then I hated the bad guys, but somewhat watchable
never had ang desire to watch any other trek, nothing seems appealing

during enterprise

Nothing after enterprise is Star Trek

>>215678387
>Didn't watch TOS
You did not watch Star Trek.

>>215678872
I'm so ok with that

I gave up with Enterprise but weirdly I found that show very compelling. I hated it but it was good. It's such a weird experience.

Anything made after that is trash.

The third JJ verse movie is a fun lark though.

I tried watching Discovery, but it was probably the worst thing I've ever seen. Tried Picard again and once again it was probably the worst thing I had ever seen.

>>215678306
I think it’s the consensus that Wang was shitty to work with, but that’s not the same as showing up to work high and drunk

>>215671070
Star Trek Picard, when the Season 2 episode 3

I did watch season 3 of Picard, but it wasn't "good" except as a glimpse of the Enterprise-D for a few minutes, and some slightly more realistic dialogue (and not cocaine-powered "romantasy" purple prose which is clearly all that the writers read)
I mean, Picard and Beverly bickering like an old divorced couple was interesting, but when the plot revolves around a pair of 90-somethings having had a soap-opera tier hidden+unplanned pregnancy of a 40-year old man 20 years ago, that's not good writing

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>>215671070
I never did completely
I watched the first ep of Discovery and then never watched it again but I did watch Picard and (mostly) liked it
I didn't watch the animated thing and I dont remember what it was called either
I've been watching SNW but not any of the goofier episodes
based on what i've seen about it I won't be watching SF Academy at all
i'll still watch Trek but I'm much more selective about it

>>215671081
This. A few episodes into ENT and I knew it was over

>>215675233
I just miss it. I miss the comfy dull atmosphere, the writing that felt like it was written by people with an IQ over 95, the plots that questioned your morals, the cast that weren’t ugly as all fuck

>>215671070
I don't know if people remember, but Discovery inexplicably split the first season up with a 2 month break after episode 9. I had kept up with it out of misguided franchise loyalty until then and then my total lack of interest bore fruit in those 2 months and I forgot about it.

>>215671070
Voyager was great, fuck all of you. Also, the new Voyager game has a free demo and it’s actually pretty good. I recommend it if you are nearly dead from modern Trekslop, it actually feels competently written

>>215679309
And he made that clear by the time of the fucking pilot episode?

>>215671070
in the first couple minutes of the first ep of std

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>>215679894
Where did I say that? He was clearly written as a wet-behind the ears ensign on his first assignment, you taking personal offence to that is just you projecting some insecurities of your own or something

>>215679978
Giving him a line about being reminded of the mother's womb is nothing short of pissing all over him and it's not like his character gets any better either.

>>215680035
It’s literally them equating him to a new born babe, y’know like an ensign on his first assignment. Once again I’m not sure why you take personal offence to this

>>215680078
It's a humiliating thing to say and if you combine that with scenes like him being fake castrated by that fear clown and his posse, it paints a pretty clear picture of what the writers thought of him. On top you add the eternal ensign and Wang getting cucked out of getting even a single directing opportunity.

>>215680174
I’m no expert but it seems like they gave directing opportunities to people who demonstrated talent or had long experience in tv and film. Garrett was a piss poor actor and had no such experience. What are you, some sort of commie?

>>215680232
No he's r/asianmasculinity

>>215680232
ST has had a long tradition of letting lead actors take the directors seat for an episode or two, Frakes took to it especially but pretty much everyone from the main series got a shit at it.
Except Wang

>>215680315
the girl that played the klingon roastie has been pretty much a full time tv director since voyager

>>215671070
On and off really. Biggest one was halfway through Voyager when it was originally being aired. I haven't even seen Enterprise. Have watched some of NuTrek but I fucking hated most of it bar some episodes of STD S1, SNW and Picard S3.

>>215680315
Frakes was a decent actor and had broad experience from years on TNG and soaps. Wang was a charisma vacuum on par with Beltran and had even less experience as an actor

>>215671184
Why lie? The first episode of Star Trek: Discovery didn't premiere on NBC.

>>215683000
It did a year later

The morality in this show is absolutely batshit insane.

Discovery

When Picard started salsa dancing

>>215671070
Enterprise

>>215683178
May we see your evidence the first episode of Star Trek: Discovery was ever broadcast on NBC?

>>215683711
Correction - it wasn't NBC but rather CBS.
>The first series to be developed for the CBS All Access subscription platform, it began airing on 24 September 2017, with a preview broadcast of the premiere episode, "The Vulcan Hello", on the CBS network; the second episode being released on All Access on the same day.

for me its when picard didnt let wesley be executed for his crime.

>>215671081
>After Enterprise
fpbp. ENT was the birth of NuTrek whether people want to admit it or not. When they started playing that stupid Rod Stewart song I knew it was over.

>>215671070
The franchise ended in 2005 gramps
Move the fuck on loser

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This Fucking looks like Shit!

>>215679664
>>215685053
I was saying I was done with trek after ENT ended. I like Enterprise

>>215685242
They really dropped the ball on this. Where's all the windows?

>>215671070
September 9, 1966

>>215685242
Fellow 4chan posters and compadres...please tell me these pics are fucking fake. Fucking please...

what is the difference visually between the excelsior types, I cannot tell

I only watched TNG. TOS is boring.

>>215685053
>ent theme song
That would have been absolutely insane if it were decided upon by people who knew what the fuck they were doing. And that’s how we knew that Voyager sucking balls wasn’t a fluke. Roddenberry was the only executive who had any idea what the fuck the show was about & what made it work. Every other executive team since has been a disaster due entirely to fundamentally not understanding the show or the fans of it and deciding to change it all into something else they personally like instead of the thing that works and we like.

FFS the goddamn entirety of TOS & TNG are a blueprint for how to do it. We have a 1960s edition, we have a 1990s edition, and we even have DS9 which, while a departure, still exists and works perfectly fine in the universe the first two successful shows created. After that, Voyager should have been the 2000s version of the formula, and might have been had they not fucked up every aspect of its production. But what the geniuses should have done was said oh fuck it sucks, ok, we’ll try something different & fix it. Voyager makes it home in 2 seasons and it’s back to starfleet HQ for debriefing & then it’s new ships & new crews coming & going every week, with conflicts, expeditions, & politics in the fed & on earth. Anything. Instead the brilliant executives said, well that’s not working, let’s drag it out until it rots on the vine, and then say oh I guess people don’t like Star Trek shows at all, kill it off completely & then rebrand it into Marvel Star Wars. Idiots.

>>215675190
>>215675128
Lower decks laughed AT Star Trek and not WITH it. It mocked the entire premise.

>>215685053
>>215685368
the ent theme song is the main reason i never watched enterprise

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>>215685421
Worst theme song, best uniforms.

>>215685398
Also. Mike McMahan's a rapist.

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>Topic?
>Responsibilities of Command
>Dialogue?
>Absolutely Fucking Kino
>Vibes?
>Lowkey Chills

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>>215685242
I'm glad I'm into minis and not legos
I'll stick with the old art asylum ships thanks
nacelle is the only trek toy line anyone should be following

>>215686378
What's their Kira doll look like?

>>215686247
This scene absolutely slays on every level! It's pure Trek gold that hits you right in the feels! Here we have Captain Pike sitting down with a young James T. Kirk in what looks like the captain's quarters or a cozy lounge aboard the USS Enterprise. They're both rocking those iconic gold command uniforms! Pike with his captain's stripes gleaming on the sleeves, looking all seasoned and contemplative, while Kirk's got that youthful intensity, leaning in like he's absorbing every word. The lighting is soft and warm, with this retro-futuristic lamp glowing between them on a sleek side table, casting these subtle shadows that make the whole setup feel intimate and lived-in. There's a glass of what I assume is Saurian brandy or some synthale on the table, adding to that after-hours, off-duty relaxation. Pike's gesturing with his hand, probably dropping profound wisdom about the weight of the captain's chair, the isolation, the tough calls, the endless responsibility that comes with command. Kirk listens intently, hands clasped, like he's on the cusp of his legendary destiny.
Dude, this moment is chef's kiss perfection! It's the kind of deep-cut character development that Strange New Worlds excels at, bridging the legacy of The Original Series with modern storytelling flair. The dialogue is fire! It's like they bottled the essence of Trek's optimistic future while grounding it in real human connection. What gets me though, it's not some high-stakes phaser fight or warp core breach; It's just two captains vibing in a quiet moment, sipping drinks, sharing truths that resonate across the stars. There's this mellow, almost ASMR-level serenity to it, like you're eavesdropping on a late-night convo between old souls. It gives off those cozy, reflective hangs where time slows down, and you feel the vastness of space but also the warmth of camaraderie. This is the understated gem that reminds us why we love Trek.

>>215671070
Trek doesn't really exist post-TNG/DS9/VOY for me. I've heard ENT is okay and I'm sure it is, but I'm not interested.

>>215686428
thanks chat gpt

>>215686643
>I've heard ENT is okay and I'm sure it is
You heard wrong.

>>215686754
It's better then ok. It's actually great

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>>215686423
they haven't announced her yet but nog is in the second wave so they'll get to the rest of them eventually
they're encouraging the community to contact them about figures they want made
even though they never respond
but I am also reclusive and understand how scary replying to someone can be

>>215686643
This is me. I watched a few episodes of Enterprise, but It was enough for me to know I couldn't stand it. I felt they should've done the whole Titan thing with Riker being a captain.
Voyager was really lowbrow, but it was still watchable and added good lore to the universe. I haven't watched anything ST since. Anything new, that is.

>>215686892
no one says or thinks this

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>>215686754
You're just mad about the Trip convinces a space tranny to kill itself episode.

>>215686945
>empty pants leg tied at the knee
kek

>>215686980
Tripp is Fucking MAGA isn't he? Look at where he is Fucking from!

>>215687077
What the fuck!? Didn't he got his leg replaced!

DS9 watchalong bros, it's the lesbian ep

>>215671070
When Kes left. Simple

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>>215687077
for me, it's the chains that come with the worf figure
don't say anything though, I don't want nacelle to realize they're releasing a large black man with with chains as an accessory
the toy line is financed by an eccentric wealthy turboautist who is completely unconcerned with sales or what anyone thinks
it's beautiful

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>>215686953
I say this and think this

>wounded warriors
If I looked like a baked potato I would just kill myself

>>215671081
fpbp

>>215687158
He's obviously a fan of the one scene that Worf wore that uniform. It's a kino look for him but a non autist would put him in his Starfleet or Klingon clothes.

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>>215687298
this
don't even reply to me if you aren't a twenty foot tall greek god posting on 4chan from olympus surrounded by nymphs counting your (you)s

>>215687108
Yes and he only had one leg for less than half an episode.

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>>215687131
>it's a Dax ep
i sleep

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ENT is ok despite being terrible in so many ways it's an esoteric kind of feel ok

>>215686378
>t'Pol with the kung-fu grip
oh god can you imagine

>>215671070
discovery was woke shit...

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>>215687467
they'll get to those
they're doing a tos wave in classic uniforms
first they want to do stuff like a full naval uniform crew and ghost-fucker bev
geordi comes with a holodeck arch that'll be useful for the inevitable moriarty and sherlock data figures
it is a line of deep cuts and I'll keep shilling for them because it's the best love letter our community has gotten since the kotobukiya statues
the soulless suits running the franchise only care about numbers so I hope after multiple lines of nutrek merch have failed they'll notice that classic trek still sells strong and bring the franchise back into focus

>>215687562
I want her to kung-fu grip my heart

>>215685534
nice uniform but the original skirts were best

TOS has the only good Trek films.
DS9 is the only good Trek TV series.

I lost interest during Voyager. That show is fucking dismal and I'm surprised so many of you defend it.

>>215687512
Yeah but her and the Lenara chick are hot

>>215687712
DS9 is Star Stay not Star Trek. Voyager Trekked.

>>215687742
Kira is better

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>>215671081
yes

>>215674004
>>215674004
Listen faggot I enjoyed S3 Picard. Fuck you and your shitty Babylon 5 tastes. Fucking neckbeard homo geeks are the worst. You think because you watched a couple of episodes you think you know shit. FUCK YOU cunt and your pile of star trek fan fic

>>215687751
They frequently go to Cardassia, Qo'noS, and places beyond the wormhole. This idea that DS9 has no trekking is a myth.

>>215687742
Fun fact; Susanna Thompson was the Borg Queen on VOY
Alice Krige is still the best one but Thompson had an interesting spin on her

>>215687831
elaborate

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>215687818
Nigger I have watched Trek since I was a goddamn baby and that garbage they put on screen after 2009 is NOT real.

>>215687840
Susanna Thompson plays the Queen as a creepy stepmother instead of a horny creep like Alice Krige

>>215687825
>frequently
stop lying.

>>215685053
Enterprise is bad in an entirely different way than everything that came after it so you can't really lump it into NuTrek.

>>215687876
acceptable response
I'm promoting you to lieutenant
may god and /trek/ have mercy on your soul

>>215671146
voyager may have been worse then tng and tos, but it wasn't nearly as bad as your making it out to be. like yeah it had weird plotlines and shitty writing occasionally. But boring? tng had about 67 episodes that were about troi "sensing something was off" and "data wants to have emotions".

>>215687880
I'll admit we don't see much of Cardassia, but there's a long Klingon society arc that takes them away from the station.

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>>215687849
Mick Fleetwood's still my favorite guest star

>>215687914
Counterpoint: All 1966-2005 Star Trek is good, even the bad parts (although Enterprise really tests my limits sometimes)

>>215685421
Keep going, you'll hate it at first, then you'll begin to like it ironically, then you'll get stockholm syndrome and genuinely start to like it.
After that you will go "GOAN WHERE MUH HEART WILL TAKE ME!!!! " in the shower.
It was a last minute change. The original opening theme was a variant of what you hear over the end credits.
I also like the intro itself, with the history of space travel going from our history, to present, and then into the future until you get the NX-01, which is the starting point for the future history of starfleet and the federation.
But yes, the song was jarring as fuck, and I watched this show when it premiered and I thought it was a fucking joke.

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>>215687938
In a world where iggy fookin' pop had a guest appearance?

>>215671081
fippy bippy

>>215687983
he wasn't even the best Vorta in his episode.

>>215687914
TNG had better characters. Everyone on Voyager was bland or obnoxious. You had Janeway, who was like the middle-management women I worked with in my supermarket job, and Chakotay, whose only defining character traits were a face tattoo and some vaguely "native" heritage that no one could possibly care about. Then you had Neelix cunting around, shoving his loathsome and punchable face onto the screen at every opportunity. They were all awful.

>>215688037
i want to fugg tom paris and harry kim

>>215688070
It's good that you got something out of it, I suppose. But it wasn't for me.

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>>215688016
Demonstrably counterfactual.

>>215671070
Enterprise was so terrible I couldn't even finish the first season. It's been nothing but dumpster fire after dumpster fire ever since.

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See me driving down the street
I'm bored with looking good
I got both hands off the wheel
The cops are coming
I listen to the music with no fear
You can hear it too if you're sincere
'Cause I'm a punk rocker, yes, I am
Well, I'm a punk rocker, yes, I am
'Cause I'm a punk rocker, yes, I am
Well, I'm a punk rocker, yes, I am

>>215688180
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I really did hate this little Fucker.

>>215688138
the fact is that Keevan mogged him

>>215688205
calm down, lex

>>215671070
The very second I read the name "J.J. Abrams" attached to the Star Trek reboot

>>215688037
Eh, having obnoxious characters was kind of voyagers thing. like they had Paris who was an asshole, the doctor who was also and asshole, Bellana was a hothead and Seven of Nine was a cold unfeeling character for her first few seasons. the rest of the characters like Janeway, Chakotay tuvok kim etc were kind of on the opposite end by being more responsible and less irrational then their counterparts. Having obnoxious, irrational characters is also more interesting to watch.

>>215688146
I remember an episode in the first season of Enterprise where the doctor refused to cure a dying people of their disease, and his reason was that it would go against the principle of natural selection. That was a strange episode and not very Star Trek.

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>>215688180
>not odo and kira doing candy
https://youtu.be/6bLOjmY--TA?si=XLaK-YY3mDMh2wye

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>>215688254
monday night we're in a star trek thread listening to iggy pop while al bundy shakes his ass
yep

star trek

>>215671070
When they killed off Lon Suder, and once again when Janeway had Tuvix shot into space out of the airlock.

>>215688037
Janeway mommy
Chakotay sucks
B'Elanna mommy
Paris is cool
Doctor is kino
7 of 9 mommy
Neelix is okay
Tuvok is kino
Kes sucks
Harry Kim sucks

>>215688398
I'm seeing a lot of "mommy" in your list. Is it just a fetish show for you? Do you wear a diaper when you watch it?

>>215688205
I hated him at first. But he grew on me with the ep where Nog goes to live with him in the holosuite.

>>215675408
The Captain Photon eps were "meh" at best, Tuvix did nothing wrong, and Kes (and, by extension, her actress) was done dirty.

>>215688507
>Nog

That name was always funny if you were British or Australian.

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I love DS9
Should I watch Voyager? Something about picrel is telling me Im going to hate it. After how great Sisko was I dont think he could be matched.

>>215688541
Ive always wondered if they aired DS9 in the UK since nog is a slur there lol

>>215688570
Yeah it was on TV at 6pm as a fun family show. We all just laughed privately about Nog's name.

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>>215688554
>tfw evil alt-history janeway is exactly the same as regular janeway except she wears gloves
Mulgrew is one of the better parts of the show.
If you've watched TNG and DS9 a million times already, and want more star trek, that's what voyager is, more trek. Most of it isn't very good, but its not terrible either, and there are plenty of solid episodes sprinkled through. I'd rank Counterpoint as one of the best episodes of trek.

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>>215688606
I get a chuckle out of this guy's name- Thot Pra(w)n

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw3SV6U_p0Q&t=194s

This is the greatest cross over of all time.

>>215688700
kek thats awesome

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>>215688327
Of course I've had it in the ear before.

>>215685053
this just isnt true. enterprise still has almost identical vibes as 90s trek. it still feels like startrek, even if it isn't particularly good.


nutrek has a completely different feel to it

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The House of Quark is on Pluto right now, bros.

>>215688700
>first thing is noisy nosey
Oh dis gon b gud

>>215671070
I just got into it last year. Once I'm done with the original series' movies, I'm going to start Voyager and then Enterprise after that. I have not heard good things about Discovery, but I will watch some of it just to see for myself if it's as bad as I've been told.

>>215680315
He didnt take the fucking Star Trek Direcing course.

Anon making the slopera, you crack me up. Please post a playlist when you're done.

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i didnt really, i get the urge to watch every now and then and just put my shuffle on. its fun to land on favorites. i watched Brothers again yesterday and i am willing to say it's one of my favorites, despite being relatively low on the happening scale. i love data taking over the ship and i love his conversations with lore and often-wrong soong, can't even tell his boys apart~

data is so cool.

>>215688398
Janeway mommy
Chakotay - heya hoya heya hoya
B'Elanna really sucks
Paris good and has actual character development
Doctor is kino and has char development
7 of 9 mommy w char development
Neelix is the fucking worst
Tuvok is kino
Kes awful. The anon who lived down the street from her story is kino though.
Harry Kimcel couldn’t even score with either Delaney sister. sucks except for the saving voyager back in time episode

>>215671081
After going through Voyager, there's a few good episodes but what a fucking slog.

>>215671070
When I saw an interview with Patrick Stewart where he opined that Starfleet wasn't necessarily the good guys, and how the Romulan refugees tied into real-world mass migration, and how unhappy he was that Britain wasn't ethnically cleansing itself faster. 'It's fucked,' he burst out tearfully. It shocked me. Holy shit, this guy with the Shakespearean gravitas who gave us all this good kino is actually just another hysterical libtard who thinks with his feels like a teenage girl, and fuck me if I want to watch anything he's in charge of.

Then there was the glimpse of the Klingons from a different series where they all looked like fucking orcs from the LotR. Distanced myself instantly from that shit too. Never seen any of it, don't want to.

>>215690302
I don’t really care about the politics, but he’s fucking unbearable as a guest on late night shows. It like hurts me to be reminded captain picard is actually this midwit theatre fag.

>>215690266
>char
Kill yourself

>>215690360
you first tranny

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>>215690302
Why would the Romulans need to be taken in by the Federation anyway? Do they not have an empire full of habitable planets anymore? And why didn't they start evacuating Romulus until it was too late? If your star is going to explode you should know about it well in advance. Goddamn, the writing in nuTrek is awful

>>215690408
JJ Abrams ruined everything.

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>>215685421
>the ent theme song is the main reason i never watched enterprise
Same desu. I was turned off instantly when it first aired on upn. I finally gave it a chance a few years ago and it was worth it. I still dislike the theme song tho.

>>215685242
Almost looks more like the Vengeance

>>215671081
Enterprise is amazing. Star Trek sucked starting from JJ Abrams

i used to think during ENT even though i watched the show to the end

i came back for nutrek and quickly gave up, it was insufferable