Plemmons deserves Best Actor. I know /tv/ is mostly neets and brown capeshitters who can't/won't go to the cinema, but this may be the best film since The Master with a performance on the level of Joaquin in Plemmons. Emma Stone was of course as solid as always but Plemmons brings a decade-besr performance.
>>215675533No torrent yet retard fuck off
>>215675533>but this may be the best film since The Master with a performance on the level of Joaquin in PlemmonsThis is just simply false. The movie is good, but your statement is hyperbolic. This movie isn't even deep. It's surface level "humans bad". It's just told in a compelling way. The "initial twist" is obvious as the movie wouldn't exist without such a twist. The "second twist" is the only interesting part of the movie.
I'll watch for Stavros and if there's any hot shots of Emma Stone bending over with a bald head. Gonna need to be in vlc media player though for me to screenshot and make webms.
>>215675808they went overboard with her eyes, its 90% shots of her doing bug eyes, very cute.
>>215675533I’ve stalked quite a few women in my day and let me tell you that the look she is giving in that pic tells me all I need to know. That’s the kinda bitch that will stand there arms crossed berating you after catching you in the bushes jerking off to her. She’d let you finish and then give you a head start before calling the cops.
>>215675808Emma has a lot of a scalp warts as a warning.
>>215675533>Another role where Plemmons does another variation of his Breaking Bad roleI fucking hate it when people gush about someone who does the same thing over and over. Its like factory work.....you can get hired for the most complex job at a factory, but when you do the same tasks over and over and over, you look like you have some amazing skill to people.
>>215675964It's also the same performance as his Black Mirror role. I don't get why the OP is creaming his pants over this.
>>215675945>no nudity>scalp wartsyea, thats a pass
>>215675584
Why didn't Teddy file an OSHA complaint on his black coworker's behalf? You don't have to be the principally affected to file an OSHA complaint.
>>215675584Point proven>>215675760Retard alert if that's all you got out of it
i fucking loved the Basket Case scene that was the most instant classic thing i've seen in a new film in so long
It was fucking trash ugly hoe didn't get nude like poor things stupid alien cunt
>>215675533If you are so intelectual then why are you too lazy to read substitutes? The film is a remake and therefore not an original idea and cant be intelectual
>>215676008trying to keep a low profile maybe, it would put motivation for the kidnapping on the records
>>215675992>popping the atmosphere kills all humans but doesn't kill all remaining lifeformsMAJOR PLOTHOLE>>215676013Oh, really? The message wasn't humans bad? Hmmm then why did the Andromedan Emperor give a whole "humans bad" monologue at the film's climax? And why did the Andromedans end the "human experiment" if the message wasn't "humans bad"? Just asking. I'd love to hear your response and hear you expound on what this movie is about. This is a discussion thread after all. Maybe share your thoughts.
>>215675992Seriously? lol this looks like some 70s Dr. Who shit.The ending sounded like the only reason for me to see this, now it isnt lol.
>>215676029You're a drone
>>215676062None of the Andromedans are white men. All are females or POCs. Very subtle.
>>215676008Because literally thats kind of the whole point of his character.He doesn't make any changes in his immediate reality and instead imagines everything is out of his and by extension, her, control
>>215676062It's the opening shot of the movie
How tf is Stavros getting into a movie like this. Because he's Greek?
>>215676029That and the dinner scene but really all the interrogation scenes were top-tier and reminded me of the processing scene in The Master which is why I made the comparison in the OP.
was anyone else waiting for the alien reveal to be like, emma stone bursting into CGI tentacles or some Cosmatos-style creature? I was a little bummed they just looked human. I know there's in-universe lore as to why lol but it's still lame
>>215675584>Pardon me, I ordered a Rooty Tooty Fresh and Frooty?
Did the fat cop molest plemons
>>215675964It really isn't anything like Todd unless you consider being socially maladjusted on a very broad level to be the same exact thing. There are a lot of significant differences that go deeper.
>>215676168Sounds like a fucking SNL skit. Fuck that shit.
>>215676163That was my interpretation of his casting
>>215676183Almost certainly
>>215675945>scalp wartsthat's kinda hot since it's a pretty girl like her
Too many people are looking deep into the movie like it's even trying to be preachy when it's just a really good comedy-thriller with top-tier dialogue. All the interviews support this idk I just thought it was a great movie that reminded me of 90s flicks
>>215675533>no nudityLiterally what is the point of this gay film even existing?
>>215676268https://youtu.be/7hP-owOcjok?t=843s14:03
>>215675808Maybe it’s because im a cumboy but stav was such a miscast it’s distracting.
>>215676194I mean I haven't seen breaking bad in at least 10 years but I remember his performance in there being quiet and brooding and this character was a million miles away from that. He completely disappeared into this character and was unrecognizable.
>>215676084It's not as simplistic as that. It was the most even-handed film this year, far more than one battle after another and the second half of Eddington.
>>215676013>Retard alert if that's all you got out of itNTA, but many are walking away from it with that intepretation. I want to agree with your interpretation over the other guy's interpretation, but I keep on going back and forth.Even though conspiracy theorists have many issues, they are essentially correct in their extreme distrust of institutions that normies just ignore.Yet, I get the feeling that the filmmakers are unwilling to extend Teddy that credit. I don't think it is a mistake the aliens are all non white male. The libleft interpretation would be that humanity is evil and deserve it. And I can't help but think that is how the filmmakers intended it.
is there a fisheye lens on the camera for this movie
So the alien ending was just a hallucination from her head injury after the explosion right? Teddy was TOO correct about everything so she’s just dreaming all the information he told her about aliens throughout the movie and seeing his spaceship model and shit. The odds of her being an alien Empress AND the person in his mind responsible for his mothers condition is to insane. But his bomb going off because “the closet was too warm” is weird. I can’t remember if she actually presses the button at the end of her countdown and if it happens instantly. The screen distortion around the shotgun before the suicide was weird too, was that implying she was using some sort of alien mind tricks? It happens AFTER she washes all the antihistamines off her body.
>>215675533Ismthis sequel to 'They Live'?
>>215675533you gotta watch more movies man. it's a solid flick, nothing to rave about. jesse was good, but not that good. I think he was better in kinds of kindness. it's a weak year so he has a good chance. stone doesn't have a chance.
>>215676535I think she's just an alien man lol she played the "How many of them were Andromedons?" confrontation too straight, there was no reason for her not to just escape as soon as Teddy left for the antifreeze>>215676497Nope it's shot way more traditionally than most of Yorgos' shit
>>215676166I really liked the aspect of corpo speak business negotions versus schizo “delusions” between the two characters
>>215676535>The screen distortion around the shotgun before the suicide was weird too, was that implying she was using some sort of alien mind tricks?I kinda thought so too, although I think that it doesn't fully work. It is just enough to bring out an internal crisis he was already having and causes him to kill himself.
>>215676588Yeah that part stuck out to me too. But it kinda sounds like she’s calling him out as a psychopath serial killer. I feel the the 5:30 bit might be a clue. Would it be dark out by time she’s in an ambulance? Or is it dark out to fit the lunar eclipse narrative teddy put in her head? If she’s an alien then she made up her mind to destroy humans sometime in the basement. If she’s human she talked teddy into coming out in broad daylight to a place that would be swarming with cops in an instant when her vallet finds Donny’s body and she’s buying time with the 58digit code bit. She was either trying to get to the door during the countdown or purposefully getting behind the pillar knowing the bomb would go off. I’m problebly overthinking all this
>>215676268Exactly dude. If you've seen the original, it's the same thing - just a good comedy thriller. Bugonia gets its humor from dialogue, STGP is wacky. Both are fun and not preachy but we live in a politicized world with outrage culture. People who haven't even seen the movie will get mad. Same thing happened with OBAA.
>>215676588Let's not mention her casually taking 300V for an extended period of time. That's totally normal.
>>215676056Holy fuck this has been explained in every thread, it’s not just “humanity bad”. The andromedans represent ultra high status elites that are so detached from reality that they might as well be aliens. Emma stone calls plemmons a “sick ape” because she’s operating from a place of perceived superiority both because she’s a mega rich ceo and a literal alien. There are critiques on humanity about climate change (the bees) but Emma stone is so clearly evil from that speech onward that’s it’s pretty cut and dry. Plemmons is a traumatized man pushed past his breaking point, Emma goes from greedy ceo bitch to genocidal alien overlord. The movie is saying we’re flawed but they’re arrogant and evil
>>215676056Also I don’t think that’s her literally popping the atmosphere, I saw it as non-literal/alien tech. Maybe they used nanobots or some shit, doesn’t matter
>>215676805anon they've been showing the flat earth throughout the moviealso first rule of fun: if it's fun then it's real
>>215676168I felt that way at first desu, same with their puffy sweaters, I found it a bit silly after such a dark movie. Eventually they both grew on me on rewatch. I actually like the idea that we’re made in their image, it’s creepier in a more existential way imo
>>215676425But arguably the villain of the film is a female CEO who knows how to use her position as a weapon. Again, I didn't read it so sympathetic of that character and unlike another anons I will just say, she becomes irredeemable at one point in the movie and I think that saves it from being one-sided propaganda.
looks stupid
>>215676535Why is no one using spoiler tags, jc
>>215675533Saw STGP 20 years ago. No need
>>215676096Korean og isn't about personal agency, but highlighting the limits of agency in a power dynamic
>>215676580I've seen most of the major releases of the year. What are your top contenders for this year.
>>215676893Way more kino with actual twists and turns. Once again the gooks do it better
>>215676706It definitely plays with you because right before she goes into that long speech, she found Teddy's secret room...which could have allowed her to play into his own beliefs that he never shared outside of the notebook and he may not have been aware she had access...I tend to think , the ending is an honest one.
>>215675533I will say that, despite some issues I have with the film, Plemmons gives an amazing performance , and is currently the best performance of the year for me.
>>215676720That’s not necessarily fatal. It’s more about the amperage. She would be a little crispy though around the contact points.T electrician
>>215676920Yeah, this new one just looks soulless.
>>215676839I’m with you on the flat earth, I’m just saying I don’t think that’s actually her popping the atmosphere. They intentionally put animals in the shots at the end, I think they would’ve considered that plot hole if the earth had no atmosphere. They killed humanity with some undisclosed alien tech, and the details around how aren’t relevant.
>>215676535>alien ending was a hallucinationHoly fuck, take your low IQ reddit takes there. Jesus Christ you're fucking stupid.
>>215676920Well that's unfortunate. The director aired the frustration of Koreans living in a corporate prison rat race. Hollywood benefits from corporations running studios, festival sponsors, endorsement deals. These celeb actors can never be truly anti-corporate in their faux concern
>>215676999And it sounds like Yorgos turned it into a 99% of humanity sux + deserves genocide?
>>215676734Did you miss the part about them experimenting on humans to fix their flawed nature? I think you did, kiddo. The human experiment failed. They terminated it. End of. Humans bad. Roll credits.Did you also miss the part about how tranquil the planet was for all the animals and the bees after the humans were killed? End of. Humans bad. Roll credits.
>>215676168The Andromedans made people in their image. There is a real theory that the Bible is infallible but the angels, demons, and God are aliens. Michelle's monologue at Teddy was basically 3 schizo /x/ threads woven together. If you notice, there are crosses in Teddy's house to show he is a Christian. So Don had the right idea, ask to come with them and serve them and not kick them out and threaten them. In a sense, Don was Dismas and Teddy was Gestas.
>>215675760>This movie isn't even deep. It's surface level "humans bad".HOLY FUCKING FILTERED LMFAO
>Meth Damon posts hereNot surprising.
>>215677067>le meth damon chungus 100 xD
>>215677065>n-no it's about corporate overlords...Ok lil Timmy.
>>215676163Literally this. Greece has money in this movie and would need with a Greek actor or a scene shot in Greece. And because there's only like 4 roles with significant dialogue, Stavy becomes Officer Touchy.
>>215677092it's about aliens you fucking dingus
>>215677168>it's about aliens>but it's not about humans badOk lil Timmy.
>>215675533Fuck off with your shilling.
>>215675533I love how the last scene is a commentary on diversity in film. It shows all kinds of people from all walks of life dead in their communities. It was incredibly cynical and reminded me of the Norm MacDonald Weekend Update joke about Spike Lee being mad at Twister not having black roles as "Not enough black people were killed by tornados."Jesse Plemmons is super underrated at this stage of the game. He has been knocking it out of the park in everything I've seen him in. And it isn't like Jesse Plemmons is playing Jesse Plemmons, it's like he becomes someone who looks like Jesse Plemmons. I am happy he got a role that wasn't racist. After Killers of the Flower Moon, I couldn't ignore that he was being typecast as one. Probably because the best way to describe him is "blonde." Blonde hair, blonde eyes, blonde face, blonde smile. He's blonde. I was surprised he didn't get his wife into the Alicia Silverstone role. I would've liked to see her take on the antifreeze scene.
>>215677187>movie constantly shows that humans are being exploited as worker drones with constant bee imagery and metaphor>humans throughout the movie (with the exception of 1.5 individuals), up until the very end, are tirelessly working to help protect the queen>at the very end, the aliens kill all humans because they were beginning to realize the truth>"the movie means humans are bad LOL"
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>>215676096UhAre you missing the part where he was right about everything and was being as directly proactive as possible, and came within a cunthair's width of taking out the mothership singlehandedly?
emma stone nude
>>215677195>noooo don't talk about movies on the movies television board let's talk about some slag's feet insteadyour day will come
>>215677243>He's blonde.I love Plemmons too but he's clearly strawberry blonde anon
>>215676997So you think her plan was to really send teddy to the ship? She didn’t know about the bomb until right before he goes in the closet.
>>215677044Yeah that’s where I mentioned the critiques on humanity about environmentalism but that doesn’t mean the movie is condoning the genocide of all humanity. The experiments I saw more as the andromedans exploiting the weak for their own agenda (to pacify humanity) then something being done from a truly benevolent species. Especially when the movie is clearly making a point about upper class elitists, and then when Emma stone goes mask off about being an alien she doubles down and gets even more psychotic. A movie can have more than one message. Its humans are flawed and elites are so detached from reality that they’re basically aliens. It’s not siding with the elites
>>215677263literally me
>>215677245you're literally retarded, they didn't kill the humans to protect their secret, but because their experiments to 'fix' them were bearing no fruit. humanity was the rotting carcas for the bugonia at the end scenes
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>>215677338>So you think her plan was to really send teddy to the ship?nta but yes. He would've immediately died in their chemical atmosphere and it would've been a simple (and fittingly arrogant) way to eliminate him. Just arrive to his spasming body collapsed on the floor after realizing the truth.
>>215676916was lucky enough to see early screenings of Nouvelle Vague and Sentimental Value. those were great and the latter will win awards for sure. sadly I missed the early screening for No Other Choice but I can already tell it has legs. It Was Just an Accident pretty good, won't win though. Hawke will get a nom for Blue Moon but like always, he'll get passed over. like I said, it really has been a week year for major and smaller films. the later half of the year really picked up, it's crazy how shitty the 1st half was.
>>215677365>humanity was the rotting carcas for the bugonia at the end scenesdoes not mean the message is "HUMANITY LE BAD", you are the extremely potent variant of retard who thinks everyone ELSE is retarded. Actually this is a perfect movie for you
based on this thread. Im guessing my prediction once i saw the trailer that the twist would of course be that she actually is an alien was right huh?
>>215675533I've been using kodaks "Shot on film" webpage as a cheat sheet of all the movies that people thought were good enough to invest the time and money to shoot on 35mm. With a few exceptions (Jurrassic Park wtf) it's been a pretty good rule of thumb.
>>215677243Having his wife play his mother would've probably been bad for everybody
>>215677430You can't make a grounded conspiracy movie about elites running the world in the current climate, it would be immediately smeared as "antisemitic"
>>215677512>in the current climateThe same current climate where both far-left and far-right hate the fucking jews? NOW IS THE TIME, only establishment fucks still say that ISRAEL IS OUR GREATEST ALLY
>>215677407I see you're set on ignoring the dialogue about the experiment failing before them killing the humans?
>>215677545OK good luck financing it
>>215677593>the experiment failed because humans are resilient to our goy control experiments>"pffft another shit movie where the message is humanity is le bad, gonsumerism evil, into the trash it goes"I see you're still retarded
>>215677512what the hell does that have to do with what i said??????
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>>215677593The experiments failed because we didn’t live up to the elites standards. When the alien council decided to wipe out all of humanity they didn’t give a fuck. They talked about 8 billion lives like a failed investment. Just like Emma stone and her mega-corp didn’t give a fuck about putting Plemmons mom in a coma. The point is elites can and will fuck over everyone else when it’s convenient because they have unbridled power.
>>215675533Is this artfag shit or does it actually have a plot that wasn't written by a schizophrenic jew on LSD?
this was like /pol/ + /x/ the movie.
>>215677773it's just plot, it's his most normal movie. not pretentious.
>>215675533>Plemmons deserves Best Actor.doubt.png
>>215677397Blue Moon was garbage.
>>215677430That's not the twist. That's obvious from the get-go. The twist is the aliens are the good guys trying to help humans.
>>215675533>$10M opening weekend on $50M budgetfloponiawhat is the weirder trajectory:the sandra bullock: start doing movies about blacks and black problems, adopt blacks, go on tv and cry that you're not black, go from america's sweetheart to some weirdo cat ladythe emma stone: shack up with the greek uwe boll, make flop after flop. start doing nudity but it's horribly disappointing, more greek uwe boll. profit?why do white women lose their minds like this?
>>215678318Is Emma fucking the dirrector? BGC won?
>>215677806ok, i watched the trailer. So is this meant to be an allegory for conspiratards and jews or ?
word of mouth is great for this, i see it being a hit. people didn't know what to think from the trailers alone so it won't make much right away.
>>215678600No. It's about how humans suck and are just mean genocidal apes >:(
Did most of the budget go to paying off Stone she couldn't at least whip out an alien tit for us
One of my friends said he went drinking with some friends in college and met Emma Stone through a friend of a friend. They spent the whole night hanging out but did not fuck. He said she was very nice.
>>215678318what is this shirt even referencing?
>>215676871This commentor is rightthere is an unbelievable amount of retards who watched this entire movie and just thought>humans bad durrrrrwhen there were clearly varying levels of evil, responsibility, manipulationit's very clear that Emma Stone is the main antagonist and evilPlemons has good intentions, despite doing evil thingsit's like everyone forgot the cousin in the movie is manipulated the entire time
>huh wow my dick is small and I'm fat but I'm good at eating pussy because I love eating things>HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA>but the breakfast?Is he as annoying in this movie as I'm imagining? It's the main reason I haven't fired it up yet.
>>215679137big words for a little man
>>215679182keep drooling and smashing your keyboard
>>215679180I found him to be kinda distracting, but I’m already familiar with stav. My wife barely noticed. You’ll probably feel the same as me. Luckily he’s only in it for like 6 mins
seeing stav die a painful gruesome death was very cathartic
Meth Damon is not the best actor but he easily outclasses Jesse Pinkman
>>215678994White slave owners would use black slaves to breast feed their children.
>>215680128What a stupid thing to do? What is the point? Especially if you consider the slaves inferior? What kind of mental retardation rationalizes this?
>>215675808No Emma boobas this timeAfter the cumfest that were Poor Things and KoK, Bugonia feels very tamed. Just some shots of Stone's legs and feet in the first half, and that's it.That's good though, bald chicks freak me out
>>215677187Saaaaar I ceo I poop on street add curry and eat
>>215679180More like 5am
>>215676535You're seeing things that aren't there in order to make this 6.75/10 flick look cooler and smarter than it is, anon.It's an extremely wacky movie.
>>215677430The twist is that le ebin POC and women aliens are genocidal fucks and that the two retarded basement dwellers are the only sane people on earth
>>215679180his character is an annoying pedophile so it works out fine
>>215678994White slave owners would use black slaves breastmilk to make pecan pie
>>215679180He has like 20 lines in the entire movieI didn't understand his character, just another way to show how fucked up teddy's childhood was, but we really didn't need that.
>>215676056>The atmosphereIt's the firmament/glass dome. You guys need to study up on your flat earth lore.
>>215680616>I didn't understand his characterThe creator is greek and greeks are the only """whites""" who are allowed to have an in-group preference.
>>215680634Well actual flat earthers think space is fake and the end of the movie is on a spaceship so I don’t think they were going for 100% accuracy there
>>215676999This was very much the point for the remake as well...it was just subtle...? This was no mickey 17...thankfully
>>215675883can you tell me more about your stalking adventures? i'm looking to start following this cute jewish princess that lives around my block soon, and would like some advice.
>>215677773I actually met the screenwriter. He said that he wrote the movie 4 5 years ago during Covid when nobody really knew what was going on, and shit like that. He did look jewish tho
>>215677044Christ, the whole movie is a cautionary tale for humanity...the ending is supposed to be harrowing and disquieting...not haha fuck humanity. More a contemplation of how we are speed running our own demise by denying our humanity, frankly. It's actually a very humanist movie in my view.
>>215675533>but this may be the best film since The Master with a performance on the level of Joaquin in PlemmonsThat is an incredibly strong claim. I find it hard to believe.
>the alien pushes "diversity" and lgbt shit
>>215675992Looks kino to be honest
>>215677279Both things can be true. Sorry if that offends your sensibilities. He was right but did the ends justify the means? What was the prize for being right ?
>>215677340>. A movie can have more than one message. Its humans are flawed and elites are so detached from reality that they’re basically aliens. This was my exact read of the movie. How anyone can make the argument that it was a simplistic good vs bad morality play is beyond me.
>>215681587Not really. She even makes a comment about how she’s sick she is of saying “diversity”. And there’s no fags in the movie. It’s not that woke desu
>>215677397Thanks anon, I'll keep an eye out for those titles
This reminds me of The K_.ller. That hitman movie with Fassbender. This board would get into screaming matches about if it was good because no one could tell if the film was being serious or intentionally sillyI think it’s possible for a film’s themes to get muddied and undermine themselves, and I think that’s what happened here. It tried to do one two many things
>>215681785I liked The Killer but only because of Fincher's direction. But I agree with your point about the film not being fully on board with being a serious movie or a self-parodying weird thing.
>>215679137The cousin was the true innocent party in the movie who deserves the most sympathy and never loses it. I don't want to be cringe and say " le metaphor is he is symbolic of loss of innocence" but honestly, can't rule that out considering how much symbolism and allegory is present in the film.
>>215681785Have we all just forgotten about satire that is actually good and fairly nuanced?Since satire in the post-Trump Hollywood era has been poorly-concealed propaganda advertised as satire. Most recent example being Mickey 17 for me.
>>215682319Honestly I think people have just lost the appetite for satire entirely in the social media age. Any point a satirist could make has already been made ad nauseaum online
We share a forum with people that didn't realize it was a comedy even by this scene.This movie should be used as a baseline for people here.
>>215682319>>215682404Emotions sell. Everyone and their dog loved Joffrey in game of thrones. I thought he was a shit 2 dimensional outrage porn cartoon but 95% disagree. Satire is normally subtle and the plebs would much rather have in your face hot white moral outrage as White Elephant, Welcome to Derry or the Trump administration show.
>>215677340I read it in a more Lovecraftian way.Humanity is killer bees. A bred organism that was made to improve bees, but ultimately ended being too aggressive to be of any use.Emma Stone is not royalty, she is a scientist bee keeper who is trying to remutate the bees to make them useable. She sees humanity the way we see bees, we admire their diligence in a system we can project our humanity onto, but care little for individual bees. She still feels sad at the project she has to put down.Our purpose to these aliens is as foreign to us as it is to the bees. The bees cannot understand how their whole life system is manipulated by us to produce honey to eat. They have no context beyond the “hive” they are building, and the beekeeper may as well be a long-living force of nature manipulating them for some unknown cause.
>>215682500*White Lotus
>>215682452torrent?
>>215682508So how much of the movie is torture? 10 min, 30 min?
>>215682560she gets captured 16 minutes in and doesn't escape till the last 10 minutes or so
>>215682452I was the only one that was laughing in the theater when greenday started playing
>>215677773Its Korean
Jesse Plemons is distractingly ugly
>>215682508And that metaphor for the bees and the queen relationship...is in no way applicable to our individual lives and our place as laborers within it
