How was this script even greenlitHow does Jodie Foster still have a career after phoning it in so hardHow
qrd on the big issues with this movie's script. something quick, 1 2 3, what's the deal with Elyisum
>>215678018after watching last night, main issues:There's no depth to the characters. The rich people are just simply evil. The oppressed people are simply downtrodden and abused.The logistics of maintaining and enforcing a destitute, dangerous population are not addressed. The only police presence in LA is shown by two robo-cops. When the MC takes down a comically evil billionaire with two private robo-droids, the response is somehow only a private paramilitary hitsquad. See what happened with Luigi in NY for an appropriate responseSo many confrontations could have just been dealt with 'just shoot the motherfucker'Movie ends with a 'and then everyone was saved and everyone clapped' without dealing with the core problems that made elysium an attractive concept in the first place. With magic healthcare restoring all the poors' health, the overpopulation problem continues and worsens.
>>215678111fair points, thx
pretty much garbage except for copley
>>215677975Predictive programming. That's the future they envisioned.
>>215677975It was supposed to Star Eminem but he demanded it be shot in Detriot which the director did not want to risk.
Yes Ivan we know this is another pol raid thread. No Ivan this isn't about 3rd world immigration to white countries either. Yes Ivan the director explicitly stated that it's about how the rich need to stop hording everything, become empathetic and give resources to those who need it.
>>215677975i liked it>>215678111good luck addressing all that in less than 4 hours. i get what you're saying though. the plot is "le rich bad" and "gun go brrrr" with a sci fi veneer. for what it is, i liked it
>>215679831You don't have to address all of that in a movie duration. But come on, you don't have to write dialogue like this.
fuck you, I liked it. Better than Chapie
>>215678111>The rich people are just simply evil.rich people are parasites>that made elysium an attractive conceptthe problem is the rich build gated suburbs rather than make society better for all>healthcare restoring all the poors' health, the overpopulation problem continues and worsens.overpopulation is not the problem, lack of healthcare and a crumbling society is. the rich don't pay tax to improve society, they pay to live in their gated suburb. yet they exploit the poor for all the manufacturing and labor they need.
>>215677975Better than District 9
>>215680310Absolutely. Chappie was such an irredeemable piece of crap that barely anyone even remembers it happened. No one cares to watch it. It's just a stupid music video for a couple white trash idiots. They squandered the potential of what could have been a fun movie. Elysium looks like a masterpiece compared to it
>>215677975Yeah this should've been a trilogy
>>215680316Sorry, you're retarded.
>>215677975What was up with those two fight scenes where they used this weird 3d over the shoulder camera perspective for three seconds each like it was supposed to look cool but looked shit?
>>215680013Van Zant always an asshole even in the future
>>215677975Worth the ride for the smart gun and chem rail scenes alone
I liked watching matt damon get nuked then his health deteriorating
>>215680781My favorite part when he was all>aah>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Boss ate that grenade eh?
The guns, jets, and mercs were cool. The story was garbage
>>215677975jodie was kinda great in this, a bit bitchy and not tyrannical enough against blacks and browns but was professional for a corpo
>>215677975>Guy makes a competent, compelling sci-fi movie for pocket change and using basic effects>Hollywood hires him to do that movie again, but with big budget and American actors>Befitting a Hollywood production, nobody cares about the script>Movie is utter shitThis is a story dating till... dunno, early 50s? When Hollywood begin to remake foreign movies for Amerifat sentibilities, ALWAYS fucking shit up in the process. And from late 80s onward, they just fish out promsing directors, too, so they can get easy to boss around bitches to make more drivel for them
>>215677975>Whites leave earth>Entire planet becomes one giant 3rd world favela What did they mean by this
>>215683251I know you're trying to paint the other races as the ones that shit up the planet, but if it weren't for those elites, earth wouldnt have become a wasteland at all.
>>215683200>jodie was kinda great in thisYou cannot be serious right now. Every line that she delivered was delivered as if it were a one liner with half of the sentence deliberately slow or accentuated. Every one.
>>215677975I liked a lot of this film but it does come off as half bakedbetter than the "Just in time" film but still could have used a few rewrites
Copley was never cooler than this role
>>215678111Elysium is a metaphor for the 3rd world trying to enter the west because they think Elysium (America+Europe) magically possesses an infinite amount of magic beds that they could provide to the entire world for free forever, but they just *choose* to horde them away for no reason.The movie's entire good vs evil dichotomy is between the Gatekeepers and the Liberators.The movie is Libshit propaganda to make you think the west/elysium is evil and the rest of the 3rd world is entitled to their resources.>There's no depth to the characters. The rich people are just simply evil. The oppressed people are simply downtrodden and abused.It's peak MArxist ideology. The rich deserve whatever violence comes their way and the poor deserve retribution because asdfgeryg.It's a good movie if you're antifa, this is basically all they fight for.
>>215684746As predicted >>215679830
>>215683292Is this what antifa believes? The problem wasn't the criminals shooting up grocery stores and stabbing people on buses, but billionaires?
>>215679830>>215684796Hey leftypol, fighting the good fight on /tv/ I see! keep up the good work sisters! Power to the bipoc heroes! Don't forget to do a land acknowledgment!
>>215684797Resorting to the antifa boogeyman I can forgive but I see you're completely divorced from reality. This conversation is over.
>>215684850Meet you back at leftypol HQ! let's regroup and try again in an hour, I'm thinking we make another berniebro thread
>>215684746Sure they could have done that. Or this:>>215679830But either way, the shit that they filmed, edited, and most importantly wrote doesn't hold up.This is an actual line that made it into the film.>they shoot down two of three shuttles, oh yeah by the way poors just have derelict spacecraft with fucking missile lock sensors on them, and maybe like 30 people escape onto the surface of the ring>somehow they have cages with hundreds of poors on the station (which is, by the way, in fucking space and access controlled to the point of shooting down anything that isn't an identified friend) while they deport the 30 from the most recent shuttle landing
>>215684746they defintely should have explained the resources/energy required to utilize a med pod. The movie makes it seem like they can be used infinitely which if that's the case why wouldn't earth just have one and heal every single person. there cannot be a single reason allowed to exist in the script to make the rich on elysium sympathetic or justified in anything they do.
I fuckin love this movie, boet. in fact, I love the whole blomkamp trilogy
>>215680310imagine YolandE in Elysium. hope those med-beds have an abortion setting!
>>215685357shut up faggot
>>215684459I saw a clip of him from the Witcher show today, had some similar vibes.
>>215677975I liked the exoskeletons and weapons particularly the chemrail shootout in the armory, and the AK with programmable airburst ammo, kino!
>>215685361I wish Blomkamp had made his Alien movie. It would have been kino
>>215685361district 9 by a longshot and chappie just barely were the better films
>>215685524Thank God we didn't. Superman Returns proved that concept is garbage. Aliens fans dodged a mega bullet on that one.
>>215685454no
>>215685524has Blomkamp made any other kinoes on the same tier as D9/Chappie/Elysium that are slept on?
>>215685579Literally anything would be better than Alien 3. It would finally set the series back to where it should have been near Aliens instead of them making a dozen "prequels/reboots"
>>215685667in the books Weyland-Yutani manufactures child sex dolls
>>215685667You can't let a fan direct an alternative sequel. It's going to be nothing but nostalgia-bait fan-wank.
>>215685681Blade Runner made Lolita sex replicants so it fits in the same universe
>>215685698kek instead we got the trash Covenant (which isn't even related to Alien), the trash Romulus that's 90% nostalgia-bait fan-wank but terrible, and Alien Earth that's literal diarrhea. I'd take Blomkamp any day over that
>>215685841The proverbial bar appears to be very low for the Alien franchise. Grim.
>>215677975I honestly thought it was a decent film, the whole "please help the dirty brown people" bit was kinda much tho>>215678111if the antagonists had better background and depth it would have been a solid 8/10 and discussed in the same realm as Interstellar t b h
>>215685659just his YouTube videos. check out Oats Studios if you haven't yet
>>215683328nigger, did you not notice the "elitist accent" that everyone on the space station had? lolthey were on the station so long, they developed their own accent and cadence, fictner spoke similar and was great as well
>>215677975district 9
>>215684746I think what's most interesting about the movie is the magic health beds, but that's also the least explored. From our perspective, they seem to function as basically close to biological immortality, with the ability to miraculously repair your body to a sort of healthy "saved state" with seemingly no consequences or side effects. Unless Sharlto Copely is supposed to be insane from being rebuilt too many times or something. The problem is that it doesn't contextualize the magic beds at all. They're just hoarded up in Elysium for no reason and portrayed as something that every person there would have in their home. What's weirder is that there literally are magic bed transport ships ready and waiting to go to Earth at the end of the movie. So these magic beds are sort of a compact, transportable, consumer good that can seem to be powered in a typical home, and also give the user the unlimited life, and you're saying nobody on Earth ever got to have it because the rich people on Elysium never bothered to hit the "send" button on the magic bed ship? It just doesn't try at all to reconcile how or why the space elites are forcing the citizens of Earth to suffer and die, other than that they're just evil and greedy. It's bland and uninteresting.
>>215677975>How does Jodie Foster still have a career after phoning it in so hardthe reason her performance feels so off is because she originally played the character with a french accent (in real-life she speaks fluent french). blomkamp changed his mind so she had to dub all her lines.
>>215687122>It just doesn't try at all to reconcile how or why the space elites are forcing the citizens of Earth to suffer and die, other than that they're just evil and greedy. It's bland and uninteresting.Autism.
>>215687184It's also why that guy I responded to is right when he says that it's a shallow marxist commentary about how you just need to eat the rich and then you'll get unlimited happiness forever in the form of magic beds
>>215686795>nigger, did you not notice the "elitist accent" that everyone on the space station had? lolanon it's called French and there is an actual country in real life full of people that talk like that
>>215687122I think they're a very hamfisted metaphor for a discrepancy in "access to healthcare" and only exist as symbolism for that political message
>>215687633yea that's why Matt Damon is the star, he's a huge clean water/healthcare guy
>>215677975The movie's only really carried by its visual, gadgets and Kruger hamming it up as a villain. Outside of that it's a movie with shallow characters, action that is mean-spirited and lack any sort of thrill-factor, all while beating you over the head with it's shallow themes that scream "I did one semester of political science."At least the director admitted he fucked up the writing.
>>215687122Related: see this video on markets, space tech, and how projects get funded.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3aSAjuHdFIwhy would a company make a mobile super-medbay when there is literally no use case being bankrolled by investors? It makes no sense
>>215687577they spoke English.
I watch for she
>>215687178That's really interesting, I knew she spoke French, but that's pretty legit to do a whole movie that way.I also love the idea that maybe people aren't calling her agent and she gets annoyed. So then she goes to the studio heads office, walks past the security and receptionist, barges through the door and slams down two Oscars on their desk. "I want the best role you have before I go home."Then just stares at them until they start scrambling calling whomever to bring scripts and get casting agents on the phone.
>>215687122AGAIN, This is just how leftist 3rd worlders think, that we somehow have magic infinite resources for them that we horde for no reason, no logic to follow up. There's no consistency or logic because it's all bullshit feels over reals
>>215678111>The only police presence in LA is shown by two robo-cops. When the MC takes down a comically evil billionaire with two private robo-droids, the response is somehow only a private paramilitary hitsquad. See what happened with Luigi in NY for an appropriate responseDERPHERP DERP
>>215687836Watch the film again
>>215688099source: my ass
>>215677975unintentional comedy kino with some moments of excellent action, 7/10 would watch it again.
>>215685210The CEO may have some proprietary IP which makes him pretty much the only person able to edit the code at the time or something I don't remember that part specifically. Assembly in general can get pretty silly at times I wouldn't get caught up on some single line
>>215688129https://elysiumfilm.fandom.com/wiki/Elysium
>>215688167dude was handwriting x86 (32 bit) assembly lol.Would've made far more sense if it was at least 64 bit, or ARM or something. By the time the movie was made, that was already extremely common and 32 bit x86 was not.I'm guessing they just found some x86 shellcode from exploit-db and used that.
>>215678111>the response is somehow only a private paramilitary hitsquad.you didnt watch the movie if you dont understand why thats the case. unironic case of lacking complete and total media literacy.
>>215677975The director has never made a good movie>But muh District 9It was shit too.
>>215677975It was a fun movie though
>>215687122Also, you would think that they'd probably use the magic beds on the poors, purely to save money.Calling in sick? No you aren't - 5 minutes in the bed and then get to your shift.Rad poisoning from the plant? Costs more money to train your replacement. Too expensive for you to die. Med bed time.And of course they could hold it over the poors heads like some sort of reward. "1000 hours of overtime logged in a year = one free med bed ride for you or your loved one!"Don't forget all the "rich people" who would occasionally go down there (like ewen yafrenzadad) would probably want one for "safety" from the "roaming gangs of poors".
>>215677975>How was this script even greenlit Blompkampf did District 9 so the studios gave him carte blanche for their own version. They did this again to varying success with Chappie.>How does Jodie Foster still have a careerShe's one of the greatest actresses in Hollywood and Meryl Streep should be giving her cunnilingus because she's so much better than her.
>>215687888Hell yeah
>>215688373>She's one of the greatest actresses in HollywoodYeah I remember her in silence of the lambs, and taxi driver, and uhhhh
>>215688428contact
>>215688308oh, I watched the film. It's completely understood that the defense secretary or whatever the fuck she is was trying to make sure her coup wasn't uncovered at the least, and wanted to get the program back intact if possible. However, what isn't explained is why there is no other response to a high-level CEO being attacked and killed as a show-of-force against the unwashed masses. And to the people of elysium, you think they would be okay with that piss-poor response if it were their ass that got shot down by the filthy earthers? What would have made more sense is to have Foster's character put on a show-of-force while trying to sabotage or misdirect it in some way that permits her hired guns to reach the mark first. Especially since we see, in big letters in the command room screen, with many other people that are not in on Foster's ploy for a coup, "ELYSIUM CITIZEN IN DISTRESS THERE ARE BROWNS DOWN THERE TRYING TO KILL THIS GUY OH SHIT THEY KILLED HIM WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO BLAME THIS ON". And the response to that is to use an off-record, recently deactivated asset for this? No other official response than a no-fly order? And there are ships available on-demand to fly down from elysium with this fancy med bay tech but they don't have some equivalent paramilitary hit squad to go down to the planet and assert dominance?You're retarded if you think that plot line made sense.
>>215688380the weapons were pure sex in this flick, definitely the best part
>>215688428The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane is massively underrated and one of the best child acting performances. Backtrack is funny but she was good. The Accused was also a good performance, better than Streep.
>>215677975I really like this movie even though the writing is kind of bad. Reminds me of dystopian cyberpunk.
>>215685698no you're right the 12 films since alien 3 have totally been the right direction for the franchise instead you fucking dipshit
>>215678111That's what I dislike about all of Neill Blomkamp's movies. They feature characters that are "downtrodden", but they're all a bunch of assholes fighting against other assholes and you don't really care about anything that's happening and there's always some kind of social message going on that has the depth of a children's cartoon.
>>215690010he needs a good writer/producer backing him dude knows how to do setpieces and give films visual weight
>>215688272>I'm guessing they just found some x86 shellcode from exploit-dbNo, that assembly specifically is 32-bit x86 that is ran during initial boot. It's why it mentions "protected mode", x86 processors still boot from 16-bit (real mode), to 32-bit (protected mode), and finally to 64-bit mode (long mode).It's not assembly code meant to run as an application, but it's more in the context of a bootloader or kernel.
>>215690075its just a dumb action flick retard
>>215690135I was just adding some fun trivia to the conversation, you niggerlicious chud.
>>215678111Its been a minute but I remember Jodie foster going to dieter because she was caught up in some shady shit and thus was trying to keep it off the books. Her choosing a maniac is a separate plot hole and he does turn on her in the end I think
>>215690075straight from the osdev wiki then
>>215678111>See what happened with Luigi in NY for an appropriate response>he doesnt know
>>215688021You have to go back
>>215677975>remigration - the moviepretty based
Jodie was hired because she can speak french and look posh.
>>215680316dumb all round. it takes years, even decades for someone to become a doctor, just a gp. Not even speaking specialists here. They are a rare precious resource. But yeh let's take that resource and focus it on some low iq family with ten kids.
he's the only good thing in that shitshow of a movie
>>215678111>>215684746zoomers unironically got filtered by an anti-immigration/ pro-apartheid movie. guess that's what happens when you watch a movie that came out when you were 6
I always wanted a woyf
