What did Kubrick see in King that made him hate him so much?
two hacks
A visionary
>>215679269>Kubrick see in KingIT. he saw evil.
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>>215679269King was a coked out maniac who blamed his abuse of his family on drugs and alcohol, basically you're average AA goer, and his book was a self-absolution of his behavior. Kubrick rightfully showed that Jack aka King was just a dick, booze or no booze.
>>215679269he saw someone who used cocaine as a crutch and had a poor grasp on horror in general.The only thing King was good at is premise and characters
>>215679269come and see face
>>215679269Kubrick was a Trump supporter.
>>215679269he didn't hate king, he liked the story concept and wanted to make the project his own thing while also making it work as a 150 minute movie. king is the retard for thinking a completely faithful adaptation of a 500 page book would work as a movie, they're different mediums, and he looks like a complete bitch for crying about it when it's the greatest work of art he'll ever be associated with
> kubrick was obsessed with pedophiles> kubrick didnt quite like the aura of a guy who ended up doing a book were kids do an orgyhuh.
>>215679564I have to agree with this. Most of King's books read like a brick and his best stories are the short stories where he has to stop yapping about useless info and actually focus on the plot. Kubrick and Darabont made his stories into better versions because they cut out all the useless bullshit.
>>215679269He saw the very abusive dad King was writing about in the Shining and thought it was disgusting that he was meant to be seen as sympathetic.So he took the self insert and made him even more like King himself, which pissed King off for life.
>>215679645Yeah. Different seasons is his best work and even then 1/4 of it is trash
>>215679620WHERE ARE THE TOPIARIES??? HUH??? HUH??? WHERE IS MY HAUNTED FIREHOSE, STANLEY???
>>215679269King was a junky, Kubrick saw him for what he was.
"pee"ven "pee"ng is too busy pissing his pants and wetting his bed. he's probably peeing right now
>>215679269KEK, based af Kubrick
Look at those fucking chinky eyes. Bet his name is Stephen Ching
>>215679269>my dad being mean to meHis mom was a single parent.It was an allegory on how he was being mean to his family but it wasn't really his fault.
I unironically prefer the TV miniseries. I never read the book and I am not a fan of King or anything, I just think it's more compelling even if some things like the music are obviously worse. I think Jack being nice at first and Wendy having some agency are good things.
>>215679824nigger pls, you must have a mental disease now assume the position
>>215679269it's because jack torrance was clearly his self insert and kubrick made that character into a pedophile
>>215679269King is trashy and Kubrick is a snob. Of course he's gonna hate him.
>>215679269Kubrick clearly felt threatened when confronted with a superior intellect.
>>215679564>>215679645Brainlet take. The most interesting parts in his books are when he gets into weird and unhinged tangents that have nothing to do with the story. Like in Cujo that whole bizarre subplot about defective breakfast cereals that made it look like children where puking and shitting blood.
>>215680486a lot of shit like this in the tommyknockers too was great
>>215679269The only thing King was ever good at was coming up with original ideas. In that regard, he is an idiot savant.
>>215679269King is pedophile
King was the type of guy Kubrick made eyes wide shut about
>>215680923I just rewatched EWS recently. I now believe the CIA murdered Kubrick because he accidently made a movie about them. The characters were the only fictional thing about it.
Kubrick was a little bitch who let Tom Cruise “have his way with him” and then cried about it to R Lee Ermey
>>215679555Jack wasn't that bad it was the ghosts who changed him. Why do you redditors talk about this theory like it's fact?
>>215680978>accidentallyHe told Nicole Kidman that pedophiles run the world during the production of the movie
Kubrick also hated Burgess and Arthur C(men) Clark and defiled their gay concepts, probly true for lolita and eyes wide shut too
A lot of king's work involves sex, a lot of his books are about child characters.I think he's a pedo, probably one of those ones who got touched as a kid and re-lives it and shit but that doesn't make it OK.
>>215681028He hated Arthur C Clarke? Didn't they work together on writing the script for the film and the book at the same time? Where are you gleaning this supposed hatred he had for Clarke from?
>>215681114Idk what that anon is talking about but Arthur C Clark has also been creditably accused of being a gay pedophile who moved to jungle bug land to fuck 10 year old boys.
>>215681114Kubrick lost a lot of respect, both personally and creatively, for Clarke after he raped all those boys in Sri Lanka.
>>215681114>BUT DEY WORKED 2GETHER!Midwit alert! Rob Ager wrote about it extensively, but don't let that get in the way of your dork ass fellating Art's pedo fag sci-fi nerd rapist dog fucking dogshit penis, you big carnival of retards compiled into one psyche and youre gay
>>215681000It's the drive up, they think jack is angry
What did he mean by this?
>>215679269Usually I prefer adaptations to be relatively faithful, but in this case, Kubrick is a visionary genius who is much better at his craft than King ever was at his. Of course Kubrick knew better how to make The Shining work than King ever could.
>>215679269oof
>>215679608>Trump's friend and fellow New York real estate figure, Steve Roth, the CEO of Vornado Realty Trust. Roth was a major financier of Kubrick's final film, Eyes Wide Shut (1999).That's actually interesting
people exaggerate how different they are. Kubricks shining simplifies the characters but he captures the setting and mood really well. And in turn most of the memorable moments from the movie are still from the book. You couldn;t fit everything in a two hour movie. The main plot points are all the same besides the hotel not blowing up and Halloran being killed
>>215679269For King that was another dime a dozen book
>>215679269> my dad was mean to me so i take it out on epstein's island toddler slaves?? but i feel like a real human bean white knighting for redskins??> cryptic cum spiccy about federal reserve banking
>>215679269He knew Steven shot John Lennon dead in 1980.
>waaaah the source material is ALWAYS better than any adaptation fuck you for thinking otherwiseWhy are hardcore bookfriends like this? They’re so holier than thou when it comes to their choice of medium. They act like reading is some high form of art and that anything else is for the plebeians. They’re like Redditors who tip their fedoras over reading.I like books, and I’m not just talking about anyone who reads. I’m meaning diehard book fans who refuse to watch film, tv etc
>>215681978The ironic thing about your post is a lot of /tv/ posters will swear up and down that Fear and Loathing is a better book which is flat out wrong. The movie is a 1:1 adaptation and captures the atmosphere perfectly.
>>215681978True bookfags don't pay any attention to movies at all. They've truly written off the whole medium and never even think about it. Stephen King fans are barely literate retards that are desperate to appear cultured for reading.
>>215680486True true. After thousands of pages of The Dark Tower it was King's weird fear of masculine hispanic gardeners raping him in one of his short stories that spooked me more then any big bad he wrote.
>>215679269>guy who wrote a child orgy scene says the epstein client list isn't real
>>215679269Within his life Kubrick saw King make an evil soda machine, an evil car, evil Pac-man people that eat people, a hotel but it's evil, and all sorts of other dumb shit. It was easy for Kubrick to see him as a hack.
>>215682034I thought most people grew out of their Hunter S Thompson phase once they left high school
>>215679269King is a perfect storm of >ideas guy>should have stopped talking 30 minutes agoThat is why the movies adapting his work are usually better the his original work. He has a cool concept and writes a story but he cant stop and he keeps getting more and more ideas and then he only ends his book when he gets an idea for a new book.Very talented and bizarre individual who will never make a 9/10 or 10/10 book
>>215679748LmaoKing of Faggotry
>>215679269King and Kubrick were both sick assholes and used their distinct art forms to spread their sickness.
Shawshank and Green Mile are also better in film
>>215681251Odd this was the only thing he agreed with Trump on
>>215682244Kekked
>>215682079>t. read lord of the rings once 20 years agoThe most esteemed living capital L literature author author is known pothead TV addict
>>215679645>Most of King's books read like a bricksorry you're dumb, must be hard.
>>215679269i think it was stephen king's believe in a post-life as implied by his belief in ghoststhat's what infuriated Kubrick as per stephen king himself
>>215682281I can tell you're one of the barely literate since you for some reason think I associate with either group.
>>215680990>his best movie was the one where he lost creative controlwhat did Kubrick mean by this?
>>215681028What would Kubrick have thought of Gene Wolfe?
>>215679269Kubrick told he finds his works overrated.King jokingly replied that this make the two of them.Kubrick got furious, taking it very personally.King just went back to doing coke, thinking nothing of it, while Kubrick was seething for over a decade over the fact he was told in his face he's a hack
>>215682332>I can tell that HURRRRRRR I'M AUTISTIC AND DUMBER THAN A SACK OF HAMMERS BUT I SURE DO BITCH AND SUCK MYSELF OFF ALL THE TIME REEEEEEEEEbless your heart
>>215682211Being weird, mentally ill, insane etc often leads to some of the best art. A lot of normal people make shit that’s derivative as fuck. They take two or three stories they enjoy and cram their ideas together to try make something “new”It’s the weirdos who come up with the original ideas, for better or worse
>>215681251What does anyone on X mean about anything? It's a platform for drunk posting. At one point, Twitter was a feasible alternative for people who had to pay for texting, but it stopped serving a purpose long ago. I mean, 4chan is also a platform for drunkposting, but X is functionally worse. I've yet to see point in analyzing even one drive-by post to ever appear on X.I'm getting off-topic. What King might mean is that he believed the Justice Department when it stated this year that there never was a written Epstein client list, and he didn't believe the same DoJ and the president when they said there was. Either it is or isn't real, so each person has to believe that the DoJ was lying at some point.>>215681496Good analysis -- but you're not being nearly enough of an ass for 4chan.
>>215681175Anon did Arthur C Clarke do things to you? You can tell us. You're among /tv/ friends here. It's a safe space.
>>215682523Coke also helps.And King did a fuckload of coke at his peak.There are like two distinctive phases of his decline: no more coke (noticeable drop in quality and quantity) and the car accident (noticeable drop in quality, but spike of quantity).
>>215679269Kubric voted for Trump
>>215679269The real question (which isn't a question really at all) is why is this blatant open violent pedophile so popular with shitlibs?
>>215679269being intelligent makes you hate stupid people.
>>215679269pedophile rapist murderer jew
>>215682722Whys trump popular with the right despite covering for those involved with Epstein?People typically have no moral convictions
>>215681000He abused his son and broke his arm before the events of the movie. Did you grow up in a nigger household to think that's normal?
I've never read King but I've always suspected he was simply a name used by other authors to be published (once he had his early success). AI could easily test this.
>>215682890It's reverse.He wrote under bunch of pen names, but it turned out to be just the same guy. In fact, some of his better works were under pen names.
>>215682570Nta but I think Clark's books have aged terribly, I'm sure his futurist shit was mindblowing to boomers but its just cringeworthy now. His best book is Childhoods End and even that goes to shit after the overlords reveal themselves.
>>215682936That's what he says but for all I know he gang raped Richard Bachman to death in a sewer and now won't even sell his kewl school shooter meme book.>>215682951But anon I hate Childhood's End that's his worst book and why I assumed you hated him.>actually humanity should just end because of space satan
>>215681251He didn't get the update that leftists were supposed to believe in the Epstein list now that Trump is in office again.
>>215682757Not everyone's still buying his lies after the folders photo opp, but did you miss the constant distraction + the old canard of the lesser of 2 evils? The fact inflation was denied during Yellen then deficit now interest the left is pathetic.
>>215682951I was going to cite Orphans of the Sky but that's by the much better author Robert Heinlein so woops. Now THAT should be a movie or a kino as the youth call them.
>>215682426>the whole time Stephen King was ripping on his own works and didn't have a strong opinion on Kubrick
>>215679269What's this? King looks like the spitting image of a Dr. Seuss character.
Based Stan the Man.
>>215680858hes good at convering bullshit ideas into a coherent story that doesnt completely fall apart under any scrutiny>what if its a car>but its haunted>and it kills peoplegenius
>>215681369It feels like Kubrick was particularly laser-focused on fucking with Stephen King.
>>215679269Reptilian smile.
>>215679269Kubrick totally fucked up the ending of the book.
>>215681251He's high on the list is what he means.
>>215682757>Nobody mentions trump>BUT WHAT ABOUT DRUMPF?!?!!??!Stephen is that you? Why not stop raping children? It's not hard to do.
>>215682145Wrong.
>>215683461He mentioned pedo shit on the left, so naturally when I thought of pedo shit on the right the first thing that springs to mind is the current administration
All I know is that the topiary that moves when you're not looking at it is the spookiest part of the shining (the concept would later be reused by dr who for the weeping angels and countless horror bideo games) and it being replaced by a gay maze is lame and gay
King heaped praise on the 2019 Pet Sematary adaptation, which in addition to being an indefensibly dogshit movie deviates even further from the source material than The Shining did, so basically he's just as wildly hit or miss in his assessments of adaptations of his work as he is in his writing it. He's probably just hooked on prescription drugs nowadays as a surrogate for the mounds of blow he did in the 80s. He was in my hometown several times years ago filming his movies, everyone I know who met him back then has a "Stephen King is a shithead" story. He's just depositing checks and talking out of his ass after they clear.
>>215679645Imagine being filtered by Stephen fucking King lmao.
>>215679748It's the mongol gene
>>215680730Yeah that whole rambling middle section of the Tommyknockers about all the random shit going on around the town is great. The Becka Paulson chapter also got altered a little and adapted as an episode of The Outer Limits in the late 90s.
Kubrick was a based jew that hated jews, i would love to talk to him to get a better understanding of this
>>215683888Imagine still thinking he's a good author. You should go read the Dark Tower series. You can physically see his writing get worse and worse. If anything fatman Martin is smart to want to die without finishing his series if his alternative is as big a let down as Dark Tower was.
>>215679269The same any sane person did, stephie is a faggot hack
They're both douches, although King is much worse.Kubrick>treated cast and staff on his films like total shit, famously tormented Shelly Duvall throughout the entirety of The Shining's production, would blow smoke from his cigarettes into the faces of random staff and scream at and then fire them if they complained at all>wife swore he was a different, much kinder man behind closed doors, apparently was an animal lover and had like 20 dogs at one pointKing>psychotic drug addict that abused his family relentlessly, kids despise him now, eternally upset over getting bullied as a kid and blames it on religion and republicans when it's now known he was a creepy faggot in high school who would stalk women and write retarded edgelord threats to students and teachers that tried to get him to knock it off>blatantly, openly extremely narcissistic and completely up his own ass>>215679645I agree completely. I think King can come up with good concepts from time to time but his actual writing is shit and his characters are all stiff robots with no emotion at all. I always thought Koontz was a much better horror writer even if he can never resist the urge to remind the reader that God is Good and helps the hero before the climax of every story.
>>215679620What gets me the most is that the majority of it is a faithful adaptation and King's biggest gripes are pedantic shit he has been seething about forever. Him being eternally ass blasted over changing Jack's weapon of choice from a croquet mallet to a fire axe is fucking hilarious to me still.
what did he think of Robert Englund's seminal performance as Mr. Gartley in The Mangler
>>215679555I think king is a hack but he got sober which his family undoubtedly benefited from so I don’t understand your little rant.
>>215682410Hi Chuck
What's a tommyknocker? It sounds like New England slang for a gay guy.
>>215684579Souls of the Jews who crucified Christ, condemned to wander underground tunnels for eternity.
>>215682630Dead people vote blue.
>>215679269>What did Kubrick see in King that made him hate him so much?Talent.
>>215681000In the book he’s a flawed good guy that redeems himself in the end (obvious King self-insert), Kubrick’s Jack is clearly loony from the beginning and he makes it more vague as to why he goes full psycho.
>>215681000Kubrick didn’t give a fuck about the original author’s intent, he always wanted to do his own thing because he was based. Ironically Lolita is one of his most faithful adaptations, but got fucked by censorship.
>>215682145No, he gets better with age.
>>215679269He probably saw his writing process, which involved keeping his pants around his ankles and continuously cranking it to coke in front of his typewriter.
>>215679289They are looking at us...
>>215679269King was an alcoholic. Kubrick was the son of an alcoholic. It's pretty obvious why Kubrick wasn't very empathetic or sympathetic towards Jack as a character.
>>215681978cope
>>215684091To be fair, the 'Kubrick was abusive' claim has been contested, to the point that Duvall and other people working on the Shining have stated that it was blown out of proportion. There's also the fact that a lot of the claims of Kubrick's abuse for any of his movies lack concrete/definitive sources. It really comes down to just hearsay and rumor.
>>215679635It wasn’t an orgy it was a train. Read the book instead of parroting others.
>>215685897>I didn't eat poop, it was shit!
>>215679325Why is this so funny
>>215679325One time in highschool i did some acid at a friends house, and I remember being very upset because the whole night his dog had people-eyes, and that fucking picture just gives me flashbacks.
>>215684091>famously tormented Shelly Duvall throughout the entirety of The Shining's productionReddit.
>>215685897How do you have sex with a train?
>>215682034>The movie is a 1:1 adaptationNo, it cuts out all the north vegas stuff and finding the american dream. And at least my copy has "The Kentucky Derby is Decadent and Depraved" which is just a fantastic short story about him covering the kentucky derby and the debauchery that happens at the infield during the derby.
>>215679645His short stories are better for sure. Has The Jaunt ever been adapted? Seems like an obvious one for an anthology. His full length books are too variable in quality, probably due to what drugs he was on at the time. I always thought his dialogue was really poor too.
>>215686689Short stories and novellas are about the right length to be adapted to a movie without having to cut too much out. Once you're trying to condense a 300+ page book into a 100 page screen play you start getting into a situation where you're forced to cut so much out that it makes the exercise kind of pointless.
None of this ever happened, it's a publicity stunt, like Biggie and Tupac.
>>215687163King famously didn't like the adaptation. I think a lot of the feud was one sided, and mostly just people trying to get a new sound bite from king. And as far as I know he was always a little touchy about any of the movie adaptations
>>215679645>Most of King's books read like a brick and his best stories are the short stories where he has to stop yapping about useless info and actually focus on the plot.THISLiterally dropped the dark tower shortly into the first book. Once the MC lost his hand / arm I knew I'd be constantly hearing dozens of pages worth of shit about it unless/til he can somehow get it back 2000 pages later via deux ex machina. I already read 'the stand' at this point so I wasn't in the mood to waste another hundred pages on this hack let alone a thousand. >>215680486Yeah, nothing like that pointless fucking tractor battery epoxy scene one character literally has an internal monologue about on at least TWO separate fucking occasions.... More bullshit that doesn't actually happen or have an effect the plot, but we're stuck hearing his character imagine it for 20 pages. Oh sure it might be a "thematic allegory / metaphor" but for the GOOD vs BAD post apocalyptic CITY vs CITY story, a fucking allegory about being able to "just fix that split battery back to spick and span with a bit of ol epoxy just let it dry for 20 fucking pages worth of runtime" metaphor just seems fucking pointless and out of place at best, and the work of a hack when he literally has to do it twice. >>215683888>Imagine being filtered by Stephen fucking King lmao.>Eyes of the DragonBig bad literally teleports out of the story at the end nearly the moment he's confronted by the MC... "go buy 30 more books to understand the Crimson King storyline!">InsomniaOMG the baby introduced (and who ONLY appears) on page 980/1080 is TOTALLY important to the crimson king storyline eventually... somehow... "go buy 30 more books to understand the Crimson King storyline!"see >>215684030 and every other fucking story where>Main / other character is a fucking WRITER....>Imagine still thinking he's a good author.
STEPHEN THIS IS YOUR FATHERYOU ARE STILL A LOSER STEPHENA LITTLE QUEER LOSER
>>215679635This is actually the reason he made the Shining in my opinion and in doing so was calling out King the same way he was calling out certain individuals in EWS.
>>215679325Eyes Wide Mutt
more like Eyes Wide Butt
>>215679269the shining (film) is overratedthere are some aspects that are great. Jack nicholson is really fun to watch, the shots and filmmaking is great, the music is good, there's a reason why so many of the scenes are iconicbut at the same time the other characters are annoying, it's not very scary, it's predictable, and jack is really obviously crazy from the beginning. I think the movie is overrated by people who haven't seen it in a long time and just remember the good parts, and people who judge it based on its impact in popular culture. The film and its characters lack depth, and it's only somewhat made up for by the scenes and images that really stand out.
>>215688565>everything about the film is good but it's not full of jumpscares so it's badcool take
>>215688596not what I said faggot
>>215688493more like Guy's Wide Butt
>>215684091>when it's now known he was a creepy faggot in high school who would stalk women and write retarded edgelord threats to students and teachers that tried to get him to knock it offnot doubting you but any sauce for this?
>>215681002She oughta know
>>215681002>Character is daughter of infamous kiddy diddler >Hmmm let's call her KidmanBRAVO KUBRICK
>>215681000Retard, they talk about how he was abusing his family before going to the hotel.
>>215685478That’s why it doesn’t work imo. Nicholson already seems unhinged before he even goes there.
>>215679555This post is fantastic.
>>215679269Kubrick read the book and saw some deeper meaning in it that King had never intended. When Kubrick called up King to talk about it he rapidly realized King was a midwit who had merely accidentally wrote something potentially elevated and Kubrick just made a movie about what he had initially saw in the book while King - the pleb American slob he is - got mad Kubrick elevated his work and didn't make a generic B movie hammer film for normie retards that King wanted.
>>215679555THISHISI’ve been saying this for years
>>215685740/thread
>>215684091That sounds like bullshit about Kubrick. From what I have gathered, Kubrick was a very demanding director that would have people do scenes over and over and over again, until they are perfect. Naturally, the crew would eventually complain about it, but Kubrick would not have it any other wayThe only legit incident is where the clockwork orange guy got eye damage from that device they had strapped on his eyes during the brainwashing scene
>>215690194Brainlet take
>>215681978They cant cope film has the potential to be a better medium because of its visual nature . >imagine a painting but youre only able to read the description of it and not the pictureSo at the end of the day, when you say that medium is better you end up looking like a brainlet. Plotfags are also this retarded btw and now they have infested film discussion with their stupid youtube videos and reddit shit
>>215681415But Trump was definitely on Epstein Island, right? Even though his friend funded one of the biggest "we're ruled by a secret society of elite pedophiles and you have to do something" films.
>>215685478>In the book he’s a flawed good guy that redeems himself in the end (obvious King self-insert)Least obvious King self-insert honestly. He loves that shit and no I'm not talking about Dark Tower, I'm thinking of his gag-worthy novella
>>215683572>He mentioned proven pedo shit on the left. So naturally I thought of unproven and bases pedo shit on the right that I only talk about because a guy that I was just calling a retarded Nazi who shouldn't be trusted said Trump was on the list.
>>215679269Ignoring/shitting on the source material is standard procedure for hollywood adaptations of other media.
>>215680978Nothing accidental about it. The original story was about a jew seething that he would never be able to reach the wealth and decadence of the European elites, EWS is about the exact opposite situation. Of course it’s not just about jews but that was a major part of it.>>215681000Nice digitsThe movie is about how the past haunts the present, that’s why the hotel is built on an Indian burial ground. It’s the forgotten violence of the past repeating in the present, boiling over at critical times. That’s what the blood gushing from the elevators represents. Jack appears in the photo at the end because he was always doomed to repeat the violence of the past.
>>215691880And it's based when it happens to faggots like King
>>215684113>Him being eternally ass blasted over changing Jack's weapon of choice from a croquet mallet to a fire axe is fucking hilarious to me still.Holy shit, that fucking croquet mallet. I'd forgotten all about that. King made sure the croquet mallet received a starring role when he made his own version of the Shining as a miniseries in 1997.
>>215681000>Jack wasn't that bad it was the ghosts who changed himYou need to be over 18 to post here, y'know.
>>215691853You can be a conservative without denying the obvious Epstein connections. People like you aren’t really conservative, you’re lemmings with no core values. You are an evil subhuman, just like anyone else who runs cover for the elites.
>>215684113>King's biggest gripes are pedantic shit he has been seething about foreverStephen King is weird like that. On the one hand he can be pretty self-aware and even self-deprecating, yet he can never quite admit that Kubrick elevated The Shining from a pulpy horror novel to an all-time classic of thriller/suspense cinema.
>>215692007He doesn't understand that adapting something means you have to make necessary changes for it to work as a film
>>215686316
>>215682127this
>>215679269I heard Stephen King went to Harvey Weinstein island???
>>215691931>Obvious Epstein connections>Like one photo where they were at the same event with every single other big shot New York business man and literally nothing else
>>215681978Literally makes filmfags seethe like you're showing
>>215692330Bookfags have been seething since the early 1900s buddy. Don't fool yourself. You people are the original bike fags and vegetarians. The OG Insufferables
>>215691931Relrase Nick Fuentes federal charges list.
>>215692025Yeah exactly. Maybe this particular story is especially personal to him considering all the seething he's done about it over the years. Seems he can let go of certain stories, like how that film version of the Long Walk totally changed his original ending but we haven't heard any seething from him about that.
>>215679555all work and no booze makes Jack a dull boy
>>215679269Probably the pedoshit.
>>215692007I think there should be an eco-tax on King's books since they clog landfills and used book stores. What a waste of trees.
>>215684091Where do you get that information about King?
>>215680486Okay but just read Pynchon or DFW or something if you want that
>>215679555There's no chemical solution to a spiritual problem
>>215680978> accidentlyHe would rant to Kidman and cruise that the world was actually run by pedophiles and that hitler did both wrong
>make people do multiple takes>THIS IS ABUSE! THIS IS HARASSMENT! THIS IS EVIL PERFECTIONISM!Uh what? If an entire shoot takes a few months, and movies are typically 80-120 minutes, why is it so demanding to do a 1 minute sequences multiple times?
>>215679269King is an admitted user of cocaine. This is an illegal substance to possess even a small quantity of, much less the truck-load that he has sniffed. The police have never bothered to lift a finger to bring him up on charges.
>>215680486>CujoI remember reading this book when I was like 8 or 9 and didn't really know much about sex and shieet and suddenly the book mentions how the mother remembers the surface of her ex's penis more than his face or something.I was like what the fuck does this mean?
Stephen King lost his ability to write when he got his by a van so hard that he quit doing coke.
>>215693820Can't blame a guy for trying
>>215681114>>215681028>>215681160Nobody ever actually testified to being abused by Clarke and he was cleared of charges.
>>215679289This.
>>215679325>Film critic Jonathan Romney writes that the film has been interpreted in many ways, including addressing the topics of the crisis in masculinity, sexism, corporate America, and racism.
>>215679620>”greatest director of all time” was really interested in “snow movie where a Jack Nicholson goes whacky”What a literal hack. Of all the amazing and jnteresting stories you can tell you get all this money and supposed talent together and make this awful, boring piece of shit.Garbo. Platoon >>>>>>>>>>> Full Meme Jacket
>>215681251Funnily enough it's not even an outlier. He posts retarded takes on a daily basis.
>>215694392What about that part where the guy she was cheating on her husband with breaks into their home and ejaculates all over their bed?
What's that one Steven King book? Set in Maine... protagonist is an alcoholic writer, there's also a kid who has magic powers...
>>215693575The big difference is that when the post modernists write shit like that is self aware and ironic, when King did it it was genuine coke fueled madness
>>215679620King doesn't hate the movie. He loves it. He only says he does because, and I quote (sort of): "When I'm making a speech in front of people or in an interview, people want to hear shocking statements, not my real but boring average take on things."Shining movie is not a faithful adaptation, but it's a great and effective movie.Anyway, King is a decent author. I like his planned books a lot more than his seat of the pants ones. His best works are his short stories and novelettes, of course.
>>215695587Everyone in maine is an alcoholic
>>215695587>protagonist is an alcoholic writerDon't forget that he used to be bullied as a kid, but his bully turned out to be GAY and had a small penis.
>>215691812>one of the biggest "we're ruled by a secret society of elite pedophiles and you have to do something" films.only if you go by the smoothbrain take on the fim
>>215679289Fpbp
>>215679645>>215679564Then how come his books sell like crazy, and has been doing so for like 40 years? Clearly he's doing something right. Respect the hustle
What's your favorite?This is some of the best stuff he has ever written ímo
>itt people hating on King because he was their parents favorite writerA tale as old as time.
>>215696013I really liked Roadwork.
>>215679635Kubrick was 100% a pedo though
>>215696169People only hate on King because he is anti trump. It’s the same with DeNiro
Besides him being a that wrote about kiddy gang bangs?
>>215696013Rage = the long walk > running man > roadwork imoi like the slow burn of rage and the tension in long walk is memorable
>>215696483How did he get a pass for that again? Why don’t police enforce laws unless it’s on poor civilians?
>>215696420I appreciate some of his books and I was really into The Dark Tower as a teenager. I don't like Stephen King as a person because I think he's a complacent boomer who fills the air with retarded, emotionally-charged opinions and never learns to shut up no matter no matter how wrong he is or how burned he gets. I know a lot of people his age like this. Alleged independent thinkers, now thoroughly boiled frogs. Lifelong democrats who are so hooked on Facebook and the news they now passionately support things they were 100% against 20 years ago.
>>215679269King gives off sanctimonious pedi vibes
Weird how people only talk about the gangbang but never about the schizo and the bully rubbing their dicks together while Beverly watches.
>>215679635Why do zoomers clutch their pearls about the sewer scene but don't care at all about the children getting horrifically murdered? Why is one okay but not the other?
>>215679269Steven King is and always has been trash. At least we have better ways to kill time than trashy novels nowadays
>>215679269Drunken, abusive, junkie, hack writer.
Reminder that for every Stephen King book, someone already wrote a better version of It, see:>Burnt Offerings > The Shining>Stinger > Under the Dome>Swan's Song > The Stand>Ghost Story > Salem's Lot>Floating Dragon > It>Hell Hound > Cujo>Jerusalem Man series > Dark Tower series
>>215696894See the Pet Semetary book too. There is a scene where the main guy is being jacked off in the bathtub by his wife and his thoughts amount to 'man those girl scouts she rolled with when she was younger really taught her how to stroke a dick'.
>>215696904Because the murder is usually not described in detail and it's much easier to compartmentalize in our heads. A fictional character was here and now he's gone. It doesn't upset you to your core like reading graphic depictions of an innocent child being raped and having their innocence stolen does. Do you see how one might be more upsetting than the other?
>>215697128>King>not describing detailed, graphic murder?
>>215697128You're full of shit. The murders are much more explicit than the sex scene, which is mostly Bev thinking of birds.
The kid getting raped by the hobo in The Library Policeman is 1000x worse than anything in his other stories, but it seldom gets mentioned. It's so graphic and detailed I genuinely think it's based on something that actually happened to King.
>>215696904they just repeat shit like npcs
>>215679269King had only written cheap slop at that time, the few nuggets of corn in his turd of a career had yet to drop.
Seriously though, why does King go out of his way to sexualize his female characters? Even children aren’t exempt from this.
>>215681251Social media has drastically lowered the amount of respect I have for so many famous people it's insane. Persons who I previously held in high regard due to their talent and achievements I now see as complete retards with zero impulse control whose success is due to a combination of nepotism, blind luck, failing upwards or just plain old fashioned taking credit for the hard work of actual talented people who they CLEARLY stole a lot of shit from. Most celebs need to hire a minder whose only job is to stop the celeb from using social media and broadcasting their brain damage to the world. But of course they can't, they're all addicted to being the centre of attention.
>>215697913He's a sick disgusting pervert
I used to be pretty dismissive of King, but GRRM Made me appreciate Stephen King's genius tbqfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR7XMkjDGw0
>>215697970I think a lot of our current cultural angst stems from social media revealing just how stupid our "elites" are outside of their specific field Of expertise. The meme of the "Trusted Expert" is dead and society hasn't caught up to that yet.
People can't stop calling King a pervert for including sexual elements in novels starring child/teen characters, but I always liked that he didn't shy away from that stuff because they made them feel more real. You can't tell me that you didn't witnesses or experience sex things that seemed fucked up while you were growing up, sexuality is scary from the perspective of a kid and I think everyone has stories like that. Maybe not literally running a train on a girl with your bros, but you get the idea.
>>215698250It’s more like people think it’s weird that, upon introducing a 15 year old girl character, he immediately expounds upon the size and bounciness of her developing breasts (and other sex stuff.)
>>215679269Would King have been so successful if he didn't look like a ghoul? It's a great image for selling horror novels.
>>215680486exactly this, reading King books is like having an old man telling you a story and backtracking to tell a different related story every few hours.
>>215696013>Walking and running and math is horror to Americans
>because of native americanskubricks fags cant even be bothered to read anything. why are kubrick fans mostly illiterate? which is ironic given how much research kubrick did before making a movie.
>>215697128>usually not described in detailwhy do people who have never read King insist on chiming in?
>>215699166SMOOOOOOTHSKIIIIN
>>215681978Books by their nature require you to fill in the visuals and you get a deeper look at the characters in the story because of internal thoughts and an occasional omniscient narrator. Most movies railroad you onto the directors vision of the story and your imagination takes a backseat.I like both and always enjoy any attempt at adaptations of things I've seen but it's very rare that you're not disappointed in some way even when the adaptation is excellent, people who complain incessantly about 'failed' adaptations online are probably this way with everything in their life.
>>215682168A lot of his adapted works are more polished true, but some just don't capture the level of filth King stoops to in books like IT. As much as the various movies and now tv series have gone for revolting scenes they're nowhere close to the things King describes in the book, it's an audience and rating issue rather than one being better than the other, you can simply do things in books you can't in movies.
>>215698250>I always liked that he didn't shy away from that stuff because they made them feel more realI like that about his writing as well, growing up is all about realizing the world contains many levels of ugliness and injustice, Kings stories feel real even when they're cheesy or pushed too far.
>>215695421SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT I'VE NEVER BEEN CONVICTED OF SHIT EITHER AND I'M ALL ABOUT THAT CUN
>>215679564Yep. King basically has one idea and one cool image in mind and then fills up his books with bullshit.Running Man always stick out as the prime example of this."Whoa cool tv show blood sports whoa crashing a plane right into the tv centre presenter while flipping him off"."Eugh like 1/3rd of the story is about black hoods eulogizing about being morally superior to crackas for not watching TV and for being the only real smarties who go to da library and make dey own air filters and masks unlike dumb whities."It's like every cringe liberal black-worshipping spiel condensed into a few pages.
>>215697128>Because the murder is usually not described in detailThough this fag deserved it and no one felt bad about him getting Pennywise'd
