like you?
>>215691601No, like this like that like this this like that (ooooh)
>>215691601>Give (You)s? Who the hell said I got to give (You)s? What law is there that say I got to give (You)s?
>>215692273kek
this is some of the finest negro acting I've seen
>>215692273>You post every day?>Yes sir>Got a catalog on your board?>Yes sir>Get bumps in your threads?>Yes sir>Why you think that is?>Cos of you, sir> Aw, hell I know it's cos of me, but why do you think that is? >Cos you reply to me?>Reply to you? I go on here every evening, bust my butt, putting up with them redditors every night cause I give (You)s? You about the biggest retard I ever saw.
you're a big guy
>>215692273>>215692512you whiteboys are alright
>>215692549>For you?
This encapsulates the boomer mindset. In their minds, as long as they committed to their base duties everything else is justified. You can be an unwarranted egotistical prick but, because you provide for your family, you're a great parent.
>>215691601Comparing Denzel's performance to this always makes me kekhttps://youtu.be/UBTXS42dj40?si=LANG7I3X8ye7LIRz
>>215693161He's just not intimidating the way Jones is.
>>215692512>you think janny does it for free because he likes this board?
>>215693083Yeah this is true. If I had a kid and I didn't even like him I'd blame myself
>>215693083My Dad barely did that and would literally moan about having to do basic parental shit once in a blue moon. Now as an adult he still believes he should be some important person in my life and I should think of him that way.
>>215693516>>215693083>Literally slaved away to give you a good life>DADDY WASN'T THERE FOR ME
>>215693539why are you writing fanfiction for people you don't know?
>>215693539Why even have kids if you aren't going to be at least a little interested in them?
>>215693553Maybe the kid was an accident and he's too proud to admit it and he always had different plans in life until that moment.
>>215693567This is why I'm pro-choice
>>215693539>does the bare minimum >WORLDS BEST DAD
>>215693579>>does the bare minimum Working 9-5, or maybe even 7-8, how's that the bare minimum? Not to mention the odd chore around the house like fixing something that neither the wife or kid know how to.>>WORLDS BEST DADI don't think that's what they're going for.
>>215693083I still think it's Great Depression generational trauma. A father who could put food on the table and keep the house from falling apart was the pinnacle of masculinity for a good decade, and it permanently altered the psyche of everyone who was touched by it or the people who suffered through it. You don't really see this in other countries because of how economic depression manifested entirely differently.
>>215693539except that wasn't the case at all. My Dad had a decent paying job and would skimp on everything possible and resented having to spend any money on us at all. He would only have us over one night a week, despite the fact he literally did nothing all other nights of the week and had no friends. When we were over he had virtually zero interest in us. The only time he'd feign interest was when his parents came over and he'd act like he really liked us. I also found out later on that he lied to his parents about why he wasn't more involved in our lives. Saying it was my mother who kept us from him. When I literally witnessed him saying multiple times as a kid saying he wouldn't have us more than one night a week. Dude was just a deadbeat piece of shit
>>215693083This is 100x better than millenial parenting
>>215693628There are bad dads, yes, but some dads actively fought with themselves. They wanted to slack off at work or quit their job. They wanted to do a bunch of things but didn't just to keep the family fed.
>>215693665No it isn't
>>215693683This was the issue you sacrificied a part of the family for what?The illusion of a provider on a gibs economy, your boss and trust me on this, will always say and it will be true, that he got the job because he had a family
>>215693619nah, boomer dad mindset is quite universal, although my dad for one was not guilty of that, although my wife's dad still is.
>>215693539>immediately invents an imaginary "hardworking perfect provider father" character
>>215693083>because you provide for your family, you're a great parent.This but unironically. Cope, seethe and dilate you Labubu hoarding tranny.
>>215693726I literally never said any dad was perfect -- but a lot of them do a job they don't want to when they would rather be hiding in a hole and drinking a cold beer.
>>215693696Millenial parenting is just "give annoying kid IPad so it stops bothering me". And then yall wonder why so many young people are internet addicted trannies/incels.
>>215692337I saw the Denzel version first, and it was better.
>>215693762That's how everyone fucking feels idiot. If you bring a life into this world and have no interest in its cultivation into a happy and complete person you are the worst kind of lazy
>have a child aka force a new being into existence for your own selfish pleasure and desires when LITERALLY no one forced you to>WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU GRATEFULL FOR HAVING TO EXIST FOR 80 YEARS
>>215693835CRAAAAAAAAWLIIIIIIIMG IIIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIN
>>215691601NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA…IM 100% NIGGA
>>215693789Denzel played it like it was Sanford and Son
>>215693765>yall
>>215693083This is good parenting, though. Not great but good, better than whatever them single mothers be doing.
>>215693789denzel was shuckin and jivin throughout. Jones played it like he was mad as hell yet also infinitely more loving toward his son
>>215691601reminds me of that old german gif of that guy flopping his fake metal cock about
>>215694443That is literally the base requirement for being a parent. Failing to meet that standard is definition of bad parenting.
>>215691601he sounds like a dad who wanted to run away but didn't
>>215694960You don't understand the scene, do you? The point is that the son is asking him something insultingly outrageous, insinuating that he doesn't love his son everyday and wants the best for him.He is answering in a way that the son will remember decades from now, long after his father is gone, and appreciates it even more with wisdom and experience that comes with age.
>>215695024In the play the father is abhorrent, he actively sabotages the son out of spite for his own failure.
>>215694944No, the base requirement for being a parent is giving birth to a child or two or more. Doing nothing more than providing food and shelter is good because it teaches them independence from early on.
>>215693755Great parenting goes beyond just providing. Intellectually lazy parents love to congratulate themselves for doing the bare minimum. Then they act surprised when their kids resent them for condemning them to a mediocre life.
>>215695067It’s called nuance esl. Not everyone is perfect. In fact they are far from it. Like how you still live with your mom at your age.
Why even have kids if you aren't gonna like them
>>215693083Unironically yes. When a parent busts their ass so you can have it easy they deserve to be a prick. They've got all the bullshit on their back while you're riding high. Once they're gone and you've got to do it all yourself you realize how good they made it for you. You suddenly realize how unappreciative your ass really was. You wish you could have thanked them more, and now you cant
>doing the bare minimum of a father is "good parenting" to /tv/who would have guessed the lonely young misanthropes of this board would have a warped perception of fatherhood? really makes you think...
>>215695068We can argue semantics and definitions all day but if "giving birth to a child or two" is all you do as parent then you're a terrible parent. I wouldn't address you as parent because that would imply a modicum of respect.
>>215695095>mediocre life.99.9% of kids on Earth wish they can have 'mediocre life'. You are just some spoiled western faggot.
>>215695165Evil parents are parents too.
>>215695107Oh ok sorry.
>>215695159I'm sorry what did daddy not do for you? You cried because he yelled at you or something? Is that why you cut off your dick?
>>215695122because you had sex
>>215695364point proven
Could be worse, dad/step-dad could have raped you
>>215695309Is that why you're all trying to move here? You fiercely covet what we consider status quo lmao. There is lesson here; you simply need to reflect upon the subject.
>>215695459>trying to move hereWe are already here lmao faggot get cucked.
>>215691601>like jew?what did he mean by that?
>>215695622Trust me, we know. Your exceptionalism for the unremarkable hasn't gone unnoticed.
>>215695840Sure sure, back to your wage cage, my rent won't pay itself.
>>215692512>It's my job. It's my responsibility. A janny is supposed to take care of his board.>You post in my thread>Fill your loli folder with my pics>get (you)s on my board because you're a fren>not because I likes you, it's because it's my duty to keep this board clean>I owe a responsibility to the mods>now let's get this straight before I go along any further>I ain't gotta ban you>Hiroshimoot don't give me my pay because he rike me, he don't give it to me because I do it for free
>>215693789Denzel would be an alltime great if he didn't always suddenly whip out that smug Denzel side smile and turn anything into a Training Day car scene. He'll be doing a great job and then suddenly>tilt head slightly sideways>biggest smile that goes 70% to one side>smug comment or chuckleyou know what I mean if you've seen some of his movies
>>215692273He's literally me
>>215697388This is very true
>>215693083my dad provided for us but never showed affection to my mom around us, so i was lead to believe a husband/father meant being a solid provider and protector, but never showing emotions. and now i struggle with relationships because the girls i date want me to kiss them and say pretty things to them and make them feel good and give them attention, which i struggle to do
>>215693083The father isn't presented in a 100% positive light, is he? And while it's written by boomers, Jones' character is from the silent generation, seeing as it's set in the 50's.
>>215693577You'd rather die than have a disinterested father?You'd rather kill a child than raise him?
>>215698407Get off the soapbox for five minutes.
>>215697273>Hiroshimoot don't give me my pay because he rike me, he don't give it to me because I do it for freekek
>>215696265The parasite reveals itself for what it is
>>215698543Say what you mean and mean what you say
>>215695144This might as a shocker but you can do all those things without being a prick about it.
damn! glad I got lovin parents. >>215692273>>215692512yep. this is why I stick around. every time I think I'm done, somehow I end up coming back
>>215697388>Triggered by a man's idiosyncrasies Y'all whitebois be inventing new ways to hate on a nigga You're 100% on point thougheverbeit
No....you LOOOOVE ME!
>>215693083You have to cut them a break. Being a parent is a hard job, few are truly equipped to handle it
>>215693789The audience laughing in the Denzel scene kills it
>>215693835>HAVING TO EXISTAnon the game exit button is available to you at any time, you don't have to keep playing. Why are anti-natalists so fucking stupid? Shoot a politican too while you're at it too, do something useful for once on your way out.
>>215700058>there being no objective standard for right and wrong means nothing matters and you should just be okay with dyingthanks for reminding me of this gigapseud scene
>>215700239No it's more retarded than that, what you described at least logically follow even if it's retarded, anti-natalists are literally>life includes suffering therefore it's morally wrong, but i won't kill myself or other people for that matter because uhhhh i just won't okay?
>>215700058>>215700298how come you obsessive types never seem to give much of a shit about the actual children after they come out of the womb?
>>215692075UHH BASED DEPARTMENT??? WE GOTTA LIVE ONE!!
>>215697273
>>215693539If your daddy wasn't there for you, it was not a good life by default
>decide to marry and have kids>now you have to get to a job >go to work>WOAH BEST DAD EVER
>>215693608>Working 9-5, or maybe even 7-8, how's that the bare minimum? That's quite literally that most people do, bruh. I don't have any children but I still have to work. It is the bare minimum.
>>215693619Bro the Great Depression predates boomers
>>215693765Millenials are too young to have incel children you moron.
>>215695122Because it's the normal thing that your relatives, friends and society expects from you. If you don't want to be considered weird you need to find a partner and shit out a coupe of kids.
Stuff like this only reminds me of why poor people should never reproduce. Its admirable that he worked hard to provide for his family, but his anger stems from the fact that he chose a life he can barely maintain and has to slave for, which is having a family as a peasant.
>>215700852BETA
>>215700852sorry anon, im >>215701300 retarded and misread your post as it WAS a good life by default. good day to you
>all these anons who have bad relationships with there dad's.>my dad is my best friend. I'm sorry anons. That sucks. A good father/son relationship is literally one of the most fulfilling thing you can ever have in your life.
>>215691601Who was in the wrong here?
WHAT LAW SAYS I HAVE TO LOVE YOU
>>215695122My dad was a massive prick to me and did a lot of shitty things with the excuse of I’m doing it for all you. Didn’t really care when he died since any conversation with him was always him being argumentative for no reason.
>>215691601People in the comments of this vid were all like "omg tough love wholesome" but that's really not the impression I got from this monologue, the boy is scared shitless. Amazing acting by both by the way.
>>215703753It is most certainly not "tough love", Troy is a horrible person in Fences and not any kind of role model. Even when devoid of context and only watching the scene in isolation, he's unnecessarily harsh and and intimidating in the scene, blunting any kind of life lesson he might he trying to impart, and equating fear with respect.
Even though my dad bullied and molested me for years, I still have a huge desire for paternal approval, often to my detriment. Why is the father wound so profound?
>>215703753It's clear that they never saw the full play. If they did, they would 100% change their tune.
>>215704135I would hug you if I could.
>>215693161I feel like he's trying to be serious but the audience thinks it's funny
luke im your father noooo haha
do literally anything with a father talking to his son and the 4chan teenagers wee like its the greatest masterpiece of all time. basic bitch shit
>>215703753>reading the comments
>>215706137What is your specific problem with either Fences or this particular production of Fences?
>>215694602True.
>>215698407No to both, but if you're talking about something that has no will and can't scream or cry it's probably better to kill it than allow it to become a complete person if its parents are going to be extremely shitty for any reason
>>215691601I love this scene because during Earl's "You got this don't you" he can so easily just say, I do all of this because I love you, and yet hes still such a piece of shit that he has to say BECAUSE ITS MAH RESPONSIBILITY TOO! and it really sends the character home
Do some fathers really make their sons call them "sir"?
>>215706703None that I've seen.I assume it's unique to the minority of law abiding blacks in the ghettos. A mixture of the culture that promotes respect killings and disdain for that very same culture that causes one to make an honest living.So a fiercely hardened demeanor along with a total lack of rationality.It's not necessarily a bad thing, just unpleasant.
>>215701232There should be levels of competency for everything. That's how we evolve society. But it'll never happen. In order to drive, something that affects people's lives that aren't your own, you need to take a written and behind-the-wheel test. In order to vote, something that affects people's lives that aren't your own, you don't need to take a test. You just show up. In order to have children, something that affects people's lives, you just get your nut off in some woman.Needs to be a test and registry for people who can vote, have children, etc. You cannot have children if you aren't above 105iq. Boom. Saved the future from taking care of a bunch of homeless people and drug addicts and prisoners.
>>215706775>>I assume it's unique to the minority of law abiding blacksMost certainly not. It's more of a boomer thing, especially from military families but exported out to certain "types" of father.
>>215701454I wish I had a real relationship with my father.I don't want to blogpost but essentially he hated his job and was always irritable (not in an abusive way) because of it so that made me not want to be around him as a kid in order not to not set him off. It was like that most of my life with him. Never really knew how to approach him about anything.He died of cancer when I was 21 and I've only come to realize these last few years that I never really actually got to know the real him as a person, he was just "my dad," if that makes any sense.
>>215706681He's trying to teach him not to be so insecure and desperate for approval
>>215705325in the jones version you can actually hear people in the audience laugh as well
>>215706643My cows don't like them
>>215701156Not him, but the kids who grew up during the great depression were the ones who birthed the boomers. Pretty sure it would impact your parenting style/perceptions of fatherhood. They also fought in a world war in-between those two things. Like it was saud, that shit has gad lasting generational impact.
>>215700239Huh?
>>215691601>Like you? Hell, boy, I love ya! Come here and give your old man a hug!
>>215695122we're supposed to continually have children because...erm, humanity le good or something
>>215708893This but unironically
>>215691601Short answer: no.
>>215709003And then Americans go and bomb a country.
>>215693567Ok so if thats the case why would the kid care about the parent?
>>215708870>Didn't that play used to have an affair in it?
black people know their fathers? that's an old sketch.
>>215706148OP image is from a specific YT video featuring this scene.
>>215709816and? what is the issue?
My dad was a good man but fucked everything up by gambling. I think he just wanted to feel alive for awhile on refection, I was spoiled rotten as a kid but resented him as a snotty punk teen for fucking up our family/divorce etc. I got to know him later luckily and i still love him even though he worked himself too hard and died of a heart attack.I'm going to try not make that mistake with my kid, actually be around for them, fuck working 'hard' to buy a little motorized jeep for their birthday like i got and a bitch wife (my mother) wanting to move all the time for trivial reasons, i'd trade 100 expensive toys like that for more time with my dad.
>>215708893having (white) children means a part of you lives on and that is a beautiful thing.But sure, let's just leave the planet for the niggers, chinks and Jeet's. solid logic there.
>>215703174What law says i have to show up to your deathbed?
>>215710282I bet good money that you're unmarried and childless.
>>215697273>because he rike melel
>>215706703starts early with demanding respect despite having some emotional difference and then you never really lose the habit
>>215710091That's your taxes flying away from you.
>>215710661Good, that's a cool ass use of my taxes and far more valid than feeding some welfare queen who will get shot over nikes instead of getting shot over petrodollars
>>215710672Yeah, whatever, go choke on fent.
>>215693083>t. their greatest and WWI fighting generation parents with great excuse to be all thatIt's a vulnerable narcissist - which every boomer is - stolen valor act— that's what makes Firest Gump so insipid. They miscarried the Space Race and squandered The Cold War and 'peace dividend'. But these John Wayne hippie Civil Rights bipolar moral pinko paragons are heroes in their own godless Shopping Mall Regime minds THE maincharacters (and of your lives, and your children's lives too).
>>215710745Schizo babble.
you're supposed to make good memories with your kids. simply just going to work so they can continue to exist, never giving them any kind of affection or whatever just means they'll likely pass that shit on to their own kids. it also means that they'll have no problem abandoning you when you're old and feeble and need care because you can't make it to the toilet without shitting yourself and your mind is turning into paste. "waaah my kids don't pick up the phone and even call me anymore after I did my 9-5 for them and told them i didn't really like them!". yeah no shit you old cunt lmao
>>215710745this is what bothers me most about boomers. It's not the decadence or consumption as much as it is the extreme level of self importance. Every boomer in my family acts as if they are the most important person in the world and everyone is thinking about them 24/7. they insert themselves in situations they weren't invited into and voice their opinions when nobody asked because they can't conceive that there are situations in life where they aren't the centrepiece. Then when you put up boundaries they'll claim that you're "selfish"
>>215710672Behold, the useful idiot. You don't even have to trick him, he'll just make up a scenario for himself.
>>215710745>>215710839Gonna cry because your dad didn't like you?
>>215700623>you want people to not murder babies and yet you also want those same people to take responsibility for their actions, curious!
if life is such a miserable burden why have kids? >I gave you a life so now you have the privilege of continuing my cycle of misery I reinforce with my dogshit outlook on life that I beat you over the head with
>>215711606Because it only becomes a miserable burden when you have kids
>>215691601>Them crackas be keepin me down niggahWhy is this guy beloved again?
>>215708893Yes. What are you a cuck?>>215709816Yes. Do something about it bitch boy
>>215711643it becomes a miserable burden when you have miserable parents who act like your existence they created out of their miserable free will is a miserable burden
>>215711706Go cry to Icthyostega then you faggot liberal, everything suffers>ooooooooooh if only my parents were happy then I could be happy tooooo I have no free will QQQQQQQQQQ
>>215711731how on earth is my statement political?
>>215707007I know that feelI could never open up to my father or be honest with him for the exact same reason. I think it's a big part of why I dont like sharing about myself as an adult. It didnt help that he was a drunk. He died when I was 22 and I went through the same realization. A child should never fear his father.
>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY INTEREST IN MY SON NOOO DON'T MAKE ME LIKE HIM I WANT TO GO WORK ALL DAY THEN SIT ON MY LAZYBOY AND WATCH RANDOM BULLSHIT AND EAT TV DINNER THEN GO TO BED NOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TIME WITH HIM AND SHARE IN HIS INTERESTS NOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS WORSE THAN WW2
>>215691601I talked to Barzini.
>>215693176It’s different. In the movie, Denzel is shown more of a fucking prick. You can tell he doesn’t believe what he says here and doesn’t give an actual shit. The play had you gliefenthat newsman’s akskdjdsj
>>215704135I think it's because having your father's love and warmth, when men are usually not like that at all and in fact usually have to be the opposite of that in order to provide for the family, is a big deal. It means that you're important enough to warrant those things from him. With women, especially moms, their warmth and love and tenderness is a given. A maternal figure will always be there to dot on you no matter if you're a little faggot. Getting that from a man, your father, means you're special. You're not like everyone else - you're HIS child. He loves you and wants to be near you, to spend time with you. You're not some annoying burden. He will protect and cherish you.If you don't get that from your dad, you inherently start to believe you are not special and perhaps not even worthy of warmth and love and care and closeness, and / or that you're annoying and not interesting.Does that sound right?
>>215714742Hit the nail on the head. I'm >>215707007 and that's exactly how I turned out. I'm reclusive, unintimate and feel like I bother everyone.
>>215691601*Booming voice* NIGGA
>>215698140>the girls i date want me to kiss them and say pretty things to them and make them feel good and give them attention, which i struggle to doJust date guys instead
>>215692512>>215697273
>>215714861That's what tomboys are (were) for.
>>215714861i dont like penises and i had to get my butthole removed due to illness so gay sex isnt an option