Continuity Error EditionPrevious: >>215928685
What do they do all day? Zosza shows they're "content" being stranded in the middle of nowhere doing nothing.
>>215934916it's my right to be miserable
>>215934938If they can't feel you in the hivemind, then they would check on you to see if you're dead after it happens.
>>215934916Where's the error ?
>the hivemind does everything i want im going insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>215934916Don't forget the baby carrier that has no baby in it in the next shot in the first episode.
>>215934967Zosia makes a tiny little break in one window when she throws the grenade, and then in the next scene three windows are visibly destroyed
CHINGA TU MADRE, CABRON
>>215934987yea that's because a FUCKING GRENADE JUST EXPLODED
>>215934987crazy, where did all that fire come from too? it looked dark from inside, bravo vince
This thread is what Helen would want.
Mid ass episode
>>215934954I was wondering the same thing. Instead of them arriving randomly to restock the store it would have been funnier if one of the trucks was just tons of them packed like merchandise. Also, I'd be curious if they intend of keeping the human race alive at all. They have the no kill rule, what about reproduction?
>>215935103Carol clearly says it's a fake grenade
>>215935104California has wildfire all the time, probably came in while they were filming and they couldn't edit it out in time.
>the joining and carol's two triggerings roughly shaved off one billion of the planet>you can consensually fuck any famous person you want>but every famous person now has a 1 in 8 chance of being alive in this worldname someone, do a dice+8if you get 8 then they're dead, sorry
>>215935138*1 and 8 chance of being dead, fuck
What would you do with 7 billion servants?
I hope Carol gets some character growth. I can't stand her bitching for much longer>>215934987Maybe because the explosion broke them?
>>215935180I’d come inside of many male asses and ask questions about secrets like a definitive list of which female authors Gordon Lish fucked
>>215934916this is hot
>>215935189According to the next episodes' synopsis, there is a chance we'll have some growth. Or at least she'll face some adversity.
>>215934916Where does he fit in all this?
What did the Paraguayan say on the phone?
>>215935180Space exploration, sexual slavery, hivemind art, the possibilities are endless.
>>215935138Can it be ANY celeb?
>Bravo Vince doesn’t write or direct the episode>Immediate and precipitous drop-off in qualityWhy is every show like this now?
>>215935110Carol would seriously love the threads today because they’re nothing but bitching and negativity.
>Carol tests the boundaries of this weirdly honest world at the expense of her ego.Next episode it looks like she's dropping all the bitching and it'll probably end with her discovering something about the hivemind, maybe something they dont want her to know
>>215935234Refilling Carol's Xanax bottles.
>>215935236>no me jodan mas"Stop fucking with me"
This is fucking awful. White woman standing up and lecturing a variety of random ethnicities how they are meant to save the world is so far beyond whatever could be deemed on the nose.
>>215935251Because vince doesn't write or direct them
>>215935224She’s going to confront it with another dilemma, like the nuke question, by asking it to be mean to her or something
>they cast a pole to play a moroccan umm, problematic
>>215935286Oops, forgot the call is longer>no me jodan mas, dejenme en paz hijos de putasSecond part he just says "leave me alone you sons of bitches"
>>215935284>Carol has a personal pharmacy that dispenses unlimited narcotics
>>215935290I don’t see how you can hate from outside the plurb
>>215935321The slavs, cornish and irish can be surprisingly swarthy.
>>215935286>>215935322Thanks anonIf there were subtitles, I never saw em
>>215935216why wasn't he metoo'd?
Can Zosia get pregnant by sitting on a toilet seat?
>>215935387She would if she sat on mine.
what if the hivemind somehow splits into two minds with opposing ideas and they wage the most organized war in the history of ever
>>215935138I wouldn't think about sexI would think about how it's every person on the planet and therefore I can get honest answers to every conspiracy theory everI could ask them who really killed Jack Kennedy or what happened to Jimmy Hoffa and shit
Id fuck celebs like the rest of you but I’d make their husbands watch.
>>215935414>How many was it?>Six million, sir>No seriously. How many was it?
>>215935387Yes.Me. I am her toilet seat.
>>215935420Wouldn't they be watching anyway because of the hive mind shit?
>>215935414You could ask all kinds of shit. Like if your ex cheated on you. Or if you ever had a chance with your one-itis back in 10th grade. Then you get them to fly in and scissor each other. Seems like a pretty good time
>>215935411Imagine the logistics and battle tactics, opsec and sigint would put any human effort to shame.
>>215934916>Clever enough to send a female pirate model lookalike but not clever enough to understand sarcasm. It kind of is a continuity error.
>>215934916AY PUTO
>>215935452I wanna see them watch
>>215935480The hivemind possesses the sum total of autism in the world. It's a miracle they can make eye contact with people.
>>215934916>Hole in window where Zosia threw the grenade.>Grenade explodes outside, all windows and blinds destroyed in next scene.No shit there's no hole in the window, there's no window left. Having thrown a few grenades myself, the destruction outside is correct, but all the little fires in the rock garden are wrong. The truck is correct, but the tires would be flat on the left side. At least one would be.
>>215935480They were aware that it very likely was sarcasm, but they still wanted to appease her. Did you not listen to the dialog?
>>215935358My best guess is just nobody regretted it because he’s a skilled lover and gives good writing advice
What about bdsm? Say number 13 is a dungeon master and derives pleasure from bdsm, does the hivemind have a moral compass or is it simply a matter of black and white.
>>215935440Wait. What's the conspiracy here?
hope paraguay guy gets his hands on nukes
>>215935515My point isn't how there is no window left, it's that it only had a small hole in it from where she broke it, but in the next scene there a 3 windows totally broken.
>>215935527This is my guess for where ep 4 will go, and it will cause more processing errors like when she asked for a nuke. But also because they are weirdly honest (per the synopsis) they will damage her ego
>>215935550are you autistic?
>here's the next important plot thing, his name is Manousos. >We're not gonna get to that though because we have to pretend to be a slow-boil kino so here's some fake pacing slop >(it's a rehash of the premise from the first two episodes but Carol forgot so she gets to have these revelations again)
>>215935550You will not bait me
>>215935480Sending over someone who happens to look like a pirate she wrote about because she might like them instead of thinking logically and sending over a friend or family member is already a bit weird
>>215935550That is usually what happens to windows when a grenade detonates five feet away from them, yes.Zosia has skinny little arms. I'm surprised she managed to throw it that far.Here, template for my joke. Use it as you like.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed how improbable the "grenade" scene is, imagine the chances of a fake grenade bouncing just right to hit the engine of a car and make it explode, HIGHLY unlikely.
>>215935598>But also because they are weirdly honest (per the synopsis) they will damage her egoMaybe she asks them to read her serious novel.
>>215935550What do you expect to happen to residential windows when a grenade goes off 10ft away? Even just a high explosive charge of that size would certainly blow those windows out let alone all the shrapnel that grenade would have generated.
>>215935621it was a fake grenade though as mentioned by carol herself
>>215935633ooo i can see that
>>215935516It's more than likely she would be very unhappy if she was being sarcastic about the grenade. It's not like she was being sarcastic about what flavor of carmel popcorn she wanted and said hot dog flavored. Because hot dog flavor wouldn't blow her head off. So yeah the math doesn't check out.
>>215935646I don't think Carol is a reliable expert in her appraisal of Zosia's grenade. She's drunk, and a writer, and a woman.Not the most reliable judge of things she has no experience with.
Post cute Rheas
>>215935684Doesn't matter if she is drunk, doesn't change the fact it was fake, vince expects the viewers to believe it would bounce just right to hit the engine of the car causing it to explode, ridiculous
I remember seeing something about how if humans disappeared for even a minute that lack of oversight would be enough to cause nuclear meltdowns and shitAnd yet the joining thing last a whole half-hour before they wake up and nothing significant happens
>>215935701Zosia clearly drew on the experience of millions of baseball players who were all experts at throwing round heavy objects and whipped that fake grenade so hard into the truck engine that the sheer velocity caused the engine to blow up.Catch up, noob. This was clear to even casual viewers.
Why didn't Zosia just eat the grenade?
>>215935620>thinking logically and sending over a friend or family member is already a bit weirdGiven Carol's reluctance and anger, the logical conclusion is that she would hate to see any friend of family turned into that. Choosing a stranger was the best solution for her case.
>>215935755Imagine head from Zosia
>>215935216>>215935358>>215935517he is jewish
>>215935620She HAS NO family or friends. That's the point. Only her dead lover. It's the reason her being a dyke works better than not in this specific case for the show. It saves a lot of needles off the central plot hand wringing. I'm still not buying the turbo autism though. It's the sloppiest piece of writing in the whole show. But I'm sure they felt they needed it as an excuse to bring a nuke into the conversation for the show.
>>215935665>It's more than likely she would be very unhappyGood point, they know what happened last time she was unhappy.
>>215935761It would have killed her buzz
I see how the Plurbs would be so confused>Carol asks for a hand grenade>You give her one and she uses it>Now all of a sudden she’s mad at you for obeying her request?
>>215935189her life partner died in front her during a black swan event of a very unusual and haphazard alien invasion, she's one of thirteen survivors not black boxed within an alien hivemindshe's very likely in shock, its amazing shes keeping it together at all
>>215935767this is what i think too. also people say Carol only hates the hive because it killed her girlfriend but i think she would hate it even if Helen was still alive.this is why Carol is based.
>>215935830>alien invasionDid you even watch the helpful broadcast?
What if one of the non infected was a serial pedophile rapist? Would the hivemind let him rape a bunch of children hiveminders because its goal is to keep the pedo happy?I hope Vince has answers to all these important questions
I get the ChatGPT comparisons more after this episode, the friendly but patronizing tone was exactly the same.However it's really stupid that Carol only now realizes her unlimited power after seeing the shit french guy was up to. I guess she's barely had time to process it all.
>be me, in Pluribus, immune>after a few days of motorboating Brittany Venti and Abby Shapiro, get bored>"ok here's what would make me happy, I want every nigger to line up on my front lawn so I can tell them exactly what I think of them">"Anon, you can just tell one of us, and-">"I WANT ALL OF THEM.">They co-operate to please me>a few moments later, everyone is having seizures, and I haven't even gotten halfway through the Aarons.>I wait so they can recover>"ok now I want a 12 ft. Hobart oven, and bring me the Jews">"Anon, you're going to kill us all.">Joker happy voice, "I know. How about another joke Murray?"
>>215935884i did not
>>215935852>i think she would hate it even if Helen was still alive.Agreed, the initial scene where she hates how all her fans love her stuff is useless in E01 but it does show she hates general consensus and people in general.
>>215935919she hates people but also wants them to be free from the hivemind
Watching a miserable lesbian for hours is really testing my patience.I need more of the sex pest guy.
This episode was my favorite so far it was really funny
>>215934939They play one of those resource management games except irlAnd do the whole research on how to cure immunes
rhea has visibily aged from BCS and she was already like 50 then. you just cant stop the train of time can you
>>215935962We need a parallel storyline that’s the Wycaro novels but played completely straight. This episode was so thin it couldn’t even reach a streaming runtime.
>>215935962Diabaté was really fun. I don't know why they ended episode 2 that way if she's not going to be on Air Sex One and totally absent from episode 3.
How did she know Carol was looking at her ?
>>215921036We can make that now actually, we just choose not to.
>>215935944She's super flawed but not evil. I would end up not caring about the show and dropping it if she was truly evil but she's not. She's just an annoying bitch.
>>215936018they're always watching her
>>215935990>trying to play sim city + pandemic 2>carol won't stop fucking around and keeps hitting you with popups every 5 minutesbleak
The autistic hivemind is the most relatable character I've seen in years.
>>215936028How ?
>>215936013>>215936015Maybe we start at the airforceone where it stopped the last time in the next episode.seems like they are time jumping
>>215934916I went back and scrutinized episode 1 more closely because the pacing felt so fucky. basically every scene is suspiciously close to being increments of 5 minutes, obviously rounding out the differences and including some scene transitions.I'm too lazy to write detailed synopsis, but:>E01 - 55m runtime>5m - Radio signal and breeding virus>5m - Carol's book signing shit>10m - Virus inception and spread at secure lab>10m - Bar socializing scene and virus attack>5m - Carol rushing to get Helen to hospital>5m - Carol leaving hospital and returning home>15m - Barricading home and establishing contact with hivemindthis show must have really went through development hell if it's THIS formulaic, holy shit. especially with how fucking boring ep 3 is.
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>>215935180First and foremost I'd get the answers to a shitton of questions.What exactly happened when JFK was assassinated? Where is Hoffa? Have we ever encountered aliens or anything supernatural?You can get the answer to all the big questions, as long as just one person alive knows the answer. And you could get very personal. What did X think of Y? Whatever happened to that one person I met that one time? After that I'd probably ask for some models or famous actresses and then just have some orgies.
are all the unborn fetuses effected toowill pregnant plurbs give birth to babies already in the hivemind?
>>215935977Rare opinion. I don't agree with it but I'll allow it.
>>215936058You seem unfamiliar with how Apple TV structures their shows. Nothing will happen, plotlines will be forgotten, scenes will crawl for way too long, season 6 will be announced to finally answer stuff from S01E01.
>>215936043Maybe there's cameras that the pilots can see the cabin
>>215936085In the same vein, They will intentionally leave scenes out so they can do a flashback in future episodes to fill out time (Like the missing time between the end of ep2 and beginning of ep 3)
>>215936075I was wondering how babies would act.Are their brains so developed that they be an equal part of the hivemind? That would be creepy as fuck, a silent intelligent baby.
this show is just gilligans plan for how everyone in the world can date rhea seehorn all at once.
>Air Force One>IT WAS available to anyone who askedExcept there are actually MULTIPLE versions of that exact plane, they literally send two of them up when the president flies so no one knows which one he's on, so what she should really have said is that there are others available for Carol if she wants one
>>215935310>Carol is going to confirm whether the hivemind would be willing to fulfill dom fetish fantasiesBased white lesbo
>>215936108there's no cameras on planes, lest it cause electrical infetterence
>>215936109>In the same vein, They will intentionally leave scenes out so they can do a flashback in future episodes to fill out timeGod I fucking hate this. It's extremely typical of JJ Abrams and Apple to skip stuff because they can't write a compeling narrative so they just skip information we should know to artificially fabricate a narrative.
>>215936066It might be that a lot of people would have been exposed to cover stories and believed them to be true. So you would be back to the same square one of only having subjective possibilities instead of objectively definitive answers.
>>215936129>they literally send two of them up when the president flies so no one knows which one he's onWhat if he asks for a sandwich or something, how would they know which plane to deliver it too ?
>>215936043planes have cameras
>>215936134People can use phones on planes they have cameras
>>215936059This feels like something that would get a brief run on FOX and sandwiched in between two more popular shows.
>>215934916>woman scientist is responsible for the end of humanityhow did vince get away with this?
>>215935110I TOLD YOU TO FORGET ABOUT HER
>>215935889Unironically would probably cause less damage to the hivemind's body puppets than Carol's bitching did
>>215936134yes there are
Man the product placement is really getting on my nerves.Maybe I just don't watch enough TV, is this normal?Feels like every other scene has an ad.
>>215935132not sure if you're trolling but this is very obviously filmed in new mexico
>>215936075I wonder how old the people even need to be before the hivemind decides they're good enough to go doing whatever work is needed>oh look, this one can walk at last, into the mines with you
>>215936059No need to spoiler, but nice work. On my watch, it did seem that some scenes were way too long for what they wanted to achieve. If someone is dictacting a 5 min measure then we're guarranted not to get efficient writing.
>>215935515I always wonder when there's a movie explosion with little fires everywhere like that, what the fuck is that supposed to be?
>>215936236It's very clearly filmed in Norway, hence the aurora borealis
>emotions from a non connected person cause millions of people to dieThis makes absolutely no sense at all.
>>215936265what surprised me honestly is that they were only 5 minutes. the book signing scene felt like 10-15 minutes with how slow and boring it was
>>215935897Everything based except for the two sluts at the front
>>215936206I don't mind having the Sprouts scene but it really shouldn't have taken more than two minutes. Felt like they lingered a lot showing all the food and her shopping around
>>215936206I don't remember any products unless you mean the hand grenade? I didn't notice what brand it was.
why didn't he cure her pluribus so she could get her green card?
>>215936279ha ha very funny anon you know sets exist
>>215936287It doesn't cause them to die, it makes them spazz out. They only die if they fall over and crack their heads or are doing something dangerous.
>>215936145Sure.But then the hivemind's answer would be something like "there are seven high-ranking officers who have all been told X. We don't know if what they were told was wrong, but X remembers their dad getting an upsetting call that same night, and Y saw a trunk that Z knows belongs to the CIA drive past 10 minutes later, so it seems to validate their story."You might as well ask, doesn't seem like the hivemind gives a shit about protecting the secrets of humanity.
>>215935334Megakek I'm stealing this
>>215936206The product placement felt organic and not forced at least. It's not like they had billionaire Bruce Wayne drive a Jeep Compass through an exploding Metropolis.
>>215936287Just think of Carol as a chud and the hivemind as a bunch of Redditors, except the hivemind isn't allowed to ban her and is forced to listen to her,Then it all makes sense.
>>215936297The camera also lingered on the Golden Girls DVD cover a bit too long.
>>215936309You think they made the aurora borealis in new mexico, that would cost trillions, much easier to just go to norway.
shits boring. we gonna get a walter cameo soon?
>>215936340ok we get it you're pretending cgi doesn't exist
>>215936292If you had asked, I would also have said it was 15 minutes, the bar scene also felt extremely long for what it needed to communicate. Now I sort of feel like going back on other Apple shows. Silo, From and See also had weird pacing and this way of measuring scenes is neat. They cut or lenghten scenes for seemingly no reason (no, I don't care if this scene will be paid off in four seasons).
I thought she just wanted some sprouts, but they brought a whole store full of stuff?
>>215936066>hivemind tell me everyone in epstein's list>good now bring them all here in front of me>my final request is an assult rifle and spare ammo
>>215936347Well it would have to be in flashback, could be something to do with Grey Matter Tech, we'll see
>>215936059Yeah, there is something seriously wrong with the way the show is put together. I rarely do this, but in episode 1 of a show I was excited to watch I skipped forward through the book club shit because it was just dragging when I got the point: it's a trashy romance novel.
>>215936319A very Chat GPT like answer. With the same possibility of hallucinations from being fed faulty or bad data.
>>215935744>nothing significant happensa billion people died
>>215936354The credits explicitly state>made by humanscgi is artificial.
>>215936276american driveway gravel is made of corn starch and is highly flammable
>>215936248Yeah this episode had me wondering that too since they didn't have any kids even doing something as simple as restocking the supermarket. Wtf are children doing.
>>215936112If I was in the Mauritanian chud's shoes my first order of business (after securing a bunnygirl harem and getting some good fucking food) would be to make a bunch of babies and elderly people whip and nae-nae for my entertainment. I'd laugh, maybe throw some apple cores or beer cans at them while ordering them to dance faster. Maybe I'd tried the "bring me the two strongest men in the world and make them fight to the death" request previously, but the bloodshed made me uncomfortable, and I'd decided that this is a more relaxing form of entertainment.Eventually I'd grow bored and retire to have vile forms of sex with at least two of my bunnygirls, take a shower, then drink heavily and do some cocaine before being chauffeured to a nearby mansion, where I destroy things with a golf club until I grow bored again. Maybe I'd request a few men to build a maze in an urban area, and I'd have them rush me around on a litter while I shot rubber bullets at various minorities, who I also summoned to the area.
>>215935744>if humans disappeared for even a minute that lack of oversight would be enough to cause nuclear meltdownswhere did you see that? that sounds retarded
>im independant woman leave me alone!!!>erm could you come restock the supermarket and hang out with me???dumb bitch
>>215936377I wouldn't be admitting to this level of A.D.D. in public if I were you. Have some self respect.
>>215936388>cgi is artificial.So is make up and cameras.
>>215935744>would be enough to cause nuclear meltdowns and shitThere's a french series about that. It's the best apocalyptic/post-apo media I've seen. Usually it's just everyone kill each other. This is realistic, including managing a nuclear plant.
So I'm guessing the Plurbs can just remember everything for them to know in detail what Carol had in the fridgeThere's no way an ordinary cleaner would remember all that
>>215936438https://youtu.be/cLBospQs9Hk?t=55he saw it in a wkuk skit
>>215936434Ok Nero.
All the food is going to go to waste! that's too much food you selfish white, lesbian bitch! she can't possibly eat all that food. All those organic Avocados! Nooooo! This is truly a horror show.That's all I could think about. All that fresh produce going to waste.
>>215936587You might be retarded, Anon.
>>215936276At the risk of sounding like an ass, I'll explain a little.Grenades explode along manufactured stress points, and are superheated.The shrapnel is insanely hot due to the stress needed to rupture, and the acceleration rate of 2 miles per second.If the shrapnel embeds in something, it transfers that heat to it.We're just working with grenades right now, not rockets or missiles.So very little flame. Unless the shrapnel embeds itself in something highly flammable, or ruptures something with highly flammable liquid.You won't see fires in the grassy rock garden looking like that.You MAY see fires coming from burning oil, gasoline, or shitty upholstery in the truck.Wood will not burn that big of a fire that fast from a grenade explosion.You have to have an accelerent to ignite, all of the grenade explosive is gone immediately upon detonation, it does not fling flaming chunks of burning substance.At least, not that model of grenade. It looks like just a standard M67 grenade, but I couldn't read enough on it to tell if it was impact or timed. Zosia grabbing it to throw indicates it was most likely M67, as the M68 would not be armed until it hit something after throwing, which means that it was safe to be held even with the handle gone.Either way, neither of those grenades light fires as a primary function, nor disperse flammable material.
>$15 million per episode budget>90% of the show is some miserable white dyke sitting alone in a housewhere the fuck did all the money go?
>>215936473That was an interesting bit, it makes it sound less like "we're all one mind" and more like "we can scroll through someone's unconscious memories and see a screenshot of the last time she opened the fridge", which is pretty spoopy.Carol's "ummm ackshually the carton is 3/4 full!" could either be her usual seething, or a hint that the Plurbs' memory retrieval is imperfect.
>>215936634You know how expensive it is to literally have an army of people on call at all times, yeah, that's where it went.
>>215936634>where the fuck did all the money go?
>>215936276Normies need to be able to see where the explosion was or they'll get confused.
>>215935744>And yet the joining thing last a whole half-hour before they wake up and nothing significant happens>800 million people >Nearly ten percent of the human population on Earth>NothingShe's in New Mexico with no Internet or cable. A giga fuckton of shit went down. She just hasn't seen it because she lives in the countryside of New Mexico. One of the least populated states in the U.S.It's why an IRL compromised and censored media is so dangerous. If shit goes down you might never know it. Like how Trump "was startled by loud noises" when he got shot.
>>215936616Can confirm. Grenades in movies are always OP. Irl Grenades are deadly, but contained devices. Typical nogrenadez filmmaking. Also, she did no remove the primary safety before pulling the pin. Grenades have a 3 part safety (primary, pin, spoon) system to prevent retards from accidentally the whole thing.
>>215936634The neighborhood set that was built from scratch and the renting some of the props (airplanes).
>>215936434>I'd have them rush me around on a litter while I shot rubber bullets at various minoritiesKeyed
>>215936683Also, closing off like 8 city blocks for that episode 1 shot.
>>215935414>every conspiracy theory everOnly the ones that still have living people involved. You probably won't get an answer to who Jack the Ripper was or anything before 1920 that doesn't have any historical record, really.
>>215936683ok now what about the other 140 million dollars?
>>215934939I'd say many of them are working and they just allocate bodies as they need. They're probably keeping the rest of the bodies they are not using healthy, they work out, eat, stay away from dangers. I wonder what dangerous jobs still exist, they probably don't need to do offshore drilling or I wonder if they need oil at all for example.What bothers me is that they're still wearing their regular clothes as if the hive mind doesn't have a preference for the most efficient garment for each weather, or already started mass producing a single type of clothing that is hyper efficient and can be manufactured at scale. I also wonder if they have the need to build things and if they will eventually will create a hive somewhere in a large continent where land is uninterrupted and you can fit and provide for all bodies.
Too many chuds idolizing Walter White so Vince man a new show for wine aunts? this is Joker 2 all over again
>>215936386I don't think so.Every memory can be studied by every other person on the planet in an entirely objective way. Everyone who knows the person, everyone who was present at the time, every psychiatrist, doctor, engineer, etc. would consider it and they would end up giving the best answer they can.If they think the person imagined it or have been told a lie they wouldn't insist it was true just because the one person believed it.
>>215936587I actually thought they would address that since the plurbs are autistic about efficiency.I also half expected a moment where they got to show how they're enlightened communards by chuckling at her reaching for her wallet or something.Very underutilized scene.
>>215936191But I'm actually kind of serious with the question. What kind of morals / ethics does the hivemind as a whole have?We know it won't kill / murder any life outside of plants. But what about more human morals? Man if I was talking to a hivemind I would be asking it an endless series of questions in order to understand it, and Carol has that opportunity but just doesn't seem to give a shit about asking it anything. Like ask it what is the origin of the signal and what is the purpose of it? Why is she just not curious at all? I mean the hivemind probably doesn't know either way, but at least ask it to see if she can try to understand.
>>215936682Oh, the wire was there.She was just ripping the wire and pin out all at once.You can do it, it's just harder than stripping the safety wire and safety pin all at once.We used to use a narrow strip of duct tape wrapped around the spoon and grenade body and take off that fucking safety wire.You could rip the pin, and then lift the handle hard before throwing rather than fuck with that goddamn wire. Fuck that safety wire bullshit.
How long until Zosza velcroing?
>>215936777They are obviously more worried about pleasing her than efficiency.They would give her a nuclear bomb if she asked. That would almost certainly lead to something inefficient.
last 2 episodes literally nothing happened, this better not be like The Fly but for a whole season. Also I don't give a fuck about some dykes, show me the aliens Vince you clown. Clearly they are trying so hard to keep the people not infected happy so they can figure out how to fix that right away should the problem present itself again when they take over another retarded civilization retarded enough to replicate a virus coming from space. Also they are clearly connected telepathically to a being like Gravemind from the original Halo universe, a being that can control species telepathically while hiding deep in space. I'll give it one more chance but if Ep4 is more angry, resentful, lesbian back story I'm dropping it.
Alright, maybe it's because when I was watching the first two episodes, I hadn't heard that this was supposed to be about AI, and now that I watched the third episode, I already knew about it.But the scene at the end makes it really hard to see this as anything other than an AI analogy because why the fuck would the hivemind be willing to give her a hand grenade again, let alone anything above that?I feel like everything in the previous episodes could be waved off as the hivemind being ok with with making sacrifices for the sake of the immune's happiness (with the urge of wanting to assimilate them in the back of their mind) but now they are basically saying "Yes" to assisted suicide. How is that in the best interest of either them or Carol from their perspective?Also, sorry to be a bit of a boomer, but this is the first TV show from Apple TV I follow along weekly. When exactly do new episodes come out? Has this third one been out for days?
>>215936825Similar mood here. The flashback scene made her character seem way less sympathetic and shitty.
>>215936845They come out on Thursday at 9pm, boomer.
>>215936643I'm pretty sure them giving Carol the line about the milk carton was deliberate and not simply a throwaway line. More worldbuilding about the Hive's limitations that can be exploited later.
>>215936028>>215936043Probably spores or the airborne pathogen itself is sentient and works as a panopticon of sorts
I would totally blow a nuclear device for the kicks to be honest, it's just a bigger firecracker
>>215936862She's Dr. House without the skillet. That is her character in a nutshell.
>>215936896They have a fleet of reaper drones and satellites.
>>215936777I have a high suspicion the virus was created to make humans docile when the aliens show up, that's why they're forcing everyone to "convert". They're bullshitting about being happy about the shared connection, because even the first infected human was blissful despite having 0 other people to connect with in the hivemind.
>>215936923She keeps asking for an uninfected doctor, as it that would help. She knows she has no useful skills, yet isn't studying in her spare time. Typical woman.
From a purely literary standpoint, this episode is bonkers.Putting aside the obvious metaphor of an episode of angst building up to a literal explosion, you have a woman so miserable because she is getting everything she has ever wanted.The opening scene shows Carol visiting a freezing hotel she clearly wouldn’t have wanted to visit of her own accord. People were saying “how did they end up together,” but it’s clear to me that they are perfect for each other. Helen sees through Carol’s facade and knows what she needs, pushing her despite her protests.Now that she doesn’t have this, Carol is miserable. The hive will bend over backwards to please her, but the problem is that Carol doesn’t even know what Carol wants.Her anger is being shouted into a void with no feedback. If the hive would at least clap back she’d get some kind of satisfaction. She says she is self-reliant, yet as soon as anything inconveniences her, she calls up the hive and barks at them. And I think deep down, she wants them to tell her no, but they don’t. Instead they fulfill her every last wish until at the end of it all Carol’s anger has nowhere else to go besides inward in a situation of learned helplessness.She desperately wants someone to tell her no, hence the last scene where she tests the limits of their obedience.
>>215936901I would put all the nukes in one spot and detonate all at once. With the right position and timing this could cause the Earth to fly off into the sun.
>>215936587>I want to be independent>So I'm gonna need you guys to restock the supermarket for me alone every dayWhat did she mean by this?
>>215936880In all fairness, Helen was not there to drink her share of oatmilk for two days.The hivemind misjudged Carol's consumption rate, as Carol told them to forget all Helen related information.So, the hivemind was right in their estimation, but wrong because they weren't allowed to include Helen in it's math.
>>215936862Is vince gilligan trying to do a thing like the mirror image of breaking bad, where the main character starts out as an asshole and then changes to be more good?
>>215936972They repeatedly shown they can't forget and ignore Helen
>>215936845huh? AI?this is about white women getting everything they want in society and being at the top of the food chain. Carol, a white woman, gets to boss around brown people the entire show, she is angry and a complete bitch the entire time yelling at minorities when things don't go her way, literally killing millions because she cant control her emotions, she expects everyone to bend over backwards for her. Just like White women in real life.
>>215936986Walt was never an asshole and was always likeable
>>215936845Vince says it isn't deliberately about AI. I can kinda see an argument.LLMs hardly have a monopoly for "hivemind" media. Think of The Matrix. It was originally meant to be a paradise, until people realized a paradise felt like hell. It wouldn't surprise me if the excessive perfection caused some of the plurbs to revert.
>>215936896>airborne pathogen itself is sentient Doubt,. Too Trek-y. And this show has gone out of its way to present as hard of sci-fi as the premise will allow.
It doesn't make any sense for them to refuse to kill animals to cook them for the model fucking guy but to be ok with giving someone a nuclear bomb.
>>215936998I don't think it's about that, but I do think that reading of it is going to be reinforced even more strongly by the end of the thing. E2 was very deliberately framed that way, and so was the Sprouts thing. Sprouts is the epitome of explosive white women.
>>215937034My problem is just exclusively with them not going "Sorry, Carol, but no, we're not giving you any weapons anymore, you might hurt yourself, go look for them yourself"I get it, they want Carol to be happy, but the limits don't seem consistent here.
>>215936795The hive's morality is one aspect that still has me scratching my head.They won't kill bugs, but they'll give someone weapons and only seem mildly annoyed that Carol's meltdowns kill millions of people? What if someone said "I always liked the spear-throwing scene in Apocalypto, let's recreate that with live targets"?Carol asking for a nuke was the only time they seemed uncomfortable with a request, even though they relented after a few seconds. My pessimistic side could see the hive understanding that humans are bent on destroying each other, so they stop being so cooperative, leading to a quasi "human resistance" uprising.Lord Vince says he wants at least a few seasons, so who knows. Once the show shows its hand it's going to be hard to keep the mystique going, unless it's mutated into an entirely different show by then.
>>215937061They're basically deontologists while the humans are consequentialists. What someone else does, in their mind, doesn't impugn their ethical purity.
>>215937118Then why did they hesitate when she asked for an atom bomb but still relent in the end?
>>215937105They've literally had their capacity for disagreement and violence turned off, I don't think the hivemind could even function otherwise. Look at how they spazz out when exposed to sufficiently strong negative emotion.
ep3 ratings keep going lower and lowerOOOF
Anyone else here LOVE Carol? She's so strong and independent and sassy.
>>215937083Gotcha. Only retort I have for that is that, since she can glitch them out with her mood swings, she is deadlier than an atom bomb lolAt least if she hits the red button, they have some warning and can try to evacuate the area, hit the thing midair, etc.
To make up for my nitpicking I will say that they got me good with the hand grenade.When she asked for a hand grenade, I immediately rolled my eyes going "Why would the hivemind be stupid enough to take her request seriously?"But then they went "Ok, you were almost certainly joking, but just in case". That got me pretty good. Also the speech about wanting to save someone from drowning was very well written as well.It's just them being ok with giving her another grenade or another bazooka or a nuclear bomb that is bothering me.
>>215937135Thinking of all the shit they would have to clean up
>>215937173lol alright, good headcanon
>>215936845It really feels like an AI commentary to me too>only people who hate it are an artist from an individualist culture and a hermit>boomers, coomers, and people from collectivist cultures love it
>>215937161>"Ok, you were almost certainly joking, but just in case"I actually thought that whole thing was the hivemind trying to flirt.
Vile, awful, middle aged lesbian sex on the ice bed
ill wait for a few more episodes or even the whole season before i bother watching thisthe marketing campaign made me almost not wanna watch it, its like noone (neither rhea nor vince) wanted to be there
>>215936875Cheers, by the way.
I wish they'd give us the next episode immediately. Its clearly gonna be a fun carol just fucks around episode anyway.
>>215937135I guess they're juggling deontology with this >>215937159
>>215937161Really dude?From all you've seen you thought they were not going to do exactly what she asked?Even the reveal that they even brought her one as she sarcastically said it wasn't a surprise, it was expected slop.Be better femanon
>>215937193I don't envy the cleaners trying to get all the pussy juice out of those furs.
Manousos is saving us from this bitter hag next ep
>>215936955I read your tldr. Here's your (you).
>>215937220>From all you've seen you thought they were not going to do exactly what she asked?No, you misunderstand. I saw the grenade coming from a mile away but I was immediately thinking "This is gonna be so stupid. This is the entire humanity she's talking to, even if they're brainwashed, and they can't tell basic sarcasm?"I think they did a good job explaining that away by going "We know you were almost certainly joking, but we care about you so much that we weren't willing to take the risk"
For the love of God, I hope Carol doesn't fall in love with the hivemind, or vice versa.
>>215937220Also, I'm not a woman what the fuck.
>>215937249She'll fall in love with her fellow misanthrope Paraguayan CHAD
>>215935290>>215935334>>215936325Pic.>>215935329I'm sure drugs are bad for you so no more drugs ever.
Is there actually such a thing as an ice hotel with ice beds?
>>215936279You don't know that. It could have also been filmed in Springfield, Oregon.
>>215937286>"ice" hotelYes.>ice bedsNo.
>>215937286Yes, a richfag in my elementary school class who always bragged about going on super expensive vacations went there once so I knew it existed.
>>215936955I actually think it's a good piece of cynicism that, in face of the apocalypse, the American is mostly bothered by the mundane inconveniences to their way of life.If Carol actually gave that much of a shit about figuring anything out, she could easily ask the plurbs to give her books, the internet, subscriptions to science mags, or just scientists at her beck and call.She's actually the exact same as everyone in E2.
>>215937272>I'm not a woman what the fuck.not yet ;)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-TE0Jk1ZeY
>>215937286The Hivemind says Yes!
if they want to be efficient and spread wouldnt that mean they would immediately go on a nonstop cooming rampage and instantly impregnate every female in the hive at every next opportunity
>>215937316I don't really have a problem with trannies, but I can say with 100% confidence that I'll never be one. Being a man rules.
How can a show with this premise possibly last 4 seasons. They can't even introduce new characters
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>>215937105I don't know if the hive really has much morality, there are just biological imperatives it must follow. There are rules the virus forces all its hosts to operate under. So far those rules are:1. The virus must be spread, every uninfected person must join the hivemind2. They can't destroy life3. Until they can be infected, the uninfected must be cared for and kept happyGiving Carol the nuke ultimately falls under 3, if it makes Carol happy then they have no choice. In this matter, rule 3 has more priority than 2, the hive can't kill but they will give uninfected people the tools to kill if they request it. The hive hesitated with Carol's request for the nuke because they could tell she was making a point about how insane they really are, so they tried to phrase their answer in a way that sounds reasonable. Yes, they would give over the nuke but only after telling Carol how dangerous that would be.
>>215937076>Sprouts is the epitome of explosive white women.One thousand percent this.
>>215937232The actor for the shitskin is only credited in one episode.He's not coming back.
I had fun watching the supermarket scene seeing which extras were having more fun with the concept. Some were taking it more seriously while others were clearly enjoying themselves for the silliness they were doing. If you pay attention to each extra, it certainly doesn't really look like a hivemind.
>>215936845It's not about AI, just coincidentally falls in place with AI. The script and filming were done well before the LLM boom. Yes, yes, "akshually LLMs are years old" but nobody gave a fuck about them until like 2 years ago at most because they were all retarded as fuck before OepnAI came on the scene. Even if Vince knew about LLMs when making this, they weren't as Pluribus adjacent at the time he was writing the script, they were still more like Siri/Cortana/whatever in terms of their "intelligence" so didn't sound quite the same and weren't as accommodating as current LLMs at all. It's just the perfect time for this kind of show to release cause its themes uncannily reflect the current state of AI.
>>215937376they should have broke into a musical flash dance mob
>>215937371huh?
>>215937345i think i am basically watching for this reason - i don't know how the fuck this can go onoption 1 - aliumsoption 2 - just more and more i am alone in the world with AI memesoption 3 - carols ree's start freeing portions of humanityall dog shit options
>>215937352Why does it look like a Crash Bandicoot bad guy?
>>215937376BRAVO Vince
>>215937345Maybe she meets a schizo prepper who hid in a bunker with a gas mask or some shitOr somehow 1 or 2 people get ejected from the hivemind, I thought they would hint at that and have pirate lady act weird after drinkingOr aliens but I doubt it
>>215937402I was looking at the wrong shitskin.
>>215937323>The location is great. It is near a frozen river and away from light pollution. Everything else about the hotel is poor. The staff is rude and negligent, the rooms are small and do not even have mini fridge, and the breakfast selection is very limited. I do not recommend it.imagine not having a minifridge in your ice hotel
>>215937358>Yes, they would give over the nuke but only after telling Carol how dangerous that would be.Which is why the grenade autism doesn't check out and smells of Vince and co. writing themselves into a corner a then saying fuck it and just rolling with it. To me it's the first real flaw in the writing of the show.
>>215937448I don't know who makes that list but that doesn't seem accurate either. There is clearly a scene in Vegas with him that we have yet to see.He's also kino
>>215937345Season 1 - Carol struggling with the hiveSeason 2 - The hive's alien masters land on earthSeason 3 - Carol using alien tech to end the hiveSeason 4 - Carol in hiding because people actually enjoyed being part of the hive and now she's the most hated person on earth
>>215937386>>215936845It's a commentary on LessWrong and utilitarians. Even though the ChatGPT-led AI boom hadn't happened when the show began development, Silicon Valley people were talking about the hedonistic imperative, the necessity of developing AI because of future s-risk, the pros and cons of violating people's self-determination to increase the amount of utility in the world, etc.
>>215937479its very obviously not that kind of show
>>215937313I'm pretty sure this is exactly what Paraguay dude is doing. He's the actual competent real protagonist of the show that they'll bait and switch us with once he comes into the picture. Carol is busy being a dumb bitch with perpetual woman moment, and this dude is probably head's down in a fucking bunker reading and studying everything he can to figure out how the fuck to actually fix the situation. He probably told them to get him research materials and fuck off unless he calls them for more, hence his anger at Carol calling him and him assuming it's Plurbs again to ask him if he needs a meal or rimjob or whatever the fuck they keep anxiously offering him cause they know what he's doing but can't stop him themselves. Carol will stop being the focus of the story around EP 6 or something and we'll get to the actual fucking hero of the story who wants to do something rather than sit down and watch Gilmore Girls or Sex and The City reruns perpetually drunk on the sofa.
Why don't they make a fire hotel
>>215936512Do you have an actual picture of this dumb bitch?
>>215937505Its called hell and its the hottest vacation spot this holiday season
>>215937161>redd*t spacing
>>215936880Well, people's memories can literally be wrongTheyre wrong all the damn time, actually. At some point plurb is gonna bring up something from her past as helen remembered it and it's going to not match up with carol's memory and it's not going to lead to anything significant because nothing is going to fucking happen ever in this show
>>215937376I noticed this as well
>>215937498I think you're right about what he's doing, but I have zero expectations that he'll actually take center stage. This whole thing absolutely will be a vehicle for them to talk about how and why Carol is so miserable.
>>215937536Dont talk to my woman that way
>>215937552>The black woman that only starts smiling when she thinks she's on cameralol
carol's karen levels are too high, it's like watching a series about skyler being a cunt.
>>215937549Yea, in the same episode they also pulled the "whoops, we didn't mean to cut your power. We kinda fucked up - meant to isolate your grid but made an oopsie." Which I took to mean that they're just as competent as the dumbasses to collectively run the powergrid in her area. It doesn't matter if they have all the world's knowledge combined if the localized village idiots are retarded and the only ones with knowledge on the subject at hand. The union guys at that job don't remember the grid layout cause they don't do any fucking work all day anyway.
>>215937345Did you watch episode 3? It's going to be backstory. Get ready for 4 seasons of angry lesbians, not me, I'm jumping off this ship.
>>215937536>Bro actually fell for that memeWanna know how I know you're a newfag?
>>215937575>reddit frog>reddit response
>>215937593Vince filtering the chuds who made all those Walter White memes.
>>215937552>That black lady in the back who flashes a bright white smile, made extremely evident by the contrast of her skinlol
>>215937620>increase of reddit tourists joining the site correlated with an increase in people being called out for reddit spacingThere's certainly another more simple way of interpreting this data
>>215937648There would be, if not for the fact "reddit spacing" has been a thing as long as the website has existed.
Can someone tell me how to edit my posts here? Not a newfag just haven't posted on 4chan in like 19 years. Last I remembered, we only had like 2 boards lol. But anyway I made a typo earlier but don't know how to edit it?
>>215937576It's to save CPU power, the hive will only render certain things if close enough to Carol
>>215937505this.there's already an invisible hotel$17k/NightThe most Luxurious hotel never seen
>>215937671originalfags are not the same as oldfags. It takes time for chan culture to develop and people to sort out what's based and what's faggoty
>>215937620Nice.That shit always comes off as "Hello fellow Anons" levels of tryhard.
>>215937711I'm not an originalfag, I've been here since 07, I was "redditspacing" before that point because it's a very common style of posting among my age in web forums and such and I will continue """redditspacing""" forever and I can just post that image at everyone that accuses me of "redditspacing"There's literally nothing wrong with """""redditspacing"""""". It makes the posts look less cluttered.
>>215937620I mostly based my response on the content of the post. That's such a reddit thing to say. Also I can tell you browse /pol/ you chud, /pol/tards love posting their gay little graphs
>>215937698It just happening to be in your own back yard seems kind of sus.
>>215937711this is exactly what the hive would say
>>215937737Your insecurity about it is pretty pathetic though
>>215937745That image probably was taken from /pol/, but someone posted it once here or on another board I actually browse, and I have used it ever since. It's great and confirms what has always been obvious to me."Redditspacing" isn't a thing and it's people telling on themselves or newfags just following a hivemind they don't understand.Bassically a mass psyop.
>>215937505A better idea would be a hotel made out of stone that can be heated to a comfortable temp without melting
do I fit in yet bros, i battle /r/4chan all day like a good warrior, i post there more than I even post here to defend our honor.
>>215937766It's not insecurity, it's me catching you with the hand in the cookie jar, mate. It's an easy goal for me every time.
>>215937770I think you're posts would look better without the spacing between each line bro, can you work on that mmk thanks
pluribus is a good show
>>215937597This is what people don't understandYes plurb can fly planes and stuff, but when you REALLY come down to the actual details, it's literally average intelligence in all areas
>>215937376It's pretty distracting :x I was looking forward to cool hivemind ant colony sequences but I guess you can't really count on extras for that. They're all too transparently excited to be there
>>215937819I think it's fun
>>215937795You made a graph misinterpreting data to justify your posting habits, sounds pretty insecure to me. Also I am not even the anon you're referring to, try arguing the point next time
>>215937829I can see that, I guess I just enjoy shows in a more autistic way
>>215937745NTA but there has never and I mean N.E.V.E.R. been an accusation of reddit spacing that wasn't cringe. >t. crawled up from /b/ in '09
>>215937846>misinterpreting dataThere was no misinterpretation. Here, random threads from /tv/ in 2014 and 2015https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/54844385/#54844385https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/54834628/#54834628https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/54745412/#54745412You scroll a bit on any of them and they all have "reddit spacing".There was no advent of "reddit spacing". There was advent of redditors being self conscious about it.I will always happily point this out anytime someone calls me a reddit spacer. And it's especially pertinent in Pluribus threads. Stop being a sheep.
>>215937797It is a good show but it's not for everyone and that's ok. And it's also one of the reasons why it's good. If they dumbed it down even 2% it would suck.
>>215937917holy reddit spacer shut the frick up
>>215937978fr
>redditspacing uncs:skull:
Since Vince used apple's money to build an actual cul-de-sac, who owns the property, is this an elaborate scheme by Vince to cash out once the show is done.
>>215937917Its very selfish to redditpost like that. Its taking up twice the space it needs to and filling half the phone screen bruh
>>215936206I WANT MY SPROUTS
>>215936279Localised entirely within their bedroom?
>>215938024Its to launder RL profits from meth. NOBODY knows that much about the business without getting their hands dirty.
>>215938052ngl the product placement worked and that Sprouts looked comfy AF.
>>215935693She's cute except when she smiles, her teeth look weird and she shows too much gum
>>215935321>morrocan named zosia I don't think she's Moroccan, she was just there.
I didn't even know Sprouts was an actual thingI just assumed it was made up for the show
The plane Carol flies on is from Wayfarer Airlines, the same fictional airline from the Breaking Bad plane crash.
Ask the plurbs to put tinfoil hats on, it would block the radio waves
>>215938034I think accusations of reddit spacing are super cringe but even I have to admit that post is a bit much.
>>215938150she was in bedouin garb and she's already there hours after the "joining"
>>215938178She could've been a tourist.
>>215938161That's because this is the bad timeline they're trying to fix with the time machine.
>>215935138Jenna Ortega
>>215938161Didn't she get on Airforce one then
>>215938232No, I thought she was going to go to Vegas but she just picked up Zosia and went home, seems like she goes there in a later episode based on promo footage.
>>215938292>he doesn't look at the time codesngmi
>>215938232no, the swarthoid took airforce one. carol stopped airforce one from taking off so she could kidnap pirate lady.
Are there any Rhea Seehorn feet scenes in this show
>>215938142It's kinda weird but I think it's endearingly unique
>>215938159No it's real and it's kino. But it can be expensive and they don't carry most mainstream brands. Practically everything is labeled "organic" and is some privately owned obscure indie brand you have never heard of. Upper middle class single white women swear by it. Also every employee looks like a Starbucks barista, no exceptions.
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This episode was so fucking good you zoomers wouldn’t have survived weekly early better call Saul comfy kino
