What if Joffrey was a good person? how would the series change?
>>216001800Joffrey was a good person, he was redpilled on foids because of his whore mother. Only women and fags hate Joffrey
>>216001800What if Walt decided to not sell meth? How would the series change?
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>>216001800He literally did nothing wrong
>>216001878go back to redd it, fag.
>>216001800Robert would still get killed by the boar because his wife despises him, Ned would still find out he is an incest baby and attempt the same shit, Cersei would make up for Joffrey being a pussy and still do all the insane shit. Maybe the war with the Starks gets postponed a bit since Ned might still be alive and headed to the wall, but Stannis and Renly would still rebel. Brotherhood without Banners would still be fucking with the Lannisters. Tyrells and Dorne would be hard to predict.
>>216001993also Littlefinger would be playing everyone against each other since this is his only opportunity to get what he wants, and Varus would be doing something similar for Dany.
>>216001993>Ned would still find out he is an incest baby and attempt the same shit, If Joffrey was a good lad he might have hid it. Wouldn't have been the first time Ned did such a thing.
Joffery with Tywin as hand would have been a peaceful and prosperous realm. Joffery wanted a standing army and he was rightfully concerned about Danyeres.
>>216002043Nah. Ned still believes in the rule of law, and would still see Cersei betraying/killing his friend and attempting to usurp the throne for the Lannisters.
literally tommen
>>216002043>>216002075Also neither Ned or Cat would forgive the Lannisters for killing Jon Arryn. Even ignoring Roberts death, there's still too much that drags them into conflict. Lysa would still be insane and jealous of Cat, too.
>>216002103The lannisters didn't kill Arryn
>>216002130But they are still led to believe that because of Lysa., and it's very likely that they would have killed him if it wasn't Littlefinger/Lysa, since he found out the truth of Joffrey and was going to tell Robert.
>>216001800Nothing would change, he wasnt a player just a pawn.
>>216002075>Ned still believes in the rule of lawYou can't say that about someone you rebelled against the rightful king, even if they were insane.Stannis already has a monologue about the point where "the rule of law" falls apart and presenting a pure-blooded Lannister incest baby as the heir to a Baratheon-Lannister marriage is on the insane side of rule of law for a man like Ned/Stannis.
>>216002192Totally different circumstance. Mad King burned his father and brother alive. Ned's honor only extends so far.
>>216001800He was the one that sent the killer to assassinate Bran in the books. I dunno why they changed that in the show
>>216002192Stannis's whole thing is he follows the rules as written even when it's stupid (see davos's fingers)Ned would be much less likely to say anything if it seemed like Joffery would be a middling to good king.
>>216001800Joffs loves his Mum
>>216002217It wasn't changed in the show. Pretty sure Cersei admits to Tyrion that she knew Joffrey tried to do it, because he had heard them talking about how it would be "the nice thing to do".
>>216002216Such as passing off a well meaning Lannister incest boy as a Lannister-Baratheon heir, specifically because the Baratheon bit that is missing is from the male side.
Joffrey was the only one who was worried about Daenerys Targaryen and her mongolian horde while everyone else just shrugged it off because they are in essos and they are afraid of water
>>216002246>Stannis's whole thing is he follows the rules as written even when it's stupidNo it isn't you fucking show fag, yes I know we are on /tv/, if that was true Stannis would not have rebelled against the Targs in the first place.Stannis is NOT lawful-stupid he is lawful-just and actually bends the rules of "lawful" in favor of "just" MANY times throughout the series.
>>216002270a broken clock is right twice a day.joffrey being interested in it comes from his inability to understand how unlikely that scenario would be.
>>216002270>>216002304also D&D went lightspeed through the story. realistically, it would probably be 20-30 years before the dragons were big enough to be a threat like they were.
>>216002294During the rebellion he follows his immediate feudal superior (his brother) over the king, who he likely did not ever pledge fealty to.
>>216002392That isn't how feudal obligations work anon. You own your loyalty and service from the top down, not the bottom up.
>>216001800so a world without vile jews? based
