how long do you think until we have fully produced AI short films and features, with completely realized sound design, speaking roles, etc?I give it a year tops...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_xsXy0GzY
that was pretty cool I guess
>>216004719probably by the end of 2026.start to finish.45 minutes.fully voiced.
>after years, it still can't produce a single scene with multiple shots, only standard walking animations or panningYeah, it's gonna be a while, chief.
>>216004719>>216005052Curse Vishnu
>>216004719Not long enough. We have enough slop as it is
>>216004719Not in your lifetime.
>>21600505245 minutes nah but 15 minute short films? 10000%
>>216004719ima india village boy i am impresse!! wowaweewa
>>216004719this bizarrely feels like a cross between 80s dune and power rangers aesthetically.
>>216004719Early 2027 will have real time local models running on new Nvidia 6000s.
>>216004719Gahdamn thats cool. Too bad for hollywood this tech arriving comes at a point where a majority of people wish to see hollywood die anyhow
>>216004719Their faces looks like fucking plastic lmfao.
>>216005761The worst part about this webm is that this dude is young, so he should be able to spot this slop from a far distance.Or maybe he did know and he's pretending to be stupid, which in that case, would be one hell of a troll.
>>216004719AI will forever look awful and you're a nigger for supporting it.
>>216007110its because hes indian and therefore dumber than most africans
Mid 2026 for legit good stuff but not at the top 1% levelEarly 2027 AI eclipses humans in everything including filmmaking. Mark your calendars
>>216004719I liked the video too but its pretty clear narrative structures are far off. There's a reason every clip is just 5 seconds of somone walking
>>2160072802030 India become superpoower by JeetAI saar, remember it bitch
>>216004719Good morning, Sar.
>>216007284>someone put in no effort to make a narrative structure>this proves narrative structures are far off!watach any movie anon. all the cuts are like 5 seconds.
>>216004719Never. Not as long as AI can't understand and think.Unless you mean half assed slop. In that case it won't be long, but we already have those
>>216007072Just like real actors, then. Very realistic AI.
>>216008957>>216009055Cope posts.
>>216008957Bro, what are you talking about these?AI artists talk about how they literally have to make thousands of prompts, just to get fucking like even a barely cohesive short. That's clearly what's going on in this video. Dude probably spent like a hundred attempts per clip to get the right one.I know because i've used it to make narratives, and it's incredibly difficult to have even like a minute, long scene.
>>216007138>AI will forever look awfulRetards like you literally get duped into thinking that AI is human-produced art every other day.
>>216005052Yeah. If you are a writer, or a filmmaker with nothing, or a fan desperate to see a certain story, why wouldn’t you?I could see people doing the old Star Wars books in that Rotoscope style and it being great.
>>216009972>Retards like you literally get duped into thinking that AI is human-produced art every other day.Nobody is falling for your crap, Pajeet.
>>216007138>AI will forever look awfulSure anon. You enjoy your comfy delusions.
>>216010043>retards just fuck off to their corners to slurp on Star Wars and 40K AI slop, never to returnI'm okay with this.
I'll admit it, I've been fooled by more than one Middle-earth lore channel. You think it's some nerd, but no it's a bot. The worst thing is that the human channels are worse in a lot of ways, and the weaknesses of AI channels are less egregious than the weaknesses of the human channels to most people.
I don't even give a shit, Hollywood has been producing nothing but trash for decades now. Let the AI slop takeover, it literally can't be any worse.
>>216011534If I was a little more paranoid I'd be suspicious as hell that the movie and tv industries suffered total competence collapse just in time for our dear robot overlords to come save us.
Is it worth getting into this 40k stuff? I've seen memes about it all my life and the community seems pretty autistic, but is it a gay and autistic or just autistic?
>>216011649No. Half the fun of 40k is being into it as a child and watching it decay year by year as you grow up. Zero reason for an adult to be interested in it just cold.
>>216011649Yeah, it's great.
>>216006896It cgi broo
>>216004719Quite a far ways away. I’ve been working with AI a lot, and even tried to make my own porn game with it. But it’s just not there yet with consistency.I can consistently recreate a character in an image with a lora, but it’s not perfect. It oftentimes takes multiple generations to recreate the character again. And then if you want to change their hair, or if you want to recreate their clothing you need to make a new lora for each hair and clothing combination. So it’s not perfect, but with some trial and error you’ll be able to consistently recreate your character and their outfit and l hairstyles across multiple images. But that’s not all you need to recreate, you need to create the background and setting too. Which AI is just not doing. The best you can do is generate a setting with multiple views from different angles. Then you can use complicated workflows to get your Lora generated into that background. However, getting them to interact with the objects and things on that background like sitting in a chair, opening a door, etc., is not there.Then there’s the issue with multiple characters. Consistently generating 2 Lora’s in one image can be done with trial and error. But consistently generating them across a series of images is not there yet, even with the use of complicated workflows. And if it is I’m not aware of it.Trying to make a porn game with AI is just not possible, unless you’re fine with having inconsistent looking characters, backgrounds, settings, outfits, etc., We’re more than a year off from getting AI to be able to make images with consistent characters and backgrounds, for video we’re even further off. Unfortunately it’s definitely not close.
>>216006890>>216005052The length of the video is irrelevant, unless you’re making it in one prompt. But if you’re making it like a normal film, shot by shot, scene by scene, you’ll be able to make a movie as long as you want. The problem is maintaining then consistency of what your characters and settings look like between shots and scenes. That’s definitely not coming by the end of 2026 and is a long ways off
>>216007138What’s wrong with AI?
>>216011888its basically this but now from leftists.. karma lol
Outside of Neural Viz and that cartoon that shan't be named, who's doing the best right now? Some of these trailers are cool and all, but I mean like who is doing stuff that'll be considered some of the best early work in a decade or so right now?
>>216011953cartoons are unironically indistinguishable from the real thing nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0WD0j1-wc
>>216011534People are stupid in the way they think AI will be used to make movies. They think it’ll just be one prompt to make a movie from start to finish, which is retarded and will obviously create slop. AI is just a tool that artists will use to create their vision. Right now someone wants to make a movie they need millions of dollars from a studio to hire actors, crew, CGI artists, buy equipment, etc. Then they need to sacrifice their vision to conform to the studios demands.When AI is good enough, filmmakers won’t need the studios. They’ll just use AI to generate their movie one cut or shot at a time. In fact, it will let more people create art. Maybe someone has a song in their head, but they can’t sing or play an instrument. Now they can write the lyrics and sing the melody to the AI. They’ll mimic the sound the of the instruments. Then the AI will bring it to life. Idk why people think all AI art will be slop. There will certainly be tons of lazy slop generated with minimal prompts out there. But there will be tons of great things created by people who are simply just using AI as a tool to bring their vision to life same way they use cameras and paint brushes now.
>>216012065>they think it wil be just one prompt to make a moviegood ai movies will be basically created from even more detailed written movie scripts with that being said there are movie script databases and later there will be basically ai movie templates for genres in which you fill out shit you want etc
>>216011946>he thinks it's a job issue when I specifically mentioned the qualityRetardAlso nobody cares about your mutt politics. Your country is a joke.
>>216012200it is a job issue for the millions of leftists bitching about ai you retarded mongrel
>>216012200The quality of AI isn’t inherently bad. Yes if someone is using AI to make a movie in one prompt it’ll be slop. But if one day AI is good enough to consistently recreate characters and settings and you can actually make a coherent story without consistency issues, what would be wrong with someone using AI to make a movie shot by shot? That wouldn’t make their movie inherently bad, as long as their vision, writing, and cinematography are good the movie will be good. It’s just a tool they’d use to make their movie.
>>216005761Fuck Vishnu.Also take your meds.You post the same fucking series of images whenever any posts an AI image or even mentions AI.
>>216012551>Both are absolutely correct.
>>216004719This slop looks disgusting
>>216011491These shill posts are becoming ridiculous.
pro-Ai celebrities
>>216011813I gave you advice on how to keep consistent character designs last week.
>>216013222holy based
>>216005761I've had white coworkers react similarly to AI trailers on social media. One of those moments when you think a nuclear holocaust is a blessing.
>>216013282Getting consistent characters wasn’t my problem. It was getting multiple consistent characters in one image and getting consistent settings that was impossible. It’s a pain in the ass but I can generate a character, generate them with a bunch of different expressions and make VN sprites. I can make new Lora’s of them in different outfits. Then I can take the VN sprite and put them over a background. But the problem was when I want an image. The setting on them in the image is completely different than the background, and trying to keep one background consistent over a series of images was impossible. There’s just no consistency. And to get the consistency I had was still a pain. I just switched to daz3d.
Warhammer is MLP for neckbeards.
>>216013222>Christopher NolanWait, Mr. "I-Only-Shoot-IMAX-Becase-Digital-Is-AIDS" has spoken positively about AI? I wonder where in his workflow he sees himself using it?
>>216013390At the end of the day these niggas wanna make money. Lower cost, more payouts. The question is, "do you want to make more money"of-fucking-course
>>216013390>where in his workflowundress Emma Dumontconvert Nick Dumont back to Emma Dumontmake Emma Dumont stand for 8 hours
>>216013469detransition people and giving the role to the AI would be so funny
>>216004719its alreasy happened.There was going to be a screening in london a couple years ago of the last screen writer at the prince charles theatre in londin, a full ai movie, but "people in the industry" threw a massive tantrum and got the screening cancelled.They eventually had a private screening. These people are holding ai back because they are scared of losing their paychecks.
>>216013469>>216013484>*british voice* 'ello advanced Ai brain, today I want you to invent time travel>*Ai voice* task complete>*puts on time travel suit* now let's go back a decade and be a loving father figure to Emma Dumont, shepherding her career and giving her roles in my big movies, starting with casting her as Catwoman
>>216013496>AI-forward retards think that tech giants will, even if AI ever becomes economically viable, just take a socialist approach and allow everyone to make their own high end "art" for free
>>216013484haha, they can probably use the most advanced versions right now to detransition them (plus the best camera and tech of course)>ellen page, was in a nolan film, went trans>Emma Dumont, was in a nolan film, went trans 2 points makes a line, and a line is a trend.
>>216013548Of course it won’t be free. It’ll be software you probably have to purchase and subscribe too. Either way, you want need millions of dollars to make a movies and everybody that wants to except pajeets will be able to afford it.
>>216004719>how long do you think until we have fully produced AI short films and features, with completely realized sound design, speaking roles, etc?They technically already exist. They're just so shit that they're not worth watching.How long until they're watchable? How long's a piece of string? It will happen without much fanfare I reckon, and before you know it everything will be ai
We already get kino AI music for our favorite hobbies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QpWe87AKAQ
>>216013603>everybody that wants to except pajeets will be able to afford it.Like housing, which has become more and more affordable over time as we develop new materials and tech, right?
>>216008957Don't use Trek to defend your AI slop sanjeet
>>216013671There are tons of completely affordable programs out there that people use to create art. They may be hundreds a year but people that want them can afford them. Why would they make the program to expensive to be affordable? They’d make more money selling the program to millions and millions of people rather than selling it for millions of dollars to studios.
>>216013830The holodeck is literally generative AI
>>216013191 You're just an idiot.
>>216007280>>216009972>>216011534>>216011946>>216012551>>216012965>>216013222>>216013621SAAAAAAAR
>>216013887>Why would they make the program to expensive to be affordable?Same as housing, healthcare, food? Do you think graphic cards are going to become cheaper or they'll just catter to a smaller segment of super-rich?
>>216014223Shill
>>216004719Already here,just saw a Star Wars short flic about Vader finding out who Luke is.Was 100x better than ANY-FUKN-THING Yidsney shat out the last 10 years!
40k is gay and retarded
Hopefully China will nuke the entire indian continent, cover the ruins, trash and shit with 10 meters of concrete, and build solar farms from top to bottom.Then the entire world will have enough power to generate the most amazing AI porn.
>>216014661yeah, NOW it isas the jews started trooning and niggering out the Astartes and Custodes
>>216014599See >>216011366
>>216014446Housing is expensive because of supply and demand. Low supply and high demand = high prices. It’s not a very good comparison to a consumer product. A better comparison would be things like photoshop, ableton live, or any of the other numerous software available for purchase/subscription that people use to create art. For a consumer product, they’ll cater to whoever makes them the most money. I have a hard time seeing catering to a smaller, rich audience as being more profitable than catering to a general audience. I think you’re just retarded desu
>>216011866Sounds like AI could be another tool that feeds into compositing.
>>216012551libs walk around the modern day and think people in the past were wrong feels like taking crazy pills sometimesBut hey just hop in your car and ignore the 10 million browns you drive past to go to work..
>>216012002Good but far from indistinguishable.
>>216014599https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zZP1uzp_YQShit, you weren't kidding. That was surprisingly watchable
>>216015086> I have a hard time seeing catering to a smaller, rich audience as being more profitable than catering to a general audienceYou're an idiot. 100 families right now have more money than 50% of Americans and that group keeps getting smaller. You'll be phased out in no time. Thinking it's okay to not be able to afford a house because I'll always be able to make my AI porn is the final nail in your coffin.
>>216013382I thought MLP was MLP for neckbeards.
>>216015363Lol what, I never said it’s ok housing is expensive, I said why it’s expensive. And it doesn’t matter how rich a small group of people is, what matters is the profitability of selling a product. Would making the product so expensive only a small group of rich people could afford it, make them more money than selling it to a wide audience? Probably not for something used to make art, considering all other programs and software used for making art are priced at a range a wide audience could afford and not something only wealthy people can. You actually are retarded, huh?
Normies don't like AI because it's good or even not shit. They like it because it's something to participate in and talk about which movies and TV used to be before the nepotistic slop industry era
>>216004719AI has no character rigs, keyframes, camera controls, or anything. You basically control it with a typewriter. If that isn't a horrible artistic and technological regression I have no idea what would be considered one. If you can't tell the AI at any point "back up, I'm taking it from here because you made a mistake and I want to fix it myself by twearking that pose and changing the timing" then it's worthless as a filmmaking tool. You don't make movies that way and it's why AI content is slop.
>>216004719We already have
>>216015606Hence him asking why how long until we have AI short films, not him saying we have them now. Although, he is retarded for saying it’s a year away but he most likely is just shitposting there to piss off the people who get triggered by AI
>>216015606>AI has no character rigs, keyframes, camera controls, or anything.it has versions of all of that and more.>If you can't tell the AI at any point "back upyou can do all of that and more.Actually look into all of the technology. The only issue right now is that it's slow and has no UI that combines everything into one filmmaking package.
>>216015747AI-assisted filmmaking will be a thing eventually but it's not going to come from where you probably think. Tech bros with their LLMs have a very powerful toy that is good at entertaining normies who literally don't know how to do anything more than type in plain speech prompts. That's what it's for, that's all it's good for. The actual machine learning tools that are going to empower artists are not being made by the AI startups. They're being made by engineers at companies like Adobe, Autodesk, etc. as well as numerous smaller software houses and open source initiatives that are developing tools that artists and animators are actually going to find helpful for producing actual art and animation, not prompt-based AI slop. Things like being able to cast realtime, instantly tweakable lighting on 2D drawn art assets that can be manipulated as easily as if it were 3D (we already saw this with Klaus, it's just that the tools were proprietary and highly experimental back then and required many hours of manual correction). Being able to generate some tween frames so the artists can focus more on key poses. Being able to fill in the dad air between key poses in 3D animation in a way that looks good, while leaving room for the animator to manually adjust it. And of course, effects like smoke, water etc. are very good candidates for AI assistance, and it would free up animators to work on higher priority stuff like characters.Again though, that is an entirely different sector of the tech industry from the convention "AI bro" type and the progress is way slower. They're focusing on shit like Sora because it impresses investors way more than something like a new tool in Toon Boom does. And the actual tools take a lot longer to develop, because it's a long term development commitment, not a pump and dump scam like what tech bros run.
>>216016759I have spent hundreds of hours with AI and you are full of shit. There are no puppets and visual control handles in generative AI, it's still all text based. The closest thing to what you're describing is to quickly and cheaply stage a scene in 3D animation software then run it through an AI filter, and it looks like dogshit.
>>216004719>>216005052Not happening this is all going to be trademarked and regulated.
>>216011946>leftistsAIpajeets are spiritually the exact same as trannies.>desperately trying to present yourself as something you'll never be (woman/artist)>tries to take shortcuts because of his own shortcomings instead of putting in effort to improve himself>always tries to hide this fact despite claiming to be proud of it (not disclosing AI use / trying to infiltrate into women's spaces by "passing")>extremely spiteful, treats the entire thing as finally getting revenge against his oppressors (real women / real artists)>extreme coping (the penis is feminine, you bigot! / AI is just a tool, sir!) >will never be fulfilled
>>216016907That's the big iceberg heading towards the AI Titanic. The amount of copyright violations that have happened under OpenAI's watch would be enough to put them out of business if the affected companies file a class action suit against them, but they're hoping they can either bend the courts to say that AI training is fair use (which is a very flimsy claim when people are making full episodes of South Park and Zootopia shorts using Sora), or that they can go running to the government and say "you can't let the movie industry put us out of business, we're too big to fail! If you let them enforce their copyrights against us, China is going to beat us in the AI race!" I am hoping that neither scenario works.As far as China and the situation with their AI goes, they have always been blatantly stealing our intellectual property and secrets, and yet the USA remains a far more innovative country than them even though we use our technology and industries far more responsibly than they do. If the AI market crashes in the US, we'll have few bad weeks on the stock market. In China, people are going to be executed.
>>216014425get a life.
>>216016849>depth maps>openposehundreds of hours means fuck all, you're legitimately clueless
>>216011866the length of the video IS relevant because most people prompting shit are lazy and won't want to re-prompt or fine tune it enough to be coherent for 90 minutes
>>216004719Not soon enough. I pray for the day Hollywood dies.
>>216017071This is an absolutely perfect metaphor. It's not the first time I've seen it but it's true and it makes AI bros seeth."I identify as an artist, it's not fair that I was born with the wrong hands and brain to draw and it's my right to infiltrate this space."Meanwhile, people with no fucking hands are making beautiful masterpieces by taping a brush to their stump, or holding a stylus in their mouth. And these actual disabled artists have been managing for centuries. There are tons of people with literal physical disabilities who are doing incredible work through sheer determination and human adaptability, while the completely able-bodied AIjeet claims that their lack of patience and commitment should be looked on as a disability, and AI is the wheelchair that's making things fair.If I lost my hands, I'd rather learn how to draw with my mouth than switch to AI prompts.
>>216017305Explain why AI "movies" can only show a few seconds of footage before they have to change shots, then. Not even Coca Cola with their millions of marketing dollars could fix that.
if AI is bad explain this>Anthony Bourdain: Eliminating Human Cooks is "the only solution"https://youtu.be/N2tKrVS1rg8?si=3XRR7s6JrWudkvRQ
>>216004719>so accurate to the tabletop everything and everyone looks like they're made out of plastic.
>>216012551Everything on this image except for the title is something I say and believe in wholeheartedly.
>>216017412What's the difference between using a tool such as a pencil to scribe words onto paper, using a chisel to chisel hieroglyphs out of sandstone, or using a LLM to compose a story?They all require user input, none of them can create anything by themselves.They are all tools, and your mastery of them will dictate the quality of the final product.The reason I mention quality, is that it seems to be a central argument against AI. Which is somewhat ironic, seeing as 90% of "art" is in fact absolute trash. Go to a modern "art" museum and experience for yourselves what people consider to be "art".
>>216015313>>216014599nigga this is fucking terrible
>>216004719>entire movie is incoherent 5 clips stitched togetherim an indian teenager and this is kino
>>2160050522026 now?
>>216017554Two people can generate the exact same story using a LLM. That's not a tool, it's a gacha.
>>216016907ding ding ding
>>216014599>>216016759>>216017284>>216017554SAAAAAR
>>216017609Two people can generate exactly the same story using conventional means too.
>>216017633So? In that case it's a coincidence and extremely rare and not the exact same learning data being spat out and incredibly common.
>>216017579
>>216007138>ai can’t draw hands and never will!settle down old man
>>216017666>satan tripskekWith a pencil I have the ability to scribe onto paper any symbol, letter or combination of such, that I please.With a LLM, you can do the exact same. If we both write the exact same prompt, how is that different from drawing the exact same squiggles on a piece of parchment?Also, people write how they have learned to write. Authors commonly draw from experience from other authors, some are even very successful doing so, by changing just enough to make it fresh, others seemingly create "original" works, but just about everything draws inspiration from something that was created earlier.I would even argue that's human nature.Assuming that I draw on my own unique experiences and input some of those into a LLM, the output has a good chance of being different, than an output you receive from yours.
>>216004719i think this ai thing is gonna work out just fine
>>216013282Could you help me?
>>216017771>With a pencil I have the ability to scribe onto paper any symbol, letter or combination of such, that I please.Go on then. Draw a Space Marine chainswording and Ork Boy while a Grot laughs on top of a skull.
>>216011813>Trying to make a porn game with AI is just not possibleHow come you already have tons of AI slop games with good art, consistent multiple characters per scene and so much more? You can look up a game called "femboy futa house" or something like that you can will be able to see how the characters don't even change from a scene to another. AI is already at this level but feels like it's a skill issue on your part.
>>216017771>With a pencil I have the ability to scribe onto paper any symbol, letter or combination of such, that I please.Then do it, why do you need AI?
>>216017858>"femboy futa house"AIjeets aren't sending their best.
>>216013352Why would you use the same tool to create everything? That's like using nothing but a thick, mop styled paintbrush and expecting fine details to come out once it's finished.Surely are more efficient way would be to use one model and lora for pictures, and one for characters, and then use a different set of tools to combine the two.
>>216017845>>216017888Your argument is flawed.If I were to attempt drawing your picture, I would do it using my cloud based photoshop app, using an electronic pencil on my tablet, and it would turn out poorly, as it would were you to attempt using even more traditional means, like a hammer and chisel on a rock.AI is just another tool. Tools get smarter as we get smarter.What will happen in the future, is the standards of what can be considered true art will finally increase.This is a positive.
>>216018007So you can't.
>>216018007>With a pencil I have the ability to scribe onto paper any symbol, letter or combination of such, that I please.Your words moron. Do it.
>>216017554>>What's the difference between using a tool such as a pencil to scribe words onto paper, using a chisel to chisel hieroglyphs out of sandstone, or using a LLM to compose a story?One is making art, the other is offloading the creative process onto a machine through dictation.
>>216017775I mean, it will resolve itself over the next few years if the last couple tech bro get-rich-quick schemes are anything to go by.
>>216018064>one is art, the other is offloading the creative process onto a paint brush through chemistry>>216018060You want a squiggle on a piece of paper? It's like claiming no one can create literary art, because the dictionary exists.
>>216018111>>>one is art, the other is offloading the creative process onto a paint brush through chemistrySorry, all I hear is "SAAAAAR" and some pooping farting sounds.
>>216017554Searching an image booru requires user input, it cannot create anything by itself and my mastery of using tags will dictate the quality of the final product.Therefore it is a tool I can use to create art. I made this image.
>>216018007Based and true. Anons itt missing the point quite often because much like you have said, it's a tool and a tool has a skill related to it. You may not like hearing it but knowing how to use an AI is a pretty high ceiling skill, that is why you have so many people making interesting and cool things like movies or art but at the same time you have people who can't even make a rather simple 5 sec animation or an okay-ish illustration. There are tiers to this whole thing and most people can't quite see it yet. With AI you can do a lot of things that you couldn't have done before, you can anime something completely new form a still image or make something unique with your creativity, for example you could tell a "traditional film maker" to make a small short but he would have to actually cast people and go through the trouble of getting them all into one place blah blah blah but with AI? You don't need that anymore, you can make a sketch and turn it into a full blown movie.Same with art too, you don't need to waste your time learning something mechanical as drawing anymore that skill has been solved by AI now. All you have to do is focus on the bigger ideas and how to get there, instead of worrying about your line you can look to the bigger picture and imagine things with more clarity. In short, AI is just another tool, people who realize this will thrive and be the new masters of the age of AI
>>216018210Since you realize this, post your masterful AI work that requires extreme skill.
>>216018138Well no, you've recalled the exact combination of colors someone else placed down. You've created another copy of something that exists.Give the Chaos Marine a beanie and you've created something new, although arguably just a worse copy.Look at 5 similar pictures, and take parts from each of those to create something in a similar style, and you've created a unique combination, that you can absolutely claim is your own.
>>216018270Says who?
>>216018290The US supreme court https://petapixel.com/2025/02/12/this-is-the-first-ever-ai-image-to-be-granted-copyright-protection-a-slice-of-american-cheese/
>>216018290Unless you argue, that by virtue of the fact that every single word appears in a dictionary, you can never create a new story, then absolutely you can take something that already exists and merge it with something else, and it is a new work of art.Many examples of this exist. Parodies as one example.
>>216018340Why do I have to merge it with something else for it to be new? I searched for it on the booru, I used my skill to select the correct tags to find it, I searched multiple pages to select the perfect combination of colors. How is it not my artwork?
>>216004719I liked "Imperium of Man". This AI junk could be used as inspiration for human-made films and CGI. But anything more is hateful Technoheresy.>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoWfZNmuorc
>>216018447This doesn't look like 40K. Looks more like Rebel Moon.
>>216018393Because you haven't input anything new into the work itself.You have created a copy.The same, if I open the book next to me, and type the entire story into this box and post it, I have created a copy.If I change the names of the characters I have still just created a copy.Are you looking for the definition of a copy? I'm sure you don't need me to explain this to you.If you really wanted, you could use a LLM to explain it in the clearest possible terms.
>>216018514I have input the tags I used to search it. No different from any other input used to create art.
>>216018514Why are you anti-copy?
Preferring human made art over AI made art is like preferring a shirt made from hand picked cotton instead of a machine. Sure, it makes you feel good knowing a slave- i mean a human helped make the product, but it just doesn't make sense economically for human made products to stay the norm.
>>216018538Every painting uses pigments and techniques that already exist, it's the composition of them that you created that means it's new.This is not a difficult concept to understand.>>216018553Do you want a definition of what constitutes a copy and what constitutes something original?Or what are you getting at?
>>216018609I used a completely unique set of tags, at a completely unique time in a completely unique place. That is an entirely new composition. Just because the art already existed doesn't mean what I made is not new.
>>216018609Why are you anti-copy? It's all just atoms dude. The copy has completely different atoms arranged in a completely different way so what are you even on about? Why so obsessed with "copy"? Such as the AI rearranged atoms also the artist does rearrange.
>>216018571Why do AI fags always make these smug statements as if they are facts and not just their (retarded) opinion.When two things are free there's no economic issues with preferring the higher quality human-made thing.
>>216018641>I used a completely unique set of tagsNo you didn't, but for sake of argument I concede that you may have switched up the order>unique time in a completely unique placeIrrelevant>Just because the art already existed doesn't mean what I made is not new.I'm almost positive you're baiting at this point, because your statement is illogical.I can use a spinning jenny to accurately create the same ball of thread, and I will have a new ball of thread. It will be a copy of the previous ones.If I take those balls of thread and load them into a different machine, I can again combine them into pre-existing patterns and create infinite copies. If I begin moving the parts around randomly, the threads will combine randomly, and I will suddenly be creating different objects out of the same thread.The difference is the composition of the final work will differ to what already exists.>>216018674If your argument is that everything is a copy anyway, what's the problem?
>>216018708Why do economics factor in? Preference is also subjective.You have no argument.
>>216018851>Why do economics factor in?Because you brought it up retard >>216018571>it just doesn't make sense economically
>>216018708Pottery, ceramics, porcelain, glass-blowing, stained glass, mosaic tile-making, tapestry weaving, embroidery, lace-making, textile weaving, fabric printing, wallpaper printing, rug-making, carpet weaving, metal engraving, wood carving, plaster ornament making, gilding, jewelry making, bead making, decorative metal casting, enamelwork, cloisonné, decorative woodworking (marquetry, inlay), wickerwork, basket weaving, candle making (decorative), decorative soap crafting, ceramic figurines, plaster statuary, decorative stone cutting, architectural ornament (cornices, rosettes, capitals), sign painting, calligraphy, decorative bookbinding, picture-frame making, mirror silvering, decorative tile glazing, cameo carving, intaglio engraving, textile dyeing (pattern/print work), upholstery embroidery, ornamental ironwork, bronze sculpture casting, and ornamental glass engraving all used to be considered arts and are now dominated by mechanized production. Preference is barely a consideration.
>>216018830I feel like we're both arguing the same point and we actually agree. I used a booru to create an image that you claim already existed, but just like you said in your post, it's still a new image because the composition is different.
>>216018904Ok and? You wanna pay thousands for some dumb shit to blow your glass?
>>216018904This is you admitting AI "art" is not art. All of those things you listed are still considered art when a human does it using traditional methods, but not when a machine is used to do it.
>>216018970As if the average movie goer will notice or care. There will still be small human made indie films sure.
>>216004719:o omg so ebic
>>216018571All the microplastics from your polyester clothes leeched straight into your brain.
This should only be used for porn
>>216018939Okay and? Would a studio pay millions of dollars to employ thousands of people when a server farm and a committee of board members can prompt their next blockbuster? You proved my point. No studio will spend the money when they know the audience doesn't care.
>>216018931That depends if you're arguing the single image you posted earlier can be considered an original composition, or if the page of images you call forth with your use of tags, is in and of itself the composition you would claim to be yours.Claiming solely that you retrieved an image with a specific set of tags is no different to me retrieving an image by moving a specific number of pages through my book of Woodland Birds and sending you a picture of it.
>>216004719>how long do you think until we have fully produced AI short films and features, with completely realized sound design, speaking roles, etc?>I give it a year tops...There's already a Batman AI film that's over an hour long - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DA_l0aW1JM
>>216019036Of course, and why is this bad? Fuck these leftist retards in the first place.
>>216018994It's far easier for the average person to tell an AI image from a real artwork than a manufactured tile from a handmade one so your analogy falls apart there.
>>216018970A machine is a tool, a specific type of tool, but still just a tool.It's like complaining that real art is done with nothing but your hands and some dye, once a brush is involved the final composition becomes irrelevant.
>>216018571This is a fine example of something being both truthful and bait.>we as a society can no longer afford human creativitylmao
>>216019073I doubt they will care. The latest chinese cartoon movie that made billions already looks AI.
>>216019052Judging this as a legitimate movie, this is truly shit.
>>216004719Has GW C&D'ed whoever was behind this into an early grave yet?
>>216019104It's true, who's going to pay for it? Feel free to pay me if you want real art, but I have to live from it. So I need like $5000 per painting.
>>216019038Again, I think we're agreeing with each other here. The booru and your book of birds are just tools we can use to make art.
>>216019083Are you going to make a point?
>>216017559Sure, but it's improving rapidly. By 2030 there will be full movies that will be devoid of soul but will allow people to create functional movies from almost nothing.
>>216019134pyw
>>216019153I think the difference may lie in our definition of "make".Perhaps you would care to enlighten me with your, undoubtedly, unorthodox understanding of that word.>>216019178I have, several times. Using AI, a paint brush or a chisel are all the same thing fundamentally: they're tools.
>>216019210Make is using a tool like AI, a paint brush, a chisel or an image booru.
>>216004719>I give it a year tops...
>>216019210>Using AI, a paint brush or a chisel are all the same thing fundamentally: they're tools.And people can still easily tell which tool you've used between AI or a paint brush.
>>216017579People are making short films now.
>>216019270I could probably tell if you're using a chisel or a paint brush to paint the Mona Lisa, what's your argument?
>>216019293Use AI to summarize my previous posts because my point is there and you seem to have forgotten it. At some point your debate tactic became "acting like a confused retarded who can't grasp basic concepts or understanding"
>>216019245Those are all tools, yes.And go through each of them, and tell me how you would use them to make something original.
>>216019347See I knew we agreed! Here's another artwork I made while we were debating.
>>216019338Your previous claim, correct me if I'm wrong, is that you can tell whether or not someone has created a work of art using AI or a paint brush.Why is that relevant, if not to argue that, the visible difference of final composition, is the issue?>>216019369Copied*There is no discernable difference between that collection of lines and colors, to the image you grabbed.
>>216019423Why does the difference have to be discernible to you? There is a difference, even if you with your poor artistic ability can't see it.
>>216019423>Why is that relevantIf you weren't a retard you wouldn't be asking this.
>>216005724Yeah it can. I prompted a scene in Sora with multiple cuts and angles.
>>216019525Post it.
>>216019490It seems your argument has devolved from something that might at one time have been a coherent point, to name calling.I accept your concession.>>216019462Well, if you're arguing the fundamentals of what is considered original and what is considered a copy, then I'm sorry to inform you that copyright law has already cemented the argument.
>>216019631It was obviously never coherent to you since your point has only ever been "durr me no understand".
>>216019631>then I'm sorry to inform you that copyright law has already cemented the argument.Correct. There is precedent where copyrighted materials can be used to develop a tool that makes art with no legal consequences, so what I made, is in fact, original.
>>216019675My point has consistently been that using AI to create a work is no different than any other tool.You have yet to make any kind of argument that can refute that.>>216019711>There is precedent where copyrighted materials can be used to develop a tool that makes art with no legal consequencesYou're still pussyfooting around your argument. Why not just come clean, your argument is, that training an AI on a series of existing images, is creating something illegitimate, and therefore the "artist" is not creating original art, but simply copying.The courts have already ruled against this.Training a LLM on existing works, does not infringe copyright, as if you were to read existing works, be inspired by them and use those as inspiration, grab a pencil and create a different composition, is not infringing on existing copyright.It could be argued, that training a machine like this is unfair, but like those who protested that they couldn't compete with the spinning jenny, will be considered irrelevant.
>>216019852>The courts have already ruled against this.What ruling was this?
>>216019909https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/ip-updates/district-court-finds-that-using-copyrighted-works-to-train-large-language-models-is-fair-use.htmlhttps://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/en/knowledge/publications/afb0e10b/two-us-decisions-find-that-reproducing-works-to-train-large-language-models-is-fair-use
>>216004719https://youtube.com/watch?v=wWZYP5jn5w4
>>216019852In the same vein I can consider everything you said ITT irrelevant. Why wouldn't it be? All it is marxist post-modern deconstruction of definitions and meaning and appealing to copyright law as if that is a definition of art.
>>216019562Can't without plastering my name everywhere.
Disgusting slop. Soulless. Makes me want to puke.
Just want to take this opportunity to let everybody know that I will be helming a five part, 2 hour per instalment series titled "Attack of the Giant Booba" after which I will hand it off to any worthwhile directors that will be able to carry on such creative vision.
