Have you seen Adam Curtis' Hypernormalization?The doc's central idea is that governments and corporations have given up on managing our complex reality. Instead, they've built a simplified, managed "fake world" run by algorithms—and we've all just accepted it.Does that feel accurate to you? And what other docs hit on similar themes?https://youtu.be/Gr7T07WfIhM
Nonsense for liberals to pretend that it isn't the jews that are ruining white societies and genociding white people through ethnic replacement and promotion of sexual degeneracy.
>>216012451thats what civilization is and always has been
>>216012496Have you even watched it?
yes listen to the blackpiller funded by the british government. don't change anything. you can't.
>>216012774have you even read Das Kapital (unabridged)?
It's accurate because it's how the world always worked. There's no difference between pre-war and post-war culture and society.
>>216012838ad hom
>>216012451I watched Can't Get You Out of My Head because people kept talking about his stuff here. Expected something red-pilled or at least kind of enlightening, and all it was was some surface level stuff and at times very contrived attempts to string together a lot of global events into a coherent narrative. Very often he would include and exclude things dishonestly to serve his narrative. I knew it was actually just BBC shitlib crap once I got yo episode 4 and they dedicated like 3/4 of the episode out of left field to some random crossdressing tranny's story from the 80's lol. Kept waiting for it to somehow tie into things too but nope, it had nothing to do with shit, the person was a nobody, they were just required to ram it in by BBC I guess (but then oddly they never even talked about the larger picture of the gay rights movement in the 70's and 80's?) Don't be fooled into watching this pseudo-intellectual nonsense. It's just manipulative and dishonest crap to try to make up a narrative for people to feel like they know BBC-approved "truth" from.
>>216012451I have seen it and I have no idea what the message was
>>216013600this to bee honest
Christ is THE way out of manufactured realities into the truth. Objectively speaking.
>>216013057>>216012836non sequitur
>>216014449Bro this image doesn't make any sense.Was the shroud perfectly flat above his face and took a picture? Was his face the perfectly flat part? Why does it look like a normally proportionated painting if the shroud was laying on his face?
the plan ahead came outthoughts?
>>216012451Trump looks here like such a fucking jew
>>216017629Trump is a gay pedo jew lmao, and our leader.
>>216017893trvke
>>216017893also first ever president - PAWG
>>216017013Christfags are literally the stupidest people alive
>>216012451>The doc's central idea is that governments and corporations have given up on managing our complex reality. Instead, they've built a simplified, managed "fake world" run by algorithms—and we've all just accepted it. Sounds about right
>>216012451No because it's a game of semantics regarding "real" vs "fake" reality. What's really happened is there is a Wendigo mind virus that has spread throughout our culture, at least in the United States. It's a Wendigo because it feeds on the exploitation and domination of others without ever being satiated. It creates an atomization between self and community. Projects our internal fear outwards through neuroticism. Watch some Cop Cam videos. It's insane how people, ostensibly very normal, conduct themselves.
Limited hangout. Reminder Adam Curtis is pro censorship when he cast aspersion on the machine of interwebs later.
Is it just me or is Adam Curtis a bit sensitive to criticism?>People say his work is a bit of a monograph, biased and leading>He stops any narration or personally doing interviews to just use archive clips to tell a story with minimal amounts of text as connective tissue.Personally I don't mind the esoteric feel of it because it feels like a snapshot of things. But generally he is ranting about the modern technocracy, financial oligarchy etc all dating back to the 1980s and how much society is radically changed. All that combined with the stories/narratives we tell ourselves. His work definitely has peaks and troughs.I always thought his shorts from Screenwipe were better:https://youtu.be/8moePxHpvokhttps://youtu.be/3UstNBrmJFchttps://youtu.be/VrSQinf8Qtohttps://youtu.be/O9FaIyc4vpU
>>216018044Wendigo?
>>216018161Mythical Native American creature. A human turns into one when they become a cannibal. Their desire for flesh grows but is never quenched. Also the basis for the kino Ravenous. I'm using it metaphorically.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo
>>216017960>>216017893>>216017629
>>216013531You got fucking filtered as the point of the tranny's story is to prove that transition surgery magically doesn't fix the tranny's problems and actually makes them fucking WORSE. IE the tranny's surgery got botched by a doctor after going to an ER, her black lover dumped her, her friends hate her even more for having gone through with the surgery and tell her that it's all her fault she's miserable, and she can't find a new boyfriend because no one wants a tranny.The tranny fought the system in the name of being a powerful individual railing against an uncaring system and lost everything. Which was the theme of the episode, as Curtis was straight up saying "real life isn't like Star Wars; the Empire can and WILL crush you like they did the protestors in Tienaman Square or you will end up like the tranny; "winning" but said victory being a pyrich victory where you lose more than you win.
>>216014449Why was he so ugly?
>>216012836Not him but you can't answer a question with a question
>>216017013>>216014449Also he was Rocky Dennis
>>216012451Curtis makes some generalized observations which are sometimes correct to a degree, but he argues them poorly, and attributes too much importance to specific people, movements or ideologies, and reads clear intent where there is none. He's sort of like a high IQ conspiracy theorist. Curtis is good however at editing and the marriage of image and music.
To really investigate this series, you will have to investigate what is meant by the term "algorithms". This is a primitive term for what eventually became AI. [My narrative read in the voice of Adam Curtis]
>>216012451>Baudrillard has entered the chat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwbEsdwhG3I
>>216019995>attributes too much importance to specific peopleI don't think he attributes importance to specific people, I think he just uses clear examples and people confuse that to attributing it all on them.>and reads clear intent where there is noneSo much of his work does not state there is clear intent because so much of it is about mood and changing states, not always clear intent.
>>216012451Yes, and I loved every second of it!
>>216012451Connects a lot of dots in a pretty mind-blowing way that reinforces just how much of what the masses think they know is total bullshit. The whole build up to John Denver being part of that weird hippie ego death cult thing was great, lots of little bits like that. Bernaise stuff is practically required knowledge in today's world. That said I think he gives the elites too much credit and they really couldn't give a fuck what the masses think about anything as long as they keep chipping away. It's like how the msm controlled what people think until recently. It was never some super sophisticated psyop, they were just the only source of information for most people so it was really just as simple as lying.
>>216012451I keep meaning to watch this, but I feel like I'm never in the right state of mind for it.Maybe one day.
>Low quality footage of the Middle East in 1968 set to haunting surreal soundtrackIn a small village in Iraq, seven members of a clandestine guerrilla neo-Islamist movement gathered in a small hut to discuss plans to expand their numbers>Cut to stock footage of Saddam Hussein riding a bicycleWhat they would not be distributed or even read, but the ideas it laid out would eventually lay out the hidden cause of every war that would occur thereafter in the 20th century>Cut to stock footage of suburban sprawl in 1950s AmericaOn the other side of the world, a silent network of like-minded individuals began to form, who all saw the devastation of World War 2 as a blueprint for a new way to organize society.>Footage of mice in a lab wandering a mazeIn fact, it was the opinion of scholars in the upper echelon academia that using this blueprint, the many revolutions and violent movements which once defined the Western world would be but a historical footnote>Cut to a clown's head being annihilated by a nuclear bombBut this was a fantasy
The stuff about Putin and his political advisor from the art world was fascinating
>>216021532I feel like I've been oneshotted by that concept - that those in power can fund controlled opposition to dismantle the unity of their political opponents. I basically see this thing recurring everywhere now
>actually Russia and Syria are the reason everything is bad in the worldAAAAAAAAAND dropped
>>216021577He literally never said that? If anything he questioned those too.>We are told Assad is bad but we bomb ISIS keeping Assad in power.Is paraphrased from one of his shorts.
>>216021472kek
>>216021472lol
I like his older documentaries. He's too in love with his own style now.
>>216021266>I think he just uses clear examples and people confuse that to attributing it all on them.I haven't kept up with his newer stuff, but what I wrote would apply to the Power of Nightmares, the Century of the Self, and All Watched Over. It's not simply examples of people, or just simply certain people, but as I said, social movements and ideologies. That said, I don't see how people like Alan Greenspan or Matthew Freud are simply presented as examples in Curtis' films, and not supposed architects.>So much of his work does not state there is clear intent because so much of it is about mood and changing states, not always clear intent.Really, because all of the stuff I've seen by him tracks how ideological thinking instructs policy.
>>216021672Two things, firstly I think I am looking at his work as a whole, which includes his later work. And secondly I think he isn't attributing people overall as being singular architects, but that is more a problem of his editing style, because hearing him speak about matters contextually in other places I think he is talking about overall shifts, even when it seems he is directly blaming a few people.
>>216021672he knows he can't outright name (((them)))
>>216012451idk if i agree with the central thesis but i enjoyed the doc a lot. especially the way it explained what was going on with libya and syria, two countries i've heard about a million times in the past 15 years but never really understood why they were relevant to the US
>>216012747Helios: The checks and balances of democratic governments were invented because human beings themselves realized how unfit they were to govern themselves. They needed a system — yes — an industrial-age machine.
>>216021722>even when it seems he is directly blaming a few peopleThis isn't really blaming a few people. He's saying that these individuals are thought leaders and that wider policies and actions are downstream of their ideological thinking.
>>216022634But he talks a plenty about overarching and overall systems in multiple narratives too.
>>216022735Systems as guided by what?
>>216012496Fucking nailed it. /thread
>>216021472jej
>>216020121>Baudrillard has entered the chat.https://hyperpodcastism.libsyn.com/jean-baudrillard-and-simulacra-and-simulation
>>216012451Just touch grass
>>216012451Neither guv'ments or corpos are smart enough to pull something like that off.>>216012496The jews don't control anything, outside of 'murrican politicians, and thats going the way of the dodo lately.
>>216012451Symbol manipulation.
>>216012451>Have you seen Adam Curtis' Hypernormalization?>The doc's central idea is that governments and corporations have given up on managing our complex reality. Instead, they've built a simplified, managed "fake world" run by algorithms—and we've all just accepted it.>Does that feel accurate to you? And what other docs hit on similar themes?>https://youtu.be/Gr7T07WfIhM [Open]No
>>216022839Multiple forces and how the world has changed, entrapping us in the past. Everything from the changing face of identity to technology.
>>216023907More vagaries. What multiple forces? How are we entrapped in the past? Changing face of identity sounds like something like the Century of the Self, and in it that it's conscious change orchestrated by ideological powers. How does Adam Curtis say that technology guides systems?
documentaries are always retarded
>>216012496What do you think the point of the film is meant to be You're almost there
>>216012451Alex Jones for pretentious online leftist.
>>216014449Yep. If you want to live "The Matrix" for real, that's the way. And I'm not talking about being a mere churchgoer. Most churches would kick you out for preaching the gospel.
>>216023978>More vagaries.All I said is that contextually, as a whole and having listened to other interviewswith Adam Curtis, I didn't think your point was accurate. Going into detail would require me to summarise multiple shows and interviews because without that context, it wouldn't be clear. But I CBA to write an essay at the minute. Either watch some more of his recent shows and some interviews or don't I guess. It was just a correction/disagreement over a single point, anon.
>>216012451I remember even in high school, back when The Matrix came out, teachers and people online talking about how the mainstream media created a false reality through the naratives they spin. Certainly was a common commentary during Bush Jr's war in Iraq. WMDs, Axis Of Evil, what constituted a terrorist state."Mission Accomplished".
>>216012496Oh yeah anon, it’s liberals that are the problem vis a vis jews and not the blackmailed republican in office right now.How do you even get antisemitism wrong? Dumb motherfucker
>>216024773>All I said is that contextually, as a whole and having listened to other interviewswith Adam CurtisWe're talking about his films. Interviews with Curtis don't matter.>I didn't think your point was accurate.That is clear, and you've done a bang up job backing that up.>Going into detail would require me to summarise multiple shows and interviews because without that context, it wouldn't be clear.I'm not asking for an essay, but something more substantial than "multiple factors." I've given my general assessment of Curtis's work, and have provided examples.>Either watch some more of his recent shows and some interviews or don't I guess.Again, who gives a shit about his interviews? He's a filmmaker. >It was just a correction/disagreement over a single point, anon.You didn't correct anything.
>>216024516The Matrix was based on the (heretical) gnostic gospels. They preached that the world was created evil and Jesus was fully divine. Gnostacism also predates Christianity too. Gnostics took those ideas of an evil material world and various gnostic ideology applied it to Christ.Mainline Catholic and Orthodox teachings say that is wrong. As much as it does not make sense to us, Christ was fully human as well as fully divine. The Earth was created good and later fell from grace.
>>216023441They control most European counties through the EU, then there are literal kikes running the Ukraine and Mexico, others are extremely deferential to them directly like Brazil and Argentina, Saudi and the UAE (among others). Deference to the US is the same as bending the knee to Israel. They're trying to worm their way into China. Russia was absolutely hollowed out by them for a century.Just stop rabbi. Your hasbara has no power here. Go spend time with your family in your species twilight hours.
>>216025205>The Earth was created good and later fell from grace.I agree.>>216025205>Christ was fully human as well as fully divine.My understanding here is that people can be possessed by spirits as in demon possession. Or as in believers being full of the Holy Spirit. And that Jesus was born unfallen like Adam was before the fall. As man was created in the image of God, if you have an unfallen specimen that is full of the Holy Spirit, that is how God chooses to appear to creation. So, for all intents and purposes, Jesus might as well have been God, since He was sinless and full of the Holy Spirit of God. Maybe He wouldn't've died of natural causes, who knows. But He was a flesh and blood man. I don't think religious leaders know what they are talking about when they say He was 100% man, 100% God. I don't think they have actual spiritual revelation or insight on that. I think it's just something that they don't understand and also repeat.
>>216012451>Adam Curtis thread
>>216025351don't get too smug, Seth, that's always been just before the fall
>>216012451>Have you seen Adam Curtis' Hypernormalization?I saw it for the first time last week. It was great, and I think his thesis is spot on. Especially the gadaffi stuff and the blackrock stuff. I downloaded some of his more recent documentaries to watch next. Don't be put off by some of the opinions in this thread anons, hypernormalisation is certainly worth a watch.soundtrack to this thread ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckBlXtYrpy0
