[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/tv/ - Television & Film


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: potatoes.gif (645 KB, 220x220)
645 KB
645 KB GIF
Potatoes aren't native to Europe
>>
>>216012655
Lord of the Rings is set in the future after third worlders destroyed civilization and got turned into orcs and Whites realised living a medieval lifestyle was better all round
>>
>>216012655
This took place in middle earth. Not Europe
>>
>>216012655
Neither are tomatoes or tobacco.
>>
>>216013074
According to Tolkien, his world is a mythologized prehistoric Europe.
>>
>>216012655
Lord of the rings doesnt take place in Europe.
>>
>>216013093
Nah just talked to johnny and he said ur a fag
>>
What did wypipo even eat before colonization? They had no spices, no noodles, no tomatoes, no potato’s, no corn, no squash. Did they just eat watery grains? That’s just stupid.
>>
>>216013262
They literally sucked on cow udders. It's why they are able to drink milk into adulthood.
>>
>>216013262
milk, wheat and boiled meat
>>
File: IMG_1803.jpg (2.79 MB, 3000x1600)
2.79 MB
2.79 MB JPG
>>216012655
There’s a restaurant franchise that claims to be historically accurate to 11th century Spain and they serve food that wouldn’t have been available in Europe at the time, including potatoes. Go complain to them since it would actually matter in this case
>>
>>216013262
natives didn't eat potatoes or tomatoes either, those retards thought it was poison
>>
>>216012655
Neither are you, pablo
>>
>>216013262
olives
>>
>>216013482
Olives are a garnish. You can't sustain yourself off of them.
>>
>>216013368
>milk, wheat
So watery grains?
>and boiled meat
Only for the top .1% of white people got that shit, and it would’ve been awful without spices
>>216013472
You got that mixed up white boy. The South Americans ate potato’s and tomato’s all the time. Europeans didnt eat them because they thought it was evil because it wasn’t in the Bible and because the plants are relatives to nightshade.
>>
>>216013093
>mythologized
still not a real world
>>
>>216013262
bread was the main staple for the masses.
>>
>>
File: 25483 - SoyBooru.png (188 KB, 1536x1258)
188 KB
188 KB PNG
>>216013262
>>
>>216013093
Why does Tolkien think that finno-ugrics are elves?
>>
>>216013684
I’m not a spic. Fuck that. their food is shit makes me sick.
>>
>>216012655
Neither are orcs and goblins, but they keep importing them.
>>
>>216013093
so they're mythologized po-ta-toes
>>
>>216013866
so what are you
>>
>>216014057
Black
>>
>>216013589
salt was available
that's all that's needed
>>
>>216012655
Was he and Frodo romantically involved?
>>
>>216014074
African cuisine
>Mud cookies
>Vermin
>Seeds (too stupid to grow food)
>Each other
>>
>>216013262
This. They wuz livin in them caves n shit!
>>
>>216013262
Just plain old, heart food. You don't spices to eat food. What good did all those spices do third-wolders anyway. Too busy grinding plants and leaves in a stone pot, instead developing useful technologies and actually conquering meaningful land.
>>
>>216013262
I eat "watery grains" every morning, and enjoy it very much.
>>
File: garum.jpg (140 KB, 1200x800)
140 KB
140 KB JPG
>>216013262
it was better that way, a comfortable and complacent white population has been the bane of the modern world.
>>
>>216013262
We ate a lot of grains, bread is a staple food all over Europe for this reason. We have massive regions, like the Ukrainian breadbasket, that are devoted to growing tons and tons of what, these have been operating with more or less the same function for millennia. Grains, of course, are typically derived from grasses, and Europe has plenty of those. The European Plain offers perfect grazing land, and as a result, European peasants have always been able to raise lots of high-quality animals, and therefore eat as much animal products as they want. As well as the fresh meat at butchering time, and the constant inflow of meat from animals that age out or become injured, we also became experts at preserving meat. In the North, we used ice, in the South we used salt, and in the centre we benefited from the wisdom of both directions. A European peasant in pre-colonial times would often have woken up in the morning and dined on bacon, sausages, eggs, or cheese - unlike in many regions around the globe where regular consumption of such rich food was the privilege of the nobles and the wealthy. This is why the European colonists were often half a foot taller than the savages they subdued, far more robust and healthy. Europe's rich soil is also excellent at growing all manner of vegetables like onions, turnips, and cabbages. To top it all off, your assumption that Europe had no spices is incorrect. In addition to the dozens if not hundreds of native plants that enhance the flavour of food, like garlic and caraway, the Silk Road has been operating since antiquity, bringing Europe all the spices the East had to offer. Saffron and asafoetida and cinnamon were all well-known in Europe before colonial times.
>>
File: Untitled.jpg (22 KB, 168x300)
22 KB
22 KB JPG
>>216013262
What did Africans eat before colonisation?
They had no spices, no wheat, no chickens, no corn, no potatoes, no tomatoes, no peppers, even cows and goats were only for the rich
Did they just eat roots?
Do they still just eat roots?
>>
File: carrots.jpg (107 KB, 1200x900)
107 KB
107 KB JPG
>>216014341
Roots can be pretty damn tasty.
>>
>>216013262
wheat slop
>>
>>216014341
What was Italian food like before the tomato?
>>
>>216014392
>orange
You're welcome.
>>
>>216014193
>Seeds (too stupid to grow food)
Africans would embed Okra seeds in their braids so they'd always have a food crop wherever they went. It's why you yt folx have gumbo
>>
>>216014141
Mined in Africa
>>216014193
Yeah nah you’re right. Our traditional food is shit. Except all our chicken dishes.
>>216014341
I think we had plantains and mangos and shit but you're right. Least the average African got to ate meat everyday instead of European king slaves, that you must admit.
>>
>>216012655
Dunno if you know this anon, but Hobbits, Elves and Dragons aren't real.
>>
>>216013080
neither are muslims
>>
File: media_G5vVEDAW8AAmrZD.jpg (196 KB, 1170x791)
196 KB
196 KB JPG
>>216012655
neither are the imports
>>
>>216014520
ok? neither are christians or jews
>>
>>216014341
Turnips and carrots and garlic are all roots. There’s nothing wrong with root vegetables.
>>
>>216012655
Good thing they're not in Europe
>>
>>216014541
Jesus was Slovakian you desert bug.
>>
>>216012655
>Potatoes aren't native to Europe
This actually upset Tolkien later on, that and tomatoes
Also, hobbits not having their own language and extremely faggy names like "Maura Labingi" for Frodo
>>
>>216014392
europeans and their winter cycle
>selectively bred food to change everything about it from taste to nutrition to making it orange, because they can do that

africans and their garden of eden
>dis dirt make de food omnomnom, wat mean farming? De ground make de food!

>>216014439
>Roman influence on the entire Mediterranean region was so considerable that to this day, the basic food in most of the region is still wheat bread, olives, olive oil, wine, cheese, and the occasional piece of meat or fish.
>The Muslim conquest of Sicily and southern Spain was highly influential on the cuisine by introducing new plants like lemons, pomegranates, eggplants and spices such as saffron.
Would you prefer to go further back in time to examine Roman cuisine itself?

>>216014495
>the average African got to ate meat everyday
If he was eating his fellow African, sure. But drinking baby's blood was mostly reserved for the cultist initiation rites of rulers.

>>216014555
Look closer at African cuisine. That is a wild root, not a cultivated root. Most passable African food today are New World plants cultivated into usable varieties (mostly for heat resistance) by European hands.
>>
File: Kitcha_fit_fit.png (1.05 MB, 828x868)
1.05 MB
1.05 MB PNG
>>216014495
IDK Man I just googled some African food and Kitcha Fit Fit sounds pretty fucking slamin. Big-ass continent.
>>
>>216014618
>to examine Roman cuisine itself
No need, it was all fish sauce and that one plant they ate to extinction.
>>
>>216014331
>like the Ukrainian breadbasket, that are devoted to growing tons and tons of what
sounds like one confusing place
>>
>>216014495
>salt comes from africa
>ypeepo can't cook meat
>ypeepo have dey's kings, we neva hav kangz
>>
>>216012655
>Potatoes aren't native to Europe
neither are negroes, yet I don't see you complain about orcs
>>
>>216013080
Crazy to think that old nation Americans like the Sioux are known for their horsemanship when Horses never existed in the America's before the white man came.
>>
>>216013093
debunked in letter 106
>>
File: 1737129310667523.jpg (90 KB, 640x640)
90 KB
90 KB JPG
made oatmeal for a white friend of mine and he went yoo I didnt know black people put pepper in their oatmeal then I explained, its just cinammonn bro. this was a joke now laugh.
>>
>>216014595
What do you mean it "upset Tolkien"? He's the one who wrote it.

Is it like God creating humans and then getting pissed and killing them all?
>>
File: The hero /tg/needs.png (376 KB, 1440x2560)
376 KB
376 KB PNG
>>216012655
>>>/tg/ is that way
>>
File: 1755308759559877.png (194 KB, 1600x2000)
194 KB
194 KB PNG
>>216015003
wypipo b like:
>*eats one single flake of black pepper*
>*face turns red, starts sweating profusely, coughs and wheezes, collapses on the floor, needs to be taken to the emergency room*
>>
File: Hero /tg/ needs.png (30 KB, 956x222)
30 KB
30 KB PNG
>>216015076
Fuck, wrong image
>>
>>216013501
I only ate olive oil for a week once. Then popeye kicked my ass.
>>
>>216014193
You forgot
>hamburger patties made of smashed mosquitoes
>>
>>216015152
Sounds like something my dad would say.
>>
>>216015204
>Excuse me, waiter? One Zika Burger please, and hold the Ebola!
>>
>>216015077
We literally subjugated the entire world for spices dumbfuck
>>
>I'm gonna show those leftists by malnorushing myself and eating just staples of my region
There is such lovely Polish saying: "To freeze off your ears just to spite your mom".
Keep going, rightoids. It's gonna be swell when you simply kill each other and yourselves

Captcha: BASEDSS
>>
>>216015238
And the two countries that did that have notoriously bland cousine, because they've sold said spice to everyone else.
Then offshot of one of those countries became wypipo
>>
>>216015286
2 more weeks and all the chuds will kill each other, xister!
>>
>>216013262
Meats and grains.
Indians ate corn, potatoes and tomatoes.
Asians ate meat and rice.
Abbos ate kangaroo and berries.
Africans ate fruits and whatever animal they found.
>>
This thread is full of ESL turd worlders.
>>
>>216014539
based facebook grandpa meme
>>
>>216015286
>There is such lovely Polish saying: "To freeze off your ears just to spite your mom".
Can't tell if brown or polish for not knowing the English phrase about noses that makes more sense than this bad one.
I'm sorry you were born into an English world you never understood and never will.
>>
>>216015643
Both. My dad was a black American serviceman stationed in Poland.
>>
>>216015686
My condolences. Being mixed race sucks, both being unprivileged is worse.
>>
>>216015077
What's funny is even east asians wash their chicken. Only group on earth that doesnt wash meat is the yurocuck and descendants.
>>
Homo Sapiens, chicken, wheat and cats aren't native to it either.
>>
>>216013684
I look like this and say this.
>>
>>216015077
I hope people one day learn to draw comics that aren't wojaks again.
>>
File: 1762666799930850.gif (1.36 MB, 220x391)
1.36 MB
1.36 MB GIF
>I hope people one day learn to draw comics that aren't wojaks again.
>>
>>216015312
>And the two countries that did that have notoriously bland cousine
They actually have the finest cuisine on earth, this idea is just absurd.
>>
>>216015763
What no we don't
>>
>>216013262
Eagles.
>>
>>216013262
Same thing as Asians because they're all the same people, ancient Asians are just European looking people, they got mixed with something else, noodles developed independently, as did bread and other grains. There were also ancient spices and flavors that no longer exist. If you look at Mongolian and pan continental Russian cuisine, that's what everyone was eating.
>>
>>216012655
What did the Irish eat before they were invented by Africans?
>>
>>216016789
They used to know how to fish, but they forgot because growing potatoes made them lazy. That's why they all starved to death during the potato famine despite being surrounded by water.
>>
>>216013616
>https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Fabulist_Metamorphosed_and_Mythologi.html?id=s3uK0AEACAAJ&redir_esc=y
>1634
>>
>>216016829
Taters must be bad for your memory, best avoid them
>>
>>216014958
It was rebunked shortly after.
>>
>>216016851
But they taste so good. Boil 'em, mash' em, stick 'em in a stew...
>>
>>216012655
Europeans aren't native to Europe, they came from Africa.
>>
File: 1763217937887513.png (279 KB, 680x570)
279 KB
279 KB PNG
>LOTR
>Europe
>>
>>216016877
But gollum didn't eat potatoes but he forgot about them, I dunno what to think now.
>>
>>216016829
The British forbade them from fishing and having boats when they turned the place into a plantation. They don’t think it be like it is, but she was
>>
>>216012655
someone boil, mash, and stick this anon in a stew! filthy little hobbit
>>
>>216016886
africans aren't native to africa, they are turds from satan's butthole
>>
File: rop.jpg (6 KB, 183x275)
6 KB
6 KB JPG
You can accept nigger black elves but you can't accept potatoes?
>>
>>216012655
where do you think they originate?
>>
>>216013308
aww poor lactoselet can't digest dairy, boo hoo
>>
>>216013262
>>216013589
Why do people fall for such low quality bait
>>
>>216014074
orc
>>
>>216013262
They ate a diet that allowed them to conquer your weak ancestors.
>>
>>216014193
exactly, they hack up each other to this day when peckish.... what even is this thread. plenty of root vegetables, cabbage, parsnip, herbs, berries, nuts, etc.... learn to agriculture subhumans.
or at least forage.
>>
File: exchange.jpg (542 KB, 1000x1000)
542 KB
542 KB JPG
>>216013262
>No onions
>No garlic
I'd rather have those two than the entirety of new world crops.
>>
>>216012655
>>216013080
The Shire is directly based on rural Victorian England which did in fact have potatoes, tomatoes, and tobacco
>>
>>216014341
Dey eat da poo poo
>>
>>216017437
Native Americans had Allium species that are similar to onions and garlic.
>>
>>216017437
this pic is false
>>
>>216017593
This, the americas also gave us syphilis.
>>
>>216017599
lol
>>
>>216017562
The alliums also left the crystal skulls.
>>
>>216016841
nigger copy paste the citation you want to have people read
>>
>>216014331
>This is why the European colonists were often half a foot taller than the savages they subdued, far more robust and healthy.
How come some African countries have huge people as well? I swear all the Ethiopian immigrants I see are at least 6'5
>>
>>216014341
Couldn't they just hunt and forage like anyone who either doesn't know how to cultivate their land or has land too shit to cultivate with their current tech? Depending on your region in Africa there can be food everywhere around you, also if you take time periods in to account some regions were easier to cultivate than today due to terrain and climate change (sahara 4000 bc iirc) or were ideal farming lands (Nile Valley).

Pretty funny to imagine millions of africans just digging around idly for roots though I have to admit.
>>
>>216017437
What about in Australia?
>>
>>216013684
If Mexico is so great why do they all desperately want to leave?
>>
>>216013645
>was
IS
>>
>>216015686
quintessential amerimutt lmao
>>
>>216014646
most African food I've had so far has been delicious, although that makes sense since I've only had it in the USA, the worst stuff probably doesn't make the trip here or can't be made for lack of local ingredients. Or I guess they were only giving me white people food.
>>
>>216015031
iirc he first wrote the hobbit and then expanded that into lotr, maybe he regrets some of the stuff he put in the hobbit that he didn't make sense in the larger setting he later imagined.
>>
ooof Timmy is mad kek
Also I had a white friend who had milk with his dinner, like we would be eating spaghetti and he would chug milk with it, I love milk but wtf
>>
>>216018545
This is like when I make a small town to start with on SimCity, lose dozens of hours making a big city and then have to raze my old town for space and coherence but can't bring myself to do it, Tolkin shoulda just retconned everything he didn't enjoy.
>>
>>216016511
I think you mean France and Spain, while the other anon means UK and Netherlands netherlands has some dope food but it's mostly colonial imports
>>
>>216012655
boy I hope someone got fired for that blunder
>>
>>216015076
My roommate in college DMd in almost this exact way and we always had a blast, it didn't go over well when we tried to bring new players in though.
>>
>>216013262
Consider that nutrition is the best contributer to evolutionary advancement, including intelligence, and Europeans developed as the most intelligent peoples in the world.
>>
>>216018385
The population of sub-saharan Africa was pitifully low up until the 1900s because no one wanted to go into the interior. It wasn't until the latter half of the 19th century when they discovered that quinine prophylaxis could prevent malaria that even Europeans who nominally owned the regions even dared to venture past coastal cities. It was seen as a death sentence to walk into the African interior because of all the diseases - you had less than a 50% chance to survive for one year. So outside of the coasts, Africa south of the sahara was just an isolated oogabooga region for all that time. And that's why its population has exploded over the past century.
>>
File: Ackually_560_420.jpg (24 KB, 480x320)
24 KB
24 KB JPG
>>216014928
Ackkshually horses originally evolved in North America and before dying out there migrated to Asia/Europe.
>>
>>216018663
I dunno about all that anon, I was just going off of a documentary about Africa 4000bc I saw a few years ago, most of it was focused on Nabta Playa but there was some historical context and a bit about cattle worship back when they were an agricultural society. You're talking about the state of sub-saharan Africa in like 1600 onwards which is literally a different geography and people.
Hopefully aliens or reptilians give us timetravel machines soon so we can verify this ourselves.
>>
>>216015706
Isn't everyone in the USA mixed to some degree though? Anytime one of you guys comes over for work or studying or free healthcare they're always mixed, they're usually wealthy though so that might be a bias there.
>>
>>216016904
Orcs eat potatoes > fish eat orc poop > gollum eats fish > gollum forgets

Easy peasy.
>>
>>216017047
Did the black elves bring potatoes from Valinor?
>>
>>216012655
Explain the potato famine, then
>>
>>216012655
What does this have to do with the fictional (in this world) land of "Europe"? The people depicted are not European, they're Elvish.
>>
>>216018967
That's not Elvis, it's Samwise you fucking prick.
>>
>>216013262
Europe did have spices, we imported them from India. The sole reason why Europeans discovered America is because the Turks fucked up traditional trade routes to India and we had to look for alternatives.
>>
PO-TA-TO FA-MINE
>>
File: toes.png (18 KB, 202x255)
18 KB
18 KB PNG
>>216013093
were PO-TA-TOES in the books or was that a Jackson addition?
>>216013262
olives
>>216017424
and what are White people eating now as their own cultures get conquered by non-Whites?
>>
>>216018297
their bodies are mostly legs, small torsos. small brains. just legs and arms
>>
>>216018580
milk with dinner is normal for some. not erebody drank grape watah wit dinnR
>>
>>216020193
I also love milk at every meal, but even I admit it's not common and people usually remark on my habit. I don't care though, love that milk! Although it is getting more expensive recently in my area unfortunately...
>>
>>216019510
"‘Po – ta – toes. The Gaffer’s delight, and rare good ballast for an empty belly. But you won’t find any, so you neednt look. But be good Smeagol and fetch me the herbs, and I’ll think better of you What’s more, if you turn over a new leaf, and keep it turned, I’ll cook you some taters one of these days. I will, fried fish and chips served by S. Gamgee. You couldn’t sayy no to that."

I like that keeping the leaf turned, never saw that before.
>>
NEEP
>>
>>216014928
They existed but were too delicious.
>>
>>216012655
Food isn't native to India.
>>
>>216013093
retard
>>
>>216017437
This trade doesn't seem worth it
>>
>>216013262
Why do you think they killed each other so the time?
>>
File: 1759888056735834.jpg (212 KB, 1024x1024)
212 KB
212 KB JPG
>>216012655
Elves aren't native to Europe either
>>
>>216012655
Potatoes are from Peru and Bolivia ?
Are we the original hobbits ?
>>
File: uhmfishsticks.jpg (52 KB, 400x362)
52 KB
52 KB JPG
>>216021288
is that a row of bacon?



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.