Absolute kino about the genesis of fascism
>>216015756>Premise: Residents of present-day Rijeka, Croatia reenact images of Gabriele D'Annunzio's 1919–1920 occupation of the city.This may be the most fartsniffing arthouse dreck I have ever read.
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What's the point of /pol/ baiting on /tv/ using a random arthouse movie.Also Gabriele D'Annunzio wasn't even a fascist in the modern sense of the world. He probably would have turned further left if he lived longer, he was already telling Mussolini not to ally with Hitler before dying.>>216015803It's a cool concept although it's all about how it's executed, good concepts can be fucked up. Movie is sadly not on any torrents yet. You always have to wait like a year or even more till these kind of obscure arthouse movies appear on torrents.
>>216015840I don't get it? I call out pretentious bullshit, thus I am a mexican? Seems like terminal stage coping bro
>>216015958>Pretentious Buzzword used by midwit browns with zero taste.
>In 1918, this city, with its significant ethnic Italian population, was known as Fiume and was formerly ruled by the recently destroyed Habsburgs. After the war it was not absorbed into the victorious Italian nation as many expected but left under the control of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (whose name was later changed to Yugoslavia). Enraged by this betrayal, hothead Italian aristocrat, poet and cocaine addict Gabriele D’Annunzio led a bizarre insurgency with 186 mercenaries or “legionaries”, with whom he carried out a sub-Napoleonic landing in Fiume and established it as a kind of pro-Italian city state under his absolute control.History is so kino
>>216016006"Pretentious" has a meaning, there is no buzz whatsoever. Learn the language, then you can play the pseud clown here, how about that?
>>216016053The meaning is "pretending to be more than it is" and I don't see how this applies to a historical reconstruction movie.Not to mention that death of the author kinda makes this whole thing void, a movie cannot pretend to be anything, a movie is what it is. An author, the person can pretend, but you don't have to give a shit about what they have to say. I mean /tv/ in regular makes fun of "media literacy" thing.And accounting all this, when people use the word pretentious they don't use it according to it's meaning usually but rather "this movie is conceptually /, aesthetically different from what I am used to, therefore I will seethe".
>>216015958Stfu gonzalez
>>216015871>Also Gabriele D'Annunzio wasn't even a fascist in the modern sense of the worldIdk what the modern sense of the word is but the conquest of Fiume in many ways prefigured Mussolini's march on Rome
>>216016149didn't ask lol
>>216016894on god fr
>>216015756d'annuzio was a kino mf it's about time there was a film about him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yxF6zMKcao
>>216015803>gypsies seething about fascismcolour me surprised
>>216015871>he was already telling Mussolini not to ally with Hitler before dying.That was obvious advice to anybody
>>216017232why are chuds so often homos?
>>216017328Masculinitymaxxing
>>216017328
Italian fascists were clowns. I know chuds praise Mussolini cause he was heckin wholesome unlike evil Hitler but he had 20 years to install fascism in Italy and they folded like a wet paper. Literally nobody in Italy cared about it.
>>216017163Italian nationalists are the real Gypsies
>>216015871> Also Gabriele D'Annunzio wasn't even a fascistThe dude basically invented fascism, but okNeat idea for a movie though> directed by Igor BrezinovicShan't watch. No need to spoil my enotrian eyes with slavofilic propaganda. I bet all the Croats and slovenes living there are portrayed as nuns, artists and scholars and trying to fend off the scary legionari. Reminder that Fiume was majority Italian right after ww1>>216016022We used to be a propa countryDuring the end of WW1, D'annunzio and his team flew their planes over Vienna and threw over the city a thousand of pamphlets filled with futuristic poems and several kilograms of ham bones. It truly was a kino time
>>216016527>Idk what the modern sense of the word isYes you do, you disingenuous cunt.
>>216019176>I bet all the Croats and slovenes living there are portrayed as nuns, artists and scholars and trying to fend off the scary legionari.The Croats are barely present in the film, except present-day street interviews with them. It's mostly focused on d'Annunzio.D'Annunzio himself is played by several Croats, one of whom was a veteran of the Croatian War of Independence. A critic from The Guardian thought this was a deliberate move on the part of the (leftist) director, subtly associating Croatia's nation-building mythos with fascism or something.
>>216019307>A critic from The Guardian thought this was a deliberate move on the part of the (leftist) director, subtly associating Croatia's nation-building mythos with fascism or something.It is this. You don't get a movie financed anymore (ever since we joined the EU) if it's not pro-LGBTQ+++, anti-White, anti-Croatian, anti-European, anti-Christian etc. All these people are mafia scum giving EU money to each other basically.
>>216019725Because right-wing Croatian cinema is tasteless kitsch. That's just how it is
>>216019307>>216019725this is an insane reach, i don't doubt the director is a leftist (almost every creative type is) but this interpretation is far fetchedif the role was played by a single actor and that actor was that veteran guy then maybe, but when he is one of many people playing the role?
>>216015871>What's the point of /pol/ baiting on /tv/ using a random arthouse movie.it's either that or to discuss a scene involving an underage child. There's no inbetween.
>>216019964Dude literally everything funded in the past 10+ years is "serbs good, croats bad, fuck christ, fuck whites, blacks good, turks good, muslims good, lesbians oppressed, gays oppressed, every croat is ustasha slaughterer, everyone who doesn't vote for nepalese immigration is a dumb hick" etc. No one watches any of these movies, they get like 10 seats sold.
>>216019964>this is an insane reachYeah it is kinda reaching lol. But in any case this isn't a "pro-Croatian" film in any way>many people playing the roleI honestly don't get what the deal was with multiple people playing d'Annunzio btw
>>216020051i haven't seen the film, and it's not out anywhere on torrents so i can't theorize on the point of multiplie actors playing the rolebut it's not a new thing, Todd Haynes did a Dylan biopic like that and it worked great (yes, i realized this is a much different movie)
Italians and Croats killed each other over Fiume/Rijeka and now it's rightful Nepali gigachad clay
>>216020051>I honestly don't get what the deal was with multiple people playing d'Annunzio btwProbably copied the gimmick from the Bob Dylan thing from some years ago.
>>216020109>and it's not out anywhere on torrentsIt's on VK which means it's probably out on private trackers
>>216020022>Croat chud conflating American issues with his little irrelevant shithole
>>216020022the point of European government funding of movies is that it's supposed to be "for the sake of art" not money, so they don't really care about how much seats are soldand yes, obviously even tho it's meant to be done so that art in general is supported even if not having lowest common denominator appeal there are still shit like censorship and favouring one project to the other, and because the EU government is leftist it favours leftist movies (although if right wingers wanted to they'd be making underground indie films themselves, before leftist stuff started to become supported so hard it still existed in a self-funded underground and this is one of the reasons leftism managed to push itself eventually into culture, it starts from the bottom)
>>216020138I really wish I lived in a good Eastern European country like Poland, but now I don't have the money to move anymore, and I have to die in a ditch in this fucking shithole.
>>216020178>American issues?Are you really so stupid that you don't know that they're funding the same thing literally everywhere? In Serbia it's Serbs genocidal Serbs bad Albanians good Shiptars victims etc.
>>216020153That's a lot different because you had celebrities playing different aspects of Dylan's persona.Here it's random guys off the street all playing d'Annunzio and they're edited seamlessly
>>216020153i doubt Todd Haynes was even the first one to do that anon>>216020176it's not on cinemaz that's for sure, didn't know it was up on VK
>>216020179>the point of European government funding of movies is that it's supposed to be "for the sake of art" not money, so they don't really care about how much seats are soldNo shit. The problem is that this only ever worked in Yugoslavia and then about 5-10 years after the war (although the majority of the movies already had foreign funding and foreign propaganda). Now all you get is the same shit from the same people.>although if right wingers wanted to they'd be making underground indie films themselveslol
>>216020184LolwutPoland has the same issues as Croatia and same living standard but with much uglier nature and cities
>>216020208Maybe you shouldn't slaughter your neighbors? Ever thought of that?
>>216020179>although if right wingers wanted to they'd be making underground indie films themselvesHonestly I think that "Croatian right wing" is a worldview that can't really produce kino. What would you even make movies about? The Independence War, ad nauseam?
>>216020251>lolThat's literally how it was with leftists. And it ended up being effective. It can work the other way around. >Now all you get is the same shit from the same people.I'm not an expert on Croatian cinema. I found out about the movie in OP early this year while browsing Rotterdam Film Festival lineup, and the director seemed very obscure. If you mean same people as in the same worldview, then sure, although it always works like this, someone's politics end up dominating the field.
The conquest of Fiume, aka The First Norwood Uprising
>>216020269>Poland has the same issues as CroatiaWhen you go walk/drive through the streets in your city how many browns do you see in an hour? I saw 25+ the other day.
>>216020414Poland is also getting gigabrowned. Polish nationalist accounts on X expose the jeet/Filipino importation schemes happening there
>>216020330For a mild "right wing" kino, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Dark_Night which describes the war and the post-war communist period with extreme accuracy so I can't really call it right wing, but every gay loser from every leftist institution will.
>>216020382>If you mean same people as in the same worldview, then sure,No I mean literally the same small cliques and their kids/grandkids/etc. that have been in power for a hundred years. In every industry you have like 5 people you have to deal with and they've been holding it since forever.
>>216020454Is every single food delivery driver brown? We got 10% of our population replaced with Nepalese "workers" who get subsidized by the EU, as well as their "employers" (which are politician mafia and their families) who get tax breaks and bonuses for employing them over a Croat.
>>216020330We were essentially a "leftist ethnicity" for all of history because we were surrounded, occupied or drafted as cannon fodder by larger nations and empires.Right-wing Croatian nationalism emerged with Ustaše, which is bad optics for cinema, and they were essentially tools of Italian/German imperialism anyway lol. Right-wing nationalism for small nations always rings hollow
>>216020551Relying on dumb American left/right wing definitions is shit in the first place, but yes, in a colony, it makes even less sense.
Italian fascism is crazy because they didn't need hyperinflation or an economic crisis as a pretext to turn their country into schizo chudtopia, they did it purely for love of the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsTqJjDG2Xo
>>216015871>>216016527>ethno-nationalist conquest is leftwingretardyour definition of fascism boils down to "people and things i dislike"
>>216019204What is it, conservatism in general including Charlie Kirk? In that case d'Annunzio was also a fascist, as he was more radical than Charlie Kirk
