del Toro just proved how pretentious Robert Eggers is as a filmaker.
No he did that himself by making conan the barbarian for racially insecure nicole kidman fans
>>216022070Eggers is 1000x better. It's not even a contest.
>>216022113
>>216022070I think at least 70% of the movie should have been dialogues between Victor and the monster.
>>216022169>tfw mom says no McDonald's for dinner
>>216022070by making a mid streaming movie where frankenweenie is a gay aaa homo?
>>216022070Dude I saw this in the theater completely sober and kept almost falling asleep. The sound design alone of Nosferatu was better than this entire movie.
this movie was very funny, like very ridiculously funny, also most characthers were irrelevant in the first part, i enjoyed it, but Nosferatu is way better.props for not having niggers on it
>>216022225KEK
>>216022070Eggers has yet to make a good film. Del Toro's name is on a lot of trash but he has some worthwhile works.
Eggers movies are too serious and boring and slowDel Taco's movies all played like a high budget Mexican soap opera and never feel serious enough for the serious parts, also all the sets/costumes look very obviously like sets/costumes
Does anyone remember if The Strain was done on film, and if his recent movies have been digital? I don't think Navarro was everything, but the last thing del Toro made that really looked good (sometimes) was The Strain. The lighting has been way too flat in his recent movies, even if the design is still excellent.
>>216022208wasn't it though?
>>216022070somehow frankenstein's monster returned
Eggers already proved that himself when he said the thought of having to film a car makes him sick.What a preposterous faggot.
>>216022225Hehe
>>216022225shame you missed the get
>>216022070Eggers blows Del Toro out of the water. I know Del Toro is this lovable guy with a lot of passion for this sort of thing, but his Frankenstein movie isnt that good and it honestly looks bad. It visually looks like modern CGI, low effort, netflix slop. Eggers really did make Nosferatu his own thing while still keeping the old style there without it being corny.
>>216022169lmao bitch has literally no tits at all
I feel like a lot of the reason this and similar films get praised by normalfags is because they never engage with media older than a few years at best, so older stories adapted poorly come across like masterpieces to them because they have no frame of reference.
>>216022070Is it as good as nightmare alley
I liked both movies.
>>216022070Del Toro is pretty mediocre in my book. Is this shit really worth watching?
>>216022169you just know the cast and crew applauded her after this take
>>216022169shake it till you make it
>>216024158You're a retarded person.
VICTOOOOOOORR
>>216024398LEARN HOW TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE GAWD! *Hits you with metal rod*
>>216024711victor…
>>216022158Only Reddit pseuds could think this
>>216022225Kino
0 seeders for frankenstein anatomy lesson but I refuse to use netflix.
>>216022070The dumbest scientific part about this movie was how he kept the bodies out for so long "on ice" and they didn't rot or get infested with maggots and flys.
>>216022070worse shit I've watched this year
>>216022070The color grading was overdone in this, but it was otherwise really cool.
>it was victor who was the monstarBROVA
I guess Del Toro is less pretentious, but I like them both.
>>216024158how many oscars eggboy got?
>>216025380Wasn't that the point of the book as well?
>>216025538yes
>>216022169we need weinstein back
>>216022070Frankenstein is Del Toro's passion project remake, and it ends up thoroughly mediocre, a weird misfire that avoids most of the stories themes and most famous parts in favor of focusing on themes Del Toro prefers.Nosferatu is Eggers' passion project remake, and it winds up being just plain bad, full of awful performances and sexual obscenity. Frankenstein isn't great, but it's ten times better than Egger's Nosferatu.
>>216025912This always happens when these kind of directors up their own ass on their passion projects. The comparisons to Jackson’s King Kong are very accurate.
2020 Invisible Man: cuck fetish sideplot Nosferatu: cuck fetish sideplot Del Tapatio’s Frankenstein: cuck fetish sideplot why are they so obsessed with this, why does it affect classic “universal monster” types the most?
>>216022070i dont even know what the fuck this sentence means
>>216024025I dont actually think they spoke more than a few words to each other which is absolutely insane now that I think about it.
Del toro is a fucking hack
>>216026155see it this way, now cuckoldry is sublty associated with monstrous, evil and sinister forces
>>216022169OMG it's like shes POSSESED or something!
>>216022401>Eggers has yet to make a good film
>>216022295>this movie was very funny, like very ridiculously funny, also most characthers were irrelevant in the first part
Both are kinda boring if I’m being honest
>>216022070Both suck unironically
>>216022295>but Nosferatu is way betterfuck off eggers
Why does every adaptation cut the most kino part?>“Yet such must be the impression conveyed to you by what appears to be the purport of my actions. Yet I seek not a fellow feeling in my misery. No sympathy may I ever find. When I first sought it, it was the love of virtue, the feelings of happiness and affection with which my whole being overflowed, that I wished to be participated. But now that virtue has become to me a shadow, and that happiness and affection are turned into bitter and loathing despair, in what should I seek for sympathy? I am content to suffer alone while my sufferings shall endure; when I die, I am well satisfied that abhorrence and opprobrium should load my memory. Once my fancy was soothed with dreams of virtue, of fame, and of enjoyment. Once I falsely hoped to meet with beings who, pardoning my outward form, would love me for the excellent qualities which I was capable of unfolding. I was nourished with high thoughts of honour and devotion. But now crime has degraded me beneath the meanest animal. No guilt, no mischief, no malignity, no misery, can be found comparable to mine. When I run over the frightful catalogue of my sins, I cannot believe that I am the same creature whose thoughts were once filled with sublime and transcendent visions of the beauty and the majesty of goodness. But it is even so; the fallen angel becomes a malignant devil. Yet even that enemy of God and man had friends and associates in his desolation; I am alone.”
>>216026897cause this is a movie and not a book
>>216022169AND DO THE HARLEM SHAKE
>>216026932The fallen angel allegory is the most important theme in the monster's story.
>>216022169>when your step-mother shits on the furniture
Frankenstein is Del Toro's worst film, second to Mimic. Nightmare Alley was also mediocre
>>216024779GDT is reddit personyfied
>>216025912what are the story's* themes that del Toro neglected?
>>216022158better at being shit, definitely
Has there ever been a “master of horror” like del taco that has never made an actually iconic horror movie?
>>216027650yeah, he's the master of marketing himself. always has been.
>>216024187No.
>>216022169>when Chad leaves you on read
why did they make frankenstein have a normal iqisnt frankenstein supposed to be a big bumbling retard?
>>216022169>women when you tell them no
>>216022113I only ever see racially insecure people shitting on Northman its kinda pathetic
>>216022158This. Del Toro is for manchildren
>>216027811No one has watched that flick
>>216024025They speak to each other twice in the movie. Right before Victor dies and during the wedding. The rest of it is before the monster can speak english properly.
Why do reddit fags gravitate towards his slop so much? His Frankenstein was worse that Brannagh's and that's saying a lot.
The book isn’t very good and the only reason anyone gives a shit about Frankenstein is because of the Universal movie which improved on the book in every way. Had they just made a straight up adaption of an asshole Victor who rejects the monster because it’s ugly and the monster just looked like ugly zombie sperging out because Victor didn’t make him a woman, it would be completely forgotten today. They never would made endless adoptions.
>>216022113I like the Northman because it is stunning like a series of paintings.
>>216027650He won the academy award for best picture for a creature feature. That's iconic, even if the fish fucking movie is trash.
More like Guantanamo Del Taco.
Why didn't he take the opportunity to cast a Boricua as The Monster?
>>216025912Your passion project probably shouldn't be a remake.
>>216028293This. And he offered absolutely nothing we haven’t seen before with Frankenstein or better.
>>216028019lol the movie barely looks different from a thor movie
>>216027984Absolutely braindead take, the book IS genuinely good, and a good take on solitude, guilt, and revengeSame thing happens to Dracula, the adaptions range from putrid trash to mid horror film and the only thing that remains is the pop figure of the Monster.
>>216028495>”the book isn’t very good”>b-but these things happen in the book!It’s probably the only book you’ve reabecause it was required reading in high school, it’s slop, no woman has ever written a great book.
>>216028458Because they both feature scenes shot in the Fjords?
>>216022070I hated this movie. The visual style, the colour schemes, ... The fact that it feels so EMPTY. Victor is in his "castle" / lab all alone supposedly? This movie feels soulless, the only good part was the artic. UNTIL the creature decided to eloquently tell his side of the story (which also falls flat because there are parts in "his side" that are pure Victors POV as well. It doesn't make sense that Victors POV is soley Victor but the creatures is both? There is no clear cutaway to "epilogue" or a chapter for the ending (sure, minor grievance on my part) but that the least of the movies concern.The acting is good, sure, but the movie just looks like ass and is so empty and devoid of life.
>>216028538I’m gonna to create book about a reanimated dead guy who learns how to speak and read in no time to the point he’s waxing poetry about his incel existence.
>>216022169>>216022070
>>216025912I didn't get the lack of segues in Eggers's Nosferatu. Was it to replicate a fever dream? I understood what was happening in what I was watching but I didn't know how I got there. I take every Eggers movie as having a psychedelic element (ergot in the VVitch, tainted cistern water in the Lighthouse, and magic mushrooms in the Northman) so I took plague induced fever to be that for Nosferatu. But damn, I never understood how it felt to be very confused and not confused at all at the same time.
>>216024184zoomCHAD here, you're absolutely right. i just don't have the patience to sit and read a book. loved the movie, though.
>>216022070del toro is a jeet tier hack with a fetish for dreadfully ugly hags
both are idiots for remaking classics, they should do more original work, nu nosferatu and frankenstein are pointless trash
that frankenstein "design" i saw so many fucking times it is not even funny anymore, same color palette, same big rounded window as light source, same lightning of scene etc.
at least mr. slow-speaker nosferatu sucked tits of depp's daughter
>>216022070no
Biggest thing annoys me is how generic The Monster looks. He did it entirely to appeal to stupid women. There is nothing cool, distinct or memorable at all about his look. I’ll give Eggers credit for atleast making his Nosferatu atleast stand out
>>216027904I don't see any 4chan natives praising Eggers in contrast, or redditfags liking Pacific Rim (outside of drug circles), or redditfags liking his Hellboy movies. I only see sardonic fag pricks liking his shitty remake of Black Lagoon, or stuff like the Book of Life and one is to shill interracial shit even though it's a fish and the other is because it's mexican shit and looks like the Disney one but has more meme material. And finally, I never see any niggers online whatsoever praise Pan's Labyrinth without being paid to do so (it goes 80 miles over their heads)
>>216022169lmao ACTING.. in a MOVIE1?
>>216028830kek... zoomers really think that's acting these days
>>216028822posters on this board never shut the fuck up about eggers because they think he’s secretly based for the white race and pans labyrinth was much beloved by the most annoying SA goons and digg users when the movie was contemporary. it still gets brought up online a lot.
>>216028830I don’t blame Eggers for this. She was a last minute replacement. It was suppose to be Anya Taylor Joy but she pulled out last minute because she could not make her schedule work with Furiosa
>>216028855Curiously effeminate syntax, "anon."
>>216022070>Robert Eggers is a self-satisfied hack who doesn't know what subtlety is, how lighting works, or how to put integrity and nobility into his work.>Guillermo del Toro is a childish hack who doesn't know what nuance is, what makes a film captivating, or how to stick to a suitable and consistent tone.Both fucking suck, this isn't some sort of false dichotomy.
>Robert Eggers, two hit wonder : VVitch and Lighthouse that’s it
>>216028458>>216027863>>216022113
>its another popular name bad thread of 4chanzzzzzzzzz
>>216025912>sexual obscenity
>>216024398pokemon ass nigga
>>216022070Why? Did eggers like this pretentious film?
>>216028858thank god Anya was spared from that humiliation (not saying Furiosa was good but still)
>>216022070lol no, Eggers' Nosferatu mogs Frankenstein hard.
>>216029195Same with del Toro, he only has Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy II.
>>216029292>not saying Furiosa was goodBut it was.
>>216029620compared to fury road? Nah
>>216024184Pretentious prick!
>>216026897Bollocks, in the story the moster was an evil violent bastard right from the very beginning. Fallen angel my ass.
>>216022169she should have collapsed on the ground, it would have made it less goofy and more believable.
>>216024398KEK
I couldn't even make it through Frankenstein. They're both pretty close in terms of length but in Nosferatu I felt interested throughout, whereas Frankenstein just kept fucking dragging. Del Taco just doesn't have it anymore, and the script was absolute dogshit in terms of pacing.
>>216022169>>216028633>when he doesn't have netflix, prime, disney+ or HBO max
>>216028666>i just don't have the patience to sit and read a book.Dude, WHAT THE FUCK?
>>216029231Did you enjoy seeing Dracula's wang? Did you enjoy watching a corpse make out with and fuck an ugly woman?
>>216025912Nosferatu looks amazing, but suffers from being extremely slow paced and focuses too much on Orlok being zesty.
>>216030825Even the unfaithful 1931 movie knew that the monster being "born with sin" was a crucial story element.
>>216030992Your opinion is exactly how I feel, but with Nosferatu and Frankenstein reversed
Del Toro's good at putting out good looking movies but they're usually flawed or well, boring as shit. Comparing these two at this point in careers is stupid as hell.
>>216027182And Nosferatu is Eggers' worst film. The VVitch is the best film he made, which is funny because I saw an interview where he said it's the movie he directed that he likes the least. He said his favorite is The Lighthouse, which is fair, since it's a good one. But The VVitch mogs Nosferatu.
Looks like a Disney movie for 15 year old edgy kids.
>>216022169eggers is a fucking hack
Why zoomers and cucks gets so rabid when somebody has criticisms of this movie, not even hate just "this part was dumb" or "why change this?" , have so many people online wanting to kill a reviewer that said "8/10" could be better
>>216022169IIIIIII AAAAAAAAMMMM AAAAAACTIIIIIIING
>>216022070How did he do that?? Both movies for me were pretty much on the same tier of "decent". Both had cool things, but nothing blew me away in either
Can someone explain to me how Del Toro has a new thing releasing every month? I swear every time I look there's some new Del Toro film or TV show up. What's going on there?
Why the fuck Elizabeth was writen like a fucking whore?
>>216032539they have never seen good cinema, so theyre very rabid
>>216022169Me when they say robbery eggers sucks.
>>216022169She's being possessed and mindfucked by an undead demon her entire life. How is she suppose to act?
>>216025932Don’t compare King Kino Kong 2005 with this shit you nigger.
>>216022070So true
>>216022169This is funny
>>216022070i didnt even love this movie but i'm craving more 19th century sci fi shit. is this steam punk? I feel like it is but when I think steampunk I think much more obnoxious and gay.
>>216033223Could be dieselpunk
>>216022169>We have Possession at home:
>>216033223Well then it’s less obnoxious and gay steampunk lmao
>>216022070>Shit vs Ass
>>216022113>t. Racially insecure
>>216034546sex>>216022169pass
>>216024331>refutes nothing
>>216026631Based little white nerd with good takes making poop faces seethe
>>216028458>brown manchild
I’ve noticed libtards and trannies hate the northman
>>216034734the Northman sucked
>>216022169lol girl Act ing, have a bizarre seizure or some shit.
>>216022070>these braces look dumb>mexicans are the worst latinos>I wish I was working with a real director like Alex Garland
>>216028019oh yeah, perfect shiny white teeth vikings, i remember those scandinavian dentists being really ahead of their time, especially towards their slaves. one of the fakest looking movies i've seen recently
>>216034784It’s greatSay why you think it’s bad
>>216034984Post letterboxd tyrone martinez
>>216022070why, because frankenstein looked like hot garbage and every eggers film looks beautiful?>VICTOR, YOU ARE THE REAL MONSTER
>>216035013I loved hellboys and pacific rim but this movie looks like ai dei cgi slop
>>216025912huh?
>>216035028>scene in victor's library>"is this whole background cgi?">first time seeing the monster>"why is he moving like that, is he CGI?">cgi animals out the wazoo>cgi smoke and fire>google "frankenstein CGI">get pic relatedso either he's lying about not using CGI as extensively as he did, or his crap cinematography made everything look like it was from a video game even if it was real
>>216035100It looks like bad marvel and you have people itt trying to say the vastly superior northman looked like marvelShills are laughable
>>216022070Oscar Isaac has a very big head
>>216022070I like both Eggers and del Toro. Different directors have different styles dummy.
>>216035261I like some of both of them but hate their misfires (nosferatu, pans labrynth)
No Igor, no watch. Simple as.
>>216022070Frankenstein was a lot more coherent and enjoyable than Nosferatu which was indeed highly pretentious. Kinda sick of the constant remakes of Dracula, The Wolfman and Frankenstein. Can we get another classic horror villain adapted to cinema?
>>216022070would have been a more interesting movie if Victor wasn't the most irredeemably horrible piece of shit
people keep telling me the movie is awesome but i couldnt give less of a shit about it. in fact if it wasnt so popular, id call it slop and never think about it again. why do people like it so much? i was comparing it to the book the whole time, if that helps
>>216022070Went in with low expectations but was surprised at how good this was. Even as a remake, it felt original. A bit too long but never boring and actually had an heart. On the other hand, watching Nosferatu, I couldn’t stop wondering, what’s the point of the same thing for the third or forth time. Dull af movie for poseurs.
>>216022113post hands
>>216022169>women when you tell them there's more books out there than just AI-generated pornography
>>216035013>computer give me a hat wobble
>>216028844Name an example of acting.
>>216022158Prime 00s Del Toro was better than Eggers
>>216039002
>>216029631Compared to fucking a 290yo romanian. Yeah.
>>216025912Wow, a non NPC, rare
>>216028293Like Megalopolis from Coppola, OMEGALULPassion project rarely works in cinema and often works in videogames. Probably the media limits. Genre fetters. You can't explain your soul to the audience, without them actually doing something. Pushing the buttons,etc
The very fact that Victor rejects the monster because he was dim witted, and NOT because he was ugly, defeats even the very things the movie tries to achieve
The fact this movie got almost no threads after it released in october because it only got added to netflix in november just shows how few people go to the cinema these days
>>216034986Viking version of the Hamlet that somehow took less risks than the original. Eggers made the mother's actions more explicit but it did not lead to anything beyond the borderline incestual cuckold scene, Amleth's psych and relationship with notOphelia was not affected by the reveal at all. The answer to the main question of the story being "why not both?" was retarded, Amleth left his slavic slave wife and children without a father in Northern Europe during the dark ages, he definitely isn't protecting her like the narrative pretends he isAlso the visuals were mediocre, Eggers first films had better shots than the last 2 and they were made with shoestring budgets
>.avif>.webpWHAT IS GOING ONI JUST WANT TO POST A PICTURE
>>216039898The greatest film review ever written is Harry Knowles' review of Blade 2.
>>216022169Woah, that's a lot of acting she did.
>>216040250neither are what happened though, see: wedding night scene where Victor regrets his actions, saying the creature is a monstrous devil and his creation itself was madness (coping and denying his failures and self)why are so many detractors unable to correctly parse and characterize what the film actually sought to achieve and what it did not do?
>>216022070they are both pretentious and dishonest filmmakersthey will be celebrated in the new bolshevik world for being degenerates
>>216028822>I don't see any 4chan natives praising EggersWhatever you say election tourist.
>>216022070>Makes a boring pretentious movie with high school play level dialogue that is nothing but a blatant vanity project Yeah he sure showed him
>>216022169she's hystericalget the dehysteria machine
>>216022169>women when they can't fuck the chad vampire lord and have to stay with their cuck betrothed
>>216022225lol
>>216022169She is so ugly. Worst looking nepo daughter in Hollyjew.
>>216043017right here doctor
