why tf is this so important to americans?
Americans think this is a legitimately good film. Even if they recognize the rest of Kevin Smith's films as the unbridled trash that they are, Clerks is somehow good.
How many dicks do you think k you could suck in a row OP?
>>216023749Mallrats is better. But the America of these films doesn't exist anymore. The clerk is an Indian, and the mall is empty except for the few Indians running kiosks.
it isn'tthe cartoon is what we really love
>>216023749It's a 7/10 at best anon, I don't think we 'Americans' herald it as a masterpiece.
>>216023801>Mallrats is betterAgreed.
>>2160238067/10 falls within the realm of good. My post stands. Also, if I rated movies out of 10 like a constipated looking melon, I'd give Clerks a 3.
>>216023726It was about white culture. You wouldn't understand, Sukdeep. You will never be accepted by whites and are treated less and different than we would treat a white person. You have to understand this or you may go insane wondering why you're treated the way you are by whites. You are Apu yo us.
>>216023726Smith recently said it was because a lot of Americans had worked a job like one of the lead characters. I think he’s right.>>216023801Mallrats sucks ass.
>>216023726It's quintessential 90s Americana. You wouldn't get it. Being a brown foreigner and all.
>>216023850>Mallrats sucks assSo does Clerks, but Mallrats is fun kitsch.
>>216023850It's pretty universal even today that everyone's worked one of "those" kind of jobs with "those" kind of weirdo fucker customers and co-workers, and everyone relates to just trying to get through the day and the weird little pointless acts of rebellious bullshit you do to alleviate the boredom. The consistent weakness across all the Clerks movies is just that Dante is a completely miserable and unlikable bag of shit and I'm still not sure if Smith is doing that intentionally
>>216023749It's true. He nailed it once and failed trying to chase it since.>>216023804Reddit opinion.
>>216023850he was, now zoomies cant relate to why a white person would work a job like that, hence the thread.
>>216023726This was just me of the first movies some guy made on his own by maxxing out his credit cards and then managed to spin into a mainstream career. Indie filmmaking was not common outside of the grindhouse ghetto.
>>216024488>Clerks movies is just that Dante is a completely miserable and unlikable bag of shit and I'm still not sure if Smith is doing that intentionallyOf course he is, Randall calls him out for being such a bitch at the end of the first one in like a 5 minute rant
>>216024577I know, it's that he keeps doubling the fuck down on it in 2 and I can only presume 3 before he dies but fuck me I'm never watching that
>>216023726It's Smith's best film by a country mile.t. Australian.
>>216023726Don't worry about it brown boy
>>216024633Hey, don't listen to what they say. Australians can be just as dumb as Americans.
>>216023749It is good, Muhammad.
>>21602379637^37
>>216023726Why are Americans so important to you?
>>216023726is it? I always figured it was one of those had to be there things. As in born somewhere between 1970 and 1990.
>>216024772I do live in America, but my name isn't Mohammed. Sorry.
>>216024814americans bombed my country, rejected my asylum, and made me gayt. OP
>>216024881Then why did you refer to Americans in third person as if you weren't an American, Abdul? >>216024897You probably shouldn't announce you're gay, Hakim, your govt may be watching you.
>>216024897Are you Serbian?
>>216024897kwab
>>216024919Wow, you caught me. I'm making general statements about Americans, while pretending to live in America. I should say, We Americans think Clerks is a legitimately good film. Oh well, I'll know for next time.
>>216025016>I should say, We Americans think Clerks is a legitimately good film.Yes, it is, isn't it? As you Muslims would say, it's "DA BOMB."
>>216023726Gen Xers all watched it thinking they were into indie art films and not fake corporate sell outs.
>>216024550Fag
it’s hard to imagine now but the conversations about star wars etc actually seemed novel and fresh
>>216026147There was also some fun SW dialogue in Armageddon, back when it used to have cultural relevancy. Then 2012 happened.
>>216026147also the mid 90s were the biggest lull in Star Wars relevanceStar Wars was an obscure thing to make reference to
>>216023726its not? i fucking hate this movie
>>216026338videogames kept the IP alive for the normie fans between the normies and the prequels. LucasArts put out some really popular star wars games.
>>216023850Sounds like you had sex in a very uncomfortable placeLike the back of a Volkswagen
>>216026549How is one videogame more compelling than anything Disney has been able to produce?
>>216026606Sovl
>>216023801Clerks Animated was prophetic.
It's good.t. America
it was always shit
>>216026338Mid 90s was when Star Wars had a huge resurgence, they had the trilogy re-release with remastered audio on LD in '93 and VHS in '95 (before the special editions fucked it all up two years later), the movies would be on TV every few months and toy stores would have entire aisles of Star Wars toys. It was what set the stage for the special editions and prequels.
>>216026606they didnt see it as their role to ideologically preach to their audience, only entertain them. A game in the same vein as Tie Fighter would never be made today and presented in the same manner they werent presenting the "bad guys" as cartoonish 2 dimensional nazis that you're required to hate because DONT THEY REMIND YOU OF SOMEONE*wink wink* that is all over the disney slop.
>>216024577Randall's worse than Dante, who at least TRIES to be nice. Randall is a cunt through and through, keeps Dante anchored to him purely out of jealousy and spite and will do whatever it takes to keep him from leaving him, and even admits in Clerks 2 that he's pure evil, hates EVERYONE, and wants to make everyone suffer.You can coexist with a Dante. Maybe even be friends. But a Randall will destroy your life just because it's funny to him and will be pure poison to everyone around him until you punch him in the face a couple of times and toss him in a ditch to get rid of him.
>>216023726It's essential 1994-core. It's basically a podcast presented as a movie.
>>216028191This. Randall is a monster and its insane how defensive Smith gets when fans point it out, to the point that he's made Dante even worse over the years just to piss off fans who like him over Randall
>>216023749Some of the highest praise I've seen from the film were from British critics
>>216023801>Mallrats better than ClerksWell there's a first time for everything. lol
>>216026147This is the reason why. Smith, for better or worse, can write a damn screenplay about the nerdiest shit ever and make it interesting and in the 90s this was considered avant garde and cutting edge. In a way, it helped pave the way to the current “everyone is 12 forever” cardboard cutout culture that we have now with adult man children who never grew up still watching children’s movies.
>>216028191Randall's ironically the most zoomer like of the Clerks crew. A "crabs in the bucket" incel who wasted his life getting high and obsessing over Star Wars, pissed away a dream job at a video rental place back when such a gig would have been a dream wage slave job, and severing all ties to his family in favor of dominating Dante, because Dante is a cuck who makes Randall feel better about being a failure and an incel since he can point to Dante's relationship failures as proof you shouldn't even try and deal with women
>>216028279Mallrats is mostly liked by casual viewers who didn't drink the cult of Kevin Smith kool aid. It also helps that Smith DESPISES Mallrats and blamed studio executives for forcing him to make a mainstream film
I dunno, these movies seemed culturally relevant at the time.It's anyone's guess whether that was warranted or not.Entertainment options were more limited back then.
The whole point of Randall is that he's a guy with no filter and represents the cliched "says whatever he wants with no consequences" Marty Stu type. Which is partly based on the fact that the guy who plays Randall is the only guy in Smith's running crew who routinely called Smith out on his bullshit and lies and various pity parties bullshit. But Randall's unlikable in part because Smith Mary Sues him in the name of making Dante more pathetic
>>216026147pre-internet and pre-social media people didn't get over-exposed to everything 24/7 and you could experience new things on a daily basis.I remember talking about bringing them to Mordor with the eagles in an AOL chatroom in like 2003 and it blew my mind when I first heard it.
>>216023726>to americansto anyone with good taste for kinos
>>216023726because we're not even supposed to BE here today
>>216023801>Mallrats is betterlol
>>216023726It captured a moment in time that's gone now. Places like convenience stores and video rental shops used to be comfy places, everyone was white, you could work a place like that if you were a loser and it was an easy gig. I think the fact it was filmed entirely on location instead of in a studio and the cast are all theatre kids or non actors adds a lot to the atmosphere, which is entirely lost in subsequent films like Mallrats which were generic, studio slop.
>>216023726Kevin smith putting himself in the middle of the main poster, he's such so fragile
>>216031562What a stupid ass straw-grasping criticismYou know when you run out of things to dissect you can just shut up instead, right
>>216023726I have no idea. Not american but watching this did nothing for me, I didn't connect with it at all. The animated series is great though.
>>216023726PORCH MONKEYS 4 LIFE
>>216028311I'm not a casual viewer, not in general, or even as a viewer of Smith's films. I like Mallrats because it doesn't have any pretension. It doesn't have the usual faux maturity that Smith's films have - for example Dante's bullshit arc in Clerks, where he realizes he should settle with his whore girlfriend, or the phony drama between Dante and Randall near the end of the film. Smith is bad at any kind of serious writing. This is most exemplified by Chasing Amy, a 90's artifact that somehow courted critical acclaim back in its day but has thankfully been largely forgotten. At the same time, Mallrats isn't trying to be broad and likable, like some of Smith's more asinine films (Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back). Mallrats is just a crude, meanspirited 90's comedy that doesn't apologize for what it is in any way. On top of that, it has Jason Lee in what is probably the only performance by Jason Lee that hasn't completely irritated me, playing Brodie. And Brodie is just a great character. It's like if Clerks centered around Randall instead of Dante. Brodie carries much of the film. I think what is true of people who favor Mallrats is that they just don't take Smith seriously, or think that his films are actually any good (even Mallrats). Also, Mallrats just has that wholesome 90's laid back, slacker vibe, where Clerks just feels more like a bunch of outright losers.
>>216028298>incelHe was banging 17 year olds in Clerks 3 my nigger.
>>216032783Chasing Amy was good. Sorry.
>>216032874I too was once 15 and thought this. Best of luck to you, young man.
>>216032783i’m with you man, it’s just a fun movie even if you can tell the studio fucked with it.
>>216032920Sometimes studios know better. In the case of Kevin Smith, almost definitely true.
>>216032934it makes sense that after Cop Out that the studios just stopped giving Kevin money or support for the most part, what a fucking trainwreck that movie is. the red state stunt was also a nail in the coffin.
>>216024572Truly just this. Its not an incredible film by any means and the guy hasn't had a hit in decades, but he self-financed the whole thing, wrote and directed it, then got it distributed to movie theaters where audiences found it endearing enough to tell other people about it.
>>216032832>he's not an incel, just an emotionally stunted man who fucks girls 1/3 his agethats not much better
>>216023726It was funny if you were born between 1970 and 1983
>>216033428I was born after 1983 and I still think it's kino
>>216024572Not true at all. In fact, the 90's were towards the end of the actual independent film market in America. After that, it largely became commercialized. >>216033380The novelty of that isn't as appealing if you went to film school and saw a lot of similar level productions back in the day.>>216033512>not all black people
>>216033600>The novelty of that isn't as appealing if you went to film school and saw a lot of similar level productions back in the day.99.99% of people didn't go to film school
>>216034470Maybe in general, but this in an online film community?
>>216034487Nigga you on/tv/
>>216026586>Sounds like you had sex in a very uncomfortable place>Like the back of a VolkswagenRedpill me on Volkswagens
>>216034487This cracka went to film school
>>216023726It's """"countercultural"""" Gen X slop that was fed to them by the Weinsteins.
>>216023801The mall has a lot of Arabs too
>>216023726this was part of a long term plan to prepare npcs for the coming AI slopfesthttps://www.bitchute.com/video/OKW50Sg2XbfJ
>>216031443I think so
>>216026549trueDark Forces is the pinnacle of the entire Star Wars franchise for those who knowI never much cared for Skywalker family drama, so it's much more appealing for a hired gun to shoot his way through the Empire's supply chain.
>>216023726why tf is (whatever genx brit slop) so important to brits
>>216035908>I rebel
>>216036373forgot the file.
>>216023726Randall's actor is so bad. He has zero comedic timing. Lines that could have been funny are delivered like it's a high school play.
>>216036578Sovl
>>216036578I disagree, he had me laughing.
>>216036578It worked because the film was pretty heavy on the realism.Most people in real life are awkward assholes if you pay attention
