How long has television and film been declining?
>>216033565It has all been downwards from this.
>>216033565>keep running the same 50 year old boomer franchises into the ground>expect it to keep working foreverSorry idiots, better get to reading those spec scripts from the white guys you ignored if you want to keep that office wagie DEI position.
since 2007
>>2160335651978.
>franchise Here's your problem. But yeah, the decline obviously started long before the woke meme.
>>216033565name one medium that isn't undergoing this
>>216033808why, my peenus weanus of course :)hahah! :Dit's my weeeeeenus peanus! :) hahahITT: name one medium that isn't undergoing this - my answer is, of course, my peanus weenus :Dhahaha!
>>216034123Incredibly based
>>216033565>2013It's got unimaginably worse since then.
television is actually getting better just not in the west>>216028803
>>216033565since home vidya consoles sidelined storytelling as a cultural form. then the internet made it much worse.
>>216033565That anon is probably close to forty years old and very likely still posts here lol
>>216034822>forty years old and very likely still posts hereso?
>>216033565Since the 60s with the hippie bs, civil rights, Cold War cuckservative paranoia and the sexual revolution.
>>216034864It’s sad and pathetic
>>216034822I'm 45; perhaps this isn't the optimal website for a child like yourself.
>>216034678>>216033565I gotta say ~2013 is a really solid pick for "I used to enjoy these things and now they're making more and they suck"You can't claim I'm biased against them, I was looking forward to them and wanted them to be good as their predecessors and they just weren'tOnly in retrospect were they a harbinger that everything was going to be like that from now on
>>216034711That shit is literally the bottom of the barrel. It doesn't get more pathetic than that.
>>216034971>single one and done seasons instead of endless cliffhangers until cancelled >no hamfisted political agenda >high episode count seasons while western slop gets fewer and fewer episodes each season >racially homogeneous casttell me again why I'm supposed to watch western slop over kdramas?
>>216034935>It’s sad and patheticWhere do you think you are?
>>216035031Their culture is even more shallow and consumerist than ours.
>>216034935why?
>>216034956>That image The holy trinity of fumbled kino. What would be the fourth movie to make it a Mt. Rushmore?
>>216035063kdrama product placement is endearing and not sinister and demoralizing like in the west.
>>216035189>Endearing product placementMost jewish thing I've heard all week
>>216035076You're objectively a failure if you had 40 years to develop yourself intellectually and decided to pass your time discussing mundane topics with kids. You should upgrade your discussions with successful and mature people who have more life experience and knowledge. This place is a stepping stone only.
>>216035333yes
>>216034711You’re a joke
Before the green oval existed
>>216035389uh huh, keep hate watching your woke slop then I guess.
Since white civilization has been cut off from its roots. The culture rot will continue as long as this is the case
Notice how the retard shilling non-American films is only posting women.I'm not against non-American films but anyone who's only posting women to prove a point (LOOK AT HOW CUTE THE GIRLS ARE!) is either a tranny, a simp, or a coomer, or god forbid all three.And these types never have good taste. Never.
>>21603492050s-70s is the peak of cinema.
>>216035742white roasties fear the asian woman
>>216035742>filmsI'm guessing those are Korean dramas.
>>216033713This. Star Wars killed film
>>216034935We need our old guy posters. They're usually the best ones. They don't get in stupid pissing matches or say really dumb shit nearly as often.
>>216033565There's been an effort to erase the old but they failed to create anything new.Epic progressivism fail.
>>216035356Where? Where do you find these discussions?
>>216035811
>>216035356>with kidswhat do you mean? what kids?>This placeit's a websiteyou seem confused and lost, but I hope you get better soon
>1910-1940Golden age of film great experiments, visuals, art through and through.>1945-1960As Hitchcock and the last few truly great directors finished up Hollywood ensured slow Judaification of film, focus on grand spanning stories and image.>70s-80sCoppola and Scorsese know they can barely write out classic story film epics and set out to make degenerate crime movies instead about the human condition.>80sLucas and Spielberg create the block buster. Film is reduced to mindless slop for children.POINT OF NO RETRUN>90-2000s Non stop action movies, it isn't woke just yet but it spiritually and mentally numbs gentiles as planned.>2010s-2020sUndeniable death of cinema, action films with black women in lead roles, worst of the worst, and only getting worse from here.It's been a slow decline.
>>2160361081940s were already bad for Hollywood film. >slow Judaification of film So pre-New Hollywood wasn't Jewish? Billy WIlder? Michael Curtiz? Ernst Lubitsch? Fritz Lang? Mankiewicz? Wyler? Cukor? Sternberg? Stroheim?
>>216033565Since the 90s. Literally everything has been declining since the new millennium began.
People didn't take the writer's strike seriously.
>>216033565For the United States: yes; for other countries: no.
CGI + digital + franchises ruined cinema.Then streaming delivered the coup de grace.
>>216033565The real writers behind all the movies are focusing on bigger stuff, and I'm not talking about flesh and blood.Ephesians 6:12 KJVFor we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Don't even care. I only watch old shit and have only ever watched old shit and will continue to only watch old shit. There's enough old shit to keep me entertained forever.
Star Wars killed cinema twice. First in 1978 by making it for younger audience, then in 1999 by turning it into CGI franchises for retards. This is objective truth and I don't even hate the series.
I think it started when the Battlestar Galactica finale was shitty.
Don't even care. I only watch korean shit and have only ever watched korean shit and will continue to only watch korean shit. There's enough korean shit to keep me entertained forever.
>>216034711My mother religiously watches K-slop and shills it to me constantly. It's fucking awful.
>>216036509based ajumma
>>216036108>t. born in the 90s
>>216036252It was but it's output wasn't, because they still existed in a societal environment where they had to find compromise between what they wanted to show and goyish sensibilities. its this tension that created our best entertainment
>>216036556You antisemites are boring. The cultural changes affected all of the Western world and even non-Western countries meanwhile all you can think about is Jews. Yeah, all those Jews responsible for French or Japanese New Waves.
>>216033565The exact moment it began?It's a tossup between 1913 and may 14th, 1948.1913 was when the seed was planted but the sprouts weren't noticeable until the 40s.
>>216036627>You're all so boringThat doesn't make us wrong, Yousef.All those changes came about because of the global jewish usury-based banking cabal established after WW2. It took a world war for jewish banking to finally corrupt global industry.You can even see the first attempt in china around 1100-1400 AD when Jewish merchants worked with the emperor to create the first attempt at Fiat currency.Debt based currency turned hollywood into a money laundering and propaganda machine that would be otherwise untenable with sound currency.
>>216036739Whatever. Talk about movies and if you don't have anything to say then stop posting.
>>216035189Its not supposed to have any product placement at all, Anon. Plus its Korean. Lets not pretend that non-Western culture is worth consuming - never has been, isn't going to be.
>>216035356I come to 4chan to get lectured about my future by guys who weren't even alive when I got married.
>>216036627>anti-SemiteWrong>All you talk about is JewsThat was the topic yes. As per the other anons statement Hollywood has always been Jewish. And denying that apparently is antisemitic, but affirming it which I did,is also antisemitic. Obviously there's no way to discuss matters involving Jews without you feeling it's antisemitic. What does that say about you?Also if you take a second to think about what you said, and maybe ponder how it could be that so many countries across the world had similar changes it actually obviously supports my point and refutes yours. The answer is very clearly and obviously that each nation has been affected by these changes the other anon mentioned exactly to the degree to which they are part of the sphere of American cultural influence
>>216035885Old farts are just as likely to get into pissing matches as anyone else.
>>216035356>You should upgrade your discussions with successful and mature people who have more life experience and knowledge. If you had ever actually tried this you'd know successful people are shallow and only congregate to get ahead
>>216036791This thread is about Hollywood decline. No one seriously think Hollywood started declining already in 1945. No critics, no normal people. Most pre-1945 movies are pretty much forgotten. Now you just post stupid bullshit because you clearly don't want to talk about movies, but complain about Jews. >these changes the other anon mentioned exactly to the degree to which they are part of the sphere of American cultural influenceThose changes started in other countries earlier than in United States.
>>216036768you're delusional if you think all of your western tv isn't full of product placement
>>216037019Korean names are fucked. I finally watched my first Korean movie (Oldboy) and I have no idea how they pronounce certain letters because very often they said something completely different than what was in the subtitles.
>>216034123Haunting
>>216035774Exactly, it peaked, meaning that's the when acceleration became negative.
>>216037067that's actually the fault of shitty subtitles, Koreans use a lot of honorific like oppa, unnie, hyung, noona, etc which denote things like gender, age, and relationship to the speaker. Modern subtitle guidelines tend to have them replace those with the person's name so you lose a lot of the cultural weight of the terms as well as the subtitles not actually matching what the person is saying.
>>216034935So is wasting your time here as a young man, what's your point?
>>216036627I somewhat agree with this. While jews deserve all the bullying they get and anti-semitism is based, obsession with the jews is not and it conceals all responsibility of non-jews who do bad things. It's also a form of jew-worship to me, hating something with every fiber of your being is not to far off from loving it unconditionally, as the person in question is still spending all their emotional energy thinking about kikes.
>>216033565Western culture has been on the decline since WW2.There were dissident bright spots, like 80s metal, 80s action movies, and sci-fi and fantasy up through the 90s. These were crushed by the Jews and their longhouse spies throughout the 00s.>Muh JoosLook at who runs all of the institutions that you have a problem with. When things are going wrong, it makes sense to look at who's in charge. And then you think about what the Old Testament would look like without the New Testament (stop relying on your pastor and go read the Bible, BTW; if you're short on time, I recommend Kings and Chronicles for the most inconvenient books). And then you read the Talmud. And then you realize that they're driven by spite over Jesus not geocoding the Romans and making them rulers over the Earth.It won't be reversed until the conservative movement is replaced with a forward-facing anti-feminist, anti-invader, pro-white (the people who created the west; the idea that evolution stops at the neck is ludicrous, and you can't completely separate culture from biology) movement.
>>216036527No, she sits on the couch watching K-slop for 8 hours a day every day. She's become a complete couch potato because fucking Netflix is happy to feed her an endless supply of the trashiest Asian dramas you can imagine.Truly, there is no redeeming quality to K-slop except that it's somehow not as bad as C-slop.
>>216038310what's her favorite show?
>>216038268Sorry, I need to issue a correction. Merely thinking about how the Old Testament would look without the New Testament isn't sufficient. You need to think about how a group that rejected Jesus would think about the Old Testament.On a surface level, the Old Testament has stories that suggest that doing whatever to people you don't like is approved by God, but it also has has plenty of verses that condemn usury, being a poor host, and betrayal.>off topicHollywood is ran by Jews. Even if they're not religious Jews, they're cultural Jews like Karl Marx.
>>216033565https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zjc1AFpqIw0
>>216033565We are living in an era where academy award for best actor winners are on TV shows. Bow the fuck down, TV was never this good.
>>216038405Samefag here.Jews, show me an example in the Old Testament of a group that showed extreme hospitality to the Israelites (such as the Americans) and that God then approved of destroying. It was always people who were attacking or corrupting the Israelites. And of course, you have to know about Old Testament statements about the corrupting influences of foreign cultures. That was King Solomon's sin.You are akin to the wicked kings of Israel for your actions in trying to convince America to destroy itself, and your punishment will be Biblical.
>>216035163Jimmy Fallon taking over late night after jay leno retired?
>>216036108Accurate
>>216033808Anime, manga and Kdramas.
>>216036762I know you're economically illiterate and are trying to tone police me but you're beyond retarded if you don't see the connection between a financial system that allows for the creation of trillions by leveraging debt margins and money laundering on high risk-vs-return projects like movies.It's funny you probably call people names all day about media literacy when the irony is you're economically illiterate.Movies don't just appear by magic created by people who want to make art--some rich person or financial institution must fund them or they don't get made.
>>216036791The definition of antisemitism is telling the truth about jewish behavior.HOW DARE YOU LIST OFF PRODUCERS AND PRODUCTION COMPANY NAMES AND NOTICE PATTERNS
>>216038310She's pure of soul and you're probably an angry trannie.
37 here, I can't watch new film or television. it's terrible. watching a mediocre movie from the 90's is the equivalent of a cinematic masterpiece in current year. lighting, acting, colour grading, cinematography, writing, it's a lost art.>inb4 le UNCyou're here forever>inb4 le every generation says thatand they're right. the decline is real and to deny it is to embrace being a FUCKING RETARD
>>216038370Keep posting webms of that slop so I can md5 filter all of them, you keep posting the same garbage over and over again. How much are those bugs paying you?
>>216040272I do it for the love of the game.
>>216040272idiot
>>216034935"you're here forever" isn't just a meme. see you on your 40th birthday, anon.
2005
>>216036807No we're not you little faggot
>>216039687>anime and manga aren't degrading
The decline started in the 90s but things were still mostly okay to good up until the 2010s when streaming, normie-coded internet slop and just generally society as a whole started crashing and burning (we are currently about 50 layers deep into hell and only going deeper before it gets better)
>>216040535That's retarded, Youtube was amazing until normalniggers infested the internet.
>>216034822This site resembles the old internet far more than it does tiktok. You can always go back to tiktok. 67
>>216033638>the rider was blackWokeGODS... cinema was always ours.
korea-fags are fucking delusional
>>216033565They are being dismantled because the internet never forgets and want us destroyed So they want to add poison to the well of shared imagination.
>>216033565Since 2013. The Mayans were right.
>>216042475I still joke irl about this
I spent most of 2013 posting about the 2012 end of the world
>>216040619MR. FARINA
