Were 70s-80s cartoons really that bad?
>>216476791Yes.
i had no idea Andrei Tarkovsky worked at cartoon network
>>216476791Yes, it was all low budget low effort garbage.
the early hanna barbara cartoons made for tv like the flintstones were good, and then bad until scooby doo, and then really bad
yogi was based
>>216476872they had to be low budget and I think were competing with reruns of older theatrical produced shorts like looney tunes
>>216476791Grape Ape and Hong Kong Phooey were good and I don't care who disagrees.
>>216476791Top Cat is the only good HB joint
>>216476791Unironically yea. There's a reason the only cartoons 80sfags talk about are transformers he-man and thundercats
>>216476791Old looney tunes and tom & jerry mog everything so hard it's not funny
>>216476791Not all of them, but most of them were bad.Everyone remembers the good ones likeScooby-Doo and The Flintsones, but they forget all the crap like Speed Buggy and Jabberjaw.
>>216476934>tmnt
>>216476871Always gets me. kek
>>216476791I just remembered some cartoons back then had laugh tracks
>>216476934There is more they talk about like GI Joe and TMNT but they shouldn't talk about those either. In fact, no one should talk about 80s cartoons ever.
>>216476791I thought it sucked and looked dated as fuck even when I was little. Catchy intro though.
>>216477045>>216477091Tmnt bleeds into the 90's. Hell most of the episodes in the original show were aired after 1990
They were kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuvnWd9X3k
>>216477148Why did Heathcliff and the cat with the scarf never meet, even though Heathcliff knew his crew?
>>216476791>Some cartoon network soi jew doesn't like a classic cartoon with a hot blond in itNot surprising
>>216476934but those sucked ass too
>A lot of the cartoons being broadcast on TV in the '80s were older than the kids watching them, sometimes by decades, and the "toy commercial" shows like He-Man and Care Bears at least had the advantage of being new instead of a show their parents watched as children.
>>216477415Meanwhile in Dexters Lab
>>216477084I think most hanna barbara stuff did, scooby doo and flintstones did
>>216477453Roger Ramjetchads where we at?
>>216476916
>>216476791I think people forget how many different shows Hannah Barbara was cranking out. A lot of them were knockoffs of their own shows. They had like seven Scooby Doo knockoffs.
>>216477028> good ones like scooby doohttps://youtu.be/HEWrFMmdPsM?si=fPxgjefnoTijb0ji
>>216477568they milked the fuck out of that dog but the original was good
>>216476791Scooby Doo clones were the Fortnite clones of the 70s.
>>216477091The late 80s shows like TMNT were quite different from the early 80s and felt closer to the 90s.
>>216477937Oh right, the late 80s-early 90s.>let's have 5 teens with superpowers because we can sell more toys that way>each teen hero has their own vehicle for even more toy sales>the heroes, all gender and racially diverse of course, beat the bad guys every week by using lasers or comically retarded deus ex machina methods because the network won't let us show people getting punched>have a badass rock music theme song>at the end of the episode the heroes give the audience a speech about recycling, staying in school, or not using drugs>also there's a very special episode where one of the heroes has a friend named Joey with AIDS, who will never appear again
Yes. You end up watching a lot of actual shit as a kid. The old Hanna Babera stuff, in general, was formulaic garbage. It's not a dig. Thats just how it was. The fucking Herculoids weren't as good as The Tick, it's fine.
>>216477568The original run is generally good, especially when you consider it was cheaply produced Hanna-Barbera slop. Though there's basically nothing redeemable after that until Zombie Island, which is impressive given how much they were whoring out the franchise over the course of three decades.
>>216478108I enjoyed 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo with Vincent Price.
Scooby Doo suckedPeanuts sucked
Gen X had it rough, they made a cult out of Star Wars because quality kids' media was so lacking then and there wasn't a lot of competition.
>>216477491god I love white girl ass
They kept milking Golden Age franchises into the Reagan years even though the results were pretty bad and the voice actors like Mel Blanc and Jack Mercer were old fucks who just wanted a quick low effort paycheck and had stopped trying a long time ago.
>>216477588I'd milk the fuck out of a dog, if you know what I mean I don't know what I mean
>>216476791I only have fond memories of HB
>>216478286just like Zombie Simpsons
>>216478286Honestly, Popeye lost it with the theatrical shorts that came out right after WW2 when Famous took over from Fleischer and they became increasingly bland and safe.
>>216478239jeet
70s Hannah-Barbera was just awful: Inch High Private Eye, Funky Phanton, Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch, The Schmoo, Dinky Dog, Fangface, Yogi's Galaxy Goof-ups, The Roman Holidays and, yes, SuperFriends.
>>216477091Didn't they scrap virtually all of the GI Joe 80s masters?
>>216477568How did the explain Velma and the chad not being there?
yeah they all sucked pretty much
>>216476791Retarded John K propaganda. If you have any appreciation for kitsch they are fine, if very boring most of the time. The constant animation errors are funny
>>216478313red rocket
>>216476791my mom grew up on 60's-70's cartoons, but would sometimes sit down with me to watch my shows (powerpuff girls, courage, dexter's lab, spongebob, etc.) when i was a kid. we were talking about which generation had the best era of kids shows recently and without even debating she said mine had it the best hands-down
>>216476934thundercats had good art but godawful voice acting. all 80s cartoons had shit writing for the most part, sometimes deliberately so (sometimes some good polt concepts would sneak in here or there but they were hampered by corporate mandate to always play it safe and never make it too good.
Cartoons used to be disposable babysitters to sell ad space and nothing more. Millenials were spoiled, really, and when they themselves entered the business ended up ruining everything with fag lesbian lore shipping drama shows.
>>216478057I remember the Very Special Braveheart where he couldn't save the kid who got mixed up in drugs and died in the end. one of the very few times a character died in a kids cartoon and possibly the only time it was a (middle school age?) child.
>>216478563I think John K liked the early stuff like Huckleberry Hound. And he was kind of right and wrong because Ren and Stimpy was so far beyond that stuff, especially tje 80s stuff in terms of animation with probably similar budgets. But he also missed deadlines like crazy.
>>216478131I just looked up the 13 Ghosts series & know for a fact I never saw any of those episodes since I didn't realize Vincent Price's character was very obviously the inspiration for Dr. Orpheus.For the '72-'94 period I was just working off childhood memories which amounts to Blockbuster rentals of the movies from that era & a convenience sample of the random (bad) Scooby-Doo series CN would play mid-day on weekdays where I happened to not be in school. I remember even as an unsophisticated child thinking that those were all trash.
>>216478639not braveheart. braveSTARR. it was the last Filmation show.
>>216478694I saw them back then.
>>216478286>that 80s Popeye SMC series where they didn't let him punch people>but it was ok to rerun the Fleischer shorts where he punches people in every episode
>>216478108the old Batman crossover has a couple of funny jokes in it
>>216478769>batmilk
>>216477302The thing is the show was pretty bad by the 90s. People only really remember that first season and a handful of episodes from seasons 2, 3 and 4 that weren't completely shit. And seasons 8, 9 and 10 were a step up in quality, but barely anybody was watching it by then, and most people didn't even know those seasons existed until the mid 2000s.
>>216477148What would mine and Cleo’s kids look like?
>>216477402Probably already met beforehand and had some kind of agreement not to fuck with each other's turfs or something.
>>216477560>They had like seven Scooby Doo knockoffs.Really? What were they called?
>>216476791Maybe you don't want things to be too good, Gen X grew up and made the best cartoons ever because they got so screwed by life. Things are too good right now so now Gen Alpha is getting screwed.
>>216476791HONG KONG PHOOEYNUMBER ONE SUPER GUY!
>>216476791Yep
>>216476791>>216476791>Were 70s-80s cartoons really that bad? Hong Kong Phooey, Hanna-Barbera, old scooby do, pink panther, top cat,flintstones was a shit load better than rick and morty>>216476828>>216476872kys>>216476891>yogi was basedthis
>70s cartoonsCheaply made but still tolerable, usually had some good quips with laugh tracks and adult humor>80s cartoonsSlightly better made, ones like gi joe and he man are probably more fondly remembered because of the toy lines. Ironically the best cartoons were the supposed girly ones like MLP and care bears since half the episodes were them fighting alien demon hordes that looked like something from a heavy metal album cover>90s cartoonsWe remember these being the best though im sure there was a lot of crap too that we just ignored or forgot about
There's a surprising subset of zoomer furry autists obsessed with bad 70s hannah barbera cartoons, I've seen them.
>>216477148A Garfield ripoff
>>216478639OCH AYE, THE BLAHDDY BRETS ARE SELLING OUR YOUTH POISON. FREEEDOOOOM
>>216478563>Retarded John K propagandaHe worked on those, so he'd know better that it was an assembly line shitshow where some retarded hack writer made up some crap and they'd used recycled xerox'd modelsheets without any creativity or skill. These days, it's back to that formula just on a computer.
>>216476791From an animator's point of view they were paper cutout puppet show tier dogshit. They barely even had animation, but to be fair, a lot of stuff (particularly in the 80's) was being churned out by Korean animation studios where animators were paid slave wages while South Korea was in the process of unfucking itself and becoming a first world nation. Tom and Jerry and Looney Tunes films from the 40's-60's aged like fine wine, because they had super imaginative and expressive hand drawn animation that was made by Americans.
>>21647679170s cartoons sucked legendary amounts of cock. 80s cartoons got better, but still mostly toyslop.
>>216477568anything from the ABC years was abysmal dogshit but yeah, all the earlier stuff on CBS was great
>>216476791I couldn't bring myself to actively watch Hanna Barbera slop as a kid. It'd mostly be on in the background while I was playing with toys. I'm not a literal baby boomer or anything, I'm only 34, but Cartoon Network aired a lot of HB cartoons prior to getting their shit together in the late 90's with actually good new original cartoons, and then striking oil with afternoon anime blocs.
90% of the HB shows are better than crap like Cow and Chicken or Johnny Bravo
>>216481850>growing up in the 00s, I couldn't bring myself to watch cartoons in the 80sYa think?
A lot of the characters and the voice acting were, dare I say, iconic. The animation quality was indeed ass.
>>216481850The only HBslop I liked was Scooby Doo, but when they ran the marathons I realized how formulaic it was.
>>216476791The entire reason I, personally, initially got into anime and therefore this cursed site was because American cartoons were (and are?) so, SO horrible. I guess they have good dialog, but it's so adult you can't understand and appreciate it as a kid anyways.I don't know why the west is so dedicated to making cartoons so lame. Partly it seems to be a dogmatic belief that they must be childish and unserious because they're for kids, which turns into an excuse to be lazy crap, but it feels like something deeper is at foot. Like they made Batman TAS and Avatar so you know it's not impossible to be good, but they never seem to want to do the good thing again. Almost like they were made by accident.
>>216481925I'm old enough to remember the late 90's. I remember the Titanic craze, Godzilla, y2k hysteria, and I also remember seething because of the start of the 24 hour news cycle with constant 9/11 footage meant no more back to back Simpsons reruns after school, and back then they only had like 11 seasons worth of re-runs, so it was all the good shit.
>>216481768Had nothing to do with what state they were subjects to. Had everything to do with money/capital spent/imvested. The export of labour was also orchestrated by americans.
The problem with 70s cartoons was simple: There were three networks, they only aired cartoons on saturday mornings, and the business model was for the network to sell the timeslot to whatever production company wanted it. Which was HB 80% of the time. They had a monopoly that only got broken when Hasbro and Mattel realized East Asia could make episode-length toy commercials for them for pennies and they'd be way better than the HB garbage.The 90s were only a second golden age because Fox + WB starting OTA networks plus cable meant there was suddenly a whole lot more time to fill, a shitload more money coming in to make stuff to fill it with, and an overwhelming need for that stuff to be better than the competition. And then it all went to shit the moment the internet started eating TV viewership among kids.
>>216479575>Scooby Don't>Screwme Doo>Scooba Flu>Flooby Scoo>Timbuktu>Afuckingjew>Jackie ChanFUCK
>>216476791Nothing cooler than a grown man talking about fucking “cartoons”. KILL YOURSELF FAGGOT
>>216481998Koreans churned out shit because they were paid fuckall and had strict schedules to adhere to. In the 21st century a lot of animation is still being exported to Korea, but wages are better, as are worker's protections, so the baseline of quality is higher than it was back then.
>>216479823Genndy and Craig didn't make Rick and Morty you retard.
>>216482005Cartoons also aired afternoons during the week.
yeah, Hana Barbera stuff really does not hold up, outside of maybe Flintstones.
>>216482005There was also the issue of networks caving to concerned parents who complained stuff like Jonny Quest and Tom and Jerry were too violent. So everything had to be sanitized, no violence, no smart mouthing, positive social message, etc.
>>216477453as if kids had any notion of how old Looney Tunes was.
>>216482031Nothing cooler than a grown man seething about cartoons online.
The secretly animated in Japan brand of 80's cartoon was pretty good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CoC2yL-f1I
>>216482218How old are you? Tell the truth if you genuinely aren’t ashamed
>>216482162Just want to chime in OG Jonny Quest is an outsider in boomer cartoons actually being good. At least that's how I remember it. Of course they had to get blowback for making it and end up regretting it.
>>216476946none of these guys would ever say a bad word about the 30s-40s-50s stuff, they're talking about the bad years of Hanna-Barbera
>>216476791>Were 70s-80s cartoons really that bad?70s cartoons were considerably worse than 80s cartoons when it came to animation. They had some fun concepts; but they looked like trash. 80s cartoons were more likely to be tied to a toy line; but the animation was better.Modern cartoons aren't exactly great either. Sure you get the occasional Bluey; but then you also get hundreds of shows with shit tier CGI that try to convince your 5 year old to gender bend.
Inhumanoids had people rotting into zombies and some incredibly horror stuff, considering it came out at the same time as all the sanitized fare.
>>216482256Pirates of Dark Water is extremely '90s anonI'm actually surprised it was as early as 1991 when I look it up.
>>216476872>>216476828>>216476791It was the absolute worst time for American animation. And the worst time to live in American History
>>216476791No, it's a meme forced by numales, fags and cunts that enjoy the modern gay ugly quirky shit. Also 80s children cartoons were actually made for children, and not manchildsNo 80s cartoon was as good as beasts like BTAS, but they were good, greatly imaginative and with good characters and artstyle.
>>216478597>had shit writing for the most partThat's you complaining that the target was children and 20yo manchilds
>>216482515>And the worst time to live in American HistoryYou mean "best"? In what way could it possibly be the worst? Not enough gays and browns for your liking?
>>216478239>God I love *insert woman*Why do people make posts like this all the time? Nobody gives a fuck what you jack off to
>>216476791In the 80s Transformers cartoon Megatron calls one of the smaller transformers a MIDGET. Funny as hell
>>216482566The 1970s was an economic depression, you fucking retard. But unlike 1930s depression era America, it was post desegregation, so you're constantly surrounded by filthy niggers, and you don't have any modern escapism of 2000s technology to go live in a better virtual world.The 1970s was not a good time to be alive, kiddo. Imagine the Biden era but without Internet and the US looks like it just got bombed in WW3
>>216482777>US looks like it just got bombed in WW3It's not like this changed in the 80s. American cities in the 80s also looked liked post-apocalyptic shitholes.
A lot of the midcentury modern aesthetic was captured in the art style of those old HB cartoons. Unless you really appreciate what's behind it and where it came from I could see why a zoomer would just think it's "shit" compared to their animes.
I guess this thread was more successful on this board since that one retard from /co/ isn't here to shitpost.
>>216482802There was a huge economic boom in the 80s, you fucking dumb child, you weren't even alive then, you don't know jack shit about the state of the country in the 70s depression.
>>216482777That's just nuts dude. It was the modern world, minus everything that makes the modern world bad. It was some of the best time to be around in history. Muh economic depression. Who cares. People still bought houses, got married, lived in nice neighborhoods. This was pre collapse America, just because your stocks took a hit doesn't matter.
>>216481961Dexter's Lab is better than both of those shows.
>>216482914I was alive, but I'm not an American. Your cities look like shitholes in 80s movies, it's just a fact. I don't know, maybe it's only certain cities, not all of them.
lol the 70s werent bad in most of the US.
Violent crime rate peaked in early 90s. It was worse than today throughout 70s and 80s.
>>216482515Today is the worst time for American animation. Unless you somehow still haven't gotten sick of ugly CGsloppa.
>>216483038That's just statistics bullshit. Slightly more blacks murdered each other in the ghetto, maybe. It's not a big deal. In every other way society has gotten much worse.
>>216476791Twitter likes to give the impression that it's an enormous site but since every other fucking tweetpost on this site is shit that showed up on my feed it's evidently incestuously small
>>216483038Today the cops just quit taking reports
>>216482966>This was pre collapse America,It was the second worst collapse since 1929, god, you're dumbDiid you think it was just a coincidence that nearly EVERY single movie and TV show made in the 70s depicted all the characters as being broke and fighting against a shit economy? Did that thought really never cross your mind? Did you think all the film makers were just copying each or something?
>>216482876Actually just watch some of it though. The jokes aren't funny.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX2WlkUyZqE
>>216482914New York in the 80's was in fact a shit hole. I don't know what happened there, but it's well understood as a thing.
>>216483301My family vacationed and bought houses and cars and all the pictures look really nice and fun. queens isn't the whole US boomerfag.
I remember watching reruns of Hong Kong Phooey in the early 90's and even as I kid I thought it was shit
>>216483301Why are you so stupid?None of that matters dude. We are poorer now, and the world around us sucks much more. Who cares about some economic downturn?Are you just trying really, really hard to show off that you were alive then? No one cares. How the hell were you alive, but failed to notice the world turning to shit for 50 fucking years?
>>216483351>Why are you so stupidI'm a grown man who still likes cartoons, how intelligent do you expect me to be?
Even that 70s Show tried to depict the economic crisis of the 1970s in an episode where Red plots to assassinate Jimmy Carter, but viewers didn't understand the context so the writers dropped actual 70s context from the show altogether, that's when it really went downhill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Vzce3QnpkHold up, is Hong Kong Phooey black coded?
>>21647679160's HB was mostly good70's HB had a handful of standouts like Wait Till Your Father Gets Home and Devlin but the bulk of it is forgettable at best80's HB depends on your tolerance for cutesy stuff but even then there was stuff like Galtar and the Ed Grimley cartoon that were pretty good90's HB was mostly good again. Really "mostly" just refers to Yo Yogi here
>>216483301>>216483351>boomers believe that some trash in NY and not being able to afford a third house compares to the apocalyptic hell-hole of the past 10+ yearsI'd kill to relive those years>but muh technology>In the least creative decade in history>Just watch slop kiddo, and forget about the economy
>>216478329That's the point. You liked them as a kid because kids are retarded. Sophisticated adults realize th cartoons are actually bad, and somehow that's a problem. There is nothing wrong with having retarded shows for kids.
>>216483536He liked them as a kid because they're made for kids. The cartoons aren't bad, you're just not meant to watch them as an adult. They are for small children. I'd question anyone who still watches Mr. Rogers as an adult, but I would also question anyone who whines about Mr. Rogers not being entertaining to them anymore.
>>21648353690's cartoons just get better with age though. Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, Ed Edd n Eddy, and Powerpuff girls are all funny as fuck. Hey Arnold and Rugrats have a lot of clever satirical writing going on, that completely went over my head as a child.Home Movies is pretty much one of the best animated shows ever, even factoring in stuff for adults.
>>216476791Western TV cartoons only got good in the 90s. From the 50s-80s every animated show was pretty much accepted as shit and only for children. Sure HB pushed the envelope with shows like the Flintstones and Wait till Your Father Gets Home but for the most part, it was disposable shit designed to trick people into watching ads.
Homeboy really got a job at CN just to watch shitty old cartoons he could easily watch on youtube lmao
>>216482777>The 1970s was an economic depressionyou posted a picture of building being built and you chose an area that is a landfill. rather disingenuous. certainly not every state reflected what new york looks like. look at all the tv detective shows from the 70s where they film outdoors. it doesnt look bombed out
>>216483728yes.
If you were to make a list of great cartoons to put in a HDD for kids, what would you put in?
What's /tv/'s official position on Bananaman?
>>216483821For kids? Just let them watch whatever's streaming on Pluto or the Paramount/Disney app. The Nick Jr. dog cartoon. Don't force your cartoons on them, let them watch what the other kids are watching so they don't grow up nerds/friendless.
>>216483442damn rosemary is hot
>>216476791They were churned out like factory production lines.Very rarely new backgrounds were created for episodes and character poses were recycled with minor alteration to their mouth.t. someone who had analogue Sky in the early 90s and only cartoons were Hanna Barbera
>>216483821Classic Looney Tunes, Fleischer and Disney as an overall thing.Pixar movies.Muppets and Jim Henson in general, Don Bluth films, Duck Tales, Tin Tin.More 90's Nickelodeon and CN than I can reasonably list. Pretty much all of it.Some classic animes like various mecha shows, Dragon Ball, Cardcaptor Sakura, Lupin III.Wallace and Gromit, Chicken Run, Shaun the Sheep.
>>216483738>He posted pictures!Of the gas crisis and the huge slump in the s&p500? Yeahhttps://www.historians.org/perspectives-article/precedents-the-job-crisis-of-the-1970s-april-1997/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973%E2%80%931975_recession
>>216483821Also the good seasons of the Simpsons, King of the Hill, 90's Batman, Superman, X-Men and Spiderman shows, and Ghibli movies, I guess
>>216482777This just modern day Detroit. Nothing changed.
>>216479575Nta but the ones that come to mind are Jabberjaw and Speedbuggy. Mystery solving kids with a talking thing that shouldn't talk. Pretty sure there were a couple more.
>>216484348captain caveman
>>216483821Tom and Jerry
I remember the guys who did Sealab 2021 said their slideshow animation was still leagues more dynamic and interesting than the basically still paintings that Sealab 2020 was
>>216476791>Not well acted>Not well animated>Basic and recycled character designs>Non-existant writingThe only show that could possibly be considered an exception was The Flintstones which was ripping off sitcoms of the era anyway.>>216477028>>216477568Scooby Doo is very marketable. That's all I can reall say for it.
>>216483837Good for propaganda. Superted mogs it though.
>>216477148never could get that theme song out of my head as a kid
>>216476791BOOMERANG!it's all coming back to you...
Cant believe no one mentioned the Panther.These were so good for when they were made. So many of the best weirdly being about tiny pests you cant see.>the flea>the termite>the superfly>the car ep>the witch's wand>the dracula epI had dozens of these on VHS and would watch them over and over.Probably the best 70s cartoon after Loony Tunes.
>>216484571>Nobody talking to Black Debbie or Dolphin Boy
>>216477148>fat dumb cat is named Mongolmao
>>216483728bruh b fammin g
>>216483821Filmation's stuff too
>>216484601>>Not well acted>>Not well animated>>Basic and recycled character designsYou are basically complainign about old tech being old>>Non-existant writingno you
>>216484051Not a slump in the s&p500! It must have been hell on earth to be alive!
>>216485866>Not having a job must have sucked, in the worst economy since the dust bowl, lol!
>>216485934>in the worst economy since the dust bowl, lol!2008-present
>>216476791I did not know Tarkovsky made cartoons.
>people only remember good cartoons>look at all these shit cartoons>the mere existence of these shit cartoons means all cartoons are shit ALL OF THEM ARE SHITWhat a fucking retard.
>>216476791Nah, it all went to shit in the 90s.
>>216486126I had no idea 2008 came before 1970, someone should alter that chart, then
>>216481994i remember watching spin city reruns after school and it was such a fucking awful showand THEN the double episode of the simpsons came on
>>216477453When was a kid there were so many reruns of old shit that I just automatically assumed that all cartoons were made long before I was born, that didn't stop me from enjoying them though.
Hong Kong Phooey unironically mogs Samurai Jack and Primal
>>216476791Compared to todays slop they seem like the mona lisa
>>216476791I keep saying HB was the CalArts slop of its day and you keep telling me to KMS. I will not kill myself because HB was in fact the CalArts slop of its day.
>>216482537why wearing shorts AND skirt?
my family was so poor we could only afford Harvey Toons
>>216487324Because good designs that make sense are only made by well adjusted people.
>>216476791compared to '50s and '60s cartoons yes>>216476871he released a feature only few months ago, "Fixed," about a dog getting castratedpretty good, at least 8/10
>>216487324Or make her look like a tranny for that matter
>>216487324>>216482537i've seen many girls in the past 20 years wearing skirts over pants/thighs/shorts etcit's what happens when you don't rein in the mentally retarded but encourage them
>>216482272Fuck you
>>216476791Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CqemAT4iwIBut the intro songs were always pure, unadulterated SOVL.
>>216483442What's up, Doc?
One thing that’s weirdish to me is that growing up (born in 91) I would watch a lot of older cartoons, including stuff like golden age Looney Tunes (about 50 years old at the point that I’d watch them). A lot of weird fever dream “late” nights where I’d somehow have the tv to myself and just watch old cartoonsLike of course I watched a lot of prime 90s cartoons, but I’m glad I got to watch the older stuff too. I can’t imagine kids now are ever exposed to 90s, let alone stuff from 70 years ago
>>216482966Not everybody had stocks, people worked in their majority
>>216485323I really liked Wacky Races too.
>>216476791Cartoons peaked in the 90s and early 2000. that’s not a secret.
>>216476791Old Hannah barbera cartoons were dog shit. The only one with watching was Scooby Doo and even it's terrible. All of their cartoon concepts are "parody of celebrity does a thing".
>>216487664> The only one with watching Sir could you reformulate this because me not understanding?
>>216487664Fuck your mother's cunt you bitch, say that to my face, say that Hannah-Barbera sucks and find out..fucking zoomers I swear you don't know the first thing about life, I really pity you and am sad for your generation who can't appreciate what life was like, when we had STORIES (crazy, I know) and WHOLESOMENESS, instead of transexualism shoved down our holes (ironically, pun VERY much intended) and empty propaganda. When we could actually wake up and smell the goddamn flowers and said thank you to our servicemen
>>216487324>>216487399>>216487433>>216487474it's meant to emulate Utena's outfit, because modern cartoons are made exclusively by weaboo troons.
>>216488062but Utena wears a jacket with shorts
>>216487324to prevent a michelle obama dick swing situation
>>216487642Yeah, it's crazy that anyone would disagree
>>216476791they show old HB cartoons on free tv and I have no idea who any of those characters are and there are like a million of them
>>216482537When drawn realistically every white woman looks like a troon. The same goes for real life. Asian women are the only true women on the planet.
>>216489020lol
>>216482777>>216484051>The 1970s was not a good time to be alive, kiddo. Imagine the Biden era but without Internet and the US looks like it just got bombed in WW3this nigga really thinks the USA was totally destroyed in the 1970s until the mid 90s! lol bro many of us actually lived through that time and it was great. nobody sat around doomscrolling we were all outside having fun.
>>216476791Dissing Hong Kong phooey? Motherfucker.
>>216476791Yes but in a fun way
>>216478329>>216483536>>216483581>>216483604Scooby Doo and it's various incarnations were the only HB property other than Jetsons or Flintstones I could handle for a long time. Otherwise, I was spoilt by Sailor Moon, DBZ, Digimon, etc. which just seemed so much better lol
Hannah Barbera were a fucking blight on society.
>>216478463Don't forget the Charlie Chan show. Yep, that happened.
>>216483667I watched some Wait Till Your Father Gets Home on IA a while back and it held up surprisingly well. The wife was cute.
>>216489094oh shit it's the KWABOTY
>>216487664>Scooby Doo and even it's terribleNigga shut the fuck up
>>216478108>Not mentioning the kino that was A Pup Named Scooby-DooFor shame, Anon
>>216487664>The only one with watching was Scooby Doo and even it's terrible.the very first year it was good. the guest star episodes were terrible and of course scrappy doo
>>216478329BABABOOEY
>>216487324You don't wanna make her too sexy or the boys could end up being heterosexual
>>216488271Every single one of those cartoons are terrible. I'm not even being a rage waiter. That list is one of the worst I've seen out of all possible options
Yeah. It was pretty fucking awful. Everything had a laugh track and it was either some derivative of The Three Stooges or The Honeymooners That fact is that everything about it was incompetent, from the animation to the writing, and effectively all they really tried to do was lazily recreate successful successful black and white comedies from the previous decade but with more color.
>>216483604Home Movies WAS for adults, it's was a primetime show that aired after Dilbert, then it moved to adult swim.
Come on bros, you have to admit this is fucking funnyhttps://youtu.be/010aaw1Ajo0?si=ler0Hj-4M_O9U3cd
>>216476791Behold!The pinnacle of Western animation
>>216483604Late 90s/early 00s cartoons were the first generation that stopped operating on looney tunes logic and really formed a new identity.
>>216489377Quick Draw McGraw cartoons were from 1959 to 1961 so he gets a pass.
>>216483536maybe you're an uptight pretentious little pseud from generation bitch whine
underdog and rocky and bullwinkle were good
>>216489295>I'm not even being a rage waiterYes you are
>>216487664>Old Hannah barbera cartoons were dog shit.They were great. Millennial hyper critical bitches like you missed out on being punched enough. You can't enjoy anything unless it's got snide sarcasm in it.
>>216476791According to my mom I loved Hong Kong Phooey, I don't actually remember it
>>216487753basedI like all of them but no one has mentioned snagglepuss, exit stage right
>>216488271Duck Dodgers is so underrated man.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4PVLzR9XcY
>>216489517It was based. OP is a complete faggot.
>>216489511It's not a millennial thing it's a snob thing. Animation nerds take this shit really seriously.
>>216489546>snagglepusshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3-a4qWCtIg
>>216489580Then fuck them, given the complete monotonous jap angst about getting nuked slop they praise in anime like akira who gives a shit what they think
>>216489259This is unironically true. Modern western cartoons are produced by "trauma" victim freaks who see normal sexual dynamics as destructive and who want to retard their development. They unironically see being straight as violence and are actively against it.
>>216489553The fact they had Tom Jones on board is hilarious
>>216476791Apart from Scooby Doo, they were pretty shit. Luckily we also had Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry etc
>>216489694>Tom and JerryOG Fred Quimby episodes were peak television.
>>216476934Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Ulysses 31, Centurions.
duh I'm retarded
>>216476791Cartoons haven't been good since the 1950s. Once TV was invented, they were relegated to something made only for children and their budgets, quality, and creativity completely tanked. Before that, cartoons were made for general audiences (mostly adults) and they were one of the main forms of entertainment coming out of Hollywood. Just watch any Warner Bros cartoon from the 1940s and compare it to anything made in the last 60 years and you'll see what I mean.
>>216477148>Riff-Raff get Cleo as girlfriend>Heathcliff get Sonja a fat ugly cat as girlfriend.The Catillac Cats was always the superior cartoon.>>216485404You must be a beaner, the fat cat is called Mungo, which is a type of fabric/cloth.
>>216489511 #>HypercriticalIt's not even an opinion, it's a well recognized fact that Hannah Barbera did everything in their power to automate the entire animation production process to cut costs.Like, I'm not going to shit on you for liking their slop, but they were objectively the slop pioneers. If you can't handle that conversation then you should probably just stay out of it.
>>216488271It's amazing seeing the kind of absolute garbage that retards liked because they happened to be twelve. I used to be really into Power Rangers, but then I grew up.
For me, he is called Tiro Loco McGraw
>>216489295>Every single one of those cartoons are terribleNo
>>216483328>Today's cringe, unfunny attempts at humor will be funny in 50 years.
patronage creates good art advertising creates slop
>>216476791hong kong phooey was good though
>>216489741They're just such perfect examples of the medium that nothing else has ever come even remotely close. They're like the classical music of cartoons.
It really blew my mind when I was a teen and realised that while cartoons were slop for children in the west, they've always been good in Japan.
>>216476791For me, it's Thundarr the Barbarian.
>>216476946>Old looney tunes and tom & jerry mog everythingthe really old shit was in theaters, not on TV. it's like comparing a movie or ova to a tv show. even the ones that did air on tv were more or less ads for the theatrical stuff
>>216487379We need to bring him back.
>>216490191Well they have their own slop as well, but you just never hear about it.
>>216490191The best thing for me was the oveararching story and characters actually dying. I liked Spider-Man and Batman and some others, but the fact that villains never die bothered me a lot.
>>216490222Thundarr is amazingly insane, it's like every genre of cartoon combined
>>216488271I hated most of these shows as a kid desu
>>216476791>Are bitchy millenials 70s-80s cartoons really that bad?why yes, yes they are.
I hated hong kong fooey as a kid. Always pissed me off that he got credit for things his sidekick did while being an incompetent fool. Was probably just my autism.
>>216490275Yeah, it's crazy how even in dumb shows for kids they actually have characters die with lasting consequences instead of just smoothing everything over every time. Western children's media is so emotionally stunted because of it, I remember watching Avatar and getting pissed off that the entire plot of the series was Aang working up the nerve to kill the fire lord, and then the last episode being "lol here's a deus ex machina so you don't have to and you can stay a kid forever!".
>>216487308I am glad you didn't kill yourself anon so that you can keep dropping this truth bomb.
>>216490275>I liked Spider-Man and BatmanSo.........capeshit..............>>216490017>I used to be really into Power RangersOf course that's why you are a faggot
>>216478563>very boring most of the time.Ringing endorsement.
>>216489961Pretentious little twat, better than your precious rick and morty redditor
>>216490375>better than your precious rick and morty redditorCalm down and quit taking everything so personally.I have the same criticism about Titmouse and adult animation standards.That doesn't mean I didn't like some HB or TM shows, but at the end of the day slop is slop.
>>216483957This. There was some funny shit, indeed i like globetrotters cartoon as a kid but watching it as an adult is a painful experience.>no background>recycled animations over and over again>stories that feel the same since they can't do changes in order to keep recycling animation.>almost all new shows are a variation of another hanna-barbera old showPretty much this was why he-man, transformers and TMNT sent hanna-barbera into the oblivion.
>>216482515*worst time to live in post-war, pre-9/11 american history
>>216485123>Heathcliff Heathcliff, no one should,>Terrorise the neighbourhoodThat's all I can remember
>>216476791Yes, most of them are terrible. But also what else were you gonna watch.
>>216477560Cartoons with canned laughter. Who the fuck thought of that?
>>216476791
>>216490866good post, very eloquent
>>216478057>the network won't let us show people getting punchedIn the UK, TMNT was called Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles because ninjas sound too violent
>>216477091DON'T GIVE HIM THE STICK
>>216482777>Imagine the Biden era but without Internet and the US looks like it just got bombed in WW3Not American, why did I always hear about redditors praise the Biden Admin as being gigachads when it came to the economy?
>>216489231>LEMME AT EM LEMME AT EMhaha based scrappykills me every time
>>216487753Unc lost his marbles lmao
>>216490953>Not American, why did I always hear about redditors praise the Biden Admin as being gigachads when it came to the economy?
>>216481994>I'm old enough to remember the late 90'sWoooow we got a onl unc over herewhy does time have to pass bros
>>216487753u mad?
>>216476871They mean transgendy tartakovsky
>>216491063Scrappy dappy doooooo!
>>216478176I haven't seen the vast majority of Peanuts specials so you're probably rightBut Charlie Brown Christmas and Great Pumpkin are undeniably masterpieces. Also Easter Beagle is pretty great mostly because of the music.
216489295>im baiting hard right now, and im not even baiting!
>>216478057This sounds comfy as fuck. I want to be lectured by cartoons and not my woke gf
>>216488271Lots of shit taste in these replies
>>216478057Sounds incredibly based. But you forgot about the mutant roided out turtles and sharks.
>>216485404Should be Negro
>>216490953Trump Derangement Syndrome. Biden is not Trump, therefore everything he does is great and heckin valid.
>>216476791How the fuck has somebody not mentioned this masterpiece yet? Or even the other WB cartoons of that era? I personally loved Freakazoid
>>216487753>WHOLESOMENESS>Fuck your mother's cunt
>>216476791Hanna Barberra in the 80s was specifically known to be pretty much just low effort slop. they shit out atleast a dozen entirely forgettable scooby doo clones. there were a dozen or so lame ass, boring action cartoons, like Space Ghost. There were all the jetsons and flintstones spinoffs. And don't even get started with the crossovers
>>216491667That show was complete trash, especially the awful fucking animation. Everything was fucking flat and the characters moved like they had a stick up their ass.
>>216491863Holy Homo
>>216476791Hanna Barbera was notorious for being poorly written, by the numbers slop but dammit if it didn't create some notable characters So you tell me about the quality of cartoons when I can't name a non-HB show from the 70s
>>216492500 Good take. Everyone knows HKPhooey even if they never watched it back then. I guess it's sort of like mythology: everyone knows who Odin and Zeus are, even if those stories are boring; the characters are iconic.
>>216490330One of the worst tropes in media, just below >“new guy who everyone adores is actually secretly a giant dick which only one of the main characters is aware of but everyone else believes the dick over the friend they’ve known for years”
>>216492500>So you tell me about the quality of cartoons when I can't name a non-HB show from the 70sis that really fair to say when they could churn out low effort cartoons left and right to drown out any and all competition? also most of their memorable characters were just celebrities from the 40s and 50s they stole personalities and mannerism from
>>216492649Where does this happen?
>>21647679170s anime like Future Boy Conan, Lupin and Space Battleship Yamato are better than anything being made today.And there are more good 80s anime than i can possibly list.
>>216492775Anime is and will always be bottom barrel trash
>>216490344This is why anime spread like wildfire in the late 90s-early 2000s. Then cartoonists at the time would seethe about it in their shows. Almost all anime parodies were from the early to mid 2000s, and you can tell the creators were angry about it.
>>216492681fosters home
>>216492775
>>216476879>He doesn't like the DooRopinion riscarded.
I find the way that people talk in the 70s to be fucking bizarre.It's a combination of extremely dated language and modern slang. It sounds overtly wordy and also sounds like it doesn't try at all. It's not "formal" but it's not informal either.>'You're worrying me, Jim. It'd be a great credit to your hedonistic malignance (or should I be so foreboding, what I said already but as much in the future tense) if you hung up those groovy little pills. I ain't no band leader and I don't want no ankle biter playing bingo"Something like that.I can't imagine being a small child in 1972 watching Benji and being able to follow this shit. God help them if they don't speak english natively.
>>216490344My mom told me when I was like 3 my favorite movie I was obsessed with was Charlotte's Web. I would literally sit there and watch the movie, sob uncontrollably at the end when Charlotte dies and then make my mom rewind the tape and watch it immediately again.
>>216482914I lived in Bushwick for a bit years ago and had a friend who said there were packs of wild dogs terrorizing the streets in the 80s and 90s.
Always hated the look and feel of Hannah Barbara cartoons, could never watch them. Scooby, Jetsons, Wacky Races, etc
>>216476791Better than the crap they put out today
>>21647679170s cartoons were fucking great. Scooby Doo, Fat Albert, Josie and those motherfucking Pussycats, Schoolhouse Rock, Star Trek, Captain Caveman and the Jailbait Angels, Sabrina the Teenage Bitch, and that's just TV cartoons.
>>216493374I did that with Robinhood without the crying
The 90s were super grim for cartoons. It's when the Ren and Stimpy UGLY CARTOON CHARACTERS trend took off. Every cartoon was ironically retarded because lolsowacky. We had some good shit like Batman but everything outside of that was devolving into the simplified shapes that would eventually become calarts slop.
>>216491141lol
