>>216482479
Kill two killers. Oh look, less killers now
Dumbass

>>216482479
>If you rape the Joker he will stop being evil

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>>216482479
kill 2

>>216482479
Yeah, but it makes sure that innocents don't get killed. So Batman letting the Joker live means that when the Joker gets loose means he's complicit in all the people the Joker killed.

>>216482486
The point is if you kill a killer you become a killer too...

>Kill two killers
>You're now a killer increasing the number of killers back to where it started

>>216482489
Murder someone you may have nothing in common with.

>I won’t kill you. But I don’t have to save you
That IS killing, Batman. If you see a child tied to a train track, and the train will kill them, but you can untie them with ease and get them to safety without putting yourself in any risk, and you don’t, then that makes you morally responsible for their death
It’s like how Walt let Jane die. He’s responsible

>>216482519
>Kill a killer
>number remains the same
>kill another killer
>number now subtracts by one, as you don’t suddenly become two killers

The Punisher already did.

>>216482534
Meant to reply to >>216482502

>>216482534
But then you're a double killer, you now count as two whole killers. The only logical next step is to kill yourself and close out the loop.

>>216482479
Batman sucks and is an idiot
-everyone

>>216482569
That's stupid. You're stupid.

>>216482569
Joker has killed killers as well, so he’s probably worthy multiple killers. If Batman kills him does he inherit that number of killers or does he only gain one? If it’s the latter then he’s reduced the number of killers

>>216482519
Bale’s Batman was very loose/hypocritical with the no kill rule. Pretty sure he outright abandoned it at the end of the dark night. DCAU Batman was very strict as you imply, he refused to let the Hush die nearly at the cost of his own life.

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>>216482534
this
moral of story, once you pop you can't stop

Pacification propaganda. Homicide can be justified when it's defensive. Unjustified homicide is called 'murder'. You can kill without being a murderer, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>216482534
Also if you then commit suicide you are technically able to reduce the amount of killers in the world to 0.

>>216482479
Yea but if you let capital punishment do the killing, you have only killed one person while making dozens of people complicit in their killing, so you increase the number significantly, depending on the size of the bureaucracy, using jail is the same thing, but slavers instead of killers.

>>216482519
I have zero moral responsibility to untie a dumbass kid who somehow got into a whacky cartoon situation.

>>216482479
Batman originally didn't kill anyone because he's a kid's comic book character who goes around beating up criminals.
The ongoing effort to rationalize Batman not killing anyone as they've made him darker and edgier has resulted in him just being a totally insane retard in every modern iteration.

Joker breaks out of prison regularly. Roughing him up and leaving him for the cops is all well and good if he's in a kid's cartoon, but when you decide that he's an edgelord who kills dozens of fucking people every time he escapes, suddenly Batman just turns into an idiot.
>No, I can't kill him... I'll be just like him!
Jesus christ

>>216482633
arguably, in a democracy, capital punishment means that every voter is complicit in the killing. and therefore also complicit in every imprisonment, even the spurious ones. and all the slavery that goes on in prisons.

clearly, monarchy is the only answer.

>>216482569
So if I kill someone who has killed 10 people, am I now a killer or am I a 11x killer? If I go onto kill another killer that has killed 10, am I a 22x killer or a 220x killer?

>>216482519
Walt didn't "let" Jane die, he purposely turned her body so she would choke on her own vomit.

>>216482479
What if they killed two people?

>>216482785
No he didn't, he bumped her by accident and didn't realize he had until she started choking. If she had started throwing up a few minutes later, when he would have left the room, he never would have known he contributed to her death.

>>216482479
Never said that. This is a 9gag meme. Be better, OP

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>>216482519

>>216482479
if you kill two or more killers, the number goes down.

>>216482479
>kill all killers in the world
I WILL BE THE ONE

>if you rape a rapist, the combined diameter of bussy gapes actually increases
whoa, I never thought about that

>>216482817
No, but even in your scenario, he didn't just "let" the train run over her, he bound her to the tracks himself.

>>216482862
Is that why the cool kids these days shifted to mass murder instead of serial killing?

>>216482479
What if he kills more then one?

>>216482720
This is why Burton's Batman was the best modern take. Dumbasses like Kevin Smith don't know what they're talking about. Batman in the real world WOULD kill. Knocking somebody unconscious can be lethal in reality and Batman does it all the time. Only a child couldn't understand this.

>>216482479

>Kill every single killer in the world
>Then commit suicide
>There is now 0 killers in the world

Checkmate batman.

>>216482895
>he bound her to the tracks himself.
No, that still implies an intentional act. I'm not the one that proposed the train track scenario, but if we are going to use the scenario that another anon proposed, what happened in the scene is that Walt while crossing the train tracks accidentally bumped into a handle that diverted the train from going onto track A onto track B instead, and unfortunately track B is where drunk kids go to sleep after a night of partying in this hypothetical.
Now if Walt notices he bumped the handle the diverts the train onto track B, he is making a choice that the drunk kid will die by not grabbing the handle and diverting the train back onto track A. But if he doesn't spot that the train has been diverted onto track B, he is not making the choice for the drunk kid to die, he hasn't purposefully let them die, even though he is still ultimately responsible but without knowing he is.

>>216482479
I only cut off arms.

>>216483063
You may not be a killer, but maiming people is wrong, and bad. It's badong.

>>216483056
>No, that still implies an intentional act.
No it doesn't, it implies that the reason she was bound to the tracks (or made to choke on her own vomit) was directly because of his actions.

>what happened in the scene is that Walt while crossing the train tracks accidentally bumped
Ok nice trolley problem, but actively creating a situation that leads to someone else's death through your own negligence is completely different than the happening to come across someone dying situation through no fault of your own.

>>216482479
so if two countries are at war nobody should kill anyone? or it's just justified to kill in a war where soldiers follow orders and not kill murderers or delinquents that are a threat?
dumb fucking stupid logic

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>>216482479
Bruh what if you kill like 20 killers though

>>216483136
>was directly because of his actions.
But she didn't throw up because of his actions, she didn't take drugs because of him. Accidentally bumping someone that's sleeping does not kill a person, nor does it cause them to throw up. Except if they are high out of their minds on something like heroin and they aren't eating right, nor are treating their bodies right. She tied herself to the tracks and set up the lever that diverts the train from Track A to track B.
Ultimately, Jane did far more to contribute to her own death than Walt did, except that Walt could have saved her since he noticed her choking. Walt did not make her take heroin, Walt did not bump her on purpose and he did not attempt to make her throw up on purpose. She is ultimately much more responsible for all those 3 things happening than he is, but Walt is responsible for not saving her when he noticed she was choking on her own vomit.

But if he simply left the room without knowing she was choking, even though his actions unintentionally contributed to it happening, then there are absolute no choice involved from him in her death.

There are 100 killers in a room plus me. That means 99% of people on the room are killers.
If I kill one of the killers, I become a killer, meaning 100% of the people in the room are now killers.
No matter how many more killers I kill, 100% of people on the room remain killers.
By killing, I’ve permanently increased the percentage of killers in the room.

>>216483222
>If you don't know you did it you aren't at fault
>>>/wsg/6039092

>>216483249
Okay, let's say that's room A, and next to room A there's room B where there's a single killer and 99 people that has never killed anyone. You exit room A, the percentage of killers in that room now drops to 0 and you enter room B and kill the killer there. The percentage of killers in room B has now dropped by half to 1%, even though you have now killed 101 people. You leave room B, and the percentage drops to 0% and you go back to room A to restore the status quo and wait until you die of starvation or dehydration. The percentage of killers in both rooms are now 0%.

>>216482479
Then just kill two or more killers
Even if you kill only one, let's say the Joker, you have replaced a killer that murders innocents with one who is moral, restrained, and only kills one evil person (the Joker)

>>216482479
If you kill 10 killers then there's 9 killers less and only one left (you), batman is a fag

>>216483222
>But she didn't throw up because of his actions, she didn't take drugs because of him.
She died because of his actions, your scenario isn't about keeping people off drugs, its about keeping them alive.

>Accidentally
It wasn't an accident, he broke into their house to do shady things.

>Jane did far more to contribute to her own death than Walt did,
Nope they got high on heroin constantly and she didn't die until he got involved, illegally broke into their bedroom, and positioned her body to choke on her vomit.

>Walt is responsible for not saving her
He is responsible for putting her in the position that lead to her death.

>then there are absolute no choice involved from him in her death.
Except of course his choice to break into their house and reposition her body so she died.

>>216482479
Batman never said that. It shows how easily people believe shit they see on the Internet.

>>216482479
If I kill 10, 9 remain
Isn't math wonderful?!

>>216482502
there's an important distinction between killing and murder. murder is unjustified killing, while sometimes killing is justified, as one example when killing a murderer, or enemy combatants in war as another example.

>>216483285
Not what I said, just pointing out the difference in agency and laying out the contributing causes. There's a big difference between an accident versus active choice to kill someone, hence why there's like 4 or 5 different degrees or charges for being fully or partially responsible for someone's death.
I guess nuance flies right over your head?

>>216482763
>monarchy is the only answer.
How do we select a monarch? What is our recourse if the monarch turns out to be shitty?

>>216483317
>She died because of his actions
No, she died because she was a heroin junkie who made several really poor decisions in a row.

>It wasn't an accident, he broke into their house to do shady things.
But not to kill her. He did not mean to bump her, nor did he expect that bump to cause her to throw up.

>Nope they got high on heroin constantly and she didn't die until he got involved, illegally broke into their bedroom, and positioned her body to choke on her vomit.
Heroin addicts die all the time, it could have just as easily been Jessie accidentally bumping her in their sleep causing her to turn over and die. Her and Jessie had only gotten high a few times together at this point and she was already devolving fast into full on addiction, she would have been dead in weeks or months at most of an overdose if her and Jessie got to go away with his cut of the deal.

>He is responsible for putting her in the position that lead to her death.
He didn't "put her in the position", he bumped her lightly and she turned over in her sleep. And then started vomiting because of being high on heroin, and her body didn't react to chocking, again because of being high on heroin. Had she been sober, even if Walt broke into the house and turned her over from her side to lay on her back purposefully, she would not have died or received any harm at all from that.

>Except of course his choice to break into their house and reposition her body so she died.
But he didn't "reposition" her.

>>216483367
>What is our recourse if the monarch turns out to be shitty?
Kill him or her. After a few monarchs assassinated, the monarchs will learn what they can get away with, and then further on they will learn the better they perform their duties for the people, the more they benefit themselves as well.

>>216483491
And what if the first thing the monarch does it to take away everyone's weapons and kill anyone who resists?

>>216483511
How can said monarch do that if they get killed the moment they try to? It's going to be 1 monarch against the entire nation, how is he or she going to overpower everyone else by force?

>>216482502
you're really fucking stupid aren't you? what if batman killed 500 killers? that means there's now 499 less killers. Fucking stupid retard die

>>216483540
Have you ever picked up a history book?

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>>216483461
>No, she died because she was a heroin junkie who made several really poor decisions in a row.
No, she had been doing that for many years and only died when Walt rolled her over and intentionally left her to die.

>But not to kill her. He did not mean to bump her
But he did.
>nor did he expect that bump to cause her to throw up.
Thanks for conceding that it was the bump that caused her to throw up. I accept your concession that walt killed jane.

>Heroin addicts die all the time,
But she didn't, she died when he caused her to die.

>it could have just as easily been Jessie accidentally bumping her in their sleep causing her to turn over and die.
But it wasn't it was walt that turned her over and caused her death.

>He didn't "put her in the position", he bumped her lightly and she turned over in her sleep.
No he violently shook jessie, the body she was depending on to stay on her side so she wouldn't choke and caused her to move and die.

>But he didn't "reposition" her.
He clearly did, you even admitted he also caused her to vomit.

>>216482486
A dead killer is still a killer, retard.

>>216483669
Yes, and the way monarchies came into being was through force and smart decisions over generations that lead to the monarchs controlling the military.
But if we are to revert democracy back into monarchies, the monarch doesn't have the undisputed loyalty of the military, nor of every citizen with weapons, nor can they enact their will onto the populace with force now the same way a monarch could hundreds of years ago.
If a monarch was chosen tomorrow in any western nation (some of us in Europe have symbolic ones already) they would have to earn the loyalty and goodwill of the populace first, and especially the military and police forces. Why would those enact the monarchs will if the monarchs will isn't in their own best interest?

>>216482597
Watching Batman Begins right now, he was blowing up police cars with mines, the news said no one died, but they didn't mention how many cops were left crippled.

>>216483698
>she had been doing that for many years
No, she was in and out of the AA program, and with monitoring by her father preventing her from going too far off the rails. But with Jessie's cut of the meth sold, she through him, finally had the resources to run away and buy as much heroin as she wanted. She was sober and in the program when she rented to Jessie, even though she saw the danger signs, that was the first of many really poor decisions on her part that ultimately lead to her death.

>But he did.
In the gif you just posted, it clearly shows he didn't touch her, nor intend to bump her.

>Thanks for conceding that it was the bump that caused her to throw up
A light bump does not cause a sleeping person to throw up, nor does it prevent them from waking up. It's like blaming the straw for breaking the camel's back, when any rational understanding tells you that it was an incredibly minor contribution.

>he died when he caused her to die.
He didn't though.

>it was walt that turned her over and caused her death.
Nope, it was the heroin. Being turned over in your sleep does not cause death.

>the body she was depending on to stay on her side
Exactly, addicts high on heroin don't stay perfectly still while sleeping. It was just a matter of time before she would have died due to the heroin usage.

>He clearly did, you even admitted he also caused her to vomit.
No, he lightly bumped her due to shaking Jessie, again shown by your gif, which contributed to causing her to vomit. But to repeat myself, lightly bumping someone sleeping on their side does not cause people to vomit, except if they are high on something like heroin and aren't eating right, nor treating their body right. A light bump does not cause a healthy sober person to vomit and choke to death.

>>216482486
>KILL THE JOKER TO SAVE MILLIONS? NOOO ALFRED I MUST LET HIM LIVE

>>216483756
Last 8 years one side or the other was mad about the presidency but the cops military and country kept chuggin

>>216482479
if you kill the killer he won't be able to kill again. the killer killer won kill again

>>216482479
but the number of future victims goes down, retard

>>216484017
And no president has attempted to disarm the military or the police, and in the states where gun restrictions have been tightened and the availability to buy guns legally have been tightened, it's been through (at least symbolically) democratic processes.

There has been no monarch declaring they are confiscating the guns and every other weapon from both the general populace or the military and every other government agency or institutions that handles and carries weapons.

>>216483955
>she was in and out of the AA program
Because she was on heroin, you don't go into AA for not being on drugs.

>intend
Intention has nothing to do with it, the gif clearly shows that he moved her body into the position that lead to her death.

>A light bump does not cause a sleeping person to throw up
Ok, so you are an unreliable narrator and the things you say can't be trusted since your were just making the point that walt's violent shaking is what caused her to throw up.

>He didn't though.
Except he did an you admitted he made her throw up and you accept that its his fault she was in a position that would cause her to choke to death.

>Nope, it was the heroin.
Nope she had done a lot of heroin and they even took precautions to sleep on their side together so they wouldn't choke.

>addicts high on heroin don't stay perfectly still while sleeping.
Except its a sedative which does relax the body and make it harder to move in your sleep.

>it was just a matter of time
No, she didn't get to have that time to see if it would play out the way you describe because walt broke into her house, moved her body, caused her to throw up, and watched her die. Heroin addicts generally die because they are so relaxed their heart stops or they stop breathing, not because someone breaks into their house, shakes their bed, and causes them to vomit and choke on it.

>shown by your gif
No the gif show him violent shaking jesse enough for the bed to wobble and her to be moved.

>A light bump does not cause a healthy sober person to vomit and choke to death.
She clearly isn't healthy, her poor health doesn't entitle drug kingpins to break into her house and move her body around so she chokes and dies while he watches.

>>216482479
What if its a cereal killer?

>>216482479
>there is one killer
>kill the killer
>there is one killer (you)
>suicide
>0 killers
BTFO

>>216482479
I used to think Batman was cool and noble for this.

Now I see this ideology applied to the real world and I pray for executions and lynchings to return.

Fuck Batman. Fictional nigga.

>>216484286
>Because she was on heroin, you don't go into AA for not being on drugs.
Exactly the point, addicts either get clean permanently, or they die. She clearly didn't have it in her to stay clean.

>Intention has nothing to do with it
It does when the argument started by you trying to claim Walt killed her on purpose, and me telling you that the bump was accidental. The intent on Walt came from not preventing her from choking to death once he saw she had vomited into her own mouth, not when he was trying to wake Jessie. It was an act of not preventing her death, not deliberately causing it.

>Ok, so you are an unreliable narrator and the things you say can't be trusted since your were just making the point that walt's violent shaking is what caused her to throw up.
Go back and read the full context of my arguments. I've said from the beginning that the bump was a contributing factor, and in the post you quoted, the full argument is that the bump did not intend to make her throw up, nor that it was the bump exclusively causing it. I've repeatedly said that bumping someone that's sleeping does not on it's own cause them to vomit, it was not the primary cause which I've stated from the beginning.

>Nope she had done a lot of heroin and they even took precautions to sleep on their side together so they wouldn't choke.
Which is a really dumb "precaution" if any movement on Jessie causes he to turn over and choke to death. If he wakes up, still high or just groggy from sleeping, and stumbles towards the bathroom without looking behind him, she can just as easily be turned over from that and start choking to death without Jessie noticing.

>Except its a sedative which does relax the body and make it harder to move in your sleep.
And yet, addicts don't stay perfectly still while 'sleeping' after doing heroin.

Comment too long to cover the rest, but it's just retreading ground I've already covered.

What if you indirectly killed a killer?

>>216482479
The only explanation that really worked for me was
>if I kill I'll go insane and probably be a mass murderer someday withh no boundaries
That his fear of himself is what prevents him from simply killing the clown, rather than autistic moralfagging

>>216482479
>newkillcount = 0;
>ogkillcount = 10;
>if (newkillcount <1) {
> newkillcount +=1; }
>else { newkillcount +=1;
> ogkillcount-=1}
It's not hard retards.

>>216484774
Yep, that's the only viable reason for Batman's no killing rule. He's afraid of his own capability, of initiating a slippery slope he can never come back from, and because of his immense resources, will power and ability, who could ever stop him if he starts just killing anyone he thinks might hurt someone in the future? He understands that once you give into temptation once, it becomes easier and easier to do so each subsequent time.

>>216484745
>It does when the argument started by you trying to claim Walt killed her on purpose
No what I said, don't care for your bad faith arguing anymore. There is a huge difference between someone wandering across some kid on a track and someone breaking into the train station accidentally causing trains to derail and kill a bunch of people.

Heroin addicts might die, but she died because Walt broke into her house, moved her body, and watched her choke on the vomit he induced by violently shaking a sleeping junkie.

>>216484747
Then the number of killers is divided by the square root of killers

>>216483626
i hope this is just a bait response to bait

>>216482479
But it doesn't go up. Release the Epstein files.

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>>216484916
>Walt didn't "let" Jane die, he purposely turned her body so she would choke on her own vomit.
Is this not you? Because that's the post I responded to, pointing out that the bumping, nor causing her to choke was ever intentional. And the blame for the vomiting and choking lays far more on her own choices than Walt shaking Jessie.
Jane's death only ever became intentional on Walt's part when he noticed she was choking, and he chose not to intervene. If you have abandoned your original phrasing, or if it was someone else, then there's nothing to argue about.

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>>216482479
Kill everyone that isn't a killer. The killers will start to kill eachother reducing the number of killers in the world.

>>216484947
You can't even explain why he's wrong. By your logic, Batman goes through mitosis every time he kills someone.

>>216482502
>3 people, 2 killers 1 batman
>batman kills 2 killers
>now there is only 1 killer left
one less killer in the world. Now imagine that on a mass scale. Sometimes the pros outweigh the cons. Almost as retarded as the protagonist killing hundreds of armed henchmen to finally get to the big bad guy only to say “no, if I kill him be just as bad as him!”

>killers
we're allowed to kill one

>>216485184
>Almost as retarded as the protagonist killing hundreds of armed henchmen to finally get to the big bad guy only to say “no, if I kill him be just as bad as him!”
I still struggle to understand why so many 'people' defended Druckmans shitty writing....

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>KILL ALL KILLERS THEN KILL SELF
>NO KILLERS LEFT
CHECKMATE KILLERS

>>216482479
>>216482502
If one guy kills multiple killers, he's not increasing the number of killers. The scale doesn't reset with each kill. Batman's view of justice implies there is good in others and that you should keep trying to help them. Meanwhile the Joker jonkled another dozen people because Batman refused to put down a genuinely feral dog.

>>216485225
>Mr Brightside starts playing

>>216482479
math isn't his strong suit

>>216483010
The best was Batfleck, but he went full pussy again at the end of BvS.

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>killing
so uncivilized.

>>216482479
Kill a killer, kill two

>>216482479
The number of potential victims plummets from hundreds to 1. Fuck you batman.

>>216482479
The no-kill rule makes zero sense outside of children's stories.

>kill six million killers
What now fagman???

>>216482489
>>216482514
lel

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>>216482479
Castrated soiboi take.

>>216482479
Some killing is justified. others are not justified
Batman is a retard.

>>216482479
If you rape a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same and the number of rapists increases.

>>216482486
Bateman is so stupid for being so smert

>>216483211
>tranny AI posting
it's almost 2026 bruh

>>216482577
>>216482590
>>216482771
Yes.

>>216482479
It's the dumbest shit ever. Rapists and murderers should be killed. Capeshit is jewish brainwashing.

>>216485237
>he's not increasing the number of killers
But he's increasing the quality of killers.
Kill one killer and you're a killer. Kill two and you're a double killer. Kill three and you're a multi killer. Four makes you an ultra killer, and beyond that you become a MO-MO-MO-MONSTER KILLER (killer).

>>216482479
Correct, that's why you at least kill two killers to make the world a better place.

>>216485210
>I still struggle to understand why so many 'people' defended Druckmans shitty writing....
What's he known for? I recognize that gay trope from the Robotech video game on ps2

>>216482479
Batman's a childrens' character who believes in restorative justice. Why are manchildren crying over how "flawed" his logic is?

If you kill your enemy, they win

>>216483699
no

>>216482479
batman was a gay pedophile
>>216482487
but that's what made him evil

>>216482479
batman isn't black so I don't have to pretend to give a shit what he thinks

>>216482519
I didn't tie the (most likely indian) kid to the train tracks. This is simply not my problem

is is true that Batman has never said this?

>>216482479
What if I kill a THOUSAND killers? What then? What if I nuke Killer Town?

>>216482479
Is this like the veganism of superhero quandaries? There's nothing wrong with being a killer if the reason for killing is justified. I guess that's too complicated for a homosexual who stalks men at night.

>>216483699
In that case in the OP pic when the person kills a killer, the total number of killers would increase by 1 by your logic, thereby btfoing the meme you are defending

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>>216482479
What actually happens

>>216482479
If you save a mass murderer that would die by their own fault without your interference and he proceed to commit genocie right away, you are genocidal as well having as much fault as the killer, nice logic, Batman indirectly killed more innocents than any Dc hero and most villains.

>>216483698
>posting a gif proving your entire argument wrong

No Name on the Bullet (1959) is about the Batman scenario. It's about an ethical assassin's morality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inbjwOklD34

>Take two men. Say they have robbed and lied, and have never paid. The man whom one of them has robbed comes to me and says, "Kill that man who's robbed me." And I kill him. The other man becomes ill and would die, except for a physician who returns him to health to rob and lie again. Who's the villain in this piece? Me or the physician?

>>216482487
If you rape a rapist, the number of rapists remains the same.

>>216482479
>If you rape a rapist the number of rapists......

>>216490028
Trying to read that hurt my head. Poor phrasing and too much greentext

>>216490132
Go to school.

I fart in fish tanks

>>216482479
"If I buttrape robin's boy pussy the number of pedophiles in the world remains the same"
-batman

>>216482486
*fewer

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>>216482502
No, you kill the mass killer and you don't kill again BAM solved

Think like a brilliant

If you're a killer already before you kill the killer then N_k reduces by one

>>216482479
if you kill two killers, there's one less killer in the world...

>>216482479
That's not a real Batman quote though.

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>>216484975

Wow Batman moral fags BTFO.

Forget about Bruce Wayne being a retard for a second, why doesn’t Gotham have the death penalty?

>>216490570
Gotham is obviously a liberal city.

>>216490594
Kek salt in the wound, you pissed a lot of redditors now.

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>>216482479
Bad people doing bad things to good people is bad
Good people doing bad things to bad people is good
Very few people on this Earth are able to understand this, the rest are despicable anarchists whether they realise it or not.

>>216483222
In any case, that bitch Jane was going to kill herself and Jesse in a matter of weeks. She was an insane druggie and wanted to fly away. Either Jane would die first and Jesse would die because neither Mike nor Walt could get to him to help him recover, or he'd just die first of an OD. Killing Jane was the only way of saving Jesse's life from that junkie succubus.

>>216488096
Last of us 2. Daily reminder Druckman is an israeli jew with literal brain damage from childhood.

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>>216491332
Also he's one creepy jew, picrel is nightmare-fuel.

"Killing is inherently le bad!"
>*put on clothes safely and cheaply imported from Indonesia because navies kill pirates*
>*walk to store safely because police have the threat of lethal force*
>*but flesh of killed animals for forgettable meals*

Batman is a traumatized boy, his philosophy is stupid. Killing is a vital component of peace keeping.

>>216482479
kill 6000000 killers, there's 5999999 less killers in the world

>>216482479
But if you're already a killer it goes down.

Two wrongs do make a right assuming killers are something desirable to minimize

>>216482479
what fucking retarded shit.
1 killer v 0 killer 0 killer kills 1 killer now 1 killer, 1 killer now kills another killer 2 killers dead, 3,4,5,6, the only way to safely outwit the batman is kill as many as possible.

>>216482486
Thats stupid. You're really only a killer when you kills things with no just cause. Killing out of a code, lets say simply to bring order and justice to the world doesn't make you a killer and as already stated lowers the killer population after multiple kills.

Batman not killing is him basically admitting his justice is flawed. If he doesnt have the right to kill criminals then why does he have the right to pummel and apprehend criminals?

>>216482479
In a world of twenty killers, a killer killing nineteen killers will leave the world with only one killer.

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>>216482479
Yes.

>>216493953
but we did execute criminals
for a very very long time too
and it didn't do shit

>>216494003
shhhhh let him chud out
He needs to get over it on his own

>Lets say theres 1000 killers in a city
>Kill 1 of them
>Become a killer
>Still 1000 killers
>Kill another
>You can't become a killer again
>Theres now 999 killers
>Kill the other 998
>Theres only one killer

>>216482479
Batman needs to retake elementary school math.

>>216494003
>and it didn't do shit
You are wrong, retarded and possibly brown. Executing criminals is the very reason why Europeans don't behave like black savages anymore. Anthropologists can tell you how: https://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2013/06/how-pacification-of-europe-came-to-end.html

If you kill a killer, your a cop

>>216494052
that guy you killed had a family and his kids/wife now have a reason to become killers
guess you have to kill them as well

>>216482479
>If you rape Joker you can nut in his asshole.
t. batman

>>216494084
>blogspot
lol

>>216482489
AYO LIL DONNIE!

>>216482479
he never said this btw

>>216494123
why reply if you dont have a rebuttal

>>216494163
rebuttal? you posted a fucking blogspot link

>>216482479
Kill the killer then immediately kill myself. There, refuted.

>>216494177
>you
not me anon, just because we're all named anonymous doesn't mean we're one person!
what kind of nitpicking is that, anyway? it's very valid research. are you the type of person to walk with your head down?

>>216494239
might as well post a dailymail link

>>216482486
Yeah but now there's a double-killer which is twice as bad as a regular killer.

When did the myth of "prisoner reform" occur? Jail exists to protect law abiding citizens, not to reform criminals.

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>Provides more justice than Batman ever did within 60 seconds of pure ecstasy and clussy

>>216494256
anon, a different website isn't going to fix your incapacity to interpret data!

>>216494274
norway
lowest crime rate in the world and they operate purely on reform

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>>216494022

>>216494309
i'm just going to ignore all your shitposts from here on
have fun screaming to the wind

>>216494339
we accept your concession and pray you gain the ability to engage in discourse

>>216494123
Written by an anthropologist, citing other anthropologists

>>216482479
Kill 2 killers

>>216494299
His methods are to humane for Batman hed rather than break bones than cause a little tenderness down there

>>216494335
White people dont find shit like that funny. Tone it down if you want to pass.

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>>216494582

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>>216494533
>nf has opps on 4chin
lmfao since when

>>216494582
>>216494652
Is that the Postal guy?

>>216494399
why stop there? kill all the killers. then there will only be a single killer in the entire world and that killer only kills other killers so now he doesn't kill anymore.
OPs quote is the single most stupid retarded bait ever

>>216483698
who is "jessie"?

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>>216494729
hitman #2

>I rape the Joker
>But doctor, I am the Joker :'(

>>216482489
this would be a hall of fame post if the pic was a batman edit. someone steal the idea and do it. remake the thread and pretend it happened organically

>>216493953
The downside is that eventually people realize that they're going to die if they get caught so they fight to the death when caught and start incorporating as much killing into their crimes as possible because theres no reason not to.

>>216482720
>Batman originally didn't kill anyone

>Joker
Wasnt always a super terrorist, a killer sure, but never to the scale he later became.

>>216494084
>>216494123
What he is leaving out is that it took over a thousand years.

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>"Rape the killer out of him instead"
Based?

>>216494299
>Destroy one of the most iconic villain of the last 100 years in one rape
>tips fedora
>Do a 360 and moonwalk away
How can one prison guard be so based???

>>216482569
But that would make you quadruple killer no?
Or would it make you just a triple killer?

>>216482519
If a homeless man starves while you have food, did you kill him?

>>216483699
When you die, you are no longer "in the world" as the meme says.

>>216482479
what happens if you kill a non killer? that means there's 2 killers in the world. That's crazy dude

>>216490210
Same same

>>216482486
So you're a returd that doesn't understand induction?

>kill one killer -> # killers remains same
>kill one killer -> # killers remains same
>...
>do N times

# killers still remains the same

It's like doing (+1) + (-1) N times, it's always 0

>>216489742
Its gonna be pretty hard for them to be killers if they're dead, isnt it? Think.

>>216490379
Cope

The only way to reduce the number of killers is to kill somebody and then seek absolution. The hardest part is forgiving yourself.

>>216482479
If he were really the world's greatest detective he would figure out the answer is to kill all the world's killers and then himself. Sherlock wins again

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>>216482479
Theres only one law in this town.

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But the potential killed is lessened, dummy

>>216501216
what if each killer killed 5 people? now youre playing with house money

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>>216482479
>Faggot

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>GO GO GADGET BATCOCK

>>216482479
so kill ten killers then and the number goes down by nine, retards

>>216494582
Maybe you shouldn't have puked on batman's boots.

>>216482479
Is there an actual comic where he says this

>>216493353
Batman doesn't kill because he knows if he did even once, no matter the reason, he wouldn't be able to stop himself. He's insane. He drew an arguably arbitrary line in the sand, reinforced it with his memories of his father (a doctor, someone who saves lives and doesn't ever take him), and declared he wouldn't cross it.

He's nuts. Which is why the Joker likes him so much, Joker believes the Bat is just as wacky as he is, but the Bat refuses to admit it.

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>>216482479
>I wouldn't kill anyone. I'd watch, and that's what no one did.

>>216482486
>kill a killer = at least two kills have been committed
>kill two killers = at least three

>>216482720
What's worse is that Batman WILL save the Joker. Batman's stood up to cops, judges, other superheroes, the LITERAL WRATH OF GOD, all to save the Joker who's killed innumerable innocents on top of causing untold property damage and incalculable pain and suffering.

I wish I saved the page but there's one where Batman princess carries the Joker into a Gotham ER and shouts that the hospital staff has to drop everything and leave everyone else to save the Joker.

>>216494582
Moral maximalism always annoyed me in DC. The worst was with that Dr Light guy and when WW killed Max Lord

>>216482486
According to Batman, you become two killers.

>>216483699
If that was true the number of killers would increase in OPs pic. Dumbass

>>216490057
>But the happiness in the world increased as a whole. That's pretty cool!

>>216483010
>Batman in the real world WOULD kill
Batman wouldn't exist in the real world. No part of him

>>216482479
Muh realism faggots itt
Nobody cares. Let the character who doesn't kill stay as a character who doesn't kill.
Follow a character you like more, 99,9% of them kill

>>216482479
retarded gandhi hippie bullshit

>>216505515
then follow a character that isn't in the DC "trinity"

The abolition of the death penalty is a modern invention. Here are biblical, theological, historical, sociological and utilitarian arguments for the death penalty:

https://orthochristian.com/125070.html

https://youtu.be/MIZBJk46xrI

https://youtu.be/Ar14X29FuQ8

https://youtu.be/uj4thoTDtA4

https://youtu.be/6fsjo4jry9Y

>>216482844
Where is the ship of thesaurus?

>>216505565
>biblical
stopped reading right there, faggot

>>216505565
>utilitarian
Bike cuck is a utilitarian concept

>>216505627
as are lampshades

>>216483211
post more

>>216482479
wrong his ass backwards logic lets him get to keep being batman. no homicidal clowns at large means no batman required.

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I'm a simp for Jason Batman

>>216505042
Wrong again, dipshit. If you kill someone then you were always a killer, you just hadn't killed yet.

>>216482479
It refutes itself.

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>>216488048
>But he's increasing the quality of killers
Why have ten low quality killers when you could have one who kills ten times as many?

>kill a killer who kills thousands of innocents
>be a killer who only kills one killer who killed thounsands, therefor the better killer
pretty easy logic

>>216507364
why do we pay women hefty salaries to redesign (ruin) brand mascots

>>216482486
Their children will grow up to be killers or any close relative will become one. It all balances out. If Batman kills, it proves the theory because he became Batman due to his parents death.

>kill 7 killers
>6 killers killed
>1 killer remains
Ez

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Reminder to rape ALL sincere jokerposters

>>216485599
He only fought space monsters in either iteration of Justice League, but he killed plenty of them

>>216482486
Fpbp

>>216494257
What if he kills a serial killer? That should give him enough killer capital to kill a bit more and still not increase the whatever you know?

>>216494257
>commits sudoku
now the killers in the world have decreased :)

>>216482479
First of all nothing to do with tv and film
Second of all this was written by some libtard looney troonie retard, not by an actual creators of Batman
Both Batman and Robin and Superman killed per respective creators , because creators weren't retards, they knew that violence can't ever be innocent.

>>216507407
What about killers without children?

>>216507399
because we are still ruled by retarded boomers

>>216482479
>Arrest killer
>state puts him to death
>Number of killers stays the same

>>216507407
>he became Batman due to
criminal scum shooting his father as father tried to punch him out
and That Batman killed criminals and used guns too, because Batman isn't looney troonie libtard retard

>>216483010
The concussion thing is right. With the sheer number of criminals Batman is seen to be tackling, he would eventually find one with an illness or weakness that caused them to die from blunt trauma or internal bleeding.

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>>216508870
A hypothetical black man is born every time this occurs. This solves the Batman equation.

>>216508870
NTA but you can replace 'children' with 'person who was deeply affected by their death' and you get the same result.

>>216509349
Not every killer has people that will mourn them or wish to emulate them following their death though

>>216482479
>imaginary hero: I will uphold this particular arbitrary moral principle
>nerds: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>216482535
Doesn't work in the comics. The big fish stay alive and the criminals breed faster than Frank can punish them. It'd work in real life though.

>>216482479
1 killer - 2 killers = -1 killers
Wow so hard

>>216482502
That's some stupid batmath you have there. Perhaps I was already a killer when I went on a killing spree until I was the only killer left?

>>216482479
This bullshit has to be PEAK midwit reddit idiocy

>If you kill a killer the number of killers killed is killed by the killer
BRAVO NOLAN

>>216506773
Post less.

>>216507235
Todd Bridges and some kid from Little House on the Prairie stuffed him in a garbage can for being a prick all the time.

>>216510329
>>* looney troonie alternative version of imaginary foundational pop-culture superhero: I will uphold this particular arbitrary moral principle that only makes sense to libtard looney troonie retard fucktard that can only latch onto something good and pervert it
>normal good people : you are looney troonie libtard retard, back off!

>>216482479
So never stop at 1

>>216482489
a daring synthesis

>>216493953
>trusting the state with the power to kill anybody they consider "violent criminals"
If you don't see how this ends you are a fucking moron

>>216482489
YO LIL BATTY

>>216494003
the people lynching criminals significantly reduced black and brown crime rates

>>216511711
do you have anything to back that claim up?

>>216511711
That's because it's the actual people enforcing the rules not the state. I'm in favor of revenge killings and vigilante justice but against death penalty.

>>216511730
Did blacks and browns have the courage to riot and burn down cities back then compared to now?

>>216511804
nothing huh

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>he unironically argues for the right of billionaires to commit extrajudicial killings at their own whim simply because they have more resources

The midwittiest argument to ever midwit.

>>216511829
but I just did, the rise of criminals is connected to the rise of the modern day liberal

>>216507275
Nope

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>>216482479
>If you refuse to save a person from a position of imminent death that you placed them in you aren't a murderer
it's exhausting trying to keep up with all the mental gymnastics Bruce uses to paint himself as the ultimate hero who never does anything wrong in any situation

>>216511884
quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur

>>216482479
Based killer mathematician

>>216510249
Yes, I don't doubt that there exist many people who's passing won't even be noticed by anyone beyond their employer. But if that's not the case then the act of killing a killer can produce more killers, or at the very least suffering and dysfunction for people who don't deserve it. It's why in movies when a person is cornered and about to be killed, you often see them pleading for mercy by saying "I have kids/a wife/a mother/someone dependent on me". The person himself might even deserve death but the ripple effects of it are gonna be felt on people close to them who are innocent who don't deserve any of that pain.

>>216482479
>>216482502
the real reason the quote even exists is because batman’s writers need a contrived moral hurdle to justify why he doesn’t just shoot the joker in the face and end literally every plot ever.

if batman kills the joker, the franchise is over.
so they give him koan-tier nonsense like this to keep the hamster wheel spinning.

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>>216493953
>t.

>>216511651
This

>>216511942
die, liberal, you don't belong in this world

>>216482479
Yeah but the numbers of victims doesn't you fucking retard. I hope who ever wrote that line has kids and the kids get cancer.

>>216482486
>>216482489
Batman rekt

>>216512212
>>216511845

It exists because in the real world, you would shit bricks if Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos just started executing people. It's a childish power fantasy, not a philosophical narration on justice.

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Means is not a virtue. If you can't understand that, you have nigger brain.

>>216512652
based

>>216490570
Why don’t the Gotham police just shoot criminals?

Why the fuck is this retarded thread still here

>>216482486
fpbp kek

>>216512898
Why are means not a virtue? And if you really wanna say that, then ends over means is even less of a virtue. What you might call nigger behavior is not caused by them ascribing virtue to means rather than ends, that is quite absurd. Ends justify the means is the shortest and easiest route to achieving some outcome, it requires the least amount of intellectual and physical effort, so why would niggers be against it?

>>216513422
Just because you can doesn't mean you should. This is a very basic principle of the west, it's about temperance and deferring to people better equipped than you. it's an acknowledgement of human fallibility and a check against unfettered ego. The fact I have to explain this tell me your are brown, poor, or fatherless.

>>216513678
I'm not sure if you've answered any of my questions. And retorting with insults when someone points out something you've said that doesn't make sense is surely the mark of superiority, coming from riches and having a father. So you well and truly have me pinned there.

>deferring to people better equipped than you
So you believe when experts tell you to wear a mask and get the vaccine and all the other things, right?

If you let a killer fuck you in the ass, the number of heterosexual men in the world stays the same
Think about that

>>216511651
Yes there is that problem, especially give le "leftists xd" won't let you do it; would you really want them deciding who gets executed - it won't be Jamal that set 3 babies on fire as a joke.

Also there's the problem that you actually DON'T want to execute all violence out of the genepool; two men engaging in mutual combat and one killing the other is a "good" violent crime

>>216511766
Actually makes sense and counterintuitively is less prone to corruption and abuse