Why has the Avatar franchise aged so badly?
>>216489427What are you on about even, it aged like a fine wine and will be compared to LOTR for a long time.
>>216489980>will be compared to LOTR for a long timeLOL
>>216489427There's no chance that you have actually watched or rewatched both movies recently, such that you can make that assessment.
>>216490084>There's no chance that you have actually watched or rewatched both movies recently????
>>216490093Why would someone who dislikes Avatar bother to watch them multiple times? You'd be insulting yourself by sinking so much time into something that is supposedly beneath you
>>216489427Cartoons should be funny
>>216489427it's aging like fine wine
>>216489427it's aging like fine shit
>>216490134It looks fucking real.
>>216489427its soulless commie slopmuh rebels
>>216490134>PS2: The Movie
>>216489427It never had good writing, just survived in the realistic 3d movie hype.
>>216490155Varang's face stands out to me as more obviously CGI than anything else in these movies. Other Na'vi characters generally look convincing enough that it's easy to suspend disbelief. She reminds me of Proxima Midnight that way
>>216490199>e realistic 3d movie hypeWould you say the franchise is a worthy representative of the "realistic" 3d movie hype?
>>216489427the movie is 20 years old and still looks better than anything released today.
>>216490290What a whore
>>216490302she's just drinking
>>216490332Like a whore
>>216490238Transformers actually did it better in my opinion, but avatar got hyped by the big media world widely, that makes your average redditor disagree with me.
>>216490356Transformers had amazing CGI
>>216490290neytiri swallows
>>216489986>Chuds 2003>I ain't watching some gay couple hiking in some D&D knockoff!
>>216490340offensive and incorrect
>>216490332>didn't even invent pottery to store water Even fuckin africans did!
>>216490741na'vi have pots actually
>>216489980Its retarded third world kids who make this low effort shit to get attention and think they are bothering people.
>>216490811unc malding
>>216490811unc much?
>>216490844>>216490865LOL they get so mad when you call them out they have to samefag hahahahahhahahahahah
>>216490811>>216489980>incels high on unobtainiumNext!
>>216490290What was Jekesullie thinking in this moment?
>>216491167>What was Jekesullie thinking in this moment?"Get me out of this PS2 game!"
What's up with all these recent threads trashing on Avatar?These last days the amount of them have increased like 300%, really inorganic
>>216490290>>216490332I get it now, i finally get it.
>>216491208>What's up with all these recent threads trashing on AvatarPreemptive coping about 2 billy box office.
ZERO
>>216491447The compulsion to endlessly assert that it has no cultural impact is itself a form of cultural impact
>>216491471>no cultural impactyour words, not mine! lol!
its just not very good.
>>216491447It starts with one
>Unobtainium
the folders must expand
>>216489427I don´t understand what you mean. Despite it´s contributions to the advancement of technology Avatar has never been culturally relevant. It´s not bad by any means but it´s plot, characters and world are nothing particularly special, let alone generation defining, either. >INB4 it made a quadrillion billies Yeah, i´m aware it made a lot of money and took a long time to make. Good for them, but then again that is no measure for quality. If it was then Fast and the furious and transformers would be regarded as masterpieces of the craft, which we all know they are not. Then again maybe it´s not the movie but the times. Movies are hardly timeless anymore.
>>216491894this poster is german!
>>216490785The fact that Jake Ditches his whole Guerrilla squad cause he got scared reeks of bad writing and there are way smarter ways James Cameron could have got the Sully's to the water tribe.
>>216491894Avatars are not the most amazingly written movies ever, but in that regard they are head and shoulders above what Star Wars or Marvel or Jurassic have done recently. Or, as you said, Fast and Furious or Transformers
>>216491960>cause he got scaredIt's more specifically because Spider was captured, and Jake made the reasonable assumption that Spider would break under interrogation/torture and tell the RDA where the family and the base of operations was.
NO MORE WAMI TUK-TUK
>>216492091>Spider would break under interrogation/torture and tell the RDA where the family and the base of operations was.So move the fucking base. If the plot was something similar to Empire Strikes back where the rebels are scattered due to the RDA's shit and the water tribe shit was just a temporary hiding spot, it would have gelled a lot better.
>>216492017I can totally agree that Disney Wars and Jurassic whatever are irrelevant and laughable in comparison. As you said, Avatar is not particularly memorable or anything but it´s storytelling is at least proficient. But when one is aiming for timeless every movie ever made is one´s competition (or at least every movie within the same genre). Culture, and by extension cultural industries seems uninterested on that these days. It´s all about instant gratification and moving on to the next thing rather than creating something that lasts.
>>216489980https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBeIAeILkabatap
>>216489427Probably because its just a story about blue native Americans and their magic tree? How the fuck long is that supposed to capture an audience?
>>216492376Are you saying it has ZERO cultural impact?
It was always shit idiot.
>>216489427Black face
>>216489427A2 was much better then A1
>>216492612Neyney is so crafty and smart
>>216492652why is whitey so EVIL
>>216492652>>216492897>Shire for me, scorch earth for thee.
>>216492612It looks like a fucking videogame, why do people watch this shit?
>>216492652
>>216492999Those shots are from the new movie that's not out yet. People haven't watched it.
>>216492992Xenos are not human.
>>216493058>Neither are elves or hobbits.
>>216489427It always looks spectacular, but the writing is shit>Earth desperately needs resources to survive>Humans go out to get them>Savage blue people want to kill Humans for trying to mine their planet>Humans are supposedly the bad guys for fighting for their species survival and somehow can't win a war with said savages despite having FUCKING SPACE TRAVEL>It's just some hippy shit about shitting in the woods being better than progress at the end of the day
>>216493675Humans don’t need unobtainium to survive they need it to make money. It’s a metaphor for oil.
>>216489427You can only rehash Pocahontas so many times>>216489980kek great bait
>>216492652so fucking based
>>216493712The rest of my point stands. There's no way in hell a civilization with FTL travel is going to lose to space Sentinel island.
>>216493597Nigga everybody hates elves. That has been a running meme since forever.hobbits are harmless and are like children
>>216493675>Mordor needs resources to survive>Orcs go out to get them>Intolerant pale people kill orcs for trying to mine their lands>Sauron supposedly bad guy for fighting species survival somehow can't win war again un-industrial medieval peasants despite fucking DARK MAGIC and GUNPOWER!!>Just some hippy shit about smoking weed and gardening at the end of the day!
>>216493791I love elves.
>>216493827Both sides have magic and the ring was destroyed by the will of Eru Iluvatar. Trying to throw that shit back at me in a fantasy setting and one you don't even really understand isn't going to work.
>>216493675Sounds like you haven't seen the 2nd one. When the humans return, their goal isn't to mine anything, it's to colonize all of Pandora and displace or "pacify" the Na'vi. And it's looking like the humans will win in the 3rd one
>>216492897you love it slut
>>216493785They only lost the first time because the sentient planet god thing got the entire ecosystem to rise up and fight back. That was fairly realistic.
>>216493868>magic asspull>somehow this makes logic being thrown out the window OKavatar is sci-FI btw
>Avatar 3They will met a tribe of desert na'vis and will be used as metaphors for jews, muslims, indians and aussie abos.They do a thing called tailcut in which they cut their neuro tail's hairs leaving only the tentacles outside.>Avatar 4Na'vi of the ice, eskimos and sami anologies, they kill alien seals and even though the others navis find it horrible they will say how it's part of their culture and social right.>Avatar 5Na'Vis will enter the space age and become like the humans they fought so badly.Pandora will be polluted, they will start colonizing another planet.And so the cycle starts again.Also Eywa will be proved to be a neuro-abomination that sent it's spores on earth and created the myth of God, Jesus, Zeus, Odin, Shiva, Quetzalcoatl and whatever else there is.
Any cool Avatar videogames? Or just garbage?
>>216494250frontiers of pandora is a far cry clone, but it's comfy and has cute na'vi
it really was never good
>>216494004Scifi is magic for atheists
>>216494181>Space white man give a semetic man laws inscribed on two stone tablets
>>216494250The one for wii and DS was cool
>>216494250>Any cool Avatar videogames?Literally any P2 game will give you the full Avatar experience
>>216490172>>216494811>I can render that on my laptop in 5 minutes!
>>216494250Frontiers of Pandora is pretty good if you're a fan of the movies. It gets dismissed by some as "ubislop" because it's structured similarly to a Far Cry, but imo this is a good thing for accessibility reasons, and it's much more than simply taking that formula and putting some Avatar cosmetics on it. Among other things, it does a good job of making you feel like a Na'vi, like how whenever you encounter humans or things made by them, you get a sense of how tall you are relative to them.It has cool types of Pandoran environments that haven't been seen elsewhere, and it tries to visually impress the same way the movies to, to the extent that the current gen consoles will allow
So the first one is about injuns, the second about maoris and the third about a mix between SubSaharan africans and aussie abo desert tribes?
>>216495533>abo-inspired villainess is obsessed with fire, machinery fumes and huffing gasbased cameron
>>216492999> It looks like a fucking videogameWhich one?Post in game graphics not cgi cutscenes
>>216495533Third one is still at least partly about the "Maoris" while the Ash people don't really have an Earth equivalent- an indigenous tribe who feel betrayed by nature and want to conquer it.
>>216489427Still haven't watched it. The only takeaway I gather from the occasional meme is that people want to fuck blue people.
>>216495720>people want to fuck blue peopleAvatards are basically crypto furries
>>216495533They're volcano niggers, so Hawaiians I guess.Pretty fucking on the nose how they were fucking doing hakas
>>216494442Porn
>>216495821They have fur?
>>216495953They have crypto fur
>>216495821Nothing crypto about it, just alien furries like star wars Chewbacca furfags
>>216495954Seems more like nft fur.
>>216495973It's crypto fur
SEX
>>216495877The Haka dance is one of the few things I wish was removed from Way of Water.It serves no purpose other than to tell you "get it?! the Metkayina are the Na'vi equivalent of Maoris! do you get it now??!"
>>216496618Did anon copy and paste my reply from a thread yesterday in agreement, or ironically?
>>216496689>muh quoteworthy reply!>muh online presence!>muh breakthrough!
>>216489427CGI. CGI always ages badly. Terminator 2 looked awesome when it came out, but compare it now to the practical effects of The Terminator, and they generally hold up a lot better.
>>216497375>Jurassic Park>Matrix 1 >Lord of the Rings These all have large amounts of CGI and have aged fine. Out of all the complaints about Avatar, it's rare to see people claim it no longer looks good
>>216497479It looks like shit now because it looked like shit from the start
>>216497504Avatar looked like shit from the start? You're in a tiny minority who think that
>>216496689Ritualposting
Way of water not only is boring but is a giant filler.
>>216497479They would have aged a lot better with entirely practical effects. Even today's CGI will age badly as newer and better techniques come along. The main problem I had with Avatar was the CGI protagonists, they just looked bad. The scenery I can handle, but not some lanky blue cartoon version of Sigourney Weaver.
>>216495675>- an indigenous tribe who feel betrayed by nature and want to conquer it.Arguably the chineses and mongol tribal villages, burning woods and forests to conquer nature in the name of progress
>>216495654Halo 4
>>216498324The title of a game is not imagery from it that can be compared to Avatar
https://x.com/vixenya/status/1998385245033218504new clip of Spider and Kiri, haven't found it anywhere else so I'll post the xitter one
>>216499185
>>216489427When it came out it was cool as fuck watching all the CGI but that's all the whole movie had to offer.Nothing else about the story was compelling or done in a thought provoking or emotionally resonating way
>>216491764its a real term, look it up
>>216491804based avatar furfag
>>216493675>Humans are supposedly the bad guys for fighting for their species survivalfeel like it would be less effort to fix earth than to move the entire species to another planet
>>2164991859 minute long hardcore spider x kiri sex scene confirmed
>>216490134
>>216499309Zootopia?
because it was never good, successful marketing campaigns from twenty years ago don't always hit the same now
>>216489427The time between the first film and the second was so fucking long the world moved on.
Cameron is obviously an anti-human freak who just wants everyone else to die off because plastic waste is making his million dollar underwater excursions le unwholesome. You could get away with that shit in 2010 but national sentiment is changing
>>216492652imagine being a Colonel on a alien planet with your own aerial armada and you have the sickest ride known to man and youre just fucking SITTING THERE drinking coffee while you blast alien scum. Based as fuck. Get you some blue TANG while you're at it hehe.
>>216500639people in 2010 were literally offing themselves because they couldn't be a blue cutie on a alien planet. Man culture was weird af back then. I'm glad we are based now.
>>216499206Siggy is living out her fantasy of being a cougar with a tall shota
>>216494250Frontiers of Pandora is kino
Balding woman
>>216502074Good thing it will make five times that
>>216490290>>216490332I appreciate all the nip slips they sneaked in.
>>216489427>>Avatar is Cine-Glitter for Idiots>>Avatar is Cine-Glitter for Idiots>>Avatar is Cine-Glitter for Idiots
>>216502189Where?
>>216489427Blue niggers in space isn’t that interesting. I thought the first one was awful and never watched it or the sequels again
>>216489427The writing is shit.Its great to watch, then you have to forget it immediately.
>"alien" race>look exactly like humans but taller and bluethe premise was dumb from the start
>>216502227This guy made promises he couldn't keep with the Fable games, now he's shitting on Avatar?
Its been the same movie 3 fucking times lol
>>216493675>Humans are supposedly the bad guys for fighting for their species survival and somehow can't win a war with said savages despite having FUCKING SPACE TRAVELDidn't understand the setting award It takes six years to send a ship from Earth to PandoraNa'vi have adapted to live in a environment that's hostile to humans and therefore have a home field advantage. Like they're taller and can shoot arrows with much more force than a human can. Hell's Gate was a mining facility and lacked the resources for a prolonged war. They only had two planes for their raid on the Omatikaya and when those went down that was it. Earth bombers don't work well on Pandora because the magnetic field screws with their navigation. Also they WERE close to winning until Eywa intervened at the last minute. Retard.
What would happen if these lil guys showed up in Avatar
>>216502948They look like cats
>>216503302they're not though
>>216503644
>>216503669was it RAPE?????????ß
>>216489427
>>216503669Looks like a game cutscene.Come to think of it, there was a game, is it from the game's cutscene or is that how the movies look?
>>216503669Which PS2 game is that from?
>>216503830>>216503840LMAO, fucking BURNUnc console graphics
>>216489980Lmao nice bait, I laughed
>>216489427Maybe it has to do with the decade long gap between movies
I look forward to spending the holidays following boxofficemojo and rotten tomatoes. This movie will flop in the box office, it'll flop critically and with audiences.
>>216489427The alien bitches are ugly
>>216503852Zoomies olay Fortnite some of the shittiest graphics in modern gaming only good thing are sexy skins and zoomies hate objectifying women
>>21648942720 years between installments and only tinfoil junkies believe in climate change
Remember the robust network?
>>216505313Explain, expand, elaborate.
>>216492999
>>216505454Years ago there were memes about people being "robust" instead of "based" when they liked Avatar
>>216505442Why is Varang so lewd?
>>216505496thx for explain <3
>>216505500She is a pussy in heat.
>>216502954>implyingThat's not Peter Molyneux that's Hideki Kamiya you moron.
>>216502954Is that Hideki Molyneux?
>>216505556VINAC
>>216505572>>216505637Hideki Kamiya invented this thing called "camera"
>>216505654And I invented Extreme Hyper-Gooning (89% fatality rate) but you don't see me bragging about it
HELLO??????????
>>216506037Hello, hello!
>>216506123was it RAPE???????
>>216506134Was what rape?
>>216506134I'm afraid that it was, indeed, rape.
>>216506171see>>216506237
>>216495607>>abo-inspired villainess is obsessed with fire, machinery fumes and huffing gas>based cameronKek she also forces white guys (Jake and Quidditch) to give her the drugs
I wish Pandora was real
I wish Poopdora was real
>>216505654>mixing up Hidetaka Howard with La creatividadsmhbaka
James Cameron is a retarded boomer cuckold
>>216506712This is correct, and so are his """""""fans""""""""""
>>216506712>>216506732>everyone's stupid but me
>kill off the kid with the least screentime and dialogueVery bold jimmy
>>216506884I want Netty back
>>216504576Offensive and incorrect. Neytiri, Varang, Ronal, Ikeyni, Mo'at, Kiri, Grace (Avatar), Z-Dog are all beautiful.
>>216504576Inoffensive and correct.
Is there a Pajeet equivalent for Avatar?
back in 2009 it looked like Avatar might legitimately be the next Star Wars tier thing because JAMES CAMERON and look at all that worldbuilding and everything is 3D now, this is gonna be the future!so everyone felt like we're entering some new era of scifi cinema entertainmentof course that bubble burst quicklly and all we're left with is an ok, not great, scifi adventure movie and as we're going to see Avatar 2 and 3 we're really just paying to try and relive the excitement we felt in 2009 when the first one came out with all the apparent promise. we're chasing the dragon, but it'll never feel the same way again.
>>216506884Killing the one we love would have been predicatable, remember The Suicide Squad by James Gunn?
>>216507223>Is there a Pajeet equivalent for Avatar?It's called Avatar 2 and Avatar 3
>>216493597Hobbits have the gift of Ilúvatar, they're definitely human.
>>216495085>it does a good job of making you feel like a Na'viSee, that right there is a problem since I don't want to play as a stinking savage.
>>216507190What about Saeyla?!?
>>216507190What about Syria?!?
>>216491471>The compulsion to endlessly assert that it has no cultural impact is itself a form of cultural impactNo one says that outside 4chan though. Outside 4chan it just doesn't get talked about very much.
>>216491764>Einstein-ium>berkley-iumChemistry is so cringe.
>>216489427You won't be laughin' when Avatar 3 kicks ass at the box office
>>216500852I read those articles too, but is there any evidence it really happened?Any obituaries? Any photos? Any social media posts?
ZEROCULTURALIMPACT
>>216508502TWOBILLIES
>>216508502>>2165085873 YEARS
>>216508502Someone please explain cultural impact to me
>>216508721>trying to explain cultural impact to an AvatardLMAOOOOOOO
>>216508754Just don't see the phrase anywhere except these threads
>>216495533>So the first one is about injunsNot everything revolves around american culture, for the entire world the first tribe was clearly african, CCH Pounder looks and sounds 100% black (Zoe Saldana doesn't feel especially injun either)
>>216507646I did a quick Google search on this 'Saeyla' to jog my memory. And yes. With curves and midriff to die for, she's in the list of beautiful Na'vi women. Rest assured, anon.
>>216507646>>216509190Zamn, we've been scammed!https://www.instagram.com/p/DRQkUt-EgHZ/
>>216489427Because it was nothing more than James Cameron's tech boner the whole time with a routine dull plot
>>216509379Where did they find those CG models of Ikeyni and Saeyla.Can't wait for her to return in avatar 3 (as more different na'vi characters) btw
First Avatar was a pretty good movie creative wise and the CGI was good for the day, decent by todays standards. Should have left it at 1.I think they overestimated the demand for such movies particularly when they could have done something else, here's another planet of the same alien, here's some other alien or something. Nope and here we are.Really if hollywood wants my opinions on that beyond that they can pay me.
>>216509584>I think they overestimated the demand for such movies, the sequel only became the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time so this shows no one cares and the studio fucked upInterdasting
It was always shit
>>216509677>It was always shitOnly good post itt
>1st le deforestation propaganda>2nd le anti whaling propagandawhats jim gonna be seething about this time?
>>216491208one of the other media corps hiring shills to try and swing movie revenue their way.this shit is only going to get worse as the last few media giants merge.
>>216509747Refugees.
>>216509805Avatardcope is REAL
quota man should come back with a bionic arm.theres more milions to be made and quotas to be completed
>>216509874Way ahead of you
>>216509874What PS2 game is that from?
>>216509942Final Fantasy X, that's Sin, the final boss
>>216509942shmaloogle lands 3
>>216510016I really don't understand why people fawn over the visuals in Avatar
>>216503069blue peoplepink lung
>>216510031This. The background isn't even in focus lol
>>216510031it has some good shots now and again. but they cut so many corners all the time the overall product is quite lacking desu
>>216510065>that twinkuwu
>>216506500may as well bewe dont even have a moonbase, let alone the tech to get to another star
>>216510097>we dont even have a moonbaseGermany does have a moon base.
>>216510208what do they eat?
>>216510359>what do they eat?Poop
>>216510094Looks like a Dreamcast game honestly
>>216510094This is what Brazil id trying to do to the amazon and you're laughing
>>216510624
>>216510813Yeah I played Abe's Odyssey too unc
>>216510829
built for human cock
>>216489980How many memorable scenes can you recall from Avatar? How many of those are not from the first movie?
>>216510865I think this was a cutscene in Starcraft Broodwar?
Ikeynibros...Tarsembros...we fucking won!
>>216511366Why is it so grainy
>>216511444because it's a blown up low res screenshot from a compressed to hell trailer
>>216511524thx for explain
>>216511034How many memorable scenes from LOTR?
>>216511034From Way of Water specifically, Quarich crushing his old skull is pretty memorable. Him getting freaked out by Neytiri's arrows because they were what killed him happens in two separate scenes and I remember both times. Recombinant Quarich was the most interesting character IMO
>>216511553are you retarded
>>216511615>Him getting freaked out by Neytiri's arrows because they were what killed himWow! How iconic!
>>216511620only on sundays
>>216511631What a completely pointless conversation.
>>216489427Whi fucking cares? The movies are fulfilling their true purpose of Cameron dethroning Spielberg as the most successful director of all time. That’s all that matters. Once Cameron secures his goal, the Avatar franchise will die.
>>216510829lol poser came out of the closet with the psx reffie
>>216511631These scenes are memorable because they all tap into the same thing: recom-Quarich being reminded of the fact that the original Quarich is dead and that he's not that person. You look at a scene like him bonding with the ikran or him having shootouts and knifefights, and that fear isn't there. His fear comes from the dread of recognizing that colonel Miles Quarich IS DEAD and whatever the hell he is, he's not colonel Miles Quarich.Look to the last scene where Quarich is afraid: when Neytiri threatens to kill Spider. Neytiri, the person who killed Miles Quarich. The same threat. Spider, aka Miles, carries botht he colonel's seed and name, so it's as if Neytiri is going to kill him all over again by killing Spider.I don't know, I liked it.
>>216511660What a creepy comment. Fuck off, rapist.
>>216511253
Are they going to bring back Kiri's mom through her stored memories?
>>216511828>Somehow....Quarich returned
>>216511886Remember Quarich? He's back... in smurf form.
>>216511901LOL
>>216510702Lol if only. They just chopp down the rainforest and turn it into a wasteland.
Movie about to come out and thread about to die... says it all about the nonexistent hype for this turd.
>>216514393Avatar will do exceedingly well in India. Again.
>>216489427It was stupid to begin with.
>>216514553Why do you hate Avatar so much?
>gets mogged by evil cat lady
>>216514588>20 years of potential wasted on blue space cat hippies
>>216514647see>>216514639
i just liek the robots
>>216514647Same with Danny Boyle wasting time on jeet romcoms.
I'm glad Cameron is here to tell us again that war bad and ecology good. Truly it changed the world...
>>216514688But Slumdog Millionaire is his best movie?
>>216514984Trainspotting is his best movie.
