Is it just me, or is Vol 2 way more boring than Vol 1?
Its not you 1 had the best fights 2 had barely anything 2 was more backstory stuff so it makes sense
Yeah 2 is shit but they're both barely even movies, just bunch of "cool" scenes and music videos slapped together.
>>216490592Part 2 is better if you have higher attention span, it has better dialogue and more memorable moments
The whole thing kind of sucks. Only tarantino can make action boring.
>>216490592The whole thing is shit.
>>216490592Vol 2 has its moments, but yeah, it was a huge letdown after the comfy live-action anime of Vol 1. A much more typical Tarantino “people sit around bullshitting for fifteen minutes in Southern California, and then someone is brutally killed and/or maimed” kind of thing.
>>216490592Uma fighting off 40+ guys armed with swords was the most retarded thing I ever saw.
>>216490592>people still getting filtered by Vol.2kek this board never changes.
>>216490592Yeah, thats why she kills Bill, he talks way too much. Fuck Emilio and all the boring bullshit
>>216490884And there's no sound in space during Star Wars what the fuck are you talking about? Do you have autism?
>>216490522 has the more interesting villains: Bill, Budd, Elle. 1 is action with nothing behind it since O Ren and the black girl are almost nobodies in the story compared to the other characters. We don't know anything about their relationship with Bill or The Bride, they just exist to be killed.
The first movie, pretend they're the same movie all you want, was obviously more of a cultural event at the time for good reason. The second movie juggles too many balls and does not cash in on what the first one so popular.
>>216490926Budd, I’ll grant you, but Elle is one note (“I hate Beatrix because I’m jealous, grrr”), and for all his theatrics, Bill is just some asshole who got butthurt that something that he believed belonged to him was taken away.
>>216491030>Bill is just some asshole who got butthurt that something that he believed belonged to him was taken away.right...that's the point. This is Chanbara shit anon.
>>216490592Its not just you. I skip Vol 2 now.
>>216490592Vol. 2 is better because of over the top prideful, disrespectful, and evil Elle Driver getting what she deserves in this scene.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJXnWkV0dcU
>>216490592Vol 2 had more going on, Vol 1 gave a lot of screentime to O'Ren and it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense when you think about it. What makes O'Ren more important than everyone else? Nothing really.
>>216492119Because O'ren mirrors The Bride, she's a foil. Jesus Christ "media literacy" really isn't a meme, this country really is this stupid now
>>216490592It is. Every film by Tarantino (I haven't seen Jackie Brown though) is baggy and needs trimming except for Kill Bill 1. It doesn't have much substance, but the pacing is immaculate. Vol 2 has a lot of great individual scenes, but it's baggy and uneven on the whole.
Pretty much everyone in this thread is actually mentally retarded and they don't know it. This thread reeks of underage horseshit takes and bad opinions. Kill Bill is one singular experience the whole way through, there is no 1 or 2 truly. It's like saying you like the first half of a movie better than the second half. And even then, if we're watching this movie retard style, 2 is still the better movie. I can't say a single bad thing about Kill Bill as a movie experience, and I think a lot of Tarantino's work is just fine.
>>216492323>I haven't seen his best film
>>216492348Fucking thank you, someone with sense.
>>2164905922 has more SOVL + less ripoff factor. Carradine's finest hour which he promptly undid with a bizarre CoD.
Kill Bill feels more unique for a Tarantino movie. Kill Bill 2 is basically a typical Tarantino flick.
>>216492357I know, a lot of people say the same thing, I just haven't mustered up the motivation, since Tarantino has let me down so many times before.
>>216492439He's on the "unique" end of the spectrum for movies, how has any of his work let you down? None of his films have been bad, at the very least they are interesting.
>>216492348>It's like saying you like the first half of a movie better than the second half.But that's a completely legit opinion though. Frozen is a good example of a film that peaks in the first act, but gets worse the further into it you get. I've even heard some deranged people say they dislike the third act of The Dark Knight.
>>216490921>nooo!!! you have to like girlboss slop!!!!Fuck off, eunuch.
>>216492498It's because he's considered by many as one of the greats, but every film he makes leaves me cold. The only truly bad film I've seen from him is Death Proof, but there's not a single film of his which I love. His films are decently entertaining to me, but ultimately hollow and somewhat pathological. He's clearly a gifted filmmaker, but he's immature and deranged, and that shines through in his output. In my eyes, he never lived up to his potential. The foot fetish thing alone proves my point. Whatever kink he has is no concern of mine, but a mature director would have better judgement than to insert his fetish into every single film he makes.
>>216492595Zoomer faggot, the movie came out in the 90s, stop framing everything by your terminally online nonsense. It's his best movie, seethe more about it and shid your diaper.
>>216492606Honestly him bring deranged and what I like about the work. You can tell what a Tarantino movie IS, and you can't say that for a lot of other directors.
>>216492741*is
>>216492741I should probably specify what I mean by deranged. I don't object to his love of explicit violence. It's more that he's clearly a self-hating white man that wishes he was black and constantly fellates Jews any opportunity he gets. I'm not saying evey director should be William Luther Pierce or anything; Frank Darabont makes very left-leaning films, but they're not pathological like Tarantino's films. The man clearly has some identity issues, and it's been showing ever since Kill Bill Vol 1.>Kill Bill and Death ProofRevenge porn for women>DjangoRevenge porn for blacks>Basterds and OUATIHRevenge porn for Jews.OUATIH really shows how Tarantino's mind works>Bruce Lee was really rough with Hollywood stuntmen. Wouldn't it be nice if a Hollywood stuntman beat up Bruce Lee instead?>The Manson family murders were horrible. Wouldn't it be nice to show the Manson family violently murdered by Hollywood people instead of how it really happened?It's like a nine year old writing a self-insert story over and over again about beating up his older brother, except he does it for groups he sees himself as inferior to. If it still works for you, that's alright by me, but it just comes across as really immature and empty to me.
>>216492990>he's just a polfaggot oh ok, would have just been easier to tell me that. (you).
>>216492990>Revenge porn for women>Kill Bill That doesn't even make sense. Most of the vipers were also women. The film is actually rather conservative with all its motherhood themes.
>>216493008Am I wrong though?>>216493073>The film is actually rather conservativeGTFO. Not that I am a conservative, but to label is as such is a stretch to say the least.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZkjKML2EowCan you watch this and then seriously tell me there's nothing pathological about it?
>>216493348Yeah, you are wrong. You seemingly have no idea what Kill Bill is about
>>216493348Retard, he wasn't saying it's politically conservative, he's using the term to mean restraint.
>>216493397Alright, what am I missing? Mind you, I still like the film, since it's really well-made, I just think it's shallow at best.
Vol 2 is the most heart that Tarantino has ever shown, so it gets props from me. The final scene between her and Bill is legit beautiful. Sorry if you action fags can't see it>how do I look?>you look ready
>>216493455It's an homage to the Japanese samurai pulp movies he grew up watching and the 70s action movies he was fond of as a kid. The Bride is a sex reversal role for the chanbara hero.
>>216490592People like to act snooty about preferring the second, more leisurely and talky half, like it wasn’t originally supposed to end with a huge fight with Beatrix wearing her wedding dress, only they ran out of money. I like both parts, but there’s a jarring change of pace and it would arguably benefit from the chapters being reordered to counteract it
>>216493469Sure, that moment is nice, but it's at the end of a LOOOOOOONG scene of David Carradine talking about bees and Superman. It's just indulgent and tedious.
>>216490592All the Budd scenes are a piece of shit if that's what you are asking for, the ending is mehh too.
>>216493517So? The dialogue is kino, I could listen to it all day
>>216493488Everyone knows that. So what? How does that change the fact that Tarantino was very explicit about Kill Bill being a feminist film meant to empower women, and that it's a patholoical film which paints a very unflattering picture of male sexuality?
>>216490592I think they both suck. I’m not a contrarian, I just genuinely never got the hype. She looks cool in the yellow jumpsuit tho, I’ll give them that
>>216493571Not me. Tarantino can't write dialogue for shit. All his characters sound the same.>I don't tip.>le Royale with cheese.Peak reddit.
>>216490592Everything Pei Mei is kino extraordinaleEverything with Bill and the daughter drags a little
>>216493589It's feminist sure, but it's not a "revenge porn" against men, like you framed it.
>>216493589>and that it's a patholoical film which paints a very unflattering picture of male sexuality?lol found the incel.
>>216490592>Is it just me, or is Vol 2 way more boring than Vol 1?It is, the pacing and failed 'high cinema' aspirations makes it a slog. It's like Tarantino apologising for going nuts in the first movie.This 'whole affair' is dumb, a 4-hour movie is just playing your 2 DVD set back to back.A much humbler, wiser Tarantino would trim a bit of fat of Vol.1 and a LOT of loafs of fat of Vol.2 into a single manageable 3-hour cut.
It was meant to be one film
the stuff with Bud is my favorite part of both movies but it kind of falls off after that
I'm curious, does anyone know the original box office of 1 vs 2?
Part 1 works better because there's a lot of mystery. It seems like these people have some very interesting and complicated relationships that led to the wedding massacre. Can't wait to learn more about that in part 2. And then we really don't.
>>216493698>"revenge porn" against menFirst of all, the film is literally called Kill Bill, with Bill being her former lover. The revenge theme is in the damn title. But furthermore, that scene I posted where Gogo "penetrates" a guy because he wants to penetrate her pretty much speaks for itself, but there's of course also Buck who's here to fuck and suck. I don't really object to Buck being in the film, since there's something darkly comedic about the whole thing, but his scenes are pretty much a rape revenge exploitation film in miniature. How does he fit into the vision of Kill Bill as a samurai homage? Pathological filmmaking.
>>216493961>How does he fit into the vision of Kill Bill as a samurai homage?it's an homage to more than just that genre
>>216494070Sure, but that's part of the reason I call Tarantino immature as well. He really struggles to make cohesive films with focus. But that wasn't really my main point. My main point was that Kill Bill is indeed laden with rape revenge themes. I'm not saying this makes it a bad film by itself, but to say there is nothing pathological about it is just naive.
It ruined my immersion when she didn't kill any children in the movieShe should stabbed the niglet at the beginning and sliced that gook kid's fucking head off
