>dude what if the villain evil clown that preys on little kids like had a sad backstory to humanise his reasoningWHY THE FUCK IS THIS SUCH A COMMON THEME IN WRITING NOW???
uhh no
You're literally, unironically retarded. Please kill yourself.
>>216492713>>216492720You seem really upset any actual rebuttal or are you just going to throw around mean words because you know I'm right?
>>216492644This is why I disregard the woke right.
>intergalactic interdimensional being>gets stuck in fucking maine
>>216492644>>dude what if the villain evil clown that preys on little kids like had a sad backstory to humanise his reasoningWhat sad backstory?
>>216492761The historical person dressed as Pennywise the clown and the inhuman entity using his appearance are not the same, they don't share a backstory
>>216492910Thanks I never watched the show, read the books or saw the movies. It makes sense.
>>216492886>Guy comes to Derry with his daughter and their 'Pennywise the Dancing Clown' act>Drinker, but genuinely loves kids>IT lures him into the woods, kills him and uses the Pennywise guise to get closer to children.>Said daughter goes crazy, uses her own clown guise (Periwinkle) to cause clown sightings in Derry in the hopes of luring IT out>She gets Deadlighted for her troubles
>black people are asking for rights, we must unleash IT onto America!
>>216492644that guy isn't the entity though
>>216492644I thought he was a giant space spider
>>216493048>>IT lures him into the woods, kills him and uses the Pennywise guise to get closer to children.How exactly is that a sad story that humanises it? Are you media illiterate?
>>216493048That sounds more like the story of how IT got its clown form rather than a sad backstory for IT.
>>216493048>DeadlightedWhat the game?
>Joe Collins/Dandelo will be written as the IT universe's equivalent of Roy Jay
>>216493048>her own clown guise (Periwinkle)Post it
>>216492644it's just to explain the monster taking his shape, it's not sad (well I guess sad for Periwinkle), but it's more disturbing>>216493093genuinely retarded but then again the gov was experimenting on people and the threat of nukes, humanity is so stupid
>>216492886It's absurd how these cunts can't make a single scene without making it ridiculously woke.
>>216492886What the fuck is this?
>>216492886What' the fuck kind of form is IT taking right here? Bald monk?
>>216492886>Well I think of Jesus as being like a chestburster alien.
it's a reflection of the soi abyss
>>216493048Is the sad backstory in the room with us now?
>>216492644Name a single adult white male character in this show that is a decent person.
>>216493539The dead wingmanThe dead kids.The dead mafia probably.
>>216493048>periwinkle???am i missing something, or were the writers incapable of following the pennywise template of the name being a joke?
>>216493674what's the pennywise joke?
>>216493794penny wise, pound foolish. it's a traditional clown name, they were often puns or a play on words of some sort
>>216493794Nta but "Penny wise, pound foolish." Means getting too focused on the details while ignoring the bigger picture
>>216492644People said>we like relatable villains!So bigwig studios created villains and tried making them relatable after the fact, when it should actually be the other way around to be more effective (create relatable motives, then make villain around those motives)
>>216492886You were all here to witness the retardening of Hollywood
>>216493575>Name a single adult>the dead kidsAre you fucking retarded?
>>216492644IT is older than you are, broccoli head.
>>216493904The kids in SK stories are adults you media illiterate nigger.
>>216493921Well duh. IT is like millions of years old dude
>>216494000>no it's totally fine for him to write about child orgies, metaphorically they're adults
>>216494027What if IT saw a T-Rex? Could it turn into something to scare a dinosaur and eat it?
>>216494050Correct. Now go back.
>>216494079why not just accept that you like child sex scenes?
>>216493337>>216493875>erm actually you cant comment on how white people even interacted with natives in a negative way or it's woke
>>216494113white people didn't interact with natives in a particularly negative way. the whole point of american thanksgiving is to celebrate the cooperative relationship between the exact type of person IT is caricaturing here and the local tribes
>>216493337I wouldn't even mind that if they actually managed to make some of the scenes scary but they just fucking can't. Maybe the CGI is kinda shit. Animations happen to fast or something, my brain just parses them as a videogame or something. His appearance in the latest episode with all the burning niggers was OK but nothing scary either. At least it wasn't comically bad.
>>216493278Honk honk
>>216493427Protestant preacher of some sort
>>216494088Why don't you admit you lack media literacy?>>216494201So log off.
>>216494327please stop raping the child-shaped """adults"""
How does he have a backstory?He's not a human wtf the lore is fucked lol
>>216492886i fr thought this was lotr ngl iono bout yall but i aint never seen that
>>216492644wtf i love nephilim now i need some DMT to suck em off NOW
>>216493337the monster uses people's fears against them. it took the form of a white christian priest because that's what that native american woman was afraid of
>>216494056It is implied that this is how It survived for millions of years
>>216494491was she retarded
>>216494502are you, colonizer?
>>216494614what records do you have on hand to suggest that a native american woman in maine at this time period would have any reason to fear a white christian priest?
>>216492644IT already has had an established backstory.
>>216494636Common sense you redditoid.
>>216493427It is impossible to make something about indians without also including their losing battle against Europeans. It must always happen post European contact.
>>216493539Name a single adult white male that is a decent person in real life
>>216494713please describe what makes it common sense. i clearly lack whatever sense is needed. what kind of interactions would a native american of this time and place have had with white christians that would cause them to become her greatest fear, rather than, say, some devil figure in her mythology or just a pack of hungry wolves
>>216494347What if the child-shaped adult consents?
So every season will have teenagers as protagonists? I have Stranger Things fatigue.
>>216494293I saw a webm of a girl with that same facepaint and a nice fluffy bush. No idea it was from this show.
>>216494722Donald Trump.
>>216492644Terrific bait, sireI had to reply in aweplease be bait
Was anyone really just dying to know where the monster formerly known as It got the Pennywise disguise?
>>216494802nobody born rich is decent
>>216494636>>216494752Would have been better if it was the Wendigo that haunts Pet Sematary.
>>216494833actually yea i was. also it made sense plotwise
>>216494925the world would be better if we threw your kind into a gulag
>>216494752>what kind of interactions would a native american of this time and place have had with white christians that would cause them to become her greatest fearAre you serious?>>216493539PaulyAlso, you're not getting the theme of IT.
>>216494952yes, i am serious, please list some actual things that happened
>>216493101IT was a giant space spider. This isn't IT, it's a regular clown who was murdered and impersonated by IT.
>>216494636It as a entity, is quite flawed.He's trying to adapt to see what would instill fear in his victims. Just like with Pennywise, he probably saw a colonizer with that appearance and shapeshifted.It doesn't have to make perfect sense when It is literally doing a "trial and error" method
>>216493048hol' up, you saying the clown's father was some kinda drinker, and a fiend?
>>216494938you must be hollow inside if you did not enjoy pennywise's show. pretty well done clowning for a small tv show segment
>>216495039i'm not watching this cash grab, lmao, i have standards
>>216493539pickle man
>>216495024do you think that's what the writers were thinking when they wrote that scene?
>>216492886Goosebumps tier
>Including the majestic moose.
>>216495102>look, just keep stacking fog effects until it's not so obvious
>>216495067neither of us have a way to know for certainwhat we do have, is a story about an alien trying to learn ways on how to lure kids into his mouth
>>216495132truly the barrier between the internal life of one man and another is wholly impermeable, and yet, i think, perhaps, i might just have a pretty good inkling on this one
>>216495122>>look, just keep stacking fog effects until it's not so obviousbased
>>216492886KEK. They put more chicks in it and made it lame and gay.
>>216495158if you're implying "white man bad", yes, you might be correctin fact this whole show is "black peepo good, white man raycist", but it make sense since the source material was this way as wellexcept for the klans uniform
>>216492644>IT murdered an innocent clown and assumed his form to lure children and eat themI don't follow, OP.
>>216495102we have tuunbaq at home:
>>216492886Muschietti's jumpscares and monster designs are so lame, always with the long limbed tall monster with the distorted face jumping to the camera, like get new visuals faggotMama was such a shit movie
>>216495024>He's trying to adapt to see what would instill fear in his victims.lol no. The victim always projects/has their fear instantly reflected on It.
>>216495102What the hell kind of name is "Gallo"? That drops its scariness points by 50%
>>216495600giallo is very scary
>>216495358as i said, quite flawed, or he would've been beaten during the chapter 2 cycle
>>216492644The sad backstory is for the clown that It eats and steals his form. It is still pure evil.
>>216495600>What the hell kind of name is "Gal-o"?
>>216494491A squaw would be infinitely more afraid of other tribes than a Christian priest.
>>216492886do white people even deserve to be protected by these brave stewards of the land?
>>216492644>The cosmic entity was a relentless blood thirsty asshole>Even the dude that wore the clown costume was also an assholeSorry OP, I dont follow. Where is this sad backstory?
>>216496058Before white man come, the People live in harmony with space spider.
>>216492886WHat is this goofy shit? Stranger things?
>>216492934See>>216492720
>>216492886The way to save Hollywood is:1. Stop casting women as warriors in the plot (exceptions are mothers fighting like hell for their children like Sarah Connor, or if the movie use them as fanservice like Angelina Jolie Lara Croft)2. Make majority of the cast White with males showing strenght, bravery and determination3. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD enough with CGI, even if you need to hire fucking Mike Matei and AVGN, just PLEASE for the love of god use actual props, costumes, mechatronics and especially the actual real locations as your set . There is nothing more fake than CGI monsters on CGI forest. Producers are so fucking lazy, they would rather film everything in one studio with ZERO make up artists. Just move your ass to actual forest and hire people to make decent lighting, sound and make up on your actors instead literally ever only hiring CGI guy, director, the actors.and borrowing cheap costumes from temuUntil then, Netflix deserve to kill Hollywood because they are already best at making slop for streaming. If theres no quality then why not let them buy everyhing,
>>216494966Not him and I have no idea but do you think white people are saints that never did anything wrong in history? You're overcorrecting, anon.
the same people who have been holding onto the same grudge for over 2000 years, want you to forgive them for all the truly horrific things they have been doing for those 2000 years.
>>216494142>white people didn't interact with natives in a particularly negative wayYou cannot be a real person
>>216496475 where did he make that claim? wheres your list of real historic events bro? go ask the chatbot
>>216496765Have you heard about boarding schools?
>>216496765I didn't say he made any claims. I literally asked a clarifying question.
>>216496765probably because indian women were taken to missions where priests often did ...indecent things to them
>>216492644What you dumbass said doesnt even makes sense because he was killed and his body possessed by a alien anyway.
lowest IQ board
wait were people being serious when they don't know that Pennywise takes different forms?
>>216494833its not really a surf dracula though, hes been killing since the series started
>>216492886not even gonna pirate this shit
>>216492886Zendaya looks really good in this
>>216492910Its really this simple.
>>216494722adolf hitler
>>216492781...because it doesn't exist?
>>216496475Who cares? I do not carry the sins of my race, racist.
>>216492886this is what the jesuits really did to Native Folk btw
It's so shitty and weird that Pennywise the Dancing Clown, the big "IT", has been an alcoholic loser this whole fucking time. I'm meant to care about his dead wife, like that's a valid reason for him using the alien stones to become a super-being? No, I don't care. I don't care about him now. I don't care about the priest who attacked the native indians. I don't care about any of the other people who came into contact with those black alien tech stones. They're corrupt but they're ultimately traitors to humans. Fuck aliens.
>>216496363No. You’re going to deal with this retardation on a wide scale and it’s NEVER going to end.
Reminder that the best It adaptation is a Doom mod
>>216492886Why the fuck is everything so over the top and cheap looking at the same time? You could theoretically do some really cool and even creepy visuals with something like this but they can't help themselves from going full CGI cosmic whirlwind shitstorm clusterfuck with it. It's pure excess.
>>216492644>WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SUCH A COMMON THEME IN WRITING NOW???They are really scraping the bottom of established IPs now. They even tried to make the puppy genociding lady from 101 Dalmatians le good and that was years agoAt this rate they'll eventually do it with hitler.
That's very anti-semitic, please delete this thread
>>216498529It's the combination of poor photography and the VFX crew not even attempting to inject some realistic physicality into the CGI characters.
>>216498389are you pretending to be retarded
>>216492934KEK
>>216494502No, probably pretty smart.
>>216495024No retard, IT doesn't shapeshift to try shit out, it just takes the form of whatever the person fears most. He's not making intelligent guesses, it is simply reflected back to the person based on their mind
>>216495024Insane mental gymastics cope.
>>216495210>one black character in book, has to deal with a single racist bully.>ends up being defended and accepted into white kids clubYeah the WHOLE book is just "white man bad". Fuck off back to your Maga echo chamber moron
>>216498529YOU try staying up all night looking at concepts from Hyderabad and see how fun it is. Sometimes you just go with with they give you.
>>216494833wasn't there already a scene in the first reboot movie that hinted that there was a real Pennywise before? we didn't need any more than that
>>216493337This show sucks but i honest to god wish for a fucking purge of you retards crying woke every 5 minutes. You whiny little bitch. You balless fucking cretin im BEGGING you to come up with an honest to god fucking unique thought in your goddamn sad life that isnt parroted by fox news.
>>216498662Watch the last episode dickhead. It's just some guy who's in mourning with his weird daughter. He kills some kid in the woods (and the boy's mother) then runs away from the circus. We know the alien stones are in those woods and we know it makes people bad/super powered. I wanted more explanation but this is what we got.
>>216498642It's absolutely that but I also think everything is excessive. Why is it necessary that everything be CGI? Why is it necessary for there to be a spooky whirlwind shitstorm when the girl is murdered? Why is it necessary to show a spooky monster face on the entity? Why can't some of these things be practical effects so they're easier to blend into the real world? It's all just too much and takes me right out of what could have been a good horror scene.
>>216492644Good writing. 100% good heroes and 100% bad villains suck. You should go back to reading the bible.
>>216492644I thought the clown was a psychic alien spider that fed on brains and was afraid of child orgies or something?
>>216498560they didn't give It a sad backstory lol he literally eats the clown and uses him as a disguise because kids like him, it's like the opposite of a sad backstory
>>216492644Are you retarded
>tfw “I love you, Rich.”
>>216492644Are you fucking stupid?
>>216492644Did they actually try to give a humanizing backstory to the evil edritch horror clown?
>>216498941Depends on how you write them. Everything being morally grey and trying to get you to sympathize with the villain because of some generic sob story gets old
>>216499477No, OP is just retarded. They showed the story of the actual clown Pennywise that It killed and took the form of.
>>216498835i'm sure this is still b8 but IT saw Pennywise was popular with children and killed him and uses his form. like he impersonated the dead kid
>>216499885He never uses the clown disguise to its own advantage and still acts like a creepy monster.
>>216492886Holy fuck this looks like shit.
>>216492644Never happened.
>>216492886Why running away if he is such a terrible monster?
>>216500405you got me there
>>216500619The girl running up to him is holding some space rock that weakens him or some shit. They dont even explain it, it just acts like magical kryptonite. Its also inconsistent because she so far away but in another scene he has to be standing right on top of it for it to hurt him.
>>216495663GO GO GO GO
>>216496373>Women are main consumers of hollywood entertainment>DO THESE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WILL ALIENATE OUR BIGGEST PAY PIGGIES Never change /tv/
this board gets more retarded every single year
>>216492886Ah yes, those famous native american women warriors everyone knows were a thing.
>>216493098Nobody would find that funny even in the 19th century
>>216502396Native here, women weren't even allowed at the best ceremonies because the period blood makes them impure
so the macguffin for this whole story is a dinosaur turd?cmonlove it
>>216502190women want to watch television and film with white men in it.
>>216502455>women want to watch television and film with white men in it.
>>216502520rarely do I see this level of extreme cherrypicking cope lmao.
>>216493427ben franklin
>>216502190>>Women are main consumers of hollywood entertainmentfalse premise. retarded post discarded.
>>216502433Born in Manitoba. The native women are treated like complete animals by their men (and each other). A few years back a video went viral of squaws beating another squaw to death while filming it on their phone. Around the same time another notorious trial happened where some squaw tortured her kid to death, she and her braves would do things like shoot it with bb guns. Just recently the province spent millions digging through trash dumps because a bunch of squaw bodies got dumped there. There's so many missing nate women that they have a whole industry around them.It's funny watching leftie Hollywood try to make natives look noble and turn their women into badasses in movies like the predator and this stupid show, when in reality natives are a bunch of cruel evil people who terrorize each other and have done so for hundreds of years.
>>216502520We're eraseing history
>>216494722My father. Basically every man in my family. I'm sorry you never had a dad or any positive male role models growing up, jamal.
>>216492886What is this from?
>>216494722Mf posts something like this and when asked where they from and what's their color ,they are dead silent lol
>>216492834Why is IT stuck in Maine, anyways? Is IT on the run from something worse?
We have to humanize evil people now because a lot of people look in the mirror and see one
>>216502743He crash landed on earth during the dinosaurs. I'm assuming his ship is below Derry.
>>216502614Fortunately you have replaced them with real Indians
>>216502771Oh. Interesting, I guess he isn't an engineer if he hasn't learned how to fix it by now, assuming he even wants to go home, that is.
>>216502614>tfw I just want to follow my ancestors and find a cute one to save from that horrible life like they did when they first arrived in canada from france
>>216492886>Make sure to get a close up of the demon baby next to the cross so they know Christians are the real evil
>>216502667Its 2025, people dont want to watch white men anymore
>>216502937Hi where are you from?
how am i supposed to believe the actual concept of evil crash landed on earth and eats people,k and the concept of good is a space turtle
>>216502449Better then a turtle turd.Wait a minute.....
>>216502968The Turtle is book-only.>yeah, but what about this turtle easter egg! look at the bracelet!Is the Turtle DOING anything?
>>216502984i don't pay attention tot hese threads and didn't read the bookis that actually the good energy turtle turd
>>216502968The more entertaining thing to me is that the turtle inexplicably dies when they're adults, but it's fine because God exists so they never needed him anyway King was on his coke binge when he wrote it, it shows, it's utter nonsense and would have been forgotten without the clown schtickIt just turns into a wolf man at one point, it's honestly incredibly sillyPeople like the clown shit and the clown shit only
>>216502851All the cute ones got turned into Metis in the 1800s.
>IT is a pregnant spider demon thing>injusn worship a spider grandmotherWriters of Derry are culturally illiterate, those injuns should be worshipping Pennywise
>>216503581what is with all the premium tv shows making injuns a plot pointdexter new bloodtrue detective jodie foster seasonjackass 3d
>>216503605they are the "I" in BIPOC
>>216503605Probably some Screen Actors Guild rule about including x% of natives or some shit.
They broke canon to give him a lame ass backstory. Even in the new movies he was already a clown in the 1700s.
>>216495250Good show i love jared
>>216492886Is this from stranger things?
WHAT??I thought he was some alien cosmic abomination?
>>216492644>stupid established franchise exists >hollyweird needs to shoehorn some zoomers into it >in order to make millionsthat’s the whole motivation right there. sufficiently established IP? check. sufficiently young zoomer cast? check.here comes the money.
>>216492644This show has a lot of retarded changes to IT, but I was actually OK with the whole Robert Gray bit. The original implied that there was an actual clown at some point, but never discussed why IT took a liking to using his appearance. Implying that IT clearly understood fear so it could become whatever scared a person, but since it lacked any understanding of how to appeal to children (either to lure them or to contrast the appeal of the clown with IT's scares to make the scares scarier) it simply latched on to the appearance of a guy that kids seemed to like makes enough sense without going into Native American guardians nonsense
>>216492886Depicting christ like this is enough for me to consider bringing a rifle to Netflix offices.
>>216494789>saw a webm of a girl with that same facepaint and a nice fluffy bushIs this your card?
>>216492644But he has. Pennywise in reality is Marry Poppins. She was handling kids and feeding on their laughter. But one day she was sent to Israel and was babysiting jews. And this is when she lost it and became a monster.
>>216505100You won't do shit, jew-lover.
>>216492644Jews want you to sympathize with the thing or people who are actually only their for your demise. Same shit in the Ring of Power with the orc woman and orc child. Fucking gay.
>>216492644>humanise his reasoningHow?
>>216492886Even the savage native Americans knew to keep women at home. Lmao what is with this faggoted take on female warriors. Prey was ruined because of that premise
>>216498275Yes.The lefty kikefags just cross out the punchline to our jokes and critiques, as they squaqk out "no u".
>>216492886HOLY SHITIT'S THE SLENDERMAN AND HE'S MOLESTING NATIVE AMERICAN WOMEN
>>216505100PREPARE TO MEET THY JEW GOD
>>216502417I found it funny
>>216492644>why would jews try to make you sympathetic to child predators...anon really, really.think.
>>216494142>pretend our jew is your god like we're all trannies or dieIdk seems pretty horrifying it's an alien empire of trannies
>>216505102Is this the same one with the ferret?
>>216502520he wasnt even in the trailers
>>216492644This is all from the book, moron.
>>216494925Not really, in the books It used the name Bob Gray a few times and readers could assume on their own that it was probably tied to his clown disguise. Not everything needs to be autistically explained.
>>216502968>believeNigga, it's fiction. It's also similar to Lucifer's fall from Heaven, which should be an archetype already ingrained in your cultural background if you're white.
>>216502283>more non-white access to the internet just randomly coincided with the internet becoming shit
>>216506179>Not everything needs to be autistically explained.When you keep making more and more movies or tv series about something that is what use to happen. It's like the new Predator movie, now the predators have personalitites, they speak, have feelings, etc., they are no longer just killing aliens.
I hope they show more of his stinky meat pit
>>216505908ay,save it this time
>>216505051He isHowever, in the show Pennywise was also an actual person/clown. IT stole his appearance because he saw how the clown act/getup could attract children.
>>216507126HONK/HONK
>>216492644is this bait or are you retarded? both? both.
>>216492644This show’s problem is not starting with Bob and Ingrid from episode 1 and making them the main focus. Instead it lazily redid the IT movie formula by revolving around a group of kids trying to uncover the Pennywise mystery. Like what’s the point.
>>216507126She could dress like a scantily clad retard and you’d all be saying I want the retardussy
