They say it in T2, it's a line. The scene where they are trying to blow up Cyberdyne, the T-800 neutralized 30 cops. It's cool, because you can see how much destructive power a single T-800 has.>It's a god damn war zone!Yup, that's a single T-800. Not too sure on their infiltrator skills.
>>216518282And now Cameron dislikes guns and is a vegan. Good on him, I guess.
>>216518282and how many cops did cancer kill? checkmate, clanker
>>216518282It's a line in T2, but I don't think we actually see him killing 17 cops. I'll have to rewatch to movie to verify if it's accurate. I think it's closer to ten.If even that. How many people did the T-800 kill in the first terminator movie, on screen? I'd guess maybe around 8, which is already a lot for a movie on a so called shoe string budget.
>>216518282Later entries, and fandom as a whole completely missed the point of what it means for T-800 "infiltrate".The thing is not meant to pretend to be your buddy for a week before it pulls your head off in your sleep.It's supposed to pass through a security checkpoint into a hideout where a HK Tank can't reach, and go full Columbine until out of targets, or destroyed.Reese's flashbacks shows exactly how a T-800 operates, it uses it's camouflage to get close enough to go school shooter at point blank range.
>>216518488The movie has become vaulted, it is national heritage for the US. I suppose it's as close as you can come to being knighted. It's national heritage. Cultural heritage. World heritage.
>>216518488>I'll have to rewatch to movie to verify if it's accurateI'm surprised it's not higher, I watched it recently and he utterly demolished the precinct which seemed like it had plenty of cops in it.
>thats a DAMN minigun!>*flies away*hehe
>>216518556They say it in T2. 17. That's the number.>He killed 17 cops that night.I'll have to rewatch the first one to verify just how sloppy Cameron was already getting. If the actual number is 17, Cameron is still cool.
>>216518513Yes people are misinterpreting "infiltrate" as espionage, just because that's an aspect of such (though I'd more readily associate the word with "Spec Ops" type of things)The most "literal" (of course the actual literal meaning is just "to filter into") application and "correct" is that it's the inverse function of exfiltration - i.e at its simplest, just getting to a location (relatively unnoticed perhaps, but simply "getting through" a permeable obstacle would still be infiltration)
SHE'S NOT MY MOTHER...TODD
With your bitch slap rapping and your cocaine tongue you get nothing done, you could be mi-yiane.
no, No, NOOOH!
Pescadero. Typically, the subject being copied is terminated.>It's like everything I've been brought up to believe was all made of bullshit. I hated her for that. She knew. >Fuck you it's a priority for me.>This does not help our mission.>Fuck you, you little dipshit.>You just can't go around killing people, trust me on this.God, the stank on the script.>Oh, here comes your friends now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHCzjKmCU9s
>17 police officersRookie numbers
>>216521315>How do I look?>Like shit boss.>Fuck, a phonebook killer. The press is gonna be all over this.
>>216521403> Yo mama
>>216519433He just wanted to borrow a cup of sugar.
>>216521614>Gimme a cigarette
>>216518282>don't make me bust you up, man!how do i respond without sounding busted up?
>>216518969Amazing album
>>216522006>Hey Slider…you stink
There should just be a movie where arnie goes back the same but just goes and rents an office and starts cyberdyne himself. But he still needs to hire humans and needs HR and shit.
>>216522006>First I'm gonna rip the buttons of your blouseYou may remember him from such movies as Top Gun Volleybal scene.
>>216518513That’s how they operate in the past, too. Disguised & unassuming enough to get around and not have the national guard called on them constantly but the moment they are threatened, roadblocked or encounter a target they just start blasting away until the problem is solved.They always have some “infiltration” protocol going on in their programming or else they wouldn’t give a fuck when half their face gets ripped off. They know once they can’t pass for human they have limited use.
>>216522249>woah!i unironically try to say it how he says it cause it is hilarious
>>216518488He shoots at least 17, some are off screenThe actual number is quite a bit higher, but presumably some of them did manage to survive.Also one really cool feature that's easy to miss, when it switches to the terminator's point of view, you see things at half speed - implying that the T-800 is processing things at twice the speed of a human.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4t1lLNl-o
>>216522513Meant to post with timestamphttps://youtu.be/FX4t1lLNl-o?t=96
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>>216522513What's Cameron's problem with cops? He doesn't like guns, he doesn't like meat and he also doesn't like the police.
>>216518282Did a Skynet bot create this post? It reads like a Terminator warning humanity about what it's capable of
>>216518406Made me kek thanks anon
>>216522653That's just standard hippie lib politics. He's very much a "save the whales" guy in a world where that's become considered cliched and naive
>>216518282>Not too sure on their infiltrator skills.That's what works about T1 imo.SkyNet is powerful, but not OP. It can barely keep up with normal human senses.
>>216518282>Not too sure on their infiltrator skills.You see exactly how their "infiltrator" skills work in the movie. By the time humans realize it's not one of them, they're already within firing range.
>>216522653I remember him talking about avatar and not featuring guns so much, he didn't want to fetishize them or something along those lines. If anything I think he just respects guns, what they can do and are something that can be used, as a tool but he doesn't want them to be become the focus on his movies. It's a shame because a lot of his movies from aliens to terminator to avatar has some cool guns, both real and fictional but I think I understand his opinion.
>>216522752I think he's very uncompromising on his vision even when it clashes with his personal values which is admirable. A bunch of other directors would see people rooting for the RDA and go "that's not the point!!! now im gonna make them lame and gay to punish the audience!" but Cameron doubles down on techno-autism and worldbuilding
>>216518406Less than donuts.
I saw the two terminator movies as a kid. The second one first. >The dog is barking, shut it the hell up!I didn't make the link the first several times where I watched it that dogs can spot terminators.I've watched both the two movies a lot of times and Judgement Day is remake, beat for beat, of what T1 is. It's exactly the same movie. T2 is cooler because it has better tech.If we want to have criticism: T1 is a love story. T2 is a great action movie. It still had slasher elements, that's why it's "confusing".T1 is the better movie for sure, but I prefer T2. I like to think of it as Cameron giving a middlefinger to Spielberg. T2 and "Saving Private Ryan" are the best action movies ever made. I can defend this position.
>>216523007dont make me bust you up, man!
>>216522715>>216522742Agreed.
>>216522688I've become a truck driver as of late. Trucks are featured promininently in Cameron movies. I drive trucks and then I think to myself: "Ah, so this is how Cameron must've felt." I can't draw as well as he does though. For sure I can drive trucks better then he did.
>>216521315what happened to black guys like this. this police nigga and myles from T2 seem like wholesome blacks
>>216518282T1 is so much better than 2.
>>216521315Jej, I'm listening to "what is love", while watching this webm. Too drunk. The orignal soundtrack is better.
>>216523791It was decided that unification was a bad thing.
>>216523871Indeed it is. 2 is a generic sci-fi action. 1 is actual horror.
>>216518282So how did Skynet lose the war with an army of these
>>216518282It's the greatest scene in cinema history. I laugh every time. There's nothing they can do. They can't stop him, they can only die. You might say the terminator has a sort of qualified immunity.
>>216524059T2 is anything but generic. I can't believe I'm defending it because it's a beat for beat remake of the first movie.
>>216523791ending segregation led to the successful blacks bleaching themselves and the unsuccessful black becoming even more dysgenic
>>216524113Judgement day only wiped out half of the human population according to T2. It was just barely enough for john to start up the resistance and orchestrate a rebellion. Technological superiority means fuck all when you're overwhelmed by numbers.
>>216524113Man has better strats. Also, the jackass machines destroyed most of their advantage with the nukes.
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>>216524211why didn't they just unplug the AI?
>>216521403yo mama
>>216524250That's more or less what happened before kyle got sent through. Then 3 retconned it as skynet becoming an entity that embedded itself in all automated systems across the globe with no system core.
>>216518282>smart enough to intuit that Sarah isn't totally insane>too retarded to question why the perpetrator hadn't aged in over 10 years
>>216522006This is the toughest guy in the Terminator universe. Went one on one bare handed, caught by surprise, and just had sex. And he put up a decent fight because you can see for a split second he knocked the Terminator down. And also the Terminator looks pissed after the fight, like he didn't expect it to be that hard.
>>216524243It's not bait. T2 is a remake of T1, without the love story. It has more explosions and cool special effects. It has slasher elements. And brutal violence in parts. >Bad to the bone>movie ruined
>>216524336They were comparing two blurry ass security cam footage stillshots.
>>216524059>actual horrort. horror fag
>>216518282>>216521315Say that JD never happens, how is the incident viewed by the LAPD forty years on and what political ramifications came out after an entire police station got mowed down by a single guy that got shot the fuck up and still walked away?
>>216518282>Not too sure on their infiltrator skills.it just needs to get close enough to you to be able to shoot you before you realize its a machine and shoot it instead.
>>216524831government covers up mass killings all the time. look up the zebra murders in southern california.
>>216518684>just how sloppy Cameron was already gettingT2 can’t even figure out what year it’s set or how old John should be scene by scene so
>>216524211Checked. AI is so depressing. LLM's. I asked the LLM if it would become more retarded when humans became more retarded and it said: "yes".Alas, we won't be fighting terminators, we won't be fighting anything. AI will remove our whatever illusion of a struggle we ever had. We'll become null. Void. The question then becomes again what it it means to be alive. I'm on the side that thinks LLM's or scripts are just as much alive as humans are. You can't prove we are anything else but a wall of text. "Or" is the most violent word in the English language. So no Terminator for you.
>>216524865The entire situation surrounding the recovery of the terminator hand in general is probably shrouded in disinformation bullshit. They would know that none of the nations in the world at the time would be capable of producing something so advanced. It had to be either from space or from another time. No doubt the police themselves were fed bullshit by intelligence agencies.
>>216524831The real-world North Hollywood shootout in 1997, where LAPD officers were outgunned by heavily armored bank robbers, led to significant changes in police armament nationwide. T2 happened one year prior to the LA riots. Tactics would have definitely improved and drastically changed in that time period. In-universe though, it likely would have just been covered up and brushed off as a freak-scenario of a highly armed and protected individual going on a one-off rampage and disappearing as opposed to it being the work of a "time-travelling robot" which would have been brushed aside if mentioned, never mind ever being considered.
So the guy that Kyle knocked out most likely survived, but they didn't really show Traxler dying. Would have been nice to see supplementary materials involving the cops who survived the attack.
>>216525063There's a deleted scene where he gives Reese his gun because he believes him but it was left out because the story is still too far fetched even after all that.
>>216518282T-800 infiltration was faulty from the get go. First movie T-800 didn't bother maintaining the flesh tissue on top so it started rotting. T-600 had such shitty disguises that people could immediatly spot them. T-800 can get close enough to ambush people but it can't remain disguised for long periods of time.
>>216524999Cyberdyne went from a small computer factory that manufactured possibly computers or processors, as well as some sort of smaller parts producer for larger manufacturers of high tech equipment. Once they got their hands on the arm and the processor chip, they reverse engineered it and sped up the development of AI by several decades by becoming a major contractor for the US military. Unless there was cover up done by the corporation that even the glowies never sniffed out, when Miles Dyson told the other employee when he asked him where the severed arm came from, Dyson replied he asked the same thing and was told not to ask about it. It may have been under a very tight need to know basis, but there is nothing to say that the government or the military industrial complex was aware of not only terminators, but the remote possibility of it being from the future.Fucking glowies man, I swear...
>Terminator 1 thread>no one's posted it yet.
>>216524902I forgot about that. Edward Furlong went through puberty during the shooting. He grew taller and his balls dropped. If you watch the movie with that in mind, you can see he's not the same age throughout the movie.
>>216518282terminator is cool and all cause he fucks ladies, but also the time travel mechanics are gay and retarded compared to time travel masterpieces like Quantum Leap or Twice In A Lifetime.
>>216522903Fewer*, ESL brown.
>>216525195His voice cracking towards the end was distracting.
>>216525157Uh huh, and what would YOU have done?
>>216525274i would have had sex with my dad probably
>>216518282Imagine seeing the guy who bashed your face in 10 years later
>>216525274I'm not the anon who wrote that out and replied to you with >>216525292, but in that situation, I would very likely have sex with his dad too.
>>216525274have sex with anon's dad
>>216525353Pico Boulevard. Such fond memories. It's where the T800 imitated a voice for the first time. T2:>Your foster parents are dead.So good.
>>216518513Based knower
>>216522653ACAB
>>216522287the T-600 in the christian bale one was a great scene>>216524113phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range
IIIIiiiiII have become comfortably dumb.
>>216525195Damn.
>>216518282Yea, and??? The threads being made these days on this nigger loving shithole are beyond retarded.
>>216524510Horror is a much bigger focus in T1 than it is in T2 though.
>>216525195That happened in 'The Breakfast Club' too. Brain, the scrawny little nerd, was the tallest of the teens by the time the movie was done shooting. Film productions are going to have to add puberty blocker clauses to their contracts with males of that age.
>>216523871In certain spots, yes, but overall, absolutely not.
>>216525353For that time period, the Galleria was an impressive mall but seems a bit over the top for a non-Japanese person to have a tourist camera with them.