>one of the most critically acclaimed English-language television series of the century>most successful British costume drama since the 80's>its some "aristocracy is le good!" propaganda>even at their worst, you are supposed to feel sympathy for the elite>"We all have different parts to play, Matthew, and we should all be allowed to play them"Holy fuck, Im glad I was born in America, can't believe these retrograde bongs romanticize servitude
>>216531677I don't know what OP was going on about, but fuck Mary. She's a cunt.
>>216531677Shut up yank
>>216531677Aristocracy>Insane Fabian Socialist Bureaucrats
>>216531695>cuntWell, yeah. Thats the reason of her existance, a cunt waiting to be penetrated by some heir cock so the family keeps the state
>>216531677All of Downton Abbey I watched was the finale because it was in theater. Giamatti was funny as the slimy American uncle Fackham Hall was a good movie. Very funny with a satisfying twist ending romance
>>216531808Nice, I've got tickets to see that on tuesday
>>216531677Fuck you bitch.It's comfy.
>>216533723Ah, yes. Its very comfy to see servants struggling to justify their masters place in an obsolete social hierarchy. I like the historica setting, but it feels like Im always being told why "your lordship" is the best man in the world and I should feel grateful I can serve him and his family
>>216535141Perhaps you should watch Remain of the Day
soap operas didn't die, they metastasized into the rest of television
>>216531677>Downton AbbeyGreat series, I rewatch it every year. Also, Madeleine is my Edwardianfu.
>>216531677>Downtown Abbey>not downtown >not in an abbey
>servitudethey get a wage, place to stay and 3 meals a day. there's nothing wrong with a wealthy family having a big house and employing people to do work for them while they larp with their titles and customs.
>>216531677>aristocracy is le goodThey were, that's why the Jews started ww1 to kill them off. Officers had the highest casualty rates because they were noble chads charging into battle, not the faggot middle class management queers sitting at a desk we have today.
>>216531808Seems jewish>>216535770This anon gets it.
>>216535770Did the artistocracy have no agency?
>>216533723Is that film as depressing as it sounds?
>>216533022Honestly going I thought "ugh, this'll be lame" but it was so funny the whole way through. The trailer makes out like it's a murder mystery but that's barely a factor >>216535264You don't know what a soap opera is you fucking retard>>216535770If they were so "noble" they could've, y'know, not got into gang violence
>>216535770They had higher casualty rates due to primitive telecommunications requiring them to be in the firing range.If they had the same positions a decade ago they would be directing anti terrorist operations from some air-conditioned bunker in the Green Zone
>>216535875I don't know how it sounds, I just watched it cold.It certainly gave me a sense of melancholia, and I'd wager my life is more depressing.
>>216535987>If they had the same positions a decade ago they would be directing anti terrorist operations from some air-conditioned bunker in the Green ZoneThere's literally a movie about that. Eye In The Sky with Helen Mirren, Aaron Paul, and Alan Rickman.
>>216531677Lots of literature about the death of the aristocracy in Britain in the 20th century, my favourite being Dance to the Music of Time and the Sword of Honour trilogy, and it's hard not to be sympathetic. The landed estates ceased to be profitable in the late 19th C, ceding their pre-eminence to industrialists, but WW1 and 2 killing off their most competent and patriotic sons and then death duties forcing them out of their houses really finished them off. And what replaced them? Dowdy MPs ruining the country, footballers, pop stars, foreign billionaires? Can't really say there is anything approaching an aristocracy of talent in the UK right now.
>>216531808I’m glad tom has a job.
It's funny that the show that glorified a better era had a sex scandal that typifies the current era when one of the stars was photographed having a penis stuck in her eye in addition to other compromising situations.
side watched half of s1 this show is boring as shit
>>216536545Whilst I have sympathy with the aristocracy it has limits. Their intermarrying with jews signed their own fate and that of the nation. There was also somewhat of a fall from grace over the centuries, from pioneers of discovery and a devotion to the arts and self-education to extravagance and degeneracy. There was also a staleness that came with the relative stability since the glorious revolution, now it was the aristocracy given fresh blood via promotion or punished for failings.
>>216531677Yes, it's extremely reactionary and silly but unfortunately also exceedingly comfy, well-produced and snappily written.
>>216531677>complains about the 'elite'>elite means by definition 'the best'>commie leftist tranny freak is such a dysgenic mutant it wants everyone else to be as lowly and vile as itkill yourself, it's quicker
>>216537252Yeah, they were certainly geriatric, and I'm not even saying it's wrong they've mostly disappeared - part of the charm of the books is how helpless and quaint these families are, running on the fumes of tradition, it's just the culture of an aristocracy tied to the land and people is preferable to one of rootless cosmopolitans and traitorous technocrats.
>>216531677For me its Mary
>>216531677Lord Grantham was constantly shown to be terrible with money and as having no business sense. In the modern world, he'd get scammed out of his money by a Nigerian Prince scam. With a few exceptions, like anyone Irish Tom brought around, the lower classes were shown to be far more competent and reasonable.
>>216537967Oh I think it was wrong what was done to them, starting with Lloyd George. If they had retained their sense of duty (as many of them did) as a class and continued to fulfil their role I would be stridently defending them. What replaced them is awful. After WWI there was an aristocratic campaign to pay off the national debt via aristocratic donations. Can’t imagine the Sunaks or Starmers of the nation to have a similar impulse.
>>216531677I remember loving this as a teenagerthen a few years back I tried to watch it again and I couldn't get past the first seasonsame happened with lost
Is it even affordable to build an abbey downtown?
>>216531677yeah, it's pretty pathetic as a realist pieceit succeeds because it's basically star trek for women. the world war 1 plot is 1:1 with the dominion war plot
>>216531677>most successful British costume drama since the 80'sWhich was?
216531677 Thanks for your two pence yank but I think Man V Food would be more to your taste
>>216531808>>216533022>>216535850>>216536556Is /tv/ just boomers now? There was a group of senior citizens in my theater who were laughing their asses off (matinee showing). Fackham hall was like a 3/10. All the humor was like The Naked Gun (1988) but with infinitely less wit.
>>216536545>all the good men died in the wars, VGHOnly a small portion of western european countries' populations died in WW1/2>but the BEST diedIncel genetic determinism obsession / jeet caste brainrot detected
>>216539379>Only a small portion of western european countries' populations died in WW1/2those deaths were rather concentrated among the young, male, physically fit, and yes, aristocratic/upper class. >>but the BEST died>Incel genetic determinism obsession / jeet caste brainrot detectedAre you a retarded blank slatist by any chance?
>>216538918Don’t know why you replied to me
