Wait, so in the beginning of Return of the Jedi, Han has been kidnapped by a space gangster and Luke, Leia and Lando all go rescue him in a risky shoestring special operations mission requiring two people and two robots to successfully infiltrate and Leia gets raped by a pig man.Then, 30 minutes later, it turns out all these people are among the most important individuals in the Rebel Alliance, which is a galactic-scale superstate with its own military-industrial complex capable of highest-possible-tech space battles against the Empire.So, what is the reason that the Alliance couldn't just park starship over Jabba's palace, deploy some X-wings to strafe the place a little, and demand Han's return? Han was revealed to hold the rank of General in the Alliance military (????).I mean this is fucking retarded, it's like the Mafia kidnapping one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and holding him on an island in the Pacific somewhere, and the Navy's reaction is to send in two or three other generals and chaplains in there to sneak him back out while their huge fleets of warships, aircraft and special operations ninjas all just sit around thumbing their assholes.It makes absolutely zero sense. I don't even understand what Leia's role was. She even tried threatening them with violence using a little bomb she waved around. Doesn't every Alliance ship have scarier threats than that? Didn't Luke have a ship that could fire proton torpedoes?Even if they didn't want to stir up trouble, they could have just said "Hey jabba here take the cash value of a couple B-wings and give us Han back and nobody has to have their entire criminal operation turned into smoke in the blink of an eye.What if it didn't work? What if something stupid had happened and they all died? Would the Alliance go "welp, scratch four members of our command staff, bummer?"This shit is retarded and it's a totally unforced error, they could have done anything else and it would have made more sense
>>216534832>starslopgrow up and stop watching this dumb manchild nonsense
idk. economic stability and the spice trade or something. rebels were almost certainly using jabba's crime network for something ans probably didnt want to piss him off.but this is not mentioned in the movie so you're right, it's gay.
stories are realistic in the mythical sense and not the mechanistic sencedon't watch movies if you can't handle a little fantasy and everything has to make mechanical logical sense in your beep boop robot brain
>>216534832He simply had faith in the Force.
>>216534832Why would the Rebels risk their fleet for Han? His debts are his own, maybe Mon Mothma will let him have the rank of "general" whatever that means but she’s not going to put the entire operation at risk for a smuggler’s debts. Obviously "general" doesn’t mean what it does to us because the "generals" are under the command of admirals. Ultimately, Jabba and the Rebels are criminals. They’re able to operate as they do by staying under the radar, maybe the Rebels could nuke Jabba from orbit but massing that much firepower would compel Jabba to call in the Empire. Game theoretically, they have to sort out the Han situation amongst themselves.> the Rebel Alliance, which is a galactic-scale superstate with its own military-industrial complex capable of highest-possible-tech space battles against the EmpireThey can fight an open battle against the Empire if they concentrate all their forces spread out through the galaxy into one specific weak point, but the Empire still dwarfs them.
>>216534832I'm not reading that. Star Wars is gay
>>216534993>rebels were almost certainly using jabba's crime network for something ans probably didnt want to piss him offspoiler for Return of the Jedi: Jabba is strangled in plain sight by a 100 pound girl, so their goal of not making him angry was at first a failure and then irrelevant>>216535103>Why would the Rebels risk their fleet for Han?Because the alternative was risking a princess, two generals, and their recently-rediscovered spiritual mascot, plus Jabba didn't appear to pose any risk to the Rebel Fleet, I mean was he going to trick them into flying their cruisers into the Sarlacc Pit while the basement monster tried to bite through the hull of a battleship?Jabba backed down because somebody was holding a hand grenade and his personal vehicle got blown up by two stray rounds from a deck gun
>>216535443> Because the alternative was risking a princess, two generals, and their recently-rediscovered spiritual mascotNo, they took that risk themselves. That’s the point. > Jabba didn't appear to pose any risk to the Rebel FleetLike I said, if they bring enough firepower to threaten Jabba on his home base, he calls the Empire.
It was an open world movie and they opted for the side quest because Luke needed to murder a bunch of unarmed aliens for the XP
>>216534832Hutts control trade routes too. They didnt want to have Star Wars with them too.https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Hutt_starship_classes
>>216536247Please cease posting your anti-canonical sourcesThis is no longer mouse-approved
>>216535599>No, they took that risk themselvesDo you have a lot of fat in your ears? If an NFL quarterback risks his life, the functioning of the team he belongs to is also at risk and therefore an item of interest to the team, even though the team isn't the one bungee jumping with a clotheslineholy shit are you the stupid one in most of the conversations you have?
>>216534832>Leia gets raped by a pig manshe actually serviced everyone there off screen for weeks if not months just constantly getting pounded all day
>>216534832I dont care enough to read all that shit.but after killing jabba luke will be hunted by mercenaries all his life.jabba was like a reallt really important mob boss.he tried and avoid that.
>>216536334>she actually serviced everyone there off screen for weeks if not months just constantly getting pounded all dayHe meant the character not the actress
>>216534860You're the biggest fucking faggot in every one of these threads you show up in.
>>216536300That they (Luke, Leia and Lando) took the risk themselves doesn’t mean the Rebels had nothing to lose, it means the Rebels couldn’t stop them like it could stop them taking a ship. You are too stupid to insult anyone’s intelligence.
>>216534832I watched Star Wars 6 return of the jedi in October and realised something strange, the rebellion would have blown up the death star even if the emperor had turned luke to the dark side. The empire would have lost even in the empire's best case scenarioBit weird that, that the rebellion inevitably would had won, because they blew up the shield generator, yet it was the emperor's own plan for them to try to blow it up to trap them and destroy them thereLuke either joining the dark side or not, and Vader turning on the emperor and throwing him into the reactor core, all didn't really change a thing because regardless of what happened on the death star it was about to blow up in a few minutes anyway. Nothing that was happening in the throne room of the death star had any bearing on the land or space battles that resulted in the destruction of the death star and the end of the empireThe emperor's plan only makes sense if the shield generator was very strongly defended but it obviously wasn't at all. The rebels had a much stronger shield generator the film before and the empire blew that one up. An at-at blew that one up and an at-st blew this one up. Bit weird that uninhabited frozen shithole Hoth is that much more strongly defended than the second death starLuke could have died at any point after rescuing Han and the rebellion would have won. The emperor gave the rebellion the information about the shield generator to trap them and the rebellion blew up the shield generator easily and then wonI don't get it
>>216534832why did mark hamill suddenly show up ugly as fuck
>>216536871The emperor was trying to lose on purpose so he could do something with Rey later on
>>216536921Oh right okay
>>216536871Luke’s confrontation with the Emperor may not have mattered to the battle but it mattered to you, the viewer.>>216536901He’s was in a car accident between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.
>>216536970>Luke’s confrontation with the Emperor may not have mattered to the battle but it mattered to you, the viewer.George is that you
>>216536871Luke managed to turn Vader back to the light side. It did matter to Luke and he was willing to risk his life to do so. Its not that hard concept to grasp on unless you’re an autist.
>>216536988It depends, are you ready to apologize?
>>216536970>Luke’s confrontation with the Emperor may not have mattered to the battle but it mattered to you, the viewer.the three dudes in the emperor's room where the main and most powerful entities figthing for good and evil,so it was really a big deal.its been 50 years for you to understand a movie for kids.
>>216536901he picked a fight with a wumpus and lost
>>216536871>The emperor's plan only makes sense if the shield generator was very strongly defended but it obviously wasn't at all.?It was successfully defended. The rebels were stopped and captured. What wasn't accounted for was the native teddy bear guerilla force.
>>216537300Did you read the post I replies to? The point is the battle outside was won or lost indpeendtly of luke’s struggle
>>216534832The Hurts BITCH SLAPPED the Empire in the Second Clone War. They even had bribed whole Star Destroyers into their fold. The Hurts pulled out their secret weapon, an Excell spreadsheet and told ol Sheev to FUCK OFF. This could have become problematic overtime but then the rebels did everything. This is why the wars are plural in ANH. There was 2. It's well documented.
