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Cow edition.

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>>216579970
that is a bison not a cow
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Why dont we discuss a good show instead like Devs
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>>216580007
that show ended 10 years ago anon
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>>216579970
>Cow
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>>216580002
Me too. I only continue watching this show so I can shitpost with you guys.
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>>216579970
Simple solution to the hive: Kidnap 1 plurb, tell them they have one week to unplurb the world or you will get angry causing worldwide psychic damage.
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>>216579970
MOOOOO

>>216579997
Cope and seeth, NERD
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>>216578945
carol does not want the hive back
she just wants people back
the hive is all she has to turn to
but it won't make her feel any better
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>>216580019
~5 years thank you
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>>216579970
bad cgi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoemgZmUB60
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>>216579970
With all the crazy things that are going on this is going to go down as one of the best sci-fi shows of all time.
So many happenings are going to happen in the next two episodes, I can't keep up!
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>>216580077
i rounded up :^)
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being in a hive mind doesnt sound that bad, i mean, am i wrong? it seems strange but comfy
i dont think the plurb can be unplurbed though
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>>216580048
you sound like you have a very fulfilling life
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>>216580112
It has been confirmed by Carol there is a way to unplurb the world. She nearly killed the pirate plurb trying to find out how.
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I'm almost two days late to this but Carol waiting for the big ass firework cannon to hit her in the face reminded me of Chuck's death.

Almost bravo Vince this time.
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The show should have been split between Carol, Manousos and Diabete. Everything Carol related definitely could have been trimmed down to the screentime of 3 or 4 episodes, making her still definitively the main character but removing the need to endlessly pad things out. Diabete fucking around and slowly cracking from how fake everything is and Manousos cozily driving through a surreal apocalyptic world while creepy plurbs repeatedly try to temp him definitely should have gotten more screentime, he's by far the best part of the series so far.
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>>216579991
>wouldn't of
lmao retard!!! who's the wrong one now

In terms of what the plurb leaving her accomplished for the story, it was completely pointless. Sure it gave her the opportunity to find out that they're eating humans, but the other immunes learned the same thing without needing to do what she did, and then no one cares about it anyway. Completely inconsequential. The plurb leaving, staying away, and coming back used up three episodes.
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>>216580155
Would that have actually killed her btw? I'm not an american I don't know much about fireworks, obviously it would fuck her face up
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>>216580155
chuck's death surprised me, fire/smoke inhalation is an awful way to go
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I hope Carol gets infected at the end of the season and Manusos becomes the main protagonist in Season 2.
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>>216579970
>herd animal living in solitude
>just like carol
BRAVO VINCE not
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>>216580163
also the Manousos travel episode could have been a great way to worldbuild and show wtf Plurbs in isolated villages and such are even DOING but they just glossed over that.
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>>216580065
Why wouldn't this work?
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>>216580094
you rascal!
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>>216580171
i think she knew it wouldn't kill her. maybe it was an attempt to force the hive back without her having to ask for them.
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what are we watching after Pluribus? since it's probably gonna end on a cliffhanger after only I think I want a show that tells a complete story with a decent amount of episodes, considering this show.
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>>216580185
because as of yet none of the immunes are willing to kill millions of the hive drones to get answers
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>>216580171
yeah probably, not a very efficient method of suicide though. like most suicide attempts by women, it was just a pathetic cry for attention.
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>>216580172
Chuck was a cunt. So was Howard. Jimmy did nothing wrong (except confessing at the end).
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>>216580149
but think of it like this, if the hive mind is broken, i wake up to find out i have been drinking people, body is probably sick from lack of nutrition, i also seem to be able to REMEMBER everything, infrastructure for farming is completely wrecked, people will starve.
the plurb is an extinction event one way or the other
THAT SAID, this is one of the most stupid hive minds in fiction

APPLES are literally made for eating by plants, why would an alien virus care about the native ecosphere? it makes more sense if it was a native Gaia mind
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I'm just going to say. This show is fucking stupid on multiple levels. "Oh breaking bad S1 was also shitty and slow!!" Okay yeah, it's true to a degree, but by the same point we are at now, breaking bad had already developed a lot and exhumed a lot of charm and humor.

Pluribus could still end up being great if it takes different turns or if there is significant payoff for all of the exposition. I have no doubt that Vince could deliver. But even if he does, it won't retroactively make S1 great, it would be great in spite of it. S1 is annoying as fuck and so far the basic premise of the show is lame.
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>>216580171
Maybe not instantaneously, would have probably been a slow death like Manousos due to burn injuries.
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>>216580229
i liked all of the characters and wished they could all have had a happy ending
better call saul was better than breaking bad
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>>216580229
Everything you said in your post is wrong except for Chuck being a cunt, he mostly was
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>>216580231
I don't think the unplurbed would retain the hive memories. Not only is it way too much to fit into a single head but since your personality is created by your memories an unplurb who remembers the hive would not be the person they once were
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>>216580172
It was sudden yet had a perfect built-up to it.
Him tearing down his own house was kino too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3vrzytrBAE
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>>216580169
them leaving was to make carol realize she's in the wrong and that she needs to stop harming people, and her behavior ties into the other immunes knowing about the cannibalism before her because diabetes wanted to include her but by majority vote she was deemed too toxic of a person to be included
the plurbs wanted to make her realize she was doing bad things which they ended up fully accomplishing
so again
your wrong
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>>216580247
Howard was a jerk to Kim for no reason. And he was a jerk to Jimmy because Chuck ordered him to. And then he forced Chuck to retire and kill himself. He doesn't get to be at peace and move on just cause he does some meditation. I'm glad he ended where he did.
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>>216580163
Oh neat my screenshot with offset subtitle timings got saved. He spent the whole time in his storage unit office so there isn't much to show other than him scanning every radio station until he left.
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it's a good show okay you guys just don't enjoy photography that's ok but for me every frame is art
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>>216580266
>defending a guy with a NAMAST3 license plate
I stood up and applauded when he got shot in the head.
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>>216580266
but they were brothers! what could have been. that's why bcs was so good.
>>216580272
yes it was
>>216580276
i liked howard and kim but i liked howard slightly better
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>>216580232
>you just don't understand
>its a metaphor
>for lesbianism
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>>216580294
literally the modern Kubrick
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>>216580271
So the harem shouldnt remember getting raped?
What about anyone who helped grind people down? Every single person can't be themselves, it's a mix of everyone, how to know the right thing will go to the right place, every neuron has been working together, if anything their minds would be fried.
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>>216579970
The episodes are increasingly becoming more time-filler as this goes along. There's very little story going on here.
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>>216579997
>>216580030
>that is a bison not a cow
Female bison are called cows. You can tell if the base of the horn is more than twice the diameter of the eye. Also, they weren't talking about the bison!
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>>216580333
you won.
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DAE nothing happens??????
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>>216580447
wdrama moment
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So what's going to happen when Carol starts raping err I mean sleeping with Zosia, is she just going to give up?
Like I have this girl I can rape err I mean romance now so everything is okay?
Like Mr. Diabetes?
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>>216580007
>good show
>devs
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>>216580487
she will do it for pure reasons (she is actualy in love with the plurb) and not for low iq hedonism so it's ok
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>>216580290
You could show him initially finding out about the plurbs, barricading himself in in panic, more about rationing supplies, plurbs in the form of various people from his life trying to tempt him out, etc. Really though the journey north could get a lot more screentime than it did
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>>216580487
no carol will spin out and devolve further mentally i don't think she gets with zosia
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>>216580543
>she is actualy in love with the plurb
wasn't she screeching and abusing it not long ago
how can one go from that to love in such a fast pace
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>>216580461
Imperial Japan did nothing wrong
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>>216580579
By now she has gotten past the death of her wife (women are fast to grief like that) so now she's ready for a new chapter in her life
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Listen, plurbs are evil. They are animals and only imitate human speech and behavior insofar as they can manipulate us into helping fulfill their biological imperative.
There is no negotiation with them. They are monsters that need to be put down. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>216580598
It was about jews all along
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>>216580327
The harem was never raped, because the women no longer exist in their pre-plurbed form. Same way that fucking a corpse is not rape cause there is no person whose consent you can violate. The plurb gave it's consent for the sexual use of it's bodies.
Only way you could construe it as rape is if the plurbed are traped in their own bodies, still experiencing everything the plurb does with them, unable to affect anything.
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>>216580598
>*burns a perfectly good car*
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I accidentally made myself fall in love with Zosia. Fucking hell.
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>>216580598
For Plurb sake. Can you calm down?
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>>216580633
That's right. Unlike the plurbs, humans can exercise free will to such a large degree that we can even destroy. Meanwhile the plurbs can't even pick fruit to save themselves for starving. They are not human.
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>>216580593
america hasn't made good tv in over 10 years
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>>216580625
It's rape, no doubt about it. A human isn't just the mind but the body too, the body is still working. I imagine the plurbing has to work like anesthesia locally, shutting off the mind and using resources to run whatever their process is, but the body remains. The body alone can act and remember
>>216580691
the return and mr robot were the last kinos
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>carol half of the episode: 2/10
>manousos half of the episode: 9/10

i hate women so much bros
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>>216580461
>>216580691
Made for IJA cock
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>>216580646
this man will chop her head off with a machete
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>>216580625
>The plurb gave it's consent for the sexual use of it's bodies
>it's bodies
>it's
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>>216580595
>time to turn the page for a new chapter of rape
>dear diary, today I raped her in the rotunda
>after that I requested the plurb slaves make us lunch
>then I raped her in the guest bathroom
>I asked her if she liked it, she didn't answer but I knew she did
>tomorrow we are going to take the rolls and I will be raping her on a long weekend getaway
>just the two of us, she has no choice but I know she would want to
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Manousos is a fucking retard, he could have taken a boat and done that part of the trip by sea, there is 0 reasons to try to hike through that area
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>>216580653
It's a next step for humanity. We were tiktaaliks at some point. Should we go back to the water then too? Since what he was doing was affront to vertebrates everywhere? Drink your bone marrow milk.
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>>216580776
You are soulless, he has to do it on his own because he is human.
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>>216580595
>fast to grief like that
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>>216580776
He couldn't afford a boat
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>>216580776
taken a boat? do you have any idea of long the darien gap is by boat?
you can't make that gap in a simple motor or sail boat
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>>216580776
he doesn't own a boat
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55 miles is not that far, he could have just swam around the gap
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>>216580625
>Your honor
>Technically that person could not be raped
>They were unconscious and in a dream
>Therefore, at the time of the rape, they were not in their body
>The body gave its consent for the sexual use and responded appropriately
>Yet the person was not there to experience it
>Therefore it was not rape
>I rest my case
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>>216580802
WRONG.
A hive mind is a masturbatory concept, entertaining but if anything, true evolution is radiation, humanity into more and more specialized people and eventually bodies.
Look at the plurb, it cant do shit, its hopeless, its going to kill off the only intelligent species on earth because its completely a baby. In fact this is why any actual moral person would have stabbed Diabete and the others, they have to die.
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......does the plurb have an age of consent? asking for a friend
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>>216580802
>could have been peacefully swimming in the ocean
>have to wageslave for jews instead
thanks tiktfaggot
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>>216580872
If we really think about it no, if it's ok with turning kids into milk, it would be ok with that too. Which is why you have to kill the plurbs, make them experience their bs until all of them die or they go away.
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>>216580872
Maybe the plurb isn't so bad
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this generals are more gay than ever lately or im tripping?
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>>216580853
Damn, so Plurb will exhaust resources of the planet and will fuck off to colonize other ones on a beam shot into space? That's fucked up. Hey, what's humanity's long-term plan when it exhausts the resources of the planet? Seems like plurb and beans are doing the same thing. Plurb the Great is just better and more efficient at it.
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>kidnap plurb
>torture it

Wtf is plurbie gonna do?
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>>216580935
Go into cardiac arrest to cease that body's pain and suffering judging by episode 4.
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>>216580896
The plurb must have some way of compartmentalizing what the individuals feel. The airplane pilots can't be thinking about water treatment while they're flying planes. The plurb can't possible be constantly experiencing the agonizing starvation of millions of people. Zosia can't be feeling Diabete rawdogging his harem in her plussy while Carol is confiding to her about conversion camp.
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>>216580007
That show is among the most abominable trash I've ever seen
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>>216580924
There is literally nothing to discuss because nothing happened in the previous episode. Somehow a show that is all filler had an actual genuine filler episode lmao
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I don't understand. Why Ashley boettcher is not in the show.
She's a christian boycotted by hollywood ( she doesn't want to be nude on camera ).

It's a show about christianism but no christian actress like Ashley boettcher.

That retarded.
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>>216580827
That sort of also implies that, even if he had made it through, he was going to walk the rest of the way to the USA.
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>>216580987
>nothing happened in the previous episode.
>Somehow a show that is all filler had an actual genuine filler episode lmao
told you so
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>>216580849
I see your point.
But the difference here is that the plurb supplants the original mind, and we have no idea what remains of the original.
Imagine if your mind were to cease existing, and magically a new one took it's place with a different personality. If that second person then had sex with someone using what was previously your body, could it be said that you were raped?
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>>216580926
It exhausts the resources of the planet for a non sense goal that's not native to the species, and not natural to the species. Humanity, art, culture, etc is the sweet part of the deal that needs the bad part, technology, war and and expansion.
You can't get one without the other. When we think of space, colonization, we want the former out there, individual human lives looking up at the stars.

The plurb is inhuman, you know what the plurb is, a gay version of the thing here
Read the short story about the thing by peter watts, THIS IS WHY i find it laughable that the plurb cares about consent now, it only came to be by attacking individuality.

https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/watts_01_10/
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>>216581013
cars and bikes are cheaper than boats. he could buy one
>walk in
>leave money on the counter
>drive away
just like he paid for gasoline
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>>216581063
he's going to pay with a foreign currency?
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>>216580977
Maybe not. It could be a different level of consciousness that can do those things at the same time without a problem.
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>>216581085
>walk into currency exchange
>take some, leave some
easy
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>>216581038
what about those people that are brain dead in hospitals
if you show up and just start going to town
what do you think is going to happen to you
this show is just turning into a rape show
we are going to see carol rape this girl
over and over
this poor girl
just get raped over and over
then people are going to defend it
what kind of show is this
cannibalism
rape
what's next?
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>>216579970
Is an cow and athlete?
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>>216581107
>look it up
>one guarani is 0.00015 US dollars
lol. those were 100,000 PYG bills he was leaving
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If it wasnt for manousos i would have dropped this show 4 episodes ago.
Nobody wants to see carol being a white woman
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>>216581040
>goal that's not native to the species
15-hour gooning sessions to sissy hypno porn are also not native to animals we descended from, yet we are doing it anyway.
You are a trilobite (or whatever ancestor humanity had millions of years ago) looking at a spaceship and saying "what the fuck is this? this wasn't the thing in my time!"
Unc, go home to your family, the future is Plurbing.
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>>216581160
Who do we know who loves staring at white women? Apple TV is trying to increase their Indian viewership.
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>literally nothing happened for 35 days since the last episode
You can't make this shit up.
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>>216581160
Me but with Zosia.
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>>216581160
If she was gonna be singing for the rest of the show I was out
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>>216581202
wait until the cliffhanger in ep.09 on christmas before you go mad
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Plurbs are mutating
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>>216581202
Also what's with this shitty default Windows Movie Maker font?
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>>216581249
It is hideous isn't it
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>>216581232
its going to be the poster
carol looking up and screaming
what is she looking up at?
they already confirmed that's a shot from the show
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>>216581109
>what about those people that are brain dead in hospitals
Yes, I am saying that is not rape, because there is no consent to violate.
It's still a vile act and society will rightfully judge and condemn you for it.
I suppose you couldn't classify it as necrophilia since the body is technically alive.
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>>216580735
Every time I see this image I burst into laughter, thanks for ruining such a tense moment, anons.
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>>216581294
well luckily society doesn't care what you think because you're fucked up in the head
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>>216580625
you can’t consent if you are plurbed, because you lose your individuality. your brain stops being “yours” so to speak.
without consent, it’s rape.
I doubt the sex pest could be sentenced for it, due to the circumstances, even if he didn’t die (which he will, probably in this season), but it’s still rape.
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>Episode 9 is called 'the girl or the world'

Manu is gonna kill Zosia isn't he?
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>>216581344
The Plurb consented.
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>>216581351
no, she's going to whore herself out and have sex with all the men in the world
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>>216581040
love seeing a reference to The Things, really great short story not just for how well it explains The Thing coherently but also it's just better than his usual writing in like rifters or blindsight/echopraxia imo.
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They imply being immune is a genetic thing but all the immune are very diverse ethnically
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>>216581443
so?
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>>216581443
they never implied that
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>>216581390
but the plurb isn’t you. if you fall, get brain damage and suddenly wake up in the middle of getting plowed in the asshole by some one like Diabate, but apparently “you” consented, it’s not like he hasn’t exploited your lapse of consciousness, which would have prevented you from giving consent.
of course, in this situation Diabate wouldn’t be able to tell that “you” isn’t really “you”. he knows for certain the plurb isn’t the people though.
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>>216581500
that's sexual assault
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>>216581500
not sure what you mean.
it was a weird episode though. it basically showed that Carol’s motivation wasn’t actually to do what’s right, but to avoid getting plurbed herself.
and the scene where she breaks down in front of the plurb is sad, because the plurb has won - she can’t be alone, even if the alternative is just a facade of being with others.
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it's going to be amusing when years from now most people will finally realize that the only actually good part of the show is Manousos
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>>216581620
did you use AI to make this?
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>>216581599
I think it's a shame they showed her completely rudderless and without a plan. She was so motivated there for a while
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>>216581627
People are realising that now
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>>216581599
And also, she chooses to be with the thing that she directly blamed for Helen's death just a little earlier.
Has she now forgiven them for that, or something?
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>>216581630
The plurb made it for me
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>all you need to break a woman and have her betray everything she said she believes in is give her no attention for a month

This show is getting dangerously based
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>>216581599
>Carol’s motivation wasn’t actually to do what’s right, but to avoid getting plurbed herself
>why does ego make people care about things
yea why is that
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>>216581667
I think she's just lonely so she's going to tone it down a bit. She will still work against the plurbs but won't do anything like drugging them for information so they don't abandon her again
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>>216581040
speaking of it being a gay version of the thing there, more attention should really be getting placed on them sending Zosia purely due to knowing she'd be sexually attractive to Carol, or implausibly sending so many plurbs around Manousos and making sure they're dressed and placed in a mimicry of human life. Both are very mindful attempts at manipulation and arguably are states of deception compared to acting completely naturally -- and yet they also don't actually have a deeper "soul" or full sapience in the ways that'd clearly make them know what might be ineffective around Carol or Manousos. There's something very wrong with the nature of their apparent consciousness far deeper than some mere super-autism, and we see it in moments even as small as Zosia just spouting off trivia as if that was natural or going to be effective with Carol then.
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>>216581666
Dude omg, what if the plurb is like a metaphor for AI? Has anyone thought of that holy shit
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>>216581499
In Brazil there is a saying

>the drunk man's asshole has no owner
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>>216581729
They're faggy
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>>216581731
The plurb is the jew
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>>216581774
The plurb is the word
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>>216581718
carol still doesn't have any sense of purpose so she'll just get worse. there is too much disconnect in her mind. she can't unlearn that the hive killed her wife or that the world is over.
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>>216581799
It's got a groove, it's got a meaning.
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>>216580007
lyndon sexo
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>be me

>you pluribitching speedwatch faggots calling Pluribus boring slop and Carol a useless white bitch

>meanwhile 98% on Rotten Tomatoes from 139 critics: original sci-fi from Gilligan leading Rhea Seehorn through brave new world with plentiful returns

>audience 68% cuz casuals hate depth, but critics call it gold Seehorn shines as miserable rebel vs hive, amazing even as unlikable jerk

>slow burn? point is contemplative horror on hive ethics, consent, isolation, capitalism in apocalypse gripping like classic Gilligan, baffles amuses surprises

>Manousos ourguy trekking like Christ? Ep 7 "The Gap" boldest ever: sound design, winds, singing rebellion, dialogue-free cinematics, emotional reunions spellbinding not filler

>Vince god, riveting event of year: thriller on mimicry, unhappiness saving humanity, AI doom enigmatic sad clever world with humor, weirdness, emotion

>Premiere: virus hive mind cataclysm, unaffected author Carol in Albuquerque explores anger/society hooks with intelligence, realism, better than early BB you rushed

>Shattered Apple records, biggest drama launch beating Severance S2 proves haters wrong, top-tier gold with noir, revelations, dilemmas not slop

>seethers cope on black humor, lines, bleak horror if drags, watch TikTok slop; Pluribus defines decade, plurbros rise, Carolchads Manousos simps unite, masterpiece slays

>keep plurbing on anons or stay mad
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>>216581888
>reddit spacing
didnt read
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>>216581888
Critics are all bought and paid for and even if they are not a RT score is useless. 98% just means 98% of critics gave it a 6/10 or higher. Rotten tomatoes is worthless
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>>216581647
it’s weird that all she did was drink beer, play golf and shoot fireworks. I mean, I get that the whole episode was supposed to contrast how naive Carol was in thinking she was self-sufficient, compared to Mansous, but you’d think she’d do more than just nothing all the time.
I also don’t get the bit about the painting. I suppose it’s a metaphor for the meaning real art has - the human element of it. but then, her taking it sort of goes against everything she criticised Diabate for.
maybe the rest of the season will be Carol’s downfall, exposing how by becoming more comfortable, she lost sight of what’s really going on, and what really should be done - she will slowly become like the rest of the retards (except for Mansous)?
>>216581662
leaving her completely alone like that is a form of torture. I suppose the plurb was successful in gaslighting her into thinking that it stepping back was really because “it needed time”. well, it did need time - to break Carol.
>>216581701
elaborate?
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>>216581951
>be me
>defending Pluribus from slop haters
>>216581951
>critics bought? lmao conspiracy fag, RT 98% from 139 reviews aint paid shill Variety calls it "riveting event of the year," IndieWire "Gilligan's boldest yet," THR praises Seehorn's "magnetic" Carol in hive horror masterpiece}
>useless score? cope harder, 98% means near-universal acclaim for original sci-fi on consent/isolation, not your 6/10 filler average rating 8.2/10, fresh as fuck unlike zombie trash}
>RT worthless? then why your ass still seething over it, autist audience 68% cuz casuals like you speedwatch and miss the depth, but real fans know ep7's dialogue-free winds/singing rebellion slays
>Vince aint selling out, this shatters Apple records beating Severance S2 views gripping ethics, black humor, existential dread defining the decade, better than early BB you probably pirated and dropped
>if critics wrong, explain why it's biggest drama launch ever? nah, you're just mad Carol aint your waifu and slow burn triggers your ADHD go back to capeshit, plurbros rise, hive mind gold confirmed
>keep plurbing on or admit defeat, seether
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>>216581917
>caring about "reddit spacing"
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>>216581976
>elaborate?
i'm making a character comparison between erwin from aot and carol regarding the idea that a person's ego (ingrained, unchangeable, subconscious) is the only thing strong enough to motivate them to go against what appears to be insurmountable odds.
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>>216582034
Oh okay. You're gay. I didn't realize
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>>216582069
brainlet
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so we rly gonna believe that she stopped caring about stopping the plurbing for 30 fucking days and then pick it up again because some ESL autist shows up?
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>>216581997
Oh good I picked one that should be in a straightjacket, my mistake.
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its getting hot in herre
so take off all your clothes
(i am getting so hot)
(im gonna take my clothes off)
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so she already gave up after only 30 days isolation?
normie.
my guess is she will be on the verge of saying yes to the hive operation and in that moment the mexican guy arrives and stops her from joining.
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Just watched the latest episode. It ends as soon as it starts. I thought to myself "no way is the episode gonna be him going to see Carol". Including the predictable rescue.

They're now gauging people's interest in the show, to see how many season they can stretch it for.
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I was thinking that she might follow a drone to see where it was coming from to try and find the plurbs. Oh well.
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>>216582114
Yeah, it's not as abrupt as it seems if you dig into the arc, anon. Carol's been solo in Albuquerque for months post-cataclysm, her journal in eps 5-6 reveals the mounting paranoia and futility hive mind's beaten her to every lead, unaffected folks don't give a damn anymore, and isolation's eroding her will. By "The Gap" (Ep 7), she's at rock bottom: knows plurbs need consent to convert, so she stocks fireworks and supplies, but that 30-day "pause" is pure burnout and despair, not apathy. Gilligan's signature psych realism slow erosion like Walt's early denial in BB, forcing her to confront if fighting's worth it when the world's "fine" in the hive.

Manousos ain't some random ESL autist; he's a Paraguayan survivor (accent's from that, adds gritty outsider edge) trekking from South America to NM, learning English diligently to connect, denying hive temptations with Christ-like persistence. His Ep 7 journey delayed by a near-fatal accident, dialogue-light with howling winds and raw determination proves resistance is possible. Their intersection isn't convenience; it's that vital human spark in apocalypse: shared unaffected status, intel on safe zones/churches, reigniting her purpose via genuine connection. Esquire calls it her "point of no return," IGN praises the beautiful lows and acting rewatch her Vegas drive-back and reserve-testing; the buildup's there. Pluribus excels at this nuanced emotional depth over plot dumps.
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>>216581024
>Adam Bernstein
the jews are deliberately wasting my time
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>>216580007
This show is mega kino and makes me want more mini series's
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>>216582222
You are mentally retarded
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>>216582034
oh ok. I didn’t watch/read AOT. that would be more like Mansous though, I think.
Carol seems to represent something else.
I believe she was just a hurt person, who didn’t like the rest of the world very much, and it didn’t like her back either (as a person). that’s probably due to how she was perceived as a lesbian, or how she believed she was being perceived. nevertheless, she was still in a kind of social relationship with that world - her antisocial attitude was still a part of the larger fabric of society. when everyone became the plurb, she was essentially ripped out of that social dependency. she hated a world that didn’t hate her back - her plight for retaining her individuality was a sham, because she was never an “individual” in the first place.
now, Mansous is another thing entirely. he seems like someone actually deeply hurt by the world, which caused him to reject it outright, even before it became the way it is. he’s doing through all this (probably) because he has a plurbed son, who is the only person in this world Mansous actually cares about.
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>>216582187
>They're now gauging people's interest in the show, to see how many season they can stretch it for.
are they that flexible?
like could they change the outcome of the next episodes within a few days?
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>and I need it dropped perfectly so that the recognizable Gatorade logo is in the frame
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>>216582218
He's married to Gretchen Schwartz IRL
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>>216582296
I mean, if the plurbs dropped it at a different angle, then the camera would have shown that angle instead.
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>>216582211
nice chatgpt post bro
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>no asian ass

The fuck is Vince doing ?
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>>216582342
>perfect shot of the gatorade in frame with Carol and the cop car in the background
I actually would have respected Vince if it dropped normally and he didn't cave in to the obvious "front and center with the logo highly visible" demands of product placement
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>>216579970
did nobody ever teach Manousos that you can siphon without sucking on the tube by just putting your thumb on top? Even in the worst case you can literally just use a second piece of tubing and some cloth and blow on ur second piece to create positive pressure until it self-siphons, it's way better not just for avoiding the abbo gas station experience but also because you won't waste any fuel this way.

Not even asking that to be like "lol dumb!!!" but half-wondering if this is remotely common knowledge.
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sometimes when i'm doing something mundane, i imagine it as a long drawn out scene from a vince gilligan show. how do i start making gilligan core?
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How can the plurb run the world without killing anything? Surely even digging up natural resources kills some plant and animal life. What about bacteria? That's alive so they can't even wash their hands. They will all die from some easily cured infection at this rate
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>>216582456
there must be more to the process of the virus. the hosts will eventually die and something else will come or they will...mutate as has been rumored
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Im about to watch the newest plurb

I feel like im going to skip about 60% of the scenes again.
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>>216582456
it's probably just a case of lazy midwit writers there given that Zosia sure as shit was not surviving her surgery after the grenade sent lots of wood shrapnel into her *and* then a heart attack recovery shortly after if she wasn't getting care in a sterilized operating room. Wood fragments can be nasty for infections, same as there was probably some glass from the windows.

>>216582506
you'll not skip even a single moment of Manousos / Paraguy
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>>216582456
It does not make sense, the same way veganism or vegetarianism do not make sense if you think about it for more than 5 minutes. In the real world its just virtue signalling and plain idiocy, plurb hivemind should know better
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>>216582402
>product placement
WTF. Now I want to buy a Rolls.
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>the best episode so far is the lowest rated

The great filtering is starting.
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>>216582427
They do this shit in TWD all the time too. Drives me nuts. I think they just prefer it that way, to get bukkaked in the face with gasoline every time.
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>>216582274
>I believe she was just a hurt person, who didn’t like the rest of the world very much, and it didn’t like her back either (as a person). that’s probably due to how she was perceived as a lesbian, or how she believed she was being perceived. nevertheless, she was still in a kind of social relationship with that world - her antisocial attitude was still a part of the larger fabric of society. when everyone became the plurb, she was essentially ripped out of that social dependency. she hated a world that didn’t hate her back - her plight for retaining her individuality was a sham, because she was never an “individual” in the first place.
her plight is as real to her as the death of her wife. everything you described is her ego against the world before and after the hive mind. it's who she is and can't be changed. that ego is what motivates her to go against it. instead of taking advantage of everything or coping as the other immunes have. the other immunes disliking who she is and excluding her, as the world pre-hive seemed to do, is not enough to supplicate her social dependence or her need to feel bitter about how others perceive her. whether through her need for misery or because she is unable to be happy either way, her ego is the only thing to make her care at all.
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>>216582427
common knowledge to who, criminals?
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>>216582498
the plurb might just be a parasite.
if the goal really is to make the plurb an allegory for AI, then it would make sense to have it leech off of genuine human ingenuity, creation and society, and stall progress entirely, because it can’t contribute anything new. it can only take what already exists and recombine it to sustain itself (like with the meat, plants and dead people).
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>>216582530
Come to think of it even the shower they gave Zosia in the first episode probably killed something.
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>>216582456
Even processing dead human meat would kill something. Bacteria living in your gut for one thing.
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the haters have a point with how boring this show can be. There's a difference between a slow paced show and one that wastes your fucking time and this one is seriously towing the line. I'll watch it no matter what though because I'm sexually attracted to Vince
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i really hope after this that vince makes a 40 hour movie called "nothing ever happens" that's just hours of footage of the desert
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If pirate lady turns up on day 40 something, what day was peru guy picked up in the jungle?
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>>216582717
TO WHAT? TO WHO?
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>>216582262
No you are
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>>216582717
>>216582760
Carol really should have defeated the plurb in a massive CGI battle by episode 3, then by episode 7 she should be battling the space werewolves that the aliens send to kill her. Season ends with her killing the werewolf king but them teasing that alien vampires are descending upon Albuquerque
We live in an ADHD culture and don't have time for character dramas
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>>216579970
This is another LOST 100% confirmed. No endgame in mind.
Sucks.
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>>216582585
a big part of her ego was the idea of being self-sufficient, at least within some larger social structure. the plurb is what completely strips her of her ego - she spends the whole episode struggling to realise her imagined ideal of independency. the end of the episode, where she ultimately caves in and calls out to the plurb to come back, is the ultimate manifestation of this. she is forced to admit that she is nothing without others, even though she was convinced the opposite was the case.
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>>216582804
There is no drama and there is no character. this show has nothing but a vague idea, its a draft of a tvshow
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Look. Let's say it is BCS episode 7 and you are watching weekly. Are you calling it a masterpiece? No, you're probably complaining that is is slow as hell, where is walter and jesse with their explosions? Why so much screen time for this mid girl?
But then by season 6 it is the best TV series you have ever seen.
THAT is what we all should be anticipating.
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>>216582581
on the flipside now that you mention the bukkake you made me remember that great scene from Fury Road when they're spitting starter fluid or gas or something into the intake like retarded psychos.

>>216582639
And while discussions can be made about what's more or less avoidable and they clearly have some kind of ethical system in which they weigh actions (as we do, merely with vastly different and more alien ethics)... ANY plant life down to fruits meant to be eaten or annual / biennal / etc. crops that naturally genetically will die on a brief timer... it's just an inconsistent and bizarre standard. Like oh yeah we're cool killing insects on accident and (probably) cool killing bacteria on purpose, but crops that actively don't even need their life cycle interfered with? Oh yeah we can't do that.

like dude, if you take a random fucking frozen or even just refrigerated steak, your chances are very good that it is still significantly alive. I'm not joking, same as even the picked fruits and vegetables they're willing to process are still alive or have significant portions that are alive depending on your standards.

If they have the (more-or-less) full scope of humanity in them, they'd actively know this and not even be able to process almost ANY food because it'd still involve killing living cells early; conversely if they're okay with ending active life in something that's doomed to die soon... most food crops that humans enjoy are already doomed to die soon as part of their natural life cycle. And meanwhile just releasing, say, all the chickens on earth is just releasing a couple tens of billions of birds to mostly die *right now* in horribly anguished ways, something they even kinda mention with taking care of some of the existing domesticated animals. It's just profoundly inconsistent and ill thought out.
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>>216582864
yes and this is the same case for manousos collapsing in the jungle.
yet it doesn't change the fact that their egos are the only thing driving them to care about fixing the world back to how it was.
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Holy fuck, episode 7 was SHIT
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>>216582872
then you're filtered, it happens
I have no desire to watch the Real Housewives or Bluey because those shows aren't made for me. I don't spend every day on Bluey messageboards going "WHO THE HELL IS WATCHING THIE SHIT???"
There's a new season of Stranger Things on Netflix with plenty of drama and action as the kids once again try to fight some demon thing, I think that's more your speed
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>>216582872
it’s a character study. it’s supposed to be a nuanced analysis of a person’s psyche. the drama is Carol struggling with her surroundings and with herself. even then we get frantic hospital rides, grenade explosions, wild wolves (which I’m convinced aren’t wild) John Cena PSAs and Bond-like casino showdowns.
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The cope when this show gets cancelled after 2 seasons with no real ending is gonna be hilarious
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>>216582809
lost was better than any tv of the decade with the exception of twin peaks
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>>216582373
hnnnnnnggggghhh
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>>216582698
No you're still thinking with far too limited scope; even most things you think of as dead aren't actually completely dead, especially if they've been kept cool and mostly intact. You can literally grab meat from a grocery store and a significant portion of cells will still be alive. Let alone fruit and veggies that can easily be argued to just be completely alive when edible except if processed in specific ways.

That's before we get into the difference between Soil and Dirt if we wanted to stick to your more bacterial or fungal persppective, and one becomes aware they walk outside upon mountains of life-and-death.
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>>216582897
I don’t think it’s the same with Manousos, because he explicitly rejected the plurb’s help every step of the way. Carol gets them to provide her with food, service etc. all the time. she has the plurb fly her out and back, spread her videotapes, all of that.
Manousos I reckon will be pissed when he wakes up in the hospital and realises he’d been saved and transported to the US by the plurb.
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>>216582211
kys plurb
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>>216582931
kill yourself
mr robot season 2 is slow done right and a real filter
this show is slop
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>>216583012
>because he explicitly rejected the plurb’s help every step of the way
and carol refused to play nice and fix her attitude to make her life easier like the other immunes have.
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>>216582938
it's not a very good character study so far and it has zero nuance
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>>216582963
yeah the hating on lost is weird. I'm not a big fan of it, but for something I do like more of look at BSG. Battlestar galactica (the '04 one) is just flat out great, it has acting and writing in the first 2 seasons that, while it can sometimes miss, is by far usually punching way over its weight class and has some truly fantastic material. Now, you can take that and just go "WAHHHHH THE THIRD SEASON HAS A FEW MORE MISSES AND THEN THE FOURTH HAS A SHITTY ENDING!!!", or you can just cut off the piece that has some mold and enjoy what's good.

It's so weird when people would rather hate on things that can be great because they aren't all perfect, rather than treating them as motivation to create even better things by learning from those mistakes while appreciating the good.
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>>216583047
then go watch mr robot
nobody is forcing you to watch a show you don't enjoy so you can endlessly bitch about it on the internet
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my hope is that mano still rejects the plurb and manages to walk out of the jungle by himself
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>>216582809
Lost rules, Pluribus sucks but not for the retarded reasons why you hate it
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>>216583171
He'll heal up in a hospital and ask them to drop him back into the jungle at the same exact spot.
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>>216580007
>Cailee's face and ass.
>pixie haircut
>its too powerfull
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>>216583241
hmm he's still cheating then, run wouldn't count
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>>216583171
Time lines wouldn't match up, he needs to meet with Carol for the final, he'd be driving through mexico midway through season 2 otherwise.
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>>216583271
they can spend episode 8 on another driving montage
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>>216583265
Yeah he has to walk back to where he was and carry on from there
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>>216583271
they could do a time skip showing zosia settling in to the role as carol's "partner" so by the time mano arrives they've spent months as a domestic "couple"
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>>216582931
Except that this show is incredibly dishonest and attempted to market itself as a sci-fi in the first episode which it is not. So it deserves to get shat on.
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Would you pork the plurb?
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>>216582804
allow me to clarify my friend. My issue isn't that the stuff that happens is itself boring persay, but rather that many of the individual shots and scenes linger for too long without doing much to reinforce the story or themes, especially in the interim between major plot points. Of course my beloved stallion Vince is no stranger to the slow burn, and I am hopeful he will provide us with the payoff we deserve. I still like the show thus far but I'm not gonna lie and say that I'm captivated with nearly every moment like I was with BB
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>>216583286
https://www.channel4.com/press/news/britespark-east-and-channel-4-take-road-trip-europes-most-spectacular-places-kevin
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>>216583322
>I'm gonna keep watching this show I hate so I can continue to post about how much I hate it
that's a complicated existence you got there, chief
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I dont get it and I dont understand it
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>>216583366
It's an allegory for a metaphor, or possibly the other way around
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>>216583339
that's every Vince show. Breathtaking panoramic shots of South America are more interesting than a 5-minute montage of Jimmy getting Cinnabon ready for the day
I honestly think S1 of BB was slower and more tedious than Pluribus, way too much time spent moping about Walt's cancer. Thankfully Vince realized that drug lording was more compelling than Walt & Skylar having another doctor's appointment so they can look sad
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all of you are in denial about liking this show because it’s from Bince
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>>216583451
that distracted handjob in episode 1 of BB still haunts me
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>>216582427
the worst part is that the tube is transparent so he could perfectly see the fuel coming
I think it's just one of these silly movie gimmicks like ripping off necklaces
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>>216583338
I’m thankful that none of the immune are pedophiles
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>>216583366
Thing of the plurb, they are supposed to be the collective knowledge of mankind, but comes of as naive, gives lukewarm non offensive answers, locks up when pressured to do or say something offensive. Are shown to have 0 autonony to the point of starving themselves
What do you think they represent?
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>>216583504
Mano could be
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>>216583504
Why? There's plenty to go around
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I heard a rumor that in the last episode we are going to get a POV shot of plurbs and it is going to show what they are up to, indicating that they are not quite human anymore and starting to mutate.
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>>216582616
>only criminals are self-reliant with a car
lol fag
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>>216583541
who'd you hear it from?
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>look up the real spiny palm trees they have in central america
>they look nothing like the ones in the show

Bravo
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Are the plurbs telepathic? If so can they connect to Carol? If they can't connect to Carol then how are they weak to her psychic attacks?
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>>216583577
the virus attunes your brain to a specific radio frequency so no Carol cannot be mindfucked
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plurb will put mano in a lose lose situation where he has to save carol from plurbing or the rest of humanity
the way to unplurb everyone is to block the radio signal

until in season 2 it's revealed there is another way they have to use carol's eggs
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>>216580007
A shame she looks like this now
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>>216583572
yeah someone probably ordered too few spikes and they had to get creative
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MY NAME IS MANOUSOS OVIEDO. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM, I WISH TO SAVE THE WORLD. MY NAME IS MANOUSOS OVIEDO. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM, I WISH TO SAVE THE WORLD. MY NAME IS MANOUSOS OVIEDO. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM, I WISH TO SAVE THE WORLD. MY NAME IS MANOUSOS OVIEDO. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM, I WISH TO SAVE THE WORLD. MY NAME IS MANOUSOS OVIEDO. I AM NOT ONE OF THEM, I WISH TO SAVE THE WORLD.
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>>216580184
Why would they be there? It's likely most of the world is just abandoned and the plurbs are mostly concentrated in places where they're productive.
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>>216583572
they look exactly like that, you fucking retard
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>>216583577
my two theories is the human minds are being kept in some type of stasis separate from the hive minds and whenever carol flips out it reaches them
the other theory is that the hive fakes it to manipulate carol
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>>216581500
the whole episode is a setup so carol can end up looking like the wholesome girlboss at the end of the season, the episode ends up looking like she surrendered to the plurbening, but it's all part of the keikaku, BRAVO VINCE WOMEN CAN BE BADASSES TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>216583620
YOU RAPED HER
YOU KILLED HER
YOU KILLED HER CHILDREN
CONFESS
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>>216583613
>>216580007
wait that was a girl?
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>>216583572
Central America has a ton of spiny ass trees, including that one. It's definitely real.

They evolved to have that because there used to be giant sloths living there, and they needed to defend against that.
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>>216583643
>but it's all part of the keikaku
(translators note: "keikaku" means "plan")
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Either the Plurbs broke Carol via isolation, or Carol is playing the long game and pretending to be broken in order to defeat the Plurbs.

Which is the more interesting prospect?
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>>216579970
>expecting a kino manousos travel ep
>its like 5 minutes of him being a retard and the rest is the SAME MISERABLE CAROL SHIT AGAIN AND AGAIN
fuck this show honestly
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>>216583671
>anti-sloth trees
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>>216583678
the third option is that carol will break further and snaps completely
her disregard for herself is but a step away from turning violent
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>>216581976
>her taking it sort of goes against everything she criticised Diabate for.
Yes, that's the fucking point, man. She started indulging herself superficially because she talked with Coomba last episode, and he figured out literally all she did without suffering all the time and making the best of it. So she's doing the same.
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>>216583678
>jokes on you, plurb
>i was merely pretending to be lonely and depressed
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>>216583678
considering the next episode is called "the charm offensive", it seems like Carol's just trying the carrot instead of the stick (maybe literally, if she has plurb sex with Zoshia)
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>>216583683
>fuck this show honestly

personally I enjoy the comfyness of nothing happening but there better be some sort of payout at the end
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>>216583718
there wont be. its very obvious this season ends on a cliffhanger and it will be a 2+ year wait
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>>216583643
what she gonna do? drug zosia again?
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>>216583718
the payout was John Cena delivering a PSA about ethical cannibalism, that made it all worth it
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>>216582781
I think the journey from paraguay to the gap is around 4500 km so 3-4 days with a car and a few more days in the jungle so maybe one week or two?
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>>216583564
There's some people talking about it on social media.
Supposed to tie in with the poster shot of Carol looking up and screaming or something.
There's going to be a big gotcha to draw viewers in for the second season, bigger that the söylent green angle.
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>>216583718
>personally I enjoy the comfyness of nothing happening

Same. It's not as much "nothing happening" as it is exploring the boundaries of the sci-fi premise. There's three characters with different priorities. I'm just waiting for the survivors to get into conflict, as they effectively have world power in their hands without quite realizing it. They can nuke some continents if they want to.
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>>216583624
yeah but we see that some of the places the plurbs are concentrated in are just bumfuck villages that Manousos drove through. As you said, why would they be there?
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>>216580007
DEVS was dogshit.
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>>216582544
Uh oh is that a real life item doing a thing on camera?

Product Placement much???

Retard
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>>216583761
aliens aren't coming, the plurbs aren't evolving into them, if you're looking for some big monster reveal you're going to be sorely disappointed
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>>216583764
Because they were tracking Manousos? Like they constantly kept popping up because they had drones or satellites or something following him. We're only seeing this through his eyes, those places would probably just be abandoned otherwise.
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>>216583718
>personally I enjoy the comfyness of nothing happening

I think this is the show's biggest risk, this has ultimately become a slice of life show, with a weird thematic context. The problem is, most western audiences aren't used to slice of life format, that's more of an eastern theme. If there isn't an inherent conflict or problem that gets resolved every episode then western audiences don't feel fulfilled or accomplished.

I personally enjoy post invasion slice of life.
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>>216583667
She a non-binary character in that show.
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>>216583783
very good goy
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>>216583825
get a job, hippy
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>>216583012
>Manousos I reckon will be pissed when he wakes up in the hospital and realises he’d been saved and transported to the US by the plurb.
imagine if the plurbs take him back to his home in paraguay lol
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>>216583047
can you please make a mr robot thread so I can go there and tell you it's a steaming pile of shit?
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Why does Manousos speak Spanish? Don't most Paraguayans speak Guarani as their first language?
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>>216583286
do you think the plurbs will restore manousos' car?
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>>216583793
the show is basically this
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Plurb it to the limit
Walk along the hive's edge
But don't look down
Just keep your head
Or you'll be plurbed
Open up the plurbit
Past the point of no return
Reached the top
But still you gotta learn how to plurb it
Hit the wheel and double the stakes
Throttle wide open like a Carol out of hell
You crash the gates
(Crash the gates)
Going for the back of beyond
Nothing gonna stop you
There's nothing that strong
So close, now you're nearly at the brink
So, plurb it, ooh yeah
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>>216583913
>70% of the population is bilingual
BRAVO VINCE
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>>216583923
I could see them finding the exact same make and model somewhere else in the world and giving it to Mano as a present, because they don't understand his emotional attachment to that one specific car
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>>216581499
So that's only a problem if you wake up, not the same guy btw
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>>216583913
He's not from Paraguay, also no, people who speak Guarani and not Spanish are only like 8% of the population
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>>216583934
based
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>>216583913
He's a Colombian immigrant there, but also most of Paraguay speaks Spanish
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>>216583794
It's a boy. Garland cast a girl for whatever reason.
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REAL
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>>216583786
There's so much happening and going to happen.
You just haven't been paying attention.



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