What the hell is going on in Star Trek lately??
>>216776717I don't know but I've decided to walk away. I stuck with it through the absolute shit of discovery, but there's no saving it now, is there?
>>216776717Obesity, male baldness and (male) sexism remain problems in the 24th century.
Is that a female Jemhadar?
>>216776717This is pretty much what department meetings at Universities look like these days. We will not survive the competency crisis.
>>216776717looks like the woman in the middle demanded to talk to the store manager.
>>216776769Yup
>>216776769That's Jemimahadar (her little grip and sip tube not shown)
>>216776769They Founders were wasting until they conquered the alpha quadrants to bring in the HRhadar.
Who gives a shit. Star Trek has been dead a long time. When Lower Decks is the best its got, it's fucking over.
>>216776717I can't recall a single episode of star trek where anyone wore glasses. Closest I can think of is Jordies visor.
Wouldn't they have cured poor eyesight by then?
>>216776717What is this from? I thought Discovery ended and Strange New Worlds is between seasons?
>>216777312There was a scene in star trek II where McCoy gives kirk old fashioned glasses because he is allergic to retinax.
>>216777450yes I recall this now that you mention it. 0So by the time of Acdemy retinax should be perfected. Even jordi got fake eyes in the movies. That's got to be better then human vision.
>>216776717looks like someone copied jem hadar as homework but changed just a bit
>>216777426Star Trek Academyhttps://youtu.be/ku2LwfybIHU
>>216776717SJWs wanted to destroy Trek because they thought it was too male and for chuds. Since they never watched Trek they don't know it's one of the most progressively liberal shows ever put on television. So the end result is SJWs removing the utopian liberal vision of Trek and replacing it with the dystopian hellscape of an SJW's inner thoughts.
>>216776717Starfleet academy added an MBA program
>>216776717Is that Nina Hartley?
>>216776932lmfao
>>216778377And it couldn't be more poetic. They destroy the very utopia they ostensibly claim to want because it didn't virtue signal enough and because they're more absorbed in attacking 'the other side' than making real, meaningful change. Pure pottery that perfectly encapsulates the woke ideology and what it accomplishes.
>>216776717This one picture perfectly captures the spirit of the show, HR meetings in space.
>>216776769No, it's a gender fluid protoceratops.
>>216776717>Chuds still seethingRent free
>>216776717>blue bitch in the middle with the spiny headTo be fair, this has always been the problem with Star Dreck.
>>216779359The irony of course being that you saved that picture not because it's a cool poster but because you know it's so retarded that you can use it to rage bait low IQ retards.
>>216778322>>216779359lol jfc
>>216779359I don’t want teens crying and quipping and cartwheeling through billion dollar cgi set pieces.I just was emotionally stable and competent people exploring space and thinking through problems. Why is that so hard bros?
>>216776717Star Trek: Hogwarts is up next. It's gonna be gayer and more stupid than anything else that came before it!
>>216779920>It's gonna be gayer and more stupid than anything else that came before it!Seems mathematically impossible to continue this level of each new iteration being exponentially worse than the last.
>>216776717>get rid of Tilly 'cause she's too fat now>give this
>>216780373>get rid of TillyOh yeah, I forgot about that. Wasn't the plan that she was starring in this? Not that it was going to make a difference to me, especially seeing as it looks worse than anticipated.
>>216776717it seems like they're intentionally trying to make it appeal to as few people as possible. its like they're burning down the entire brand on purpose
>>216776717Obese lumps need repping in space too
>>216781506>it seems like they're intentionally trying to make it appeal to as few people as possible. its like they're burning down the entire brand on purposeThey are in such a weird Hollywood woke bubble that, in many cases, they genuinely think this is what people are begging for. It's intellectual inbreeding at its worst because they just surround themselves with enablers and at the same time, the tard wranglers of old have mostly been run off so that they "artists" can indulge every woke excess without guard rails.
>>216776769honestly that was my .02% interest in this show. I was curious how they would "explain" HER and that was all.I specifically re-watched the scene where Dax is talking to her Jem'Hadar teammate on the Iconian Gateway mission, and he tells her there ARE no Jem'Hadar women. done. fact.I already heard a rumor that this female Jem'Hadar simply has a Klingon mother and a regular Jem'Hadar dad. booo. boring
so is SNW worth watching?
>>216781741>I specifically re-watched the sceneDon't you get it by now? They simply don't care. They saw a Jem'Hadar while mining for memberberries and gave zero thought to what the lore or canon actually said. They do not care. At all. Even a little.
>>216781943you see this picture now, of the episode where it's somehow a musical. you will think "no f-ing way, get this garbage out of my face."but... if you DO watch Strange New Worlds, by the time you get to this moment, you WILL cheer for it.is that a challenge?yes, SNW is remarkably back to episode-of-the-week goodness. sure, there are a couple of stinkers, and maybe a little bit of "le agenda" but overall, it's pretty good.
>>216781506Cultural revolution, destroy the old to have "president" Xi/Chairman Mao for lyf
>>216781741>>216781977Isn't this series hundreds of years in the future? I have complete faith that the Dominion is capable of changing their ways and modifying the Jem'Hadar for two-sex breeding within that timeframe.The shitty writing will suck for other reasons, we don't need to cry about the lore.
>>216782032We didn't need another prequel.
>>216782032interesting
>>216781977no, they do care. they're doing this kind of thing on purpose.
evil can only destroy and so on
>>216776717Paramount owns Star Trek and that’s about all the know, so having no fucking idea what Star Trek is or is about, and just put everything in the hands of Star Wars level retard Alex Kurtzman, who thought he could finally de-nerdify & make the boring old Star Trek brand worth something, by making new shows for all the little kids raised on of marvel superhero/supervillain moneymakers.Take the best ideas JJ Abrams had (random fucking lights all over the place for max lens flares, shiny transparent glitzy sets) and combine them with simple Death Star super weapon threats, and 2010s marvel hero character melodrama & dialogue. Fans of the old shows are like fans of old Star Trek & old Dr. Who. Old and irrelevant, just like those shows themselves. tldr>Look at how much money Marvel made!>JUST DO WHATEVER THEYRE DOING, OBVIOUSLY ITS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
>>216779359I LOVE THIS SO MUCH! ITS ETHNICALLY YOUTHFUL AND HOMOSEXUALLY YOUNG!
>>216782120>I have complete faith that the Dominion is capable of changing their ways and modifying the Jem'Hadar...right. that was the part I was curious about. like, if this character was THE FIRST female the Founders manage to create... that kind of thing. that might be an interesting character. no mom, no dad, just a living experiment. frustrated with the pressure of her existence, to be the mother of her race, hiding in the academy, old, having failed to reproduce, is there still time? did she let down her race? drama scripts write themselves!nope. Klingon mom, next!
>>216782032Close. I reached that episode and DID skip the rest of that fucking garbage.
>>216778322Neat. Another man to add to my pantheon of righteously pissed of guys like the Despot of Antrim.
>>216782032>musical episode>Klingons sing a genre of modern Earth music that never existed on Trek's Earth due to the eugenics wars>they don't sing Klingon OperanuTrek will never be good.
>>216782222This would make sense if it were only about the money, but why do they keep doubling down on the same garbage even when these shows fail miserably?
>>216782410to own the chuds, obviously
>>216776717Upper management at any given call center.
>>216782410Too bad, they signed the contract, so Alex gets to single-handedly make Star Trek whatever he wants.Though the final season of Picard was done by someone else, not kurtzman, and even though I still hate seeing it stuck with the same terrible design, it was a significant improvement in terms of characters, story & dialogue, & threw a ton of kurtzmans angsty teenage boy shlock out.
>>216782522Oddly specific. Would you like to know about the average front desk reception staff at the average HVAC company? Or perhaps the average Ops & Merch managers at a retail bookstore.
>>216781506Well, put it this way: if that were indeed their goal, it would explain better than anything else not only what they've produced but why they've kept on producing it - in defiance of all financial sense, if nothing else - for years. I think it's also the simplest explanation. But a lot of people prefer to chalk it up to incompetence or remain "baffled" rather than entertain the possibility, since that would lead them down a path they'd rather avoid.
>>216776717Who cares? Why is anyone watching this trash?
>>216776717By the founders, im cutting back your rations of white. You've CLEARLY been getting too much.
you only need to watch season 3 of picard (the tng reunion season), skip all other nu trek
Gen X'ers got it lucky...
>>216776717>oh no this canonically diverse universe is being canonically diverse!!!fucking grow up, you literal faggot
>>216776717>LatelyThere hasn't been any Star Trek in twenty years so nothing is going on with Star Trek lately
Funny how I avoid Nu Trek like the plague because I don't want to listen to barely disguised news headlines masquerading as storylines.Basically, I want escapism in my Star Trek, but they refuse to give that anymore, so unless it's from the 60-90s, I don't want to give it a try.
>>216777312>>216777379In Star Trek II McCoy gave Kirk a pair of reading glasses because he was allergic to some drug that cures eyesight. This was the 23rd century. By the time of this new shit show it would have been solved most likely.
>>216783136>filenamelel
>>216777312
At least Star Wars got Andor out of the new gay era, wheres ours? Is Picard s3 the best of Gay Trek? (I gave up at s1 ep6)
>>216784942Picard S3 is about an inch away from being the worst season of that show, only beaten by so much of S2 being completely boring wheel spinning for the majority of it's run
>>216784942I get that Star Trek is also in a really dire position but it is so funny how Star Wars fags think getting a decent show after show and movie and show and movie of constant franchise rape makes up for anything.
>>216776748Another trek anon took the advice of Lord Humongous? I did as well.
>>216776717Have we reached the point were Star Trek has been shit longer than it was ever good?
>>216779359I see the curse that was the old CW lives on.
>>216779359i love how the only white male is obviously homosexual and the only white female is hugging a mutt, who i'm guessing is super intelligent and sensitive
>>216779359I wish it was painful for someone to be so wrong, even as a troll. Shove your head in a woodchipper because you imagine a "Chud" somewhere wouldn't like it.One look at OP's pic and I know Star Trek isn't for me anymore. The well of creative stories is dry, and shoving ugly people and drama into its empty ruins won't make Star Trek good again.
>>216784942lol, Andor is STD to Star Wars' TNG. Literally garbage with little to no relation to the source material.
>>216785179lmao
>>216785179It has issues but it's watchable, has characters, is produced competently, unlike everything else from Disney Wars.
>>216779359For me, its Zesty, son of Buck
NuTrek is basically just Nemesis mashed with a parody understanding of what TOS was.Star Trek largely died with Nemesis, people want to pretend the rot set in with Into Darkness and Discovery otherwise but it's true, the TNG movies are straight up NuTrek tier and Nemesis is 100% something that would have come out in the NuTrek era.>>216781673It's more that modern politics is broken, on the right you have retards like MAGA, TPUSA etc who pretty much spout the opposite of reality on almost any material economic/power structure concept and on the left, you have the Democrat woke brigade who think that 150,000 genders and biological sex isn't real and there is trans genocide and white people are inherently evil etcClassic Trek was written by people who actually saw what real Communists were like, and they were serious, military, high culture people, so that is what Star Trek was, what if the USSR that existed in Soviet propaganda, actually existed. Today Progressiveness is VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO and woke bullshit, so that is what Trek is.>>216782222It just pisses me out of so many shows, they did not fucking try even once to make a Star Trek show in the original style, just to see if the market was there for an actual fucking Star Trek show.
>>216776717Gem Ham'dar
>>216785828>Today Progressiveness is VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO"vote blue no matter who" is centrist rubbish. centrists demand it and never offer it in return
>>216777312Kirk wore reading glasses during the movies. It's implied everyone else just got surgery to correct it and by TNG glasses had fallen out of style.
>>216782529In fairness, it wasn't Kurtzman who started Nu Trek awfulness.Discovery S1 was Bryan Fuller and S2 was Gretchen Berg and Aaron Harberts.NuTrek universe is the creation of Fuller. I think honestly it's just a problem with modern writers. Did you watch that DS9 documentary where they did a pitch for S8 of DS9? It's S31 bullshit, Bashir runs S31 and kills Nog, Jem Hadar now follow the Bajoran religion, S31 wants to kill the Bajoran religion so Bajor can join the federation despite the Federation... doesn't ban religion like look at Vulcan ffs and a bunch of other modern TV nonsense that makes no sense in Trek.
>>216777312From the same time period, Daniels just straight up says he does it because he thinks they're neat
>>216785828What gets me is how instead of the writers adapting their ideas to work in Star Trek, they adapt Star Trek to work with their ideas. Like why is Tilly anxious? Why is Raffie poor? Why do Federation citizens have money concerns? Why couldn't Picard's mother receive healthcare? Why did Picard's father betray the 12 Colonies by banging a Cylon? Why did they kill off the diverse Cylon security officer in the fourth episode of Discovery?Instead of being an optimistic future where we all could live comfortable fulfilling lives, it's just like today only with more gizmos. It's why I roll my eyes whenever a shitlib says "the Federation isn't socialist/communist/technocratic! They got their society thanks to advanced technology™" failing to realise that the advanced technology we have today isn't exactly saving the labour it was sold to us as being capable of. To them, there are no economic questions because "muh End of History" canard, and because they don't understand material conditions and relations to the means of production, the futures they 'imagine' look an awful lot like today.
>>216785876It's the same reason Picard is bald.
>>216776717They put the HR department in charge of entertainment
>>216785731jej
>>216785731oh noo... oh no no no
>>216785996>live in post scarcity utopia>smoke space weed in a trailer
>>216787179One of the easiest media literary tests there is that smooth brains consistently failShe wasn't poor, she was deliberately living a shitty existence because she was a depressed self harming wreck. She was living freely with all needs and wants provided in a little house in a picturesque former national park, she could have left and done anything else at any time, except the one thing she wanted to do which was permanently cut off from her.
>>216782120>dominion creates race of loyal warriors>even make them genetically addicted to a drug the dominion can create for even more control>hmmmm, we should make a womyn variation/make our loyal fellas able to breed with random aliensGoes against everything the jem'hadar was created for.
>>216787419It's been at minimum 815 years since the Dominion lost the war against the Alpha Quadrant and had Odo reintegrate with them
>>216776717i hate these fat actors and these stupid uniforms. i can't complain about the menopausal middle aged captain with the glasses because it should work if done correctly, but i just know the character will be a charisma void.who even watches this shit aside from some mindbroken redditors?
>>216787419>make our loyal fellas able to breed with random aliens>Goes against everything the jem'hadar was created for.that. Dax's buddy told here there are no female Jen'Hadar, which implies they are all males (and thus um... "fully functional" to quote Data) but they also said Jem'Hadar are birthed in chambers, implying they cannot breed on their own (and that does, indeed, make sense)>>216781741I already said it was an "interesting opportunity" setup for a character. they could even give her a sympathetic Founder science pal (her "mom??" that "created" her) who is upset she doesn't have kids yet... so many stories just write themselves outta that setup!Imma be so upset when it's just yawn Klingon Mom, Jem'Hadar dad...
>>216782222I think the fundamental misunderstanding these people have about nerd properties is that nerds are concerned with what's cool, and nerds don't have a built in tendency to care about and get invested in the old stuff, since an interest in history, and an interest in collecting are also nerd hobbies.The kids going to night clubs, and doing E's aren't your audience. Never were, and never will be.
>>216777285Hey, Lower Decks was pretty good.
>>216787582The part Klingon thing isn't speculation, the markings on her uniform are Klingon
Lower Decks is shit.NuTrek is not Star Trek.
>>216787883>How do you do fellow kids? We too enjoy acknowledging that our series doesn't make sense.Doesn't that get old?
>>216787889Founder science "Mom": I made you a Jem'Hadar![Female Jem'Hadar]: b-but, I identify as a Klingon! my children are the kids I teach, isn't that good enough for you! [shrouds, crying noises recede into the distance]Founder: get back here and give me some real Jem'Hadar children already!!!
>>216787388>She wasn't poorExcept she was, marketer.
>>216776717Trek is getting good again. It was good in the 60s 70s early 80s. Then starting with TNG a senile Roddenberry and his team of sensitive lefty low T males made 20 years of dull, preachy workplace dating sims.Then JJ made movies, and Alex made series to bring us back into the light.
>>216787388>She wasn't poor, she was deliberately living a shitty existenceAnd yet she complained bitterly about Picard living in a chateau, and he grovelled and apologised to her, exactly as if she were indeed poor and Picard was an evil 1%er. And at no point did any character say or even imply that her situation was her fault. That's just your head canon, deployed in defence of a show created by someone who - around this time - openly stated he wanted to use Star Trek as a "platform" to "bring greater awareness" of causes and organisations such as BLM. The simplest explanation - and the correct explanation - is that they just didn't give a flying fuck about maintaining continuity with previous Trek, or even internal continuity.And this is all aside from the issue of them flat-out identifying the location as "Vasquez Rocks" on screen, as if to deliberately ruin immersion in previous episodes of (actual) Trek shows. At best that was another instance of them leaning pathetically on memberberries.
>>216788839Picard threw away his career on a "my way or the highway" threat and destroyed hers in the process. She's not pissed that he's 'rich', she's pissed that he torpedo'd her life and just strolled off to his other fancy hobby with no regard for the wreckage he left behind
>>216788062>Then JJ made movies, and Alex made series to bring us back into the light.
>>216788839Also, why would that vaping lesbian want to rejoin a throughly corrupted organisation that booted her out just for being associated with Picard/coming up with a plan to save billions of lives (or hundreds of millions, or tens of millions - the number kept changing)? A plan which, incidentally, implied the Romulan Star Empire lacked the resources to transport its own citizens within its own borders... which makes zero sense. I could keep going, but the show was so utterly, retardedly nonsensical in almost every respect that analysing it is like treating a toddler smearing shit on a wall as an artist.
>>216776769black female*
>>216788951>She's not pissed that he's 'rich'Actual dialogue from that episode:>I saw you, sitting back in your very fine chateau. Big oak beams, heirloom furniture. I'd show you around my estate, but it's more of a hovel, so that would just be, you know, humiliating.
>>216779359>two black guys are coded as straight and in a relationship with two women>one white guy is coded faggothmm.
>>216778377Star Trek is a leftist franchise.
>>216776932gold post award kek
>>216789191They explained that elsewhere. The Romulans cultural shit of constant suspicion and mistrust lead them to ignore the warning signs and stall themselves into inaction for a long time, until the Federation detected the problem from afar and basically forced the issue. So the effort started too late, was delayed further by the Tal Shiar (Laris and her husband specifically lived with him on Earth because they're exiles for siding with him over the Tal Shiar when they tried to undermine evacuations) before the Zhat Vash destroyed the effort entirely.
>>216784643That alien lady wasn't part of the federation, and her planet was technologically behind the federation by a big margin
>>216787388She literally whinges that Picard has antique furniture ffs.
>>216789411>They explained that [why the Romulans couldn't/wouldn't evacuate their own people] elsewhereNo they didn't. This is your head canon again. If you think I'm wrong, point me to the episode and scene where this is explained. While you're at it, perhaps you can explain why the number of Romulans requiring evacuation changes from "900 million" (little more than 10% of the Earth's population) to "billions" to "tens of millions" (the last two within the same scene). And perhaps you can also explain why the "synths" destroying Utopia Planetia resulted in the destruction of Picard's entire evacuation fleet, even though the evacuation was already under way.And perhaps you can explain why (though this one's on JJ) nobody knew the Romulan star was about to go nova until shortly before it did, why the explosion of a single star threatened to destroy the entire galaxy, and why said insanely powerful explosion didn't result in the creation of a black hole (Spock had to create one to "absorb" it).Alternatively, you could just concede that nutrek is merely a toddler smearing shit on a wall.
>>216787883Lower Decks is sadly the best modern ST by a mile. Just by virtue of actually feeling like it takes place in the ST universe.It's just a shame it's a mostly unfunny comedy.
>>216790013It's trash and you're a cuck if you make excuses for it
>>216787883It's dogshit
>>216781943no
>uses the term "media literacy" in his ST:P defense, a series where constant last minute rewrites left giant plot holes
>>216782529>it was a significant improvement in terms of characters, story & dialogue, & threw a ton of kurtzmans angsty teenage boy shlock outdid we watch the same show? it was yet more of the same borg shit, angst, senseless violence, and cgi slop
>>216785039nah, give it another 10-20 yearsgood trek was late 1960's-2005
>>216786218being bald isnt a disability
>>216787179Did she not know how to use a replicator?
i wonder how they'll manage to make the borg the enemy againmaybe they assimilated the bad guy's penis
>>216790836Oh yes it is. Just like being short or needing glasses or having rheumatoid arthritis or needing a hearing aid. It's a mild disability
>>216791334no. the ship having an earthquake and the captain being unable to see clearly because her dumb s.o.y.lennial glasses flew off is a dumb contrivance
>>216791200The twist this time is that the Borg need help defending themselves from a species that is assimilating THEM!
>>216791374TWOK had glasses as well
>>216785996>instead of the writers adapting their ideas to work in Star Trek, they adapt Star Trek to work with their ideasThis is what happens when everyone in Hollywood is assigned to existing IPs instead of being allowed to create something new. Ruining what was once good is just a perk for the (((producers))).
>>216776717They doubled down on their "DEI at all costs and fans WILL sit there and take current-day social lectures" course that the slimy Alex Kurzman keeps it on. Never mind that star Trek is pretty much a dead brand now because of him.
isn't this a nutrek thread by virtue of the op image? rant rave seethe!
How does Star Trek shit keep getting greenlit with Kurtzman at the helm. Who watches this shit
>>216791334Nta, but no. Having no money is a disability.I know a rich guy who is a total idiot, but his parents had money, so he has money. He has a hot wife too. Remember, his IQ is probably 90 at best.
>>216791873The executives who greenlight this shit don't care about quality or Star Trek
>>216785828>Star Trek was based on Communism>Written by USN veteran who loved US cowboy and pioneer stories>They are literally the descendants of the USA>But Star Trek was somehow about communism ideal end stateLmaoing at your gay life
>>216776932>Jemimahadar
>>216792043Nta, but Gene Roddenberry was insane and possibly worshiped Satan. He even told an interviewer that he did it all for the devil. Look it up.He was on hard drugs all the time.
Reading up about how Voyagers doctor was involved in this.Hear rumours all his ideas got shot down by the woke liberal women/gays and black writers.Apparently everyone of his ideas was ignored and he just sat there in board meetings doing nothing.This shit comes along and pretty much proves he was pushed to one side for their lgbtq+P agenda
>>216792188>Nta, but Gene Roddenberry was insane and possibly worshiped Satan. He even told an interviewer that he did it all for the devil.my nigga
>>216776717The people in charge of the franchise hate and despise Star Trek and Roddenberry's vision of the future. Berman and Braga might have been clinically retarded most of the time but at least they liked and respected what Star Trek was. Kurzman and his lackey's just want to tear it down and fill it with cynicism.
>>216792463Worked for Star Wars. Last I checked SW was literally a California neighborhood with scooters.
>>216790013I would say Prodigy season 1 is better
>>216783640Imagine leaving in the final season of a series because you want to go do some shitty sitcom with a 50 year old Ted Dansen.
>>216785828It was DS9 and Ira Behr that opened the door. That was the first show that tried to undermine the Roddenberry ideals and dirty up the Federation/make humans into hypocrites that never changed or fixed their social problems but instead are just larping from their ivory towers.
>>216792595It was because Rick Berman wanted to fuck her and she did not. Same thing happened to the chick that played Tasha.
wtf does the story line waffle between "we gave up the concept of money" to all sorts of examples of money being awhile-and-well? shit's annoying.
>>216792675The whole no money thing has always fallen apart the moment they have to deal with other races. Then the Federation does have money and they do pay their workers.
>>216792675
>>216776717Lately? This shit's been going for almost 20 years now
>>216776717Rampant faggotry. Next question?
>>216793502
>>216776717Whenever you see this at a government office or place of business you know it's going to be unpleasant.
>>216794146
>>216790473it didn't say it wasn't trash. I said it's by far the best modern ST.
>>216792043the only "communist" parts of Star Trek are the implied one world government, and lack of money. Both of which weren't properly established until after TOS, and if anything were just bog standard futurism for the time.I don't think there's any implication that people can't start a business or live their own lives freely in Star Trek. They just wouldn't be making money, because replicators have completely nullified the need for it.
>>216792666frankly when done intelligently, testing the boundaries of the ST universe is good, because the ST universe is kind of ridiculous, and was dreamed up by people high on their own farts. The Federation are incredibly pompus, when viewed from a particular angle, and DS9 was based for leaning into that.The problem with modern ST isn't "le cynical". The problem is it's shit. It's unintelligently written, and makes no effort to feel like it's even in the ST universe.It's also written by the kinds of people who probably think DS9 was good because it was "dark", which also isn't the point. DS9 is good because it's clever.
>>216792675they obviously just didn't really think through the money thing. It was supposed to sound futuristic. >wowie, all of their material needs are met!No effort was ever made to explain how Earth even functions.
>>216776717>lately
>>216781741I'm not the biggest DS9 fan but do love like the Domion War ideas, Sisko and Garrack's false flag, etc. and was always pissy as fuck the franchise never fully reckoned with the aftermath of that war in a kino manner. Like Fed-Romulus relations as one example cause they fucking blew the latter up. I toyed with the idea that we see Jem'Hadar reemerging as mooks but reluctantly because after the war they did get sick of the Founders but a faction of them basically held their species to servitude with the fact that they have biologically female Jem'Hadar on ice, i.e. the males can breed with the females and they actually become a real species. You have begrudging Jem servitude after they have internalised the fact that the founders are shits because they yearn to be an actual race like the ones they encountered and fought and ended up respecting in the Alpha Quadrant
>>216781943The first season was, at best, promising; it wasn't good, but it COULD be good because the casting was okay and the finale was unusually strong. But no, it's pretty fucking bad.
>>216794547Yes, but how is the power generated for these replicators? And why wouldn't that cost money, or otherwise be subject to the laws of economics?
>>216794759more replicators
>>216776717>latelyI'm afraid it's been.... 21 years.
>>216794639So, if DS9 is a sendup of traditional trek mores... wouldn't that make it nutrek?
>>216794765So, perpetual motion? Star Trek has defeated the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Spoiler alert: you're an idiot.
>>216794772No, because Nu-Trek is written by abject retards who want to turn it into something more akin to an action movie franchise, or Halo.They're equally bad when they're trying to do "hopeful" Star Trek. They don't get that either. Then it just turns into tumblr bloggers in space.
>>216776769Jemhadar comes from a Jeet word for Sargeant.Ferengi is Urdu for foreigner.
>>216794789it was a joke, bro. Take a chill pill.
>>216776717Jews
>>216794818>Ferengi is Urdu for foreignerIt's Persian. I say this because you'll note that Ferengi worldbuilding seems to be based on whatever refugee/expatriate community is most entrepreneurial in the LA region about 5 or so years after their arrival. In the mid 80s that would have been the Iranians fleeing the refugees. In the very early 90s that would have been the Ethiopians fleeing the famine and junta. "Negus" is the traditional word for the emperor of Ethiopia. LA has the largest Persian and Ethiopian populations in the US.
>>216794829So now you're saying Star Trek is a joke? It'd have to be, if it claims there's no need for money, yet can't explain where all the free energy comes from.
>>216795301Nta, but if they have warp speed and phasers that can de-atomize anything in their path, I'd say that they conquered other worlds and took the spoils.
>>216792672revisionist historyshe wanted more money, becker offered moresimple as thatBecker now only exists as a Butters joke in an early season south park episode
>>216795365So Star Trek is about violent conquest? I guess it's a utopia only for them, not so much for anyone unfortunate enough to get in their way.
>>216794722>You have begrudging Jem servitude after they have internalized the fact that the founders are shits because they yearn to be an actual race like the ones they encountered and foughtyeah that was never explored after that episode, the fact that there could exist Jem'Hadar that "wanted out" (and Sisko rightfully pondered if that would be worse!)and they never followed-up on that one guy that no longer needed the white. (he was obviously bad-ass enough to survive)my idea would be the female Jem'Hadar would be a unique ancient relic, found and [revived? science'd?] the character arc would end in the Founder breaking down with guilt/shame for what they did to the race, and the desperation to have her "daughter" correct the Founder's mistakes... such a shame we get lame Klingon mom nonsense...
>>216791873Rumor has it that like Kennedy and Star Wars, Kurtzman negotiated a lengthy contract that has a poison pill clause in it that says Paramount has to pay him a huge chunk of money if they terminate early. Meaning it's cheaper to let him destroy Trek than to pay him to fuck off
>>216776717Women, niggers, etc.
>>216785731I keep forgetting to make a splitscreen with him and the democrat guy wearing a skirt with an erection at the microphone.
At this point it's not even raping a dead franchise, I don't even know what you'd call it. Star Trek is getting it the worst of all of them, it's getting it so bad that people don't even talk about how bad it's getting it. They'll talk about how Star Wars is over but Star Trek is such a catastrophy people fear bringing it up with bring those bad vibes into their lives, poison them, bring miseryIt's real bad. I shouldn't have come here.
>>216785731>yall don't say shit about dis skirt or else yall gonna be like darmok and jalad at tanagra niggaaaaaaaaaa
>>216787883This animation is shit.>cat or whatever is in front of black chick>cut puts him behind her
>>216789343That's what I said.
>>216792043it really resembles soviet scifi but with a touch of americanism
>>216776932incredible
>>216776717Interesting concept putting an a jem'hadar in statfleet leadership, did it have to be a sheeboon tho?
>>216787883this ironic detachment from the source material is genuinely nauseating
>>216796735The camera viewpoint changed, dumbass. In the 2nd shot's frame, the 1st shot's camera is on the right, looking left, so Freeman and T'Ana remain in spatial order. You're a living Dunning-Kruger downward spiral.
>>216797569So, you take Star Trek very, very seriously, even though it's just a campy Communist kids' show?
Good job letting a schizo hijack /trek/
>>216797629NTA, but Star Trek isn't always campy, features communism with replicators (a crucial distinction) and is never just for kids.
>>216797942It's not all that, but it's mostly that.
>>216797942Campy? Not tonally, no. There's typically a lot of serious problem-solving going on.
>>216798059Meant to reply to >>216797982
>>216776717
>>216776748There'll never be any more good Star Trek ever again*. But I realised this and passed through to the acceptance stage years ago. Now I don't feel anything, aside from the sort of mild, fleeting curiosity one might experience when driving past a wrecked vehicle.*At least as long as jews remain in charge
>>216776932i don't get it
>>216779359rents due for some budget cuts at the studio.
>>216785996There arent farmers in Earth because everybody create food and other objects using Replicators.There are holograms working in mines.There arent other jobs outside of Starfleet and Space Stations
>>216799329Sisko's dad and several other characters specifically remark about replicated food tasting different than "real food"
>>216799352He's just playing it up with his unc boom banter.He seemed like an uncle Tom character willing to be a servant out of principle.
>>216785996That's because they just slap star Trek on their stories. They don't know anything about trek except what they can learn in a 2 minute wiki read so they can't write a Star Trek story
>>216792043Gene was a Maoist according to Majel "Gene supported Communism, of the chinese variety".Either way it's confirmed the world becomes Communist with the New World Economy around the end of WW3 and when Vulcans show up. Also Technology is NOT why Earth becomes Communist. The New World Economy comes in when Earth's economy is in complete and total fucking dogshit after WW3, Replicators don't exist until the 24th century, they didn't even exist in the TOS/TMP era. Earth becomes Communist because of Vulcans and the fact that it just went through essentially 2 world wars after the other (Eugenics War then a couple decades later WW3)
why would the founders give the jem'hadar reproductive organs in the first place? they are born by cloning. they don't need dicks.we also know that the founders "control" over the jemhadar was overstated, hence the need for the ketracel while. but apparently jemhadar can just fuck other species and have half-jemhadar kids who aren't addicted to the white?
My suggestion to save Star Trek?Cast Jenna Ortega in a lead role.
>>216798601Aunt Jemima is a famous sheboon icon in the unig-ted states of america
>>216799627Vulcans don't have hammerhead eyes
>>216799531Genetic mutation still happens even with a genetically modified species. That's why some Jem'Hadar were still able to produce the enzymes in Ketracel White naturally. Besides, having testicles produces testosterone (or whatever the Jem'Hadar equivalent would be)
>>216799627the heels ruin it
>>216799770jemhadar have no need for dicks, as would be required to reproduce with another species like klingons, because they don't reproduce sexually. they don't even need a dick/cloaca because their sustenance comes from the white.a mutation that causes them to create ketracel white on their own is a lot different than one that creates an entire set of organs from nothing
why the hell are you even entertaining the idea? it's subersive retarded nutrek contempt for the source material
>>216776932Still doing lots of drugs at least
>>216799531Because Star Trek's writers are full of bioessentialist fascists can't comprehend constructivist bioengineering concepts
>>216791842it made more sense for them to exist there, not 1,200 years in the future
>>216792666lol no
>>216776717See Star Trek was left wing but it was still made in a time where you could cast women because they were hot, now leftism moved on to body types and all that.
>>216776717>What the hell is going on in Star Trek lately??The logical conclusion of "just let people enjoy things" entryism.
>>216776717https://youtu.be/VtyKtEC2W20?si=axVvW8VzdXK9bIeN
it is going to be interesting to see how they seperate personality and culture from race with this nig'hadar abomination.not that ill be watching, of course
It's because of the Nerd's Gambit. Back in the day, you were a faggot and excluded if you were a big fan of things deemed even inherently "dorky". The people who grew up enjoying those things ended up becoming massive homos who hated Chads for bullying them so now they have an alliance with anyone but them.See:>Star Wars>Star Trek>Doctor Who>etc.
>>216802221A Jem'Hadar schoolmarm>Passing grades are life. From this moment you are all failures.
>>216792188He probably drugged himself late-war Hitler-style by the time TNG rolled out, but I still think he was onto something good with his general vibes.
>>216799468The Borg are a big-scathing criticism of Maoist/Marxist-style collectivism though. Given the way Star Trek was written, he clearly didn't see the far left to be the path of enlightenment when one of the few named in the execution of WWIII during the backstory was a malthusian environmentalist.
>>216785216Nah, your generic sci-fi story has no place in the fantasy world of Star Wars.
People won’t want to hear it but this is the natural consequence of going from the astronaut-coded (humanity’s finest striking a new frontier) OS to the wagie-coded (just a guy you work with but an alien) TNG and particularly DS9. While that was novel and allowed for some good stories in the hands of a quality if hit-and-miss writing team, it’s fundamentally incompatible with the grandeur of boundary-pushing sci-fi.
>>216785828It’s become impossible to have an actual societal discussion about politics, so of course there’s no understanding of it.
>>216785731>it was literally a handful of TNG episodes that male extras had to wear the womens outfits because they had no mens left>commies claiming the show was always progressive and woke so it must always triple down on itI mean i get it, you have to lie because your ideology does not work outside of your over moderated sub redit but still. This is just pathetic.
>>216803688>male extras had to wear the womens outfits because they had no mens leftyou don't really believe that do you?
>>216803688the show was always progressive, but there was a layer of abstraction and indirection that made it better because it couldn't take an object-level position on most real-world issues. it had to show you a fictional situation involving fictional groups of people and then get you to think about them in terms of universal principles that also apply to the real world.occasionally they broke this rule and tried to talk directly to the real world and those episodes are usually regarded as notoriously bad.
>>216785139There is not a White person in that pic. Mongrels and browner.
>>216804297Don’t be racist.
>>216804316Stop using invented jewish words created to stifle freedom of White thought.
>>216804358You quit acting like a schlemiel and a schmuck.
>>216776717>>216803935It's simpler then that. If you look at the lead writers of Nu-Trek, none of them have any Sci-Fi writing experience. Previous shows like ToS/TNG had writers who wrote Sci-Fi novels or for other shows like the Twilight Zone. This obviously was an intentional move. Nobody gave a damn about the faggot bitch shit if the Sci-Fi was good before pic rel. Modern trek is effectively drama with a sci-fi skin.
>>216804684at what point did they stop accepting random scripts anyone could send in? did it start and end with TNG?
>>216785731LOLwho the fuck is this show for
>>216776717Trannies
>>216804761Bluesky users
>>216804884This
>>216804947Just say furries.
>>216805030I meant troons. Not all furries are troons.
>>216805138Yes they are.
>>216804684Example. In what universe does this resume make sense for a lead writer/creator of the most popular Sci-Fi property
>>216776717Popular franchise mainly enjoyed by white males taken over by talentless woketards and mutated into an abomination. Happens all the time.
>>216799795>the heels ruin it
The heels ruin it.
T H E H E E L S R U I N I THEHEELSRUINIT
>>216792043Stalin himself loved Cowboy movies and would stay up all night watching them.
Hey all you all Cocksuckers you better Fucking watch this show and give it a Fucking chance! You might actually Fucking like it if you just give it a chance to be good and hit its stride! They literally already gave you absolutely everything you asked for with Star Trek: Strange New Worlds! You Fucking said you loved Anson Mount as Captain Pike so they built an entire show around him!
>>216805632Implying I ever thought anything in STD was good. Reddit Pike is cringe.
>>216805632True they gave us a white male captain in SNW but they forgot to make him straightI shan't be watching
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>>216798568Why won't there be any good Star Trek ever again? Paramount has been bought by Skydance, which is run by Larry Ellison, who is a Trump supporter. Perhaps he wrapped up SNW so that they can create a real Trek series. Ever thought of that?
>>216799795>high heels ruin womenur gay
>>216806385Heels suck
>>216776717it started with deep space nineTHEREI SAID IT
>>216806483TRVTH NVKE
>>216789343I can't fully articulate it, but there is something wildly different from 90's progressive ideology and whatever the hell this shit is today. Maybe it's something along the lines of in the 90s we had this idea that we might be able to all walk hand in hand to build a brighter future together. Now sometimes around post 2010ish the left wants to kill all the white people. I don't know. Something like that.
>>216807014Modern woke shit is written as ragebait
>>216806353He’ll just let Kurtzman ruin it more
>>216807014Obama unleashed this on the world.
>>216797594>cat whatever is nowhere near a door>suddenly 1 foot or less from itShould have made him fall backwards for it to makes sense, but i guess retards will defend it regardless
>>216807452Yea, the only thing the big shot trump supporters care about is using him to create the AI police nanny state they all want. They know they can get the goyim on their side if they pretend to give a shit about stopping wokeslop.
>>216807014The wokeists won when gay marriage was pushed through. There was nothing left after that, just bullshit issues no one really cared about like women earning x cents on the dollar even though that was a complete myth. The next logical step was going back go class warfare. Then you had occupy Wallstreet, which spooked the powers that be so much that they starting funding/amplifying every troonytoon extremist view to force identity politics back. That's when you started hearing about white privilege, microaggressions, blm, etc. Leftist politics is no longer egalitarian in any way, it is literal insanity.
>>216782032i remember reading the ds9 episode companion and one of the head writers said they always wanted to do a musical episode but never found the time for it
>>216807716The door was clipped out of the frame by the camera position, dumbass. Are you unclear about spatial reality or something?
>>216807900It's a drawing they fucked up, he moved ten feet back towards the door between cuts. Why are you riding this shows dick so hard? You know there isn't actually a camera there, but you're talking like you want them to be real and fuck the cat guy?
>>216776932
>>216807944Ugh, you're just spiraling off into insanity. You're wrong, you're obviously wrong, and there's no getting through to you.
>>216807743Exactly
>>216807972What is this from
>>216778595excellent comment
>>216809214You don't recognize Pokémon? You need to leave.
>>216779359>diversity means everyone acts and behaves and thinks exactly the same way no matter what they look likei'm tired, bros
>>216776717the shows world is literally a socialist fantasy utopia with replicators that can make anythingwhat did you think was gonna happen when the internet got a hold of it?
>>216809291I don’t watch Chinese novelty cartoons
>>2168093534chan is an anime site. If you don't know anime, you need to leave.
