Every single David Lynch fan I’ve ever encountered in my life genuinely believed that liking David Lynch films somehow makes them “smart”, even though they have no impressive abilities or actual real life accomplishments that a high IQ person would be expected to have. “Appreciating” avant garde films, music or art is a cope for people of average intelligence so they can tell themselves they’re “high IQ” in some way. >“haha, you got filtered! you just didn’t GET it!”Then let’s see if any Lynch fans can explain what, precisely, there is to “get” about his deliberately weird and meaninglessly disorienting films. Warning: You better all “get” it in the same exact way, because if you have different interpretations then that will mean there is no objective answer and you weren’t actually “understanding” any deeper meaning this whole time. Be very careful how you answer, otherwise the years you have spent cultivating this pretentious fake personality will all be for nothing.
I'm a retard and love lynch movies
>>216829058Lynch is McSurrealism for Americans that have never heard of Salvador Dali or Luis Buñuel
>>216829058It's not a matter of smart. It's a matter of being able to appreciate art on a different level. You don't get it.
>>216829093Lynch is better than Dali or Buneul and I'm tired of pretending he isn't.
>>216829058You sound incredibly insecure
>I got bootyblasted by some meaningless shityawn
>>216829058Lynch movies are not about intelligence, they are more "felt" that analyzed. They are a vibe. There's nothing clever about them and nobody thinks that liking them makes you smarter becauase there is barely anything to explain. You are likely projecting
>words words wordsCope. You got filtered
>>216829058A movie or a show isn't a puzzle to be solved. There's not a secret answer that that brilliant director hides away only for the most clever and dedicated fans to find. They make it and put it out into the world, and then it's out of their hands. The audience comes to it in whatever state they're in, watching in a theater or on a television or their phone or whatever. Maybe they're sleepy or high or hungry or they just got into a new relationship or etc. They come to it in some unique place in their lives, seeing it in a way that's at least a little different than anyone else around them in the theater or anywhere else in the world, forward and backward through time. What it means, then, is purely individualized in each seperate viewing.
That is not true. You said this before and I explained how his movies are simple and straightforward and that this doesnt mean I'm particularly smart. Protip: if something weird is happening in a movie that the characters consider weird, the movie isnt about weird random things
I like experimental and avantgarde films and music because I'm not some low IQ prole. And it DOES make me interesting.
>>216829093Europeans funded all of his later movies and Twin Peaks the Return was a tv show ranked as one of the best movies by Sight and Sound in the UK.
>>216829058I like Blue Velvet. That one's genuinely great.
>>216829318Frecnhies really bought into him being an auteur.They went gaga over Mulholland Drive because of the lesbian sex scenes. Pathetic pretentious coomers
If you create """art""" with enough ambiguity, you leave plenty of room for the pseud to huff their own farts over it. Normgroids desperately crave some random faggot to provide them a nudge of existential validation and divert their attention away from their meaningless existence. You could give them a literal pile of shit wrapped in gold leaf and they would call it 'deep' and 'beautiful' just to feel something.
>>216829351>Frechnies
>>216829378Yeah but David Lynch’s movies were really good
if your reaction to a great artist is to get defensive about your place in the world, big ngmi
>>216829058>Every single David Lynch fan I’ve ever encountered in my life genuinely believed that liking David Lynch films somehow makes them “smart”i love DL and have never met a single person like this. if anything, ive met the exact opposite as DL fans tend be feels > reals guys (which is indeed the truth)
>>216829378But the meanings of Lynch's films aren't that obscure or difficult to understand. Just because a film is ambiguous, doesn't mean it's a Rorschach test.
>>216829058One person isn't large enough to have an issue about. I could see all his movies in weeks, not years.
>>216829400>AI lynch memeyou are peak fucking bugman
>>216829058>Every single David Lynch fan I’ve ever encountered in my life genuinely believed that liking David Lynch films somehow makes them “smart”you don't know that, it's impossible for you to know that, but the way you still go ahead and state that as a fact is a demonstration of your own lacking mental faculties and lack of examination of your own thought processes and confusion of feeling and thought, jump off a bridge
>>216829058I realized yesterday that David Lynch was right about everything being absurd.
>>216829099Art is meant to be enjoyed, not “understood”. You aren’t “deep”. Nobody finds you impressive or interesting.
>>216829460you dumb? Lynch is a figurehead of AI atp, get over it gramps
>>216829147No you’re actually the one who is insecure because you force yourself to sit through weird delirious movies and pretend to “get” them, as you plan out the future conversations you will have with people about them in which you can show off your intellectual depth . This shows a tormented, defeated soul crying out in agony for acceptance or recognition
>>216829164So you can’t anctuslly explain what the “point” of Eraserhead is? Cool I didn’t think so either faggot, you could have just said that
>>216829173You better fucking HOPE that this is the consensus interpretation otherwise you got it wrong and your credibility is ruined >Nobody thinks they are “smart for liking them”Very next post >>216829202
>>216829285Then why has nobody ever cared or been interested in what you have to say about these things despite years of you trying to cultivate this persona? If you’re intelligent, then why do you have 0 talent, expertise or creative abilities yourself?
>>216829320>That one's genuinely great.WHY?
>>216829203>>216829058You're unwilling to sincerely engage with the material and require likes and upvotes for external validation, and now it's everyone else's problem, having wasted a thread for it. When receipts are brought to you, you handwave it at your discretion, incapable of discussing the films in their own terms, 'intertextually' -- or in film & art history context. >>216829203Dale Cooper as Detective is literally an audience avatar.
>>216829714Anon, did someone make you watch Inland Empire at gunpoint? No one is forcing you to do anything. You don't have to enjoy his movies. You do sound incredibly insecure and butthurt because you can't wrap your mind around Lynch's directing style. Not everything is for everyone. Stop acting like a little bitch.
>>216829058I'm a David Lynch fan and I'm smarter than you.
>>216829926But you just said there is no objective meaning, so if there’s no meaning then how can there be a subtext to “understand”? UH OH. YOU JUST GOT CAUGHT RED HANDED PRETENDING. YOU ARE A PRETENDER, AND EVERYONE SAW.
>>216829460>>216829693Total pseud annihilation.
>>216829173>They are a vibe.average Lynch fan desu
>>216829961>because you can't wrap your mind around Lynch's directing style.He almost made it through an entire post without signalling his superior intelligence based on being a Lynch fan, but inevitably collapsed. These fags literally CANNOT help themselves
>>216829962Then why do you have no impressive real life accomplishments and need to desperately resort to surrogate activities like “appreciating art” as a way to demonstrate your supposed intelligence in a way that can’t actually be tested or measured? Seems pretty strange to me. That doesn’t seem like something a smart person would have to do..
>>216830033But you are stupid
>>216830033You obviously can't get into it. Where's the lie? I never said you were any less intelligent than anyone else. You simply can't wrap your mind around it. He was inspired by dreams. It's a fluid process. Things take on different meanings to others. That's all. I didn't say you were stupid. You're an insecure shithead lashing out at other anons but that's another story
>>216829058I like the return because it's cool as fuck.
>>216830101sihT
>>216830090No I’m not. I articulated my arguments and clearly explained my reasoning (sign of high intelligence), you expressed disagreement without explaining your reasoning (clinically recognised sign of low intelligence).
>>216830093So I don’t get it…..but also there is nothing to get. You sound confused man. It sounds like this thread did some damage to your sense of self and you’re now spiralling
>>216830101Why?
>>216830175It's almost like most art is open to interpretation or something. People seem different things. That's what most people enjoy about art. There's no right or wrong. You'd think such a smart guy like you would figure that out.
>>216830197It's cool as fuck. Did you not read the post?
>>216830057Aren't you demonstrating your supposed intelligence right now?
>>216830261By making logical and reasoned counter arguments, yes I am, to the degree that is possible within the context of this dialogue
>>216829058I once met David Lynch while working as a ticket scanner at a local Cinemark in semi-rural Pennsylvania.>be me, 18 years old>slow night, reading a book behind the ticket scanning podium>old dude with puffy hair comes walking up with a ticket>david lynch>not 100 percent sure who he is, but have a good idea he’s david lynch>he says “hello” in a david lynch voice>I say hi, scan his ticket, point him to theatre 12>walks away towards the theatre>that was 100 percent David Lynch.>look up pic on my phone>yup that was himPretty boring story but yeah I technically met David Lynch. Have no idea what he was doing in my hometown. He’s from Philadelphia originally so maybe he was just passing through.
>>216830341What you're doing right now is called the Dunning Kruger effect lmao.
>>216830236>most things are open to interpretation No they aren’t. That’s why we have the concept of an “allegory”, a story meant to convey a specific meaning or moral takeaway. You only revert to being this totally subjective “ITS ALL PERCEPTION MAAAAAN” relativist when your attempt to defend Lynch’s work totally collapses. You’re a scared animal, cornered and panicking
>>216830380Did David Lynch rape you in the sizzling summer of 2002?
>>216829400>>216829693>>216829979SAAAAAAAR
>>216830365>accuses me of “demonstrating the Dunning Kruger effect” without understanding that there is also now a burden of proof on him to actually rationally explain HOW I am demonstrating the Dunning Kruger effect, because what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence >ironically demonstrating the Dunning Kruger effect himself in doing this Universally recognised sign of low IQ
I just find stuff like this pretty goofy lookinghttps://youtu.be/amgX_81kEYQ?si=nBsfzWisVLtWmjRa
>>216830423So you were, in fact, taken behind a diner and bent over a dumpster and raped by David Lynch in the sizzling hot summer of 2002?
>>216830578Yup his seething proves it.
>>216830154You’re stupid
>>216829058You've just described every PTA, Nolan, Yorgos fans, etc. Japan arthouse/indies have so much surrealism, it's NBD. Lynch captured a certain "underbelly" of the 50s picket fences suburban America-centric culture, that's it. Seconds 1966 also does this well.
>>216830811Were you also raped by every single director you just named in the sizzling hot summer of whatever year their most popular work came out?
I just feel the vague sensation of joy when watching his films. it doesn't have to be that deep, op.
>>216830860uhh feeling joy doesn't meeean anything
>>216829058How autistic are you?
>>216829084>>216829099>>216829173>>216829203>>216829619>>216829685>>216830025>average Lynch fan desuThis has been every Lynch fan that I've known. There may not be any deeper meaning to it at all - There doesn't have to be. The entire thing is a production. Some people will enjoy the various aspects of that production, others won't. That's okay.
>>216830578It was in 2000 and the factual inspiration for some of the scenes in Mulholland drive
>>216829058I've never seen any of his stuff other than Dune and his appearance in Louis.. Also that video where he says it's Friday or something. I enjoyed all of those things and have no plans on watching anything else he's made except maybe twin peaks I guess.
>>216830899umm why doesn't lynch ever explain twin peaks' tax policies?
>>216829093lol @ this zoomer talking like dali wasn’t a mainstream well known celebrity in America… https://youtu.be/TA7esbxbuLI
>>216830953OH NO NO NO
>>216829058liking David Lynch films somehow makes them “smart”This is a stupid & insecure persons perspective on what those ppl think. First, lynch fans dont think theyre smart BECAUSE they like his films, they already think they're smart bc they overanalyze shit to death, and since Lynch makrs films that lend themselves to endless analysis, they watch and like them. Second, what they think is jot your fucking problem bc it has fuck all to do with you. You are your own person, grow the fuck up and realize other peoples opinions do not no affect you. They might think theyre smart, or dumb, or you're smart or dumb and it doesn't fucking matter one bit in this life. They don’t matter, movies don't matter, opinions dont matter, none of this shit matters. Its not science, its not medicine, its not politics, its baaarely even art, its consumer product made & made to conform to the whims of the most boring stiffs on teams of uncreative studio executives trying to mitigate risk and worried about ROI only. It is at best entertainment writ at a 5th grade level, which is equivalent to a 3rd grade level 30 years ago bc the internet & social media have so stunted the childhood development of two generations, everyone is getting quantifiably dumber. Tine to grow the fuck up chuckles.
>>216831094Nice blog, faggot
>>216829173>nobody thinks that liking them makes you smarter becauase there is barely anything to explainthere are entire multi-hour youtube videos "explaining" the convoluted mess that was TP S3 and insisting that their theory is the only correct one
>>216831163>he’s a coffee and piefagI get it now
>>216829058I don’t believe you.
>>216831179wtf are you talking about retard
>>216830860>>216830899Nah you absolutely considered it deep and meaningful until this thread challenged you to articulate that deep meaning, then you pivoted in real time to this “it doesn’t mean anything, it’s just a vibe!” cope angle. Your refusal to just be honest about this shows really poor character.
>>216831185But you are a Lynch fan who does think it makes you smart. Isn’t that weird how you would respond this way, given that trait about yourself? What’s going on with you psychologically?
>>216831191one NINE NINE
>>216833004I never understood her or that lawyer/property manager plotline
the trick is that "getting it" is the realization that theres nothing to get. he directs to instill emotion, anything else is secondary. he reviewed the reception for a 20 year old tv show over two decades and came to the conclusion that the fans want answers, but what they "need" is fuel for another 20 years of circular discussion.
>>216833350How can you feel emotion over something that’s meaningless
>>216829058Lynched.
Why are zoomers so retarded? Is the education system that bad?
>>216834653Republicans have controlled the government their entire lives and thoroughly gutted education.
>>216830578You really need to kill yourself for your own good. And take all your Lynch fans with you and get them lynched.
I just think they're neat
>>216833350red herrings and mood music is not a recipe for entertainment.
>>216831094>Second, what they think is jot your fucking problem bc it has fuck all to do with you. You are your own person, grow the fuck up and realize other peoples opinions do not no affect you. They might think theyre smart, or dumb, or you're smart or dumb and it doesn't fucking matter one bit in this life. They don’t matter, movies don't matter, opinions dont matter, none of this shit matters.So you feel that people’s opinions on movies don’t matter yet you’re spending your free time on a message which is intended for the discussion of people’s opinions on movies? Sounds like this post shattered you psychologically and you’re now trying to rebuild from the fragments.
>>216834672Nah you thought they were deep and you were smart for liking them like I said. You only changed that stance just now, in this thread.
>>216829058I'm a Lynch fan. I don't feel the need to "get" his films intellectually (as in find a definitive meaning/message behind them). I appreciate them for their aesthetic quality and for how they make me feel. He captures dream logic better than any other director.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_-F-bQpMTk
>>216835863Just stupid, deliberately weird for the sake of being weird and depraved. Stefan Molyneux destroyed David Lynch saying it’s “SOOOO DEEP MAN” to play calm or nice music when something violent or terrible is happening. It’s impressive to dumb people. Lynch’s films are an attack on truth and rationality. People who attack truth have a bad conscience and don’t want to be exposed or found out, so they try to distort reality and people’s perceptions as much as possible
>>216833260She’s saying “911” backwards because she believes that that will discourage the police from investigating her house. She’s a manifestation of Judy, like Sarah, keeping the secret of her broken home from the authorities.Which lawyer/property manager storyline are you thinking of? I can explain that one too.
>>216833350Idiot. If you actually pay attention and trust that every scene is telling you something (which it is, literally every scene in the return is a restatement of the main thesis of the series) you will understand what it’s trying to tell you.
>>216829058i mean, you're right. the truth about film is that 98% of it is just trying to 'go for something'. that's it. there's rarely anything there, it's a passively consumed medium, your weekend supermarket circular is more successful as a piece of wisdom and art. you can tell by comparing someone like a lynch or a kubric to some 00's era no budget DV director. the 'good directors' target look, sound, setting, these sorts of things, hire people that can deliver. they follow shot composition principles instead of just throwing characters and objects at haphazard incongruous places in the frame. do away with all these best practices and the movie isn't all that different from some no budget sack of shit made by joe average. both trash. wes anderson embodies this even more than lynch. he 'knows what he wants'. everything is carefully composed, decorated, blocked, colorized. and it's ultimately a piece of shit. testaments to wasted money, effort, talents applied. into the trash they go.
>>216836551he doesnt get it...
>>216829058Everyone ITT is mad because he's correct.
>>216829385I've been looking for a name for my D&D villains, thanks.
>>216829400Ignoring the low iq pajeets (who are excited about everything technology and scam and worship Elon Musk etc.) i noticed that literally every actually talented person in their media, be it music, art, movie, tv etc. and even in more STEM-focused fields like programming embrace AI and see it as useful tool.It's always faggy redditors and twitter hentai artists that seethe about it.
>>216830965Fat faggot jew askin da real qweschuns
>>216829058>David Lynch >fanDoesn't exist>>216829173>They are a vibeAnd the vibe is "shit", it's disgusting evil garbage
>>216829058>impressive abilities or actual real life accomplishments = high IQ lol
>>216834662Noooooo you have to force other people's children to engage in outmoded mercantile empire social conditioning because... because you just HAVE to okayyyyyy also ass sex and 70 gorrillion genders lmao pay ur taxes
>>216829397No, they weren't. And they aren't movies, they're ads>>216829400Advertisers are the opposite of artists
Lynch fags on suicide watch lol
>>216829173pretty good. though i will argue that there is something "clever" about them in the sense that its all really just a test bed for lynch to fuck around with experimental techniques. >can i make a wrapup season where the main character does nothing for the entirety of it? >can i make the deus ex machina be the cheapest prop i can find like uuuh *rummages the trunk of his car* this gardening glove? man was just fucking around being actually spiteful to his fanbase and they just gobbled it up.
>>216829058First of all, it's enjoyable. I've watched Inland Empire more than 20 times. Most Lynch movies are scarier than horror movies for me and that alone makes them at least enjoyable.You know, you can argue it's actually not a great movie but ''you actually don't enjoy it. you are being pretentious'' is such a shity criticism. That kind of shit was always a fake critisism.
>>216829058Sounds like you got lynched. I like his movies, some more than others, but they are not for everyone. I have no idea what they "mean". I like David Lynch as a person and I like watching his work.You might be right about some fans, but I have noticed more than that a certain type of viewer who doesnt get his stuff and that gets angry at others for claiming to understand it when he cant.
>>216829093bro thinks USicans don't know about melting clocks
>>216834640Nigga what is life
>>216834665You need counseling for your rape trauma
>>216836333Why do you care about what people enjoy? I can't imagine film discussion comes up in your personal life since you don't have any friends.
>>216837042you're brown
>>216829797Not him, but I love Blue Velvet because it's the only one of his weird movies that has coherent plot, usually his films are either not surreal enough or start off with promising premise before devolving into a bunch of poorly connected scenes that makes no sense.
There's nothing to "get" in the sense that you solve the riddles and everything makes sense. But you either "get" it or you don't in that his films are like dreams. When you have a strange dream and you wake up there's always this otherworldly feeling that's impossible to put into words; his films exist in this space. They don't require intelligence, but they do require imagination.
>>216839686The Straight Story, nigga.
>>216838911Because I have to live in society where the ripple effects of bad media worsen my quality of life, in this case Lynch’s films attacking rationality itself
>>216837042Thank you. There is a real malice in these films. Lynch was clearly a person who hates life. He also signed a petition in support of Roman Polanski when he got booked for rape
>>216841166You're an autistic shut-in with no friends, prospects or reason to get out of bed in the morning. There's no way the films of David Lynch have any impact on your life. I'd ask what your favorite movies are but i already know you're a chicken shit.
>>216841413Predator 2
>>216841504It's an attack on reason. Something that couldn't happen in real life. I won't tolerate it. You're in shambles.
