Christmas Edition Alright guys let's talk about why James thought this absolutely needed to be 3+ hours
>>216831782Still hasn't reached 400 million yet
>>216831853Critic score down to 66 %
What's the meaning of this drawing
>>216831782Quaritch can't become friend of Jake and Neytiri after all the Na'vi he has killed. Neytiri would never accept it. Then what is his future?, join again the RDA?
>>216831853no legsno billies
>>216831920Heroic sacrifice and Varang is pregnant
>>216831935What happened with Varang?, she was taken prisoner by Jake and Neytiri?
>>216831955No Kiri mind raped her and she ran off
>>216831782After 3 hours and 17 minutes, you'll be forced to like it. Normally does circle between hate and like when forced.
>>216831782I enjoyed the movie but I will never sit thru this thing again. My back was aching in those shitty iMax seats during the last 45 minutes and it definitely took away from the enjoyment. This movie is the least focused and most bloated of the 3, and I thought 2 was a bit bloated. There are no conclusions to any plot threads or characters, nor are any loose ends ties up. Its just a “to be continued” in the ever continuing saga of the Sully family. Like a tv show, only the episodes are 3 hours. The last act is literally copied and pasted from Avatar 2. This should’ve brought down the curtain on the franchise and wrapped everything up definitively so it could stand as its own trilogy but thats not what it is. Thats my review of Avatar Fire and Ash please make sure to subscribe for more hot takes.
I hate that this character is ruined by her 75 year old VAShe's supposed to be like fifteen
>>216831988i didnt like it too, but what needs to be concluded? the navi beat the whalers and saved the day. neytiri learns to accept spider. kiri becomes one with eywa or whatever. tu'ok gets more responsible. the only unresolved things I can think of are just with what the hell eywa even is
>>216832042>Quarch will return to hunt down Jake>the military will return to hunt whales>The sexy fire queen just ran away after being called a bitch and was written out of the movie>the sully family is still on the run >pandora jesus… is…. le god?!? (we know we saw this shit in both previous movies)
4 years until the next one? Aren't they already filmed or almost filmed?
There’s an unfortunate amount of people on tiktok that formed headcanons going into this and as a result were disappointed. To which I would say first of all this isn’t black and white, it’s grey all over and that’s the way Cameron does it. Second of all if you’re projecting this onto real life and vice versa you’re going to have a really difficult time.
>>216831853BO Mojo sucks at accuracy, use The-Numbers or xitter
>>216831782such a cute couple
>>216832156yeah i was expecting varang to be the main villain of the movie and for most of the movie to have all the characters fight with the fire village people. i feel like they were gearing in for a hype showdown between them in the first hour of the movie but then it shifted to focusing on the dumb whale shit.
I don't remember the "no gen ai" title card they said would be in the movie
>>216832030She doesn't sound that different from 20 something y/o Sigourney in Alien, some young women just have old sounding voices.
I yearn to see what pre-volcano loli varang looks like
>>216831879Why is the critic and audience score so far apart for everything nowadays
>>216832670Safe horny beta tranny nonsense
>>216833081Critics are OUUUUT OF TOOOUUUCH(OUT OF TOUCH)
>>216833102That's a sentence with 5 words consisting almost entirely of buzzwords, impressive. Replace "nonsense" with "slop" and you'll be in the pipe, five by five.
>>216833261And you'll still be a cocksucking faggot. Enjoy Hell.
>>216833326Boy, that escalated quickly.
>>216831782It needed to be 4 hours. Lots of stuff was very obviously cut and many scenes like Loaks suicide attempt barely got any time to breathe properly.
why are female na'vi so much more aggressive towards each other and outsiders compared to male na'vi? Is this some kind of nest protecting behavior?
>>216832261I've heard Cameron filmed a bunch of stuff with the kids that will be the beginning for part 4, but they are doing a time skip and the kids will be older for the rest of part 4 and all of part 5. So they still have a lot to film.
>>216833750Would you say they are... catty?
>>216833750NAC
>>216833598>good effects, the 3d wasnt that present. felt more for depth of feel view>the advertising has varang very present but shes not in the movie very much. i dont think jake even acknowledges her existence. they should have had a flashback sequence where her tribe gets foresaken by eywa and the volcano btfos them>quaritch should have been killed and have varangs tribe be the big threat, shes the only character we get and the rest of her tribe are npcs>we dont see the water tribe leader react to his wife and son die. we just cut to him happy with his new babyi wanted varang to be the main villain not muh quaritch three times in a row
>>216833831That's not how greentexting works you retard
I hope the next film focuses on the rampant rise in sex tourism to Pandora
>>216833102Trvke
>>216833363Should have posted the gif with a Tumblr filename. Apply yourself.
>>216833831>i dont think jake even acknowledges her existenceHe does at one point of time, when the ash tribe led by Quaritch/Varang goes into a standoff with the water tribe (Jake addresses Varang as Quaritch's 'girlfriend'). But yes it's a shame really that there's hardly any interaction between the two.>we dont see the water tribe leader react to his wife and son die. we just cut to him happy with his new babyAs mentioned by the anon you replied to, I think it needed to be a tad bit longer, and not to go off tangent but the final battle was rather bum-rushed like a Wikipedia summary with scenes here and there being overtly familiar with those from Avatar (2009) and WoW. Hence why there's people going around spouting the same trite yet understandable criticisms like A&F being too 'samey' in several aspects. I think Cameron really wanted to inundate the audience with all these callbacks to the previous two films ("Remember the aerial battle and Eywa's intervention from the first movie? Boy, you're really gonna dig this!" "Loved the family hostage situation on the ship in the second one? You're in for a ride!"), but I think this was a faulty and costly move on his part.There was another anon that said it would've been a start if the last chunk of the film was to take place at the volcanoes like The Northman. And I couldn't agree more, because the 'samey' criticisms suffered in A&F could've been somewhat rectified if Cameron had cooled his clear affinity for the waters down to a tee.>they should have had a flashback sequence where her tribe gets foresaken by eywa and the volcano btfos themI wouldn't have minded this too over the draggy water scenes. Completely depending on the execution of course. Or maybe there's gonna be some of this in the coming deleted scenes if not A4.
>>216834996>A&FFire and Ash. My bad.
>>216833598If Jimbo just A4 into a 3-hour homemade Quaritch x Cupcake porn it will make 5 billies easily
>>216831782Is it worth seeing? I watched Avatar 1 in 2009 but I was too scared to see the sequel due to the amount of hot alien girls that might cause me to go into a mental crisis since
>>216835432No.
this isn't even my final form
>>216835432There's even more and even hotter alien girls in this than in the second one
>>216831782This shits just james cameron promoting the fuck out of his boring formulaic cgi cartoon. Spend billions on marketing hype, deliver quantity over quality, the endless supply of stupid kids will fork over their parents money.That this fucking board refers to itself as cinephiles but its full of avatar, marvel, & vidya franchise vehicles is exactly why the film industry is dead & the theaters are all shutting down.
>>216835545>That this fucking board refers to itself as cinephilesI thought we was pedophiles?
>>216831782merry Christmas. this is wholesome af
>>216833799>>216833818They're not cats!
>>216835432I'm afraid to admit you missed out on Avatar's hot alien girl renaissance era. Now all of them are either taken or dead.The good news is that Varang makes up for most of them.
>>216831782People keep saying the ending is jaw dropping crazy. I've never seen a single Avatar, can someone spoil it?
Im glad the Na'vi have accepted Christ. Now we truly have a chance to civilise them.
>>216835751They fight the evil whalers... again.
>>216835810
>>216835751Just watch the first one. I get the impression the others dont add much.
>>216835751if you've watched avatar 1 you basically already watched them all. the story is almost exactly the same (with a few cosmetic differences)
>>216833598I wonder if Directors goon to their exclusive cut scenes when no ones around.
>>216831782I just watched it holy shit varang is sexy as fuck and sireya is also cute
I use grok imagine to make suggestive Na'vi porn.
>>216831782Those movies have such awful art style.This shit looks like something 13 year olds form /ic/ would concoct.
>>216836123It looks cool, you mean?
>>216836136Amateurish and uninspired.Soulless.
>>216836179What looks professional and inspired, soulful?
HOW MANY BILLIES FOR JIMMY?HOW MANY OSCARS FOR JIMMY?HOW MANY DAYS TILL A4?
>>21683623200Infinity days because flops don't get sequels
>>216836219Cameron's movies before he went senile.
>>216832030She is also meant to be an exact clone of the character Sigourney Weaver played and she clearly has some sort of divine origin. I think her having a weird voice adds to her mystery a bit, there's even a scene in F&A where her voice becomes distorted and sounds like she is using some godly power to command Lo'ak. But it only happens once.
>>216836323>commanding someone with a weird voiceSo he's ripping off Dune now?
>>216836404Basically all sci-fi is a rip off of Dune in some way
>>216831853Did the second movie reach $400 Million by this point?
>>216836443Probably. Who cares? That was then. This is now.
>>216836471I looked it up and it crossed $400 million around new year's eve while releasing on 16 December 2022. There is basically no competition so the even this movie will likely reach close to a billion by next month
>>216836257You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility. I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
>>216831913Probably a flash in the pan twitter meme art trend that didn't take off. Or just a plain as it seems sarcastic answer to a question for the obviously villainous bitch who will not be kind.
>>216836232Best we can do is 2 billies.The visual effects Oscar is already secured.See you in 2031 after the delays happen.
>>216831913Probably showing pre volcano fire crisis Varang when she was a kid
>>216837300checked
>loses her sister>loses her father>loses her hometree>loses her ikran>loses her former betrothed>watches half a forest burn as the sky people return>forced to leave her tribe and home>forced to live with sea clan who hate her kids>loses her eldest son>accidentally breaks her father's bow>watches her greatest enemy threaten to slice her adopted daughter's throat>watches her youngest daughter get sucked into the belly of an abominable sky people machine>forced to realize that she is going to watch her daughter drown, surrounded by cold metal>has to bury her son far from her home and tribe>only happiness is clinging to her ewya>her children hate her for wanting to ship off their pinkskin "brother">wounded in battle>has to be saved by sky people healthcare>has to cope with the pinkskin now being able to breathe superior pandoran air>still clashes with sea clan tsahìk>must go through weeks of painful rehabilitation and having to learn how to fire a bow again>admits to her husband that she not only secretly hates him for being mixed race, but she hates her children too>loses her new home>has to watch the love of her life willingly be taken into custody by the sky people AND a fellow Na'vi clan>must go alone to save her husband>gets catcalled by skydemons>must use her conscience and save the pinkskin from being killed by her mate>must deliver the dying tsahìk's baby and take responsibility for it>gets captured in battle and tortured by the ash clan tsahìk>cannot rightfully kill her greatest enemy in battleNeytiri is for suffering
>>216835432Yes but seeing the second movie is a pre-requisitepstream dot mov
>>216838020>admits to her husband that she not only secretly hates him for being mixed race, but she hates her children tooThe hate-fuck with Ma Jake must be insane. Full of hissing and snarling and scratching and all kinds of bizarre voodoo shit from Neytiri.
To all the subjects of EywaMy name is Kira Sully. I am using the power of the Tree of Souls to address all of Eywa’s subjects.The ecosystems of our world on Pandora are in sync, And all of Eywa’s creatures within have started marching.My objective is to protect the People of Pandora, the place where I was born and raised. However, the Sky-people wish for the annihilation of the Navi.The hatred that has been swelling up for so long will certainly not end, until not just the Omatikaya but all of Navi have been eliminated.I reject this wish. Toruk Makto shall trample all Pinkskins outside underwing until all life existing there has been exterminated from Pandora.
>>216835722Oona Chaplin is probably at least part-cat
>>216832261They filmed about 25% of 4 with 2 and 3 because they wanted to get all of the children's scenes done before the actors age out. There's apparently going to be an 8-10 year timeskip in 4. They haven't started filming 4 and 5 proper yet
>>216831782>Quaritch makes a deal with Jake and Neytiri>Jake and Neytiri immediately betray the deal and double cross himWhy are we supposed to root for Jake the Race Traitor? Quaritch keeps to his word at every turn. He didn't even kill the Navi on the beach when he easily could've taken Jake murdered them all.
>>216838020>cannot rightfully kill her greatest enemy in battleAnother time, Mrs. Sully.
>>216831913Acts of extreme cruelty require extreme empathy. She was probably extremely kind and empathetic before the destruction of her home, presumed death of her family, and loss of her religion mind-broke her
>>216838199I like this face even more
>>216838020it's over for Neytiri suffering
>>216838095And this is why she's universally better than Varang
>>216832670Kys self inserter
>>216835939Eywa what are you doing...?!
I got really weird feelings towards Neytiri because her snarly angry attitude mixed with occasional awkward kindness really reminds me of my mom but I'm also really attracted to Neytiri for that same reasonFreud was right
>pro family>pro life>pro religion>anti government>anti corporate>anti consumeristWhy does these movies engender such rage in such a large group of internet users? There's really nothing objectionable in them
>>216835810Only the Mangkwai will accept Christ. Most tribes are loyal to Eywa
>>216838099i want spider to think of me and be celibate after my death. at least 10 years
>>216838020She's at her peak crying.
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>>216838020The price to pay for human cock
>>216833750
>>216835731>ZDog: Ok boys, since we're going to be dead soon anyway. Let's do that train on me you horndogs always joked about. Test these new bodies out!
>>216833750it's definitely a female thing. Jake and Tonowari were already acting like bros five minutes aftery they landed
>>216837300I want Avatar 3 to make 2 billies to beat Ne Zha 2 to become the highest-grossing film of this year.>>216838020I think Neytiri got off a little easier in this film than in the first two films. She lost her father in the first film and she lost her eldest son (who was also her favourite child) in the second film and I think Neytiri genuinely loves Jake despite his human origin and I'm happy that Neytiri wasn't as sad in Avatar 3 as she was in the first two Avatar films. I always love Neytiri no matter what.
>>216833750Females are the same everywhere. It doesn't matter what species they are and it doesn't even matter what world they come from.
>>216838020>Wind Trader: Jake, something is wrong. Our airship can not fly properly since you came aboard. It seems to be sinking as if overloaded.>Jake: Um well, I forgot to mention that would likely be the weight of Neytiri's suffering. Her baggage is very heavy.
>>216831988I will pirate the BD to rewatch every Quaritch Varang scene regularly.
>>216838020She just stood there and watched as Spider was dying and later on threaten to kill him, she deserves to suffer.
>>216838199This is what real love looks like.
>>216838578The Avatar films are also pro-environment, the only thing I wholeheartedly agree with the left about. No wonder redditors hate the Avatar films.
>>216839184Spider is responsible for everything that happened in the third movie. All those deaths are because of his actions saving Quaritch.
>>216838578Don't forget, the next films without a doubt will put a sympathetic light on human colonists arriving and living in peace with the Na'vi and anti colonist sentiment will be portrayed as hateful and wrong when it comes to them.
>>216838578You just listed the reasons anon stop asking why
>Kiri: Hey Spider, I know what would cheer you up. I got this thing they call Mistletoe!
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>>216838578>pro religionthe religion matters. none of the values you mentioned matter if your belief/philosophy is bumfuck retarded. mudshit nations technically ticked all your boxes yet their countries ended up being shitholes anyways
>tells Quaritch she has two missions>make pandora livable for humans>pacify the hostiles>immediately tries to kill spider, the only human who can breathe the air>tells quartich to break his alliance with the only tribe willing to be friends with humanity>may single-handidly be responsible for the human race's extictionwhat did James "testosterone is a poison" Cameron mean by this?
>>216833750Females are the biggest hater of females in any species
>>216839310I can't WAIT til punished Quaritch returns after he is reborn in the fire and learns she gave an order to kill his sweet baby boy.
>>216839310Original Quaritch would have tried to kill Spider too if he was some unrelated human boy. He never believed in any of the science shit either. Grace was trying to tell them over and over about how special the planet-wide network was.
>>216839310Carmela wanted to shut the door to human colonisation
>>216839310>all human males must marry na'vi females>all human females must die What did Jim mean by this
>>216839354He already has a building hatred for them after the whole amrita revelation, meaning all the deaths of his men in the first film were completely meaningless. Wouldn't surprise me if Cameron wants to turn him into a conquering warlord who sides against the RDF in the next film, he already has a new queen and army waiting for him when he returns.
>Colonel Quaritch gets to go out personally fighting the Na'vi savages fighting to the death getting multiple kills and seconds away from killing Jake even before Neytiri got him with an arrow>General Doofus gets her city blown up, then rides out on a whaling fleet where she has to tell everyone to abandon ship after they predictably get attacked from the ocean just like the last movie and sail into an obvious, easily avoided energy vortex. She never gets to fight not once. She never gets to show off her cool robotic karate skills or gun shredding moves attacking Na'vi. Her orders are shown to be jokes no one takes seriously as Quaritch flies in to rescue her dumb ass.I think Cameron fucked up by not making the General character another badass like previous Colonel Quaritch. He wouldn't have upstaged Quaritch's arc, and still be killed off, but he would have been respectable.
>>216838020What a ryonabait
>>216839552Women are weak and laughable
>>216839552nah the point is that the RDA leadership are a bunch of greedy degenerates. They're not supposed to be cool. Very Robert E. Howard of him
>>216839671That's not how it was ever meant to look though. They spent all that money with the avatar program to treat the Na'vi nice. Selfridge was decent and wanted them to use gas to drive the Na'vi out. He even tried to call off the attack at the end. Quaritch was the violent guy who was fed up with playing nice and wanted to just kill them off and be done with it. Cameron absolutely needed another character like that. Scoresby was the greedy degenerate only interested in money.
>>216839310>>216839552name a character with more wasted potential
>>216839656But you'd think Cameron, who's been obsessed with masculine women since the 1980's, would not want to portray them as pathetic and incompetent.
>>216839552Quaritch fought for a purpose, she fought for creed.
>>216839826She fought for the exact same thing as Quaritch, but even more. Quaritch was only trying to run a mine. From her direct words, she was fighting to establish the new home world of Humanity. If she fails, Humanity dies.
>>216839768He hasn't. Neytiri, Varang, Kiri, Grace, Ronal, Trudy, and Mo'at are all extremely competent and even formidable in their areas of expertise. It's just that he's taken the story in a different direction after the success of the first one and is making Stranger in a Strange Land instead of Dances With Wolves. For the story that he wanted to tell in 2 and 3, the general needed to not really do very much or be much of a character. She can't be Pershing or Kitchener because an imperial power fighting a native insurgency isn't what he wants the focus of the story to be. It is what it is.
>>216839768All of the women in Avatar are characterized as extremely feminine.
>>216838020>gets catcalled by skydemonskek, you know women will tell themselves that's one of the worst things you listed
>>216838020>>216840122Is the catcalling the first time the series acknowledges that human men universally want to fuck Na'Vi women?
>>216835731
>exosuits used by soldiers exposes the pilot to all danger and offers no major benefits>boats have open tops (even though humans can't breathe on Pandora) leaving operators open to attack >underwater vehicles are mainly made up of glass that's easily breakable to spears>the one covered vehicle that offers pilot protection and is impervious to most attacks is a bulldozerBravo Cameron. The logistics of the humans is so irritating. Why don't they just build a dome to live in and make the air breathable in that finite space? The natives can fly so you've closed off that option for attack and you've also cut down on having to give everyone a mask and SCBA. Also if you have, let's say, a prisoner you don't want to escape you could easily shut down and seal a fortified dome. Humanity can travel trillions of miles through space build a simple dome or a mech suit worth a damn?
The song is supposed to be about them right?
>>216835731The whole concept of the recoms was insanely brushed over>hi, yeah you're an avatar now>well not really because you don't have a human body this is you forever now>no you're never going to see your family again and you can't ever go back to earth>no there aren't going to be a lot of others like you, we only made like 12 and don't have any plans to make more>what do you mean are you even still you? Like your soul? Lol idk ask a priest>so enjoy the next ... 70... years? none of you have died of old age yet so we're not totally sure how long you'll liveThen they all die like stormtroopers
>>216840235We Dream As One, you mean?
>>216840296Yeah.
What the next movie should do to get away from the whales:>between movies the RDA figures out the data they have on Spider, call the stuff inside him "Eywium" or some bullshit.>can't to do Na'vi nature magic, so they need a shit ton of it to synthesize even one dose>nature starts dying around where they harvest it and Eywa is actually hurting this time, the RDA needs to be stoppedAlternatively:>same setup, but the RDA also knows Na'vi can somehow control organics through it from the last battle, not a good idea to put that into their bodies>develop a nanite alternative, that can only spread through metal and stone, with the same function, just when the RDA's biggest advantage finally arrives from Earth, the core of their advanced AI called "Gaia">humans can now breath wherever the planet is industrialized (get it?) and near their machines, starting to spread and colonize more aggressively now>meanwhile Quaritch and his new allies were made responsible for the failure in the last movie, so he is kinda banished from the RDA and with Varang in the ash lands, but then Lyle shows up with all the soldiers and other humans that are loyal to Quaritch and they brought a bunch of industrial equipment along>in all it's irony Quaritch even before Jake creates a base where a equal number of humans and na'vi live and fight together>also upgrading hard, like mining unobtanium and using the vulcano to smelt it, so you eventually see ash Na'vi in black, red and white painted exo-skeletons who use huge modern compound bows>in the end they all clash of course and the blue Na'vi barely once again win>movie ends on Gaia identifying that the human organic (human) element is a error margin, implying that she sees even the RDA people on Pandora as liability to her mission now
>>216840249What's the point of making them Na'vi anyways? The point of an Avatar was to more easily blend in with the culture but recoms are just soldiers. Why not make an 8ft tall human that's made like a brick shit house? Even the way Jake treats Quaritch shows how they don't even know what to think of recoms.>Those are just memories of a dead man and they're not yours, you choose who you are. Except for your love for Spider. That's totally real and not just memories of a dead man
>>216840413Maybe try rewatching the 2nd movie where the general explains why they needed soldiers with na'vi bodies?
>>216840249It's not really. They know they are just expendable assets of the company. They signed their memories away to be slave automatons in the future if the company deems it so. The company uses them as they wish, kills them off if they wish, they have no rights. Quaritch should have been put into chains after his actions not just allowed to run free and fly off even though he was ordered to stay on base.
>>216838020>>forced to realize>>has to cope>>gets catcalled>>must use her conscience>being a woman is suffering
>>216840212You can't really think about any of this stuff, because it all falls apart at how advanced the humans are shown to be. For one big example, the humans can print organics as complex as the Na'vi, but they still need to hunt individual whales, when even if they couldn't straight up synthesize the immortality juice, they should be easily able to just print the whales and hold them like cattle. Or that they use so much human piloted war machines at all, then they probably could just have drone swarms do everything outside of Bridgehead.
>>216840413>What's the point of making them Na'vi anyways?They were repurposing the money sink that was the avatar program as a hackjob to show something to stakeholders
Sullies stick together!
>>216840186it is literally the catalyst for the entire series
>>216840212>>216840516The point of the RDA is that they specifically are nepotistic corporate retards, not that all militarized industrial humans are retardsOtherwise Jake wouldn't have guns at all and there would be no pro-Na'Vi humansAny decision making not making sense is easily explained by pointing to any corporation today making decisions with no sense
>>216840413The basics are that whatever they do to give them the hair antennas probably turn them all blue and stripey and tailed as well.
>>216840388AI is 100% going to show up at some point. The humans will probably figure out how Eywa "works" (at least on paper) and upload a super-AI into Pandora's neural network to take over.
>>216840572It was portrayed as unique to main characters like Jake, Spider, Quaritch. They never had background NPCs display unrestrained lust for the blue catgirls before now.
>>216832030She also forgot what she sounded like in the second movie for some reason.
>>216840571No, the other one!
>>216840413the recomps can breathe Pandora air and link with the flying things and have sex with Varang.
why do all navi have the same eye color
>>216838578Also pretty out and out fascist coded, I think at one point Jake literally holds up a fucking faces when he's rallying the clans to fight against the foreign invaders.
>>216840631Jimbo's original idea for the Na'vi design was that when you look at them, you irresistibly want to fuck them
>>216840680They aren't, the water tribe has got different eyes
>>216840516Or just capturing the whales and attempting factory farming. Why are technologically advanced humans whaling like the feudal Japanese?>>216840586The nepo corporate guy is able to lead an expedition through the stars but can't think to put a dome over the human settlement? It even makes sense from the corporate stand point. Giving every individual an SCBA that requires a tank, a battery and could be lost or damaged is a money sink. Putting a dome over the boats and city already cuts that cost. Also people dying from Na'vi attacks is a cost because you lose man power and have to ship more people to replace them. That's incentive enough to look for a new design on the tech.
>>216838578>anti-gunDROPPED
>>216840480>>216840560Yeah but they can't repurpose the Avatar making machine to make humans? IIRC it would rake the Na'vi genetic code and, use your DNA and then build you a Na'vi Avatar. Why not just cut the Na'vi part a bit and make it a majority human?>>216840606We know that's not true because Spider>>216840662I'm sure a genetically modified human could breathe on Pandora as well. If they're able to make Na'vi human hybrids why can't they just do the same but make it more human?
>>216840846>Why not just cut the Na'vi part a bit and make it a majority human?I repeat: maybe try watching the movie where the general explains why they need to be na'vi. The part where they only had 10 minutes in enemy air-space before the animals went crazy and came after them, but wouldn't attack the recoms because of their na'vi bodies? Remember that part, that they explicitly explained?>And how might we test that hypothesis?>The hard way.>Outstanding!
>>216840811Cameron's not anti-gun. He made some super cool guns for Avatar and the natives are slowing being taught to learn their value
So if they can just put quiddich in a human body after all this is done.Does this mean that death doesnt exist in avatarverse?Hes just a regular soldier so theres no doubt megacorporate elite also have savepoint tech in their homes.
>>216833326>A FAGThis title doe
>>216840846It's expensive and takes years. There's no point when they can make mechs and vehicles in weeks. The Avatars and Recoms had a specific purpose that couldn't be fulfilled otherwise.
>>216840902the "thumbhole stock = futuristic" design language needs to die, that shit is retarded
>>216840846>Yeah but they can't repurpose the Avatar making machine to make humans?I'd guess there are ethical or legal limitations with cloning or genetically modifying humans, given the absence of such forms of transhumanism, the avatar program sounds like it skirts some boundary but is allowed to get away with it.
>>216840935it's potentially a very experimental technology and in any case it doesn't provide a true continuity, the elites will prefer whale juice for continuous immortality instead of having a clone with their memory that lives their lives instead of them.
>>216840935>die>a new person with your memories is createdYou'll still be dead. Your clone is not you. They could create a clone of you while you were still alive, with all of your memories, and you'd still be you.
>>216840935what megacorporation would you trust with all your memories and secrets?
>>216841159Google and Microsoft already have them, right?
>>216840898Wasn't that Avatar 1? By Avatar 2 humans are whaling without Avatars or Na'vi so I assume Pandora has gotten used to their presence.>>216840960Because of the risk of putting a zombie man brain in an alien body and that being the only body they know
All rise for the anthemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owK-2zmVhd8
>>216841085It's good that you understand what comprises consciousness so well. You should write a book about it so science can catch up with you.
>>216841185>Wasn't that Avatar 1?No, I'm literally quoting lines from Way of Water, General Ardmore talking to Recom Quaritch at Bridgehead.>humans are whaling without Avatars or Na'vi The Hallelujah Mountains is where the "immune response" as they called it was taking place, which is also where Jake Sully was hiding. Hence the need for avatar bodies.
>>216840755>The nepo corporate guy is able to lead an expedition through the stars but can't think to put a dome over the human settlement? Yes. Nepotism and corporate decision-making both works exactly that way. Everything can be going sweet and then suddenly at one or two links in the chain, shitty decisions are made and then it's all downhill from there.
>>216840702He's also a fan of anime going back decades, so he probably worked on what would be the most fuckable subtle design.Then he made them all practically naked.
>>216841199Jaegwon Kim's 2011 book Philosophy of Mind, which any freshman philosophy student will be familiar with most likely, discusses this very subject using Star Trek transporter beams as the example. Don't act passive-aggressive and snide when you don't know what you're talking about, little bitch.
>>216840846I'm still convinced Spider would turn Na'vi if he went through that treatment a few dozen more times. Eywa is an extreme assimilator, she would turn every forested planet in the galaxy into Pandora if she could, and all the species into Pandora analogues.
>>216841077>the elites will prefer whale juice for continuous immortality instead of having a clone with their memory that lives their lives instead of them.Or you know, finding out how Jake Sully transferred his consciousness permanently into his fucking avatar. Something everyone just accepts without a second question or confused look. When Quaritch was fighting his final battle in the first movie, he knew to attack the trailer since Jake's real body was obviously in there controlling it. When Quaritch comes back to life, he doesn't ask a single time, "wait, where's Jake's real body? How is he inside the Avatar like us Recoms who were born this way?" That's infinitely more valuable than whale juice. It's literal soul moving immortality into any body you make. And not a single person wonders about it.
>>216836427False nuke
I like when one of the adult Avatars is running alongside one of the humans because it shows just how big they are in comparison
>>216841085The new me won the coin toss and would never be able to tell the difference.
why is it flopping?
>>216841360Your soul would still be in hell regardless of how much Soma you've played
>>216841364Avatar fatigue.
>>216841318Saw somebody above point out they might try to upload some AI/Virus to Eywa. I think that is where we are leading, they are going to try to figure out the "god" since its just nature bro, and humans have dominion over nature.They are so removed from Eywa they probably have not even thought about it. They might use the avatars as a way to get in good with eywa to try to steal replicate the process for the soul transferring. Like you said, nobody ever wonders. Jake is 'special' I guess so eywa was able to do it, with Grace, eywa made a new body and everything.
>>216841318>It's literal soul moving immortality into any body you make. And not a single person wonders about it.It's not, it's a cut paste, the real Jack died during the "transfer" just like Quaritch is not the same, just a copyThe "souls" are just data harvested by ewya
>>216841381Yes but everytime I die a new me (in a version of my idealized body) would respawn in my 20s and think life is incredible and there is no such thing as the big fire.Also would hell accept the other mes? Surely there is only one version of me that deserves hell because the others are just sinless copies that just happened to inherit memories of my debauchery.Surely theres a version of me that lived like mother theresa and did non stop good things before he died. Does that guy go to heaven? Then I win that coin toss and the true version of me goes to heaven (there would be a few of us after a long enough time and enough respawns).
>>216839310the writing is never the strong point in these movies
>>216841490Also when the data are half broken (Grace dying) eywa can't make a real copy, just like when you try to save a half failed hard drive
>>216841490It's not. Jake is moved and that's made explicitly clear. His old body has nothing left inside. Eywa can do that for anyone and that's the most invaluable thing ever discovered.
>>216840651Sullies never quit! :)
>>216841498This is really fucking simple. If you and your clone exist at the same time, you are OBVIOUSLY different people. Getting cloned post-mortem does not move your soul into a new body, it creates a new person.End of story.
>>216840755>The nepo corporate guy is able to lead an expedition through the stars but can't think to put a dome over the human settlement?How many people do you think tried to warn him as he decided he knew better than anyone else that domes are stupid?
>>216841498Presumably if they kept making more and more copies of you and you kept linking up to Eywa, only one of you would ever be in there and you'd all just merge together
>>216841318>Or you know, finding out how Jake Sully transferred his consciousness permanently into his fucking avatar.From their point of view that's not different from a clone, they have no idea that there was a continuity.
>>216841490Humans have the flawed "copy" tech. The Na'vi have the superior version. Why even put in all of this effort for immortal whale cum if you could just hop to the next body and they have proof its 100% the you from before?
>>216841573Yes but I would create a system that prevents the clones from rememebering who is who so they would both be happy and be convinced by the magicians prestige. We both won the cointoss and we would both get to go to mega heaven.
Legs status?
>>216841672That doesn't make a lick of sense. The humans on the planet have zero technology to make a clone. From the RDA's perspective, it is impossible to create a clone on the planet. It's certainly impossible to create a clone of Jake with all his memories and personality. The natural habitat can not create clones. They don't believe Eywa is anything more than a silly network of fungus. You're reaching to defend a giant hole in the story that Cameron wants ignored.
>>216841490Quaritch knows he's a copy, Jake thinks he's the same Jake. There's nothing to indicate that he's not.
>>216841748Steady so far.
>>216841672Was there continuity though? or just the illusion of it?
>>216841748shriveled and useless
>>216841672What the fuck, they know exactly what an avatar is, of course they know it's Jake
>>216841517>ANOTHER reddit humiliation ritualwhy do they keep doubting?
>>216841802The industry keeps wanting Cameron to fail and the people who worship the industry snarl at him like the good dogs they are.
>>216841694Because avatar world is just a truman show invasion.The soldiers are in on it, the harvester guys are in on it. The navi think there is a war and they have anything worth taking (unobtaniun lmao) and they think their arrows work against space faring tier armor tech but its all just pretend and any actor that looked like they died is just a really convincing practical effect.Really, the only export pandora has to offer is entertainment, and the infinite human colonies love watching the limiltess navi shows running 24-7.
Why did the fire tribe attack the wind-traders?
>>216841754I accept your concession
Get in here Avatar bros>>216841427
The wind traders have got to be the most retarded concept. What exactly do you trade when you live in a pre industrial sapient world that goes out of its way to take care od the blue monkey creatures?Fruits and shit? Lumber? Leaves?
>>216841754You didn't get what I said.Of courses they would question how he stays in his avatar body, but once they have understood that there's no longer a human jake, they would have no reason to assume that whatever method he might have used allowed for a continuity of consciousness rather than something more comparable to the recom tech they already have, where the human is dead and the avatar just happens to be animated by uploaded memories.
>>216841802They love this movie tho.
>>216841838they want their stuff
>>216841921different clans have different foods/drugs/clothes/crafts, they would exchange those between the clans that are too far
>>216841921FYIhttps://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Tlalim_Clan
>>216841921Don't really dig too deep into the writing, it's not the setting's strength.
>>216842030Whats the profit? Take 10 onion berries and trade it for 2 swirly flowers but its actually worth 11 onion berries?Do wind tradera jump off their stupid airships when the value of beet root goes below five twirly vines and it RUINS their family fortune?
>>216841921>What exactly do you trade when you live in a pre industrial Nigga do you seriously think people started trading with each other after the industrial revolution?
>>216842080Na'vi have no concept of currencyThey "trade" things each side needs, and if they the windtraders don't need anything they just give the items away.It is in accordance with Eywa.
>>216842080>Whats the profit?tasting something exotic, meeting new people, stuff like that
I don't see the point of introducing the wind traders if they're just going to be in the movie for 10 minutes
>>216842080"Hey, we make cool things from what is on the beach. Want some?""Oh cool, we make cool things from the what is in the forest. Want some?""Hey guys, I can help you move the stuff back and forth, and I made some cool stuff too. Want some?">fortune>profitOpen your eyes to Eywa.
>>216842197superficial world-building
>>216842197Jimmy works in mysterious ways
>>216842197Cameron's reasoning was "it's just cool and I want to"
>>216842256would be cooler if they were actually in the movie for a decent amount of time. In fact wouldn't it be better to seek protection among them since they're nomadic and Neytiri can still indulge in her passion for flying?
>>216842128Imagine being the errand boy tribe doing non urgent deliveries for no profit or significance because planet avatar gives everyone everthing they need, so your purpose in life is to give monkey men berries and shit that taste slightly different and they also have no refrigeration or advanced culinary culture so they just eat the berries and shit as is instead of mixing ingredienrs up from different places and making something new ie inventing something.They dont even mine so there are no precious metals and its all just a larp. Lmao just eat this 1 week old berry bro. It tastes slightly different. Ok that'll be 1 vine that grows anywhere else plus tip.
>>216842153The navi are passive agressive cunts to each other. Even more so to people from other tribes. Meeting new navi is probably unpleasant.
>>216842307The wind traders clearly make exception if that's the case, they probably bring a lot of drugs for parties.
>>216842207Yeah the merchant guard are just risking their lives fighting ash tribers for no profit. They dont even recoup the cost of arrows and pterosactyl food because money is le bad.
>>216842197It was fucking cool and introduced the fire raiding.
>>216840811It's not anti-gun. Over and over again, Jake and his na'vi allies have shown a willingness to use firearms explosives to effectively fight back against the RDA. The na'vi are not pacifists and practically every single adult is armed with some form of weaponry when outside of their village. Cameron just wants the focus of these movies to be the characters and story, and the biggest spectacle to be Pandora itself, not each movie's climax where you get to see all the machine guns, missiles, flamethrowers, and grenade launchers lighting up aliens for 20 minutes
>>216842352What is the benefit to fire raiding. You raid the air niggers and steal the berries and leaves that grow everywhere, except some of your tribesmen died for berries and leaves.
>>216842286>Lmao just eat this 1 week old berry bro. It tastes slightly different. Ok that'll be 1 vine that grows anywhere else plus tip.lol
>>216842340>for no profitYes. There is no profit anywhere on Pandora. The concept doesnt even make sense.> the cost of"Hey I need arrows.""Here you go."?????
>>216842197They matter more in the next movie, like the fire cunts, but they had to be introduced early because avatar 2 was split into two movies and the second needed something fresh for the posters.
>>216842403Navi are cunts they would throw a shit fit when some foreiners rolled in and started pissing and shitting all over their tribe lands (they have no plumbing) and theyre like. "Heres a week old basket of berries that grow in abubdance righf here. Oh and we lost 5 monkey men and 2000 arrows to a fire tribe raid (they wanted to steal a basket of berries lmao). Anyway give us arrows and medicine in exchange for these berries and vines. And dont mind my 50 gypsy monkeys that are pissing, shitting and being a general nuisance trying to trade week old berries for some arrows and shit."
>>216842286>Imagine being the errand boy tribe doing non urgent deliveries for no profit or significanceGod, imagine traveling a paradise with your bros on airships while doing new drugs and banging new foreign women every other week.
>>216842501Sounds like hell. We need to get these people an office job and a tiny apartment to live in.
>>216842488>started pissing and shitting all over their tribe landsDisrespect would get you punched, yes.you want to create bullshit in your head and make up how your family acts when you go out to your weekly fancy dinner at Denny's, you can go fight that bullshit all you want.Nothing you say changes that Na'vi dont think in any term of cost or profit.The traders are "risking their lives" because that is their way.The forest tribes "risk their lives" just to become a man.The na'vi arent weak little profit driven worms.You'll notice even the "bandits" arent trying to steal anything.They're just burning down the ships.
>>216842545Nah let them sleep on some leaves and shit or fly around in a pointless gypsy caravan.
>>216842578So what youre telling me is that pandora is just a badly written setting where monkey men travel around and fight as a performative larp because thats what tribes do except we dont have to except lets do it anyway because we have to ok?
>>216831913little cat fella
>>216842641Most Na'vi arent traveling around, thus the traders.You fucking moron.Yes, all the Na'vi fight. Life is a struggle, and that struggle is a joy, even when it includes death/tragedy/sadness.you cant understand this because you are pathetic parasite on human society.
>>216832030Her voice doesn't sound that old. Obviously it sounds older than a teenager, but it's not that bad.
>>216842488>one tribe that wears weird small hats tells another tribe that they will give them one basket of berries today if the other tribe gives them two baskets of berries next week>and if they don't get two baskets of berries then they can take a bunch of arrows, flowers, children, whateverTheoretically what does Eywa do here?
>>216839544Love the idea of him going full bronze age warlord. Conquering a large chunk of tribes and chilling with his fire wife.
>>216842717Struggle is manufactured. There is infinite food. The hunt is even fake because the planet makes all animals behave to the navis benefit. There is literally no reason to do anything other than the camera is rollling.
>>216833081Extremely out of touch critics who measure a film's quality by how many jew-approved boxes it checks.Jim, hilariously, doesn't check many despite making an on-the-nose environmentalist film.
>>216842738She teaches you that you have a very primitive and frankly incorrect understanding of how it worked before money.>>216842825>Struggle is manufactured.Taming a banshee or the water equivalent is not manufactured. Life on Pandora will kill those unwilling to be fit to the task.>the planet makes all animals behave to the navis benefitSimply not true. There has been exactly two times this has happened in all of Pandora, and it was only with great cajoling the first time, and with direct intervention the second.You dont watch the films.
I really hope we get some Avatar books or comics set after 3 so 4 doesn't have to spend its runtime tying up every single loose end from 2 and 3. Also hoping they'll be better than the high ground.
>>216842882Modern leftist ideology basically boils down to: "include blacks, preferably female blacks, and preferably homosexual, and make them badasses".Since there are no prominent blacks, no prominent female blacks, and no prominent female black gays, this movie is bad. According to leftist critics' ideology.Literally nothing else matters to them.
>>216842754I don't think Varang would go for leaving the humans though. She hates Eywa, she hates the other na'vi and wants to humiliate and debase them, she looked like she was practically drooling when she got to use the flamethrower and when she was looking around at all the flashing lights and steel and glass in the human city. She wants everything the humans can give her because she wants to be bigger and stronger than all the stupid little na'vi worshipping the useless goddess that couldn't even protect her clan from one little volcano. She'd be furious if Quaritch said they should just go back to the forest
>>216842595>flying around on bio-zeppelins trading between exotic cultures?>heh... that LE SUCKS, I want to stare at spreadsheets and listen to middle-aged women gossip all day!Based corpo-drone.
>>216842956It's kind of hilarious too considering Zoe Saldana should be checking a few of those boxes, but just doesn't count because critics don't like the fact that she isn't racist.
>when she sees your cock for the first time
>>216841921Artisanal workHere's some 50 special arrows made by the snow tribes, I can give you them in exchange for 100 of your simple arrowsThen they go to the desert tribes and sell them those 100 simple arrows for dinosaur bones they can crush into drugs
>>216842999Well she's blue in the movie, and she also doesn't "girlboss" for her own sake, but for the sake of her husband and family, which doesn't count. Neither does she make quips about feminism or the tribal patriarchy. So it's just not going to land with leftist critics.
>>216842391The scalps.
>>216843119See, exactly what I mean.She's black, but doesn't give a shit about being black and is likely one of the few who doesn't give a shit about skin color in the slightest.Self-proclaimed anti-racists are in fact extremely racist, and especially hate people who aren't racist.
>>216843100Not every wind trader has the necessary inventory in order to participate in this kind of trading, so I will be nice and give them supplies and in exchange from now on they will give me some portions of whatever they trade for (e.g. 1 arrow for every 10 arrows they receive)
>>216843162Eywa willing you will be raped to death by six legged elephants for your jewishness
>>216842924>Also hoping they'll be better than the high groundWhat is even the point of those comics when they're immediately treated as non-canon? Cameron should have learned from The Matrix that if you're doing spin-off material in different media formats, it should all work together to enhance the whole. Not be just random fan fiction to ignore
kino shot
>>216843296>Do you think she (sees Me)?
>>216843296>why the fuck are the whalers at it again?
>>216843296What was xer problem? Why wouldn't xe talk to the Sigourney cat?
>>216838347nigga do you think jeffrey dahmer or other serial killers were killing their victims out of empathy?
>>216843296To quote Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri>You are the children of a dead planet, earthdeirdre, and this death we do not comprehend. We shall take you in, but may we ask this question—will we too catch the planetdeath disease?
>>216843296>BHC you say?
>>2168429244 will probably begin right after 3 because Jim said they've already filmed about 25% of the movie so that the child actors don't age out. Then there'll be an 8 year timeskip. So the first quarter of the movie will pick up pretty quickly after 3 and culminate with something happening that produces a static situation that allows the timeskip, then the bulk of the movie happens. Do the humans "win" and build reservations or something? Do the na'vi "win" and destroy the base forcing humanity to regroup and come back a third time?
>>216842393Did she actually do this?
>>216843489kino
>>216843553I think it's about time the humans get a substantial victory. They keep losing like idiots. Navi reservations would be brutal and interesting to see.
It's a flop, no Avatar 4.
>>216843599The humans overall have been pretty permissive and treated the na'vi with kid gloves so I don't see them just flipping out and putting them in Skynet concentration camps, but maybe they figure out how to cut off access to Eywa across wide regions of the planet and compel the ones that won't abandon her to self restrict their movement or something like that
Fire And Ass
>>216843842Ash to Ash
>>216843861kek
>>216843599The humans in these movies seem absolutely retarded, but then I remember retarded things that the world's most powerful governments do, and remember that it isn't actually implausible.Think about the afghanistan debacle, for example. That's probably even more retarded than the retarded actions of the humans in these films. I could see the American or Russian governments doing something as stupid as what they do in these films.
>nooo please don't drag me away from my primitive adoptive parents who want to kill me so I can live in first-world society like my real mother wanted!!
>>216844199Spider is completely mindbroken and doesn't mind that Jake will literally cut his throat
>>216843020STOP FUCKING LAUGHING
>>216843573Neytiri? Oh yes.
>>216843861Dust to dust
>>216844264Spider is smart and understands that Jake doesn't desire to do that, but that it's for the greater good of all their shared loved ones.
>>216844199>teehee
>>216844349will the RDA goons really complain about the ash na'vi not wearing clothes?
Did the tech progress between 2 and 3 at all? Rewatching 1, they now look like PS3 characters because of TWoW, I'm wondering if 3 will do that to 2 or if Jimbo already perfected it with 2.
everyone's racist in this universe lol from the navi to the rda everyone hates everyone
>>216833102None one of those words are in the bible.Also, there's nothing safe horny about the age old lolcow tradition of self-shipping, if anything, it's double the level of cringe considering the character in question is already paired in the source material with a far superior male. Are you an ai chatbot or that internet illiterate?
>>216844615three is basically Way of Water Part 2.. but some of the graphics are slightly better.
>>216844615>>216844615avatar 2 and 3 were made at the same time so no there's no difference in technology
>>216844628racism is natural
>>216844667so is diarrhea, doesn't mean its something to be proud of or embraced
>>216844628pretty crazy that Neytiri is painted as an unreasonable racist after everything she's been subjected to.
>>216836258OH MY GOD WHAT IS THAT THING?
>>216844725Tsireiya, Lo'ak's gf
>>216844725That thing is gonna get a big human (White) cock buried in it.
>>216844691true, just like tolerance, compassion and empathy
james cameron has done for water what coppola and scorsese did for mobster movies
>>216844838>james cameron has done for water what coppola and scorsese did for mobster movies
>>216844615I rewatched Avatar 1 after 3 and I was shocked at how bad it looked when I remember it looking amazing.
>>216844725Fishy cat pussy>>2168446152 and 3 look the same, but I'm sure that 4 and 5 will make them look dated. It's not perfect yet.
>>216831782>Humans are after Jake Sulley and his family>Kids get captured>Jake and Neytiri have to get them back>Culminates in a large battle>Someone calls on Eywa to send help>Animals come from far and wide to kill the human soldiers>Bad guys lose>Jake and his family hugThe movie was just formulaic trash. If you seen the first 2 films then you've seen this one. In universe there was just a few days from the end of the second movie to the start of this film so those kids have been captured no less than 6 times by Quaritch and the humans and used as hostages. It's getting really fucking old at this point.
>>216844924The opening banshee riding scene looked really janky desu
>>216844924if she's already a fish does it mean her snatch smells like chicken?
>>216844898now when I see new graphics I just think of how shit its going to look in 10 years and I don't get impressed anymore.
>>216845015they have dolphin vaginas
>>216845072Dolphin pussy looks legitimately attractive.
Metkayina: We've beaten the sky people twice now. Surely, they will finally learn from their mistakes and leave us in peaceRDA: get the next wave ready
>>216845048We're here for the story, the characters, the journey, not for the graphics
>>216845048Still looks great.
How did Jake use one of those flying fish to fly up and attack a man using a banshee? Those flying fish can actually fly like birds?
>>216845103It's more concerning when you realise that between the first and second movies the RDA only lost like 100 dudes topsEarth could swamp Pandora in Indians or Russians alone
>>216845153that vortex updraft was significant
>>216844958>every scene with varang>lo'ak almost committing suicide>neytiri admitting she sometimes hates the human part of her children>neytiri bringing up killing spider and then jake almost doing it>kiri kissing spider>spider growing a head tail>ronal giving birth and dying in the middle of the battle2 felt like the MCU to me, this one felt wild compared to it. I felt whiplash going from talking whales in one scene to quaritch and varang in a bdsm tent in the next
>>216845153You saw it on the screen didn't you? Then you already know your answer.
>>216845099Why do you know this?
>>216845167>IndiansThey would never do this, for the same reason they don't just nuke every known Na'vi settlement
>>216845099>Dolphin pussy looks legitimately attractive.James Cameron knows what hes doing.
>>216845208They need staff for the thousands of IT help centers that will be needed on Pandora.
>>216845206She's even blushing
>>216845243Naynays pussy is so hot
>>216845243>She's even blushing
>>216845266It gets worse when you realize that dolphin's have thin little pencil dicks and you could probably be able to legitimately pleasure a female dolphin
>>216835834>>216835810It's wild that Cameron as an American director didn't think about the angle of people trying to convert the natives to christianity. Then again maybe in Cameron's sci-fi future humanity is 90% white and atheist.
>>216845243
>>216845126The story hasn’t moved for 16 years.
>>216845347Female dolphins are biologically built to be pleasured by human men
>>216845430I mean there was the whole Peter the Dolphin controversy which would've been a more compelling movie than Shape of Water, especially since it happened.If a male dolphin can fuck a human woman into falling in mutual love with him, then the roles could easily reverse.Even more interesting here is that dolphins are so intelligent that they classify as people, and there are laws against human interaction with dolphins.What I'm saying here is they pretty much pass the Harkness test, even if their communication isn't verbal.
>>216845508It is unfair that dolphin women aren't allowed to be pleasured by us. In fact, I would classify it as a violation of animal rights. We need to build facilities that allow dolphin women to be mating pressed by as many men as they want. I would love a dolphin wife to shower with gifts, kisses and babymaking sex.
>>216845589In the near future, with gene-edicting on the horizon we will truly live to see goon-horrors.
>>216845621I would only want a pureblood dolphin wife, no genetic monstrosities. We just need a device that can be installed in their wombs to allow them to carry human children to term.
>>216845388Movie 1:>Humans are after rare mineral>Humans vs Navi war>Jake goes native>Calls on Eywa to help>Animals attack humans and Navi win the warMovie 2:>Jake starts a family>Humans return to colonize the planet and harvest whale goo>Humans hunt Jake >Humans take Jakes family hostage to capture Jake>Someone calls on Eywa and the Humans loseMovie 3:>Jake and his family are still hiding from the humans>Humans want more whale goo and up their efforts to capture Jake>Human vs Navi war ends with someone calling Eywa for help and animals showing up to kill humans>Jake and his family live to fight another dayThis franchise has no fucking plot and has nowhere to go from here. It's formulaic and pointless. Now that Spyder and Kiri want to fuck I'm sure their hybrid child abomination will be the plot of the 4th film if it ever get's made.
oh shihttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/oVIJ0dQgByk
>>216845675The series would be a lot more entertaining if it were Na'vi Quaritch going full native warlord and uniting the tribes ala Genghis Khan and establishing new order in defiance of Eywa. Bonus points if they Jake and his family
>>216845743Oona definitely did that to Lang that night
>>216845743I don't get the femdom angle. Varang seemed perfectly happy to get fucked by him
>>216845662I think you'd be a better human villain than a whaler for Avatar 4. Understandable, sympathetic, but horrific from the native's perspective. I'd root for you.
>>216845831oh she would be into that for sure, but she likes being dominant and is naturally that way. My favorite type of woman.
>>216845589One day, this conversation will be had.The water folk will be wives to earthwalkers.
>>216845758That's what I hope their going for with the next installment.
bread?
>>216845848I'm no villain. I love dolphin girls.
>>216846118>>216846118>>216846118
