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who the fuck is tammy
the gay show?
>>216877283https://gofile.io/d/lwmQ7W
Nancy and Jonathan broke up?
>>216877345The writing was so bad no one realized it but yes
sex with steve
how is mrs wheeler able to talk all of a sudden? i thought her throat got slashed up
>>216877283I watch a lot of slop but these last three episodes are really something special in terms of being completely irredeemable garbage. The acting is beyond horrendous outside of Holly and Max as well.
>>216877283I don't watch the show, can I get qrd on why redditors are losing their minds over this.
So is this as bad as the last season of GoT?
>Okay! Holly! You're watching, in PERFECT detail, your mom getting gutted like a fish by a horrible monster you didn't know existed. Don't forget, you're supposed to be somewhere around 7-10, this is literally the worst, most nightmarish thing that you could possibly conceive of as your character. And the only assurance you have that she's alive is that the guy who butchered her and kidnapped you implied it, so you have no reason to trust him.>Max, this is one of your best friends' moms. You've probably hung out in her basement and said "Thanks Mrs. Wheeler" when she ordered a pizza. You're seeing yet another treasured member of your community get MANGLED by the Upside Down!>So just get in that headspace, and we need some emotional reactions!>ACTION!
>>216877399It's much worse.
>>216877283I didn't even know Byler was a thing until these Season 5 generals. Kek trannies always lose even in the fiction their allies create for them.
>>216877359>>216877345>unproposal What the FUCK was that scene?
why is finn so fucking ugly now holy shit
>>216877399worse. at least game of thrones had tits
>>216877283Normies are JUST NOW figuring out that most characters in this show don't do anything anymore? The whole reason they invented these fake character relationships in their heads was because there isn't actually anything in the show. They made it up because the writers didn't make anything, the characters don't do anything except explain shit to the audience by referencing pop culture.
>>216877399GoT was worse in narrative structure. S5's actual plot as-is could be done well (or at least better), it's just not.S5 is significantly harder to watch, however.
>>216877382>Holly and MaxNo, their acting is also awful.
They took the most abused kid and turned him gay. Vecna treated him like an object and shoved a tentacle down his throat. Abuse like this to a kid usually shows up as homosexuality. Great social commentary by the Duffers
>>216877399It's not abrasive enough for normalfags to hate it quite yet but I think it will age extremely poorly. It will be in the honeymoon period for a weeks while people are eating up the big emotional character moments. But there is a case for S5 having the worst writing in the show by a huge fucking margin.
>>216877379They need another epic girlboss moment because they wrote their characters into a corner and needed to bail them out
Was the coming-out scene necessary?
So who was the guy that shot Henry and what was in the suitcase?
>Holly's crush is black
>>216877423>why is finn so fucking ugly now holy shitHe's Jewish
>>216877405Should've told them to act like they're on the casting couch again.
Even if it was always slop, it was never this awful. The writing, the acting, the "plot", it's like Sy Fi tier. I thought Episode 5 would never end, I almost started fast forwarding through it because it was unwatchable. And really, nothing happened at all in these 3 episodes except Max waking up and the explanation of what the UD is. All the characters, except Max, have done absolutely nothing important these 3 episodes except get lost and come back to the group. This entire season has just been a set up for the finale. Which will absolutely NOT land, I can't even imagine how mediocre and anticlimatic is going to be.
>>216877456Nobody, and mindflayer particles.
>>216877465Stop noooticing.
>>216877382I love Holly character but rest of this season is bad
Holly is genuinely great. I am loving the character.
>>216877456Poop, pee
I think s5 will end up worse than s2
>>216877451>Was the coming-out scene necessary?Yes, to promote the idea that being a fag is ok. That's all this shit is about. Promoting that faggot shit to mentally ill and impressionable young people. No other reason. There was zero reason to make Will gay other than to create gay propaganda.
>>216877456>who was the guysome drug addict>what was in the suitcasebath saltswhole show is young henry's drug trip trapped in that well.
Is she the only non Hopper character from the main cast to have killed?
>>216877477>>216877487The only good part of this season, that actress is the only one who gives a shit. I hope she gets more roles after this and all the other actors retire
>>216877487She's out of character compared to her previous appearances, but she's the least shitty character in season 5.
no reason for steve to act like a dick towards dustin
>>216877501It's already better than season 2>>216877508I agree>>216877509The character was a nothing burger before this season anyways
>>216877444>Fujoshi and trannies bandwagon onto a great, popular show's F-tier followup>Said fujos and troons pretend this complete garbage is actually really good and the haters either don't get it, had expectations too high, or are retarded>All discussion absolutely ruined>Season will be completely forgotten months after it airs, only showing up for bought-and-paid-for industry awards at the end of the year>Fujos and troons abandon it for the next big thing to obsess over>Season gets its deserved reputation as slop in discussion with a digital footprint of hilariously over-inflated reviews and public discussions from when it first came outhey WAIT i've seen this before
>normies and queers overlooked how blatantly terrible Vol. 1 was because of Will getting powers>now that Will has come out and nobody gave a shit they will stop pretendingIt's over for the Duffers
>>216877451They need to tell children that being a genetic dead-end is healthy for Western civilization, it's very necessary to the plot
>>216877283Steve might be glazed too much, but it's honestly warranted; he is pretty much the only reason to keep watching the show, as his character is the only one that got better with time.>Mike is great in season 1, but then becomes a nothingburger up until season 5. They keep insisting on making him do scenes with Will despite both actors having 0 chemistry between them, a single casual scene between Finn and Caleb is better than any important scene between Will and Mike thanks to this.>Lucas, much like Mike, is just there most of the time and gets relegated to Max Bf>Will is a plot device and a passive character most of the time, and Noah went from probably the best kid actor to the worst of the kids after season 3. He doesn't have chemistry with almost anyone and, again, is a really passive and McGuffin character.>Joyce fell from the face of the earth after season 1>Murray is just there for no fucking reason; he doesn't really serve a purpose.>Jonathan fell off hard after season 2, probably the worst fall off>Nancy girlboses too close to the sun and becomes fucking Rambo>Hopper lost most of his depth and became an action hero>Robin became Reddit quirky lesbian, massively flanderized from her season 3 character to the point it's a whole different beast>Dustin was mostly great, but this season made him a moody asshole; at least it kinda paid off.After all of this, Steve being funny, having screen presence and advancing the plot its a Godsend, and it makes it so you root for him.
>>216877532this is exactly what happened, volume 1 was way worse than volume 2 but since there was no kino finale for them to eat up now they can see how bad the whole season is
How does she have this many followers?
>>216877535I'm just wondering, if I'm already a genetic dead end, what's the harm?
>>216877503Yet gays think that scene was actually homophobic
fujos always lose
The people who said 10 years ago they should have stuck to their original idea to make this a seasonal anthology, I didn't really agree with them at first, but fuck me have they been proven right beyond any shred of doubt. What a joke this show became.
>>216877487I think her cape is adorable
>>216877345yeah nancy needs her fix of steve’s (canonically) huge cock
>>216877554>Yet gays think that scene was actually homophobicHow?
The best Bylercuck melties are on Shawn Levy's IG. They thought he was an "ally" because he posted one pic with Finn and Noah
Half the people in the room believed Vecna made Will gay.
>>216877554>Yet gays think that scene was actually homophobicGood. I hope they suicide from seeing it.
Just finished it but didnt quite get the wormhole part. So what if the upside down is not connected directly and is through a wormhole? Does that even change anything? Or is the abyss supposed to be even different than the upside down. is there where vecna is physically?
>>216877579Because Mike didn't immediately got on his knees and sucked his cock. Fags didn't care about Will coming out or even being gay, they wanted Mike to be gay.
Imagine waiting almost 10 years for this garbage, lmaao.
>>216877579mike didnt reciprocate will's feelings.
>>216877519>S1 dick jock boyfriend who rises to the occasion and proves himself to be more than he appears>S2 babysitter mentor has-been who>S3 fucking loser immature retard who is less a mentor to the kids of Hawkins and more a manchild who is arguably lesser than them>S4 poonhound who desperately wants to fuck his ex>S5 moronic idiot asshole who literally fights a child, accuses a man who died for him of being a vainglorious suicidal dumbass, proves himself to be Homer Simpson retarded, and gets constantly pissed on by every other character in every scene he's inSteve's character writing has never been consistent. He's been written to be unlikable since S3 but Joe Keery is likability given form so he's managed to survive what the writers have been doing to him until S5, when they managed to finally make me hate Steve.
>>216877589Could-a fooled me
This was so atrocious on so many levels.>quite literally preaching to an audience about LGBT bullshit which is what these shows do to us in real life>utterly irrelevant to the plot>none of the characters care>half of them know almost nothing about Will and some don't know him at all>they unanimously accept him, mind you this is a small Midwestern town in the 80s>he outs Robin as gay and none of them react, it's like the writers forgot >years of build-up for nothing
If no one cares anymore, then Tina webm posting should be brought back.
>>216877562seeing that their idea of a spin-off was a show about the poo squad, i get the sense any anthology we would have gotten would have been just as shit
>>216877550Stranger Things is one of the few pieces of monoculture for zoomers, they all watch it
>>216877630Fuck, wrong image.
>>216877507I'm pretty sure 11 has murdered people.
>>216877602>>216877607That's not homophobia. Homophobia is someone immediately beating him, or refusing to be endangered by him in the upside-down.This sounds like mandating other peoples preferences.
You ARE gonna watch the animated show after this right?
>>216877616>he outs Robin as gayNo, he just named Tammy, nobody knew who the fuck is that except Steve
>>216877579Like I said here >>216877427 the fandom for this show invents relationships in their heads because most of the characters don't actually do anything. They were all expecting Mike to be gay and for Jonathan to marry Nancy. Now they're left with nothing
>>216877644>heel turn in the final actdo you mean babyface turn? cause he’s been a heel the whole series.
>>216877662Jonathan and Nancy was definitely implied the entire show tho
>>216877656I also don't remember who that is, but it's pretty clearly a girl's name and he mentions her in relation to having a gay crush so clearly Will was outing her as gay.
>Derek joins team Max/HollyBASED
>>216877654yeah... no.
>>216877656Robin fucking responds to him and adds that psychedelics were involved.
Offensive product placement and literal gay monologues.
There are way more cons this season than pros.
>>216877656wouldnt jonathan and nancy know too cus theyre all within a year of each other in the show and went to the same school?
>I was wrong....>I was terribly.....>Catastrophically wrong...Do the Duffers just write shit for the trailers? Are they aware that nobody, not even D&D nerds, would ever talk like this?
The show would be much better if they just do group a and group b each having 5 characters Max and maybe two cameo characters each like mr clarkGroup A: Young Adults: Steve, Nancy, Robin, Dustin since he works better here and Perhaps Jonathan.Group B: Mike, Lucas, El, Max and Perhaps Will, him In Perhaps since he is a shitty chatacterDiscard the adults, they just do action slop
>>216877675Nah brah, he fails holly when she needs it
>>216877715Lol that particular line stuck out to me
Why the fuck is Steve still chasing after Nancy? Seems like out of character for him.
>>216877716Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the core cast of kid characters have not been together in a group since season 2. Dustin linked up with Steve and he's been with him ever since. It's absurd.
>>216877756Because Maya Hawke derailed the show by making Robin lesbian and the consecuenses of that have been felt the most in this season
>>216877756they don't have any ideas for the characters. they just go "oh hey remember when steve liked nancy in season 1 I guess we'll have him do that again"
>>216877715All of the lines are like this>Something… grabbed her>Some… thing…… took her just right out of the air>It was him…..>It was Vecna…..>It had to be…..
>>216877791That's called Flanderization and I hate it.
>>216877810I was fucking expecting her to fall into the exotic matter bubble and be pulped, or god-moded
>>216877810>I'm...I'm not like you guys>I...I don't like... I don't like girls>It was him...>It was Mike....>He was my Tammy....
Rockin' Robin
>>216877613>likability given formTrue.Also, he was right about Eddie. His sacrifice was completely pointless.
>>216877598The Upside Down is the wormhole, it connects Hawkins to the Abyss. This was pretty clearly explained multiple times.
>>216877810
>>216877548I cannot take Nancy the hungry skeleton seriously as Rambo at all.And holy shit are you right about Robin. Why does being a lesbian mean she has to be quirk chungus?
>>216877776Yeah, it’s Honestly a Dammed of you do dammed if you don’t because Dustin and Steve work really well together and Dustin does the role of the smart one in the young adult group, Meanwhile Mike Can funcionally do most of the things Dustin does.The only solution would be a News character that covers Dustin role for the young adult group
>>216877756The Duffers have not matured the show at all. Season 1 of Stranger Things had lots of sappy character moments and 80's nostalgia, so they keep it in the show.The 80's nostalgia like Derek's Ghouls and Goblins is just annoying but it's passable, easily ignored unless they do something super fucking awkward like the New Coke bit in S3.However, it has been FIVE SEASONS of the SAME CHARACTERS interacting with each other. There are no sappy character moments that haven't been mined already, and making more is hackneyed because the characters are played out and the stakes have risen so high that the characters getting mired in personal drama makes them retarded beyond the suspension of disbelief.By far the most egregious example of this is Joyce Byers, who played "determined but scared shitless caring supermom" in S1 and has not progressed at ALL. Her only character is being determined but scared shitless supermom and now it makes her look like a bug-eyed nag. The correct thing to do would be to mature the character to the stakes: maybe have her talk with Hopper or even Steve about how she's forced to keep her kids in dangerous situations because Vecna/MF are too big for her to act like a normal mom. Or have her drop the "NO NO NO WILL IT'S TOO DANGEROUS WEAR A SWEATER" shit. But they don't do that, so you get her being a superfluous annoyance.
>>216877854she needs to have sex with steve harrington on camera
>>216877602>>216877602>>216877607>mike, the character whose only motivation in life since S2 has been getting a CRUMB of 11 pussy You’re entirely correct, but how did they delude themselves into thinking it would happen?
>>216877886Fujos are quirky chungus women.Lesbians aren't actually real.This slop is consumed by the quirky chungus women, who can't empathize with anyone but themselves. So they write the empathetic lesbian, as an easy perfect self insert for all the quirky chunguses.
>>216877897>The Duffers have not matured the show at allAgreed. There were attempts at character growth, but they always reset after their respective season
who the fuck is byler
What was that scene with the briefcase and young henry in the cave. Did he get his powers from opening a briefcase? Is that from the mind flayer thing
>>216877474>This entire season has just been a set up for the finale.This is also what I've noticed and what scares me. Think about it. The last season ended on a cliffhanger and we all thought Vecna was already merging with the real world. But they patched that up (quite literally) and have now set up this whole season getting back to that point of Vecna merging worlds. So why the fuck didn't they just start with that instead of having this whole season go back to square 1? The finale is shaping up to be a huge disappointment.
>>216877959You are faking being retarded for 7 years, aren't you?
What are the odds of a sequel series, not necessarily featuring the same characters?
>Vecna will likely be more intimidating and entertaining in his upcoming Dead by Daylight crossover than in the actual fucking show he's from
>>216877991who cares
>>216877886Has she ever murdered people before this scene?
Once you start looking at a show or movie from the perspective of the writers coming up with a plot first and then trying to have their characters explain the logic of those plot decisions to tie them together, you can never unsee it. You realize just how artificial and mechanical everything is. There's no real substance to what you're watching. Essentially it's a series of bullet points masked with hundreds of millions of dollars of special effects.
>>216877994Because he'll be controlled by people who are smarter than both Duffer brothers combined; dipshit 12 year olds.
>>216877991Season 2 was gonna be that and now we're here
Did they fucked up their heights?
>>216877616He doesn't want to be weak-minded when fighting Vecna, and his biggest fear is being alone. Vecna knew this and when he captured Will, showed this potential future to him using the framing of him being gay. His biggest secret used to create his greatest fear. So Will wanted to feel the reality of his real world loved ones accepting him so that he could feel so confident when fighting Vecna that Vecna's faggy mind games would not affect him.tldr Will is gay but you're an actual faggot, and a retard
>>216877994He hasn't been very frightening this season, huh?>stopped by Will>stopped by Will again later >too scared to enter the cave for Max
>>216877991100% Netflix will milk this show for another decade
>>216878028They make bra binders, but they don't exactly make height binders.
>>216877451They only did that because of the dialogue in the first season where Joyce says that other kids call Will a fag. She says it with a hint of "that's a bad thing" with her hushed tone. Plus Mike also says "it's not my fault you don't like girls" to will to point out he's being weird. So, the Duffer's didn't realize most of Netflix's target audience adores being gay so they instead made Will's character become gay so that all of those choices are excused retroactively as being clever.
>>216878029Except Vecna's faggy mind games have not been shown on-screen in this show for Will until this season. We saw more of it for characters that died in the same episodes they were introduced like the cheerleader girl in season 4. The most we ever saw of Will's faggotry was being grossed out when a girl flirted with him and him crying when looking at Mike in season 4. That's it. So no, this big emotional payoff of coming out wasn't worth it
>>216877565Yeah it is. So is her hair.
>>216877647No, silly.That's not homophobia in the minds of the LGTV+, Homophobia in the eyes of the Alphabet Beings, is not immediately celebrating the fag and showering it with validation
>>216878062Nigga you got no gaydar, Will acted gay as fuck since S1
>Jonathan and Nancy banished to the ooey gooey cummy gloop realm10 years of buildup
>>216878029That may be what the writers wanted, but thats not what the writers made.It ignores any reality of fucking coming out, unintentional outing another, and telling someone you have sexual or romantic thoughts about them who do not want or reciprocate them regardless of homophobia.There are to many social problems this cause ontop of being a cartoonish response for it to be taken seriously. and the writer themselves choose for no character to give a shit about the reveal.You understand even making an explicit hypothetical of this scenario make people have bad emotional reactions right? Ok then go tell your brother you hypotheticaly have sexual thoughts about him in front of your and his coworkers and girlfriend, because thats a hypothetical not even as bad as what actually happened.
>>216877994>wants to kill people because spiders are apex predators and he likes spiders >actually he likes to kill people because Papa abused him >actually he wants to create a spy and open secret tunnels from the mothergate to take over Hawkins>actually he needs four kids to open a gate to Hawkins>actually he needs twelve kids to merge Hawkins with the Abyss what a dogshit scooby doo villain
steve diesnancy diesDustin gets even more depressed
>>216878122>10 years of buildup for Will being gay for nothing to happen>10 years of Jonathan and Nancy for her to say "I'm still finding myself"What's next on the chopping block? Mike and Eleven haven't been together much since season 3 they'll probably end that soon
So vecna wants to merge the two worlds? For what though? I dont get it. Lel. It is not like the abyss is his homeland or something. There doesnt seem to be anything there either
>>216878142Can you just have Dunstin die too? Hes a fucking ugly mutant. Does he even have parents canonically?
So, has Nancy killed anyone before? Or are those poor National Guardsmen who knew nothing about Wolf Pack's project the first people she killed?Like, I can almost forgive Hop using the unarmed scientist as bait to be killed by Wolf Pack since the scientists were doing that shit with pregnant women, but the Indiana National Guardsmen are just guys. I mean sure needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and all that shit, but she not only didn't bat an eye, she looked satisfied doing it.>>216878039Him getting duped by people in his own mind makes him such a loser. In season 4 he could see everything you did and kill you no matter where you were. Now he can't even tell what people in his own head are doing or thinking.
>>216878112>someone is threatening to expose you and fuck your life up>expose yourself, it all goes well>"REEE IT'S DEHUMANIZING AND GROSS TO DO THAT"What the fuck do these people want? Confronting your fears is now bad?
>>216878128>BrotherNice shit comparison to the common experience of people learning they're gay by way of realizing they are attracted to their friends.It's a spiritual 80s action/comedy/horror movie. What do you want, them to spend 4 hours meticulously exploring gayness like that movie Moonlight or whatever it's called? It's fine, it was touching, it ain't that deep. Christ people in this thread are like the people hyper analyzing spongebob and finding """issues""". Also I've known multiple gay people who have done that exact kind of admission to everyone. They literally don't know how to do it and it gets so scary that they go fuck it everyone just get into the room so I can tell you I'm gay. Just enjoy the fucking show for what it is, stop being autistic
>>216878161All will be revealed in the finale and considering how much shit they need to wrap up in 2 hours I'm expecting a disaster because nothing really makes sense about this world after 10 years
>Telescope cap if you line it up with the cave is the secret pathis this a joke? Am I being punked?
>>216878169The more I think about this season the more I realize how bad it is.
>>216878103He was 11 in Season 1. The fact that you're so confident in your middle-school child gaydar is concerning.
>>216878161They save it for the final episode, but according to the broadway musical - he's Mind Flayer's cock socket. The dude in the mine was a soviet spy that tried to bail with Brenner's experimental portal tech. Henry gets tossed into the Abyss/Dimension X, and hardcore diddled by the MF for 12h, then kicked out with no recollection of said diddling.
Where are the parents of the characters in this show. Are none of them wondering why their children haven't been home in over 24 hours
>>216878169I don't think she's killed anything. Somehow shooting a shotgun at point blank range at vecna or demogorgons makes her willing to engage in a firefight with trained soldiers I guess?
>>216878181Theres no consequences for the (poorly set up) reveal. That hypothetical is less of an uncomfortable situation than what happened you retard.If you weren't watching this alone you could see that.
>setting up Vecna only for him to Job or aura farm >setting Mike up as the heart and leader only for him to barely have some very short scenes of him leading while Dustin, Nancy, Max and Hopper are the ones calling the shots for most of the run time>setting up Steve and Nancy in season 4 only for her to choose neither him nor Jonathan >setting Will being a fag only for him to have a heavy handed in your face im a fag scene >setting the mindflyier being behind everything again only to left it in the fust of the play nobody sawYou could keep goingWhat the fuck where they thinking
Having a un-proposal scene was the most genuinely satanic shit I've seen in a minute. A complete inversion of a the sacrament of holy matrimony. On Christmas no less? Yes yes, the enduring legacy of saying you shouldn't propose to a woman you've shared the perils of your young life with because maybe it won't be good for your careers or you're both still finding yourselves or she might not love your favorite band! The horror!
Not only was Steve correct about Eddie's death but it also reveals how dumb and contrived it was >we were already safe he just wanted a cool moment to play hero Like yeah that's literally why he died. The creators of the show wanted a cool moment where the punk rock kid plays guitar and dies in a dramatic scene because they refuse to kill off their main cast
>robin saying she likes dick in vol 1 because "lmao lesbian saying she likes dick so funny">robin suggesting steve has a massive cock in vol 2What the fuck is happening.
>>216878224this is why birth rates are down, not because of the economy or whatever, it's all cultural. our shows tell us that marriage is bad and undesirably, and homosexuality is good and should be celebrated
>>216878142Remember this audio leakhttps://youtube.com/shorts/GJ_KVexNhk0?si=uzG73brnNazCNUys
>>216877375Robin being railed by Steven's massive hog
>>216878161Guessing that’s where the real big bad lives and it’s making him think it’s a great plan that will make everyone happy.
>>216878181If it adds nothing to the show, then don't have it at all. That simple. Going from a coming out scene to a scene of characters shooting armies with rifles is nonsense.
>>216878181It felt out of place and destroyed the tension. The whole "I can beat the psychic demigod if I just accept that I love cock" reeks of blue-haired hack writing.
I love Steve "the Hair" Harrington too much to see him die.Will you cry with me when he does?
>>216878181>muliple gay friendsI bet it made people very uncomfortable, whi then lied through thier teeth to quietly cut them off later, and the only ones who stuck around are malicious or brainwashed. OH LOOK ACTUAL CONSEQUENCES, HOW INTERESTING A COMPELLING A DRAMA.
Henry: SUCK MY FAT ONE !
>>216878270If Steve dies I will have to face the fact that I let this show rob 50 hours of my life for nothing
Nancy literally gunning down soldiers was extremely weird. Hopper I get. What is going on, lol
>>216878249>Duffers can't make a coherent action scene for shit>Instead of just letting that little plot hole be and letting it be carried by how well Dustin and Eddie handled it as actors, try to make it intentionally bad in-universe>Now Eddie looks mentally handicapped>Dustin looks like a goofball idiot >Steve looks like a gigantic asshole >Introduces another plothole because it's impossible for Steve to know Eddie died for nothing>The only way anyone but Dustin would know what happened is because of what Dustin told them, and Dustin would have told them he died distracting the Vecnabats for Steve's assassin squadD&D tier
>>216878169>I’ve seen guys like you. You’re le bad soldier guys, so the audience shouldn’t feel bad about me murdering scores of you :^]I guess they want you to believe ALL the soldiers are actually evil black ops mercenary racist and sexists.
>>216878192I missed where she got that telescope cap from. Reminds me of that shitty knife scene from rise of the skywalker
>>216878270The main 4, Steve and Hopper are all safe by the timeskip leaks, the only characters with a slim chance of Dying are El, the Jeet and Perhaps Nancy and Jonathan
>>216878224>you're both still finding yourselvesJonathan isn't finding shit. He's not in love with Nancy. Dude's character arc is just him devolving into a pothead.
>that was the old Holly, if it happened again you would do something> 5 seconds later stands there and does nothing
>>216878326Why are we even entertaining the idea that a 9 year old girl needs to fight monsters and prove her worth
>>216878220S5 is making S4 look extremely shit in retrospect
>>216878314It was just a random fucking telescope she picked up in the cave it is an outline of. There's literaly no context that justifies it, and they aren't going to try. It's only slightly cushioned because they are in memories but its still fucking retarded.
Will Dunston's bullies get killed in the finale? I thought it was pretty sad when they beat him up.
>>216878249It was retarded but I can't say that Eddie made the wrong choice. His other options were to die to a lynch mob in Hawkins or rot in prison for the rest of his life. He wasn't going to have a good life if he survived and I like to think that he knew that.
>>216878342Did it's gonna get plurbin or they're gonna have a riot on their hands
>>216878335We're not, she's the one who brought it up. She could at least have swung it, even if to no effect. Trying is at least something.
>>216878304Like I said earlier, the more you think about this season the more shit it is. Nothing makes sense. It's all plot contrivances and exposition leading to a finale that was really set-up in the season 4 cliffhanger but was delayed until now. I'm going to bed
>>216878029it just doesn't really work when the emotional stakes have to be spelt out to the audience via wooden exposition dialogue instead of actually showing the vecna visions of all his loved ones calling him a dumb faggot and abandoning him (thus making the connection between his fears and him losing the mental battle with vecna)the scene was just gratuitous and most of what it did was badly executed or unearned - including resolving the unrequited feelings for mike (byler deserved a more brutal death)
>Steve sacrifices himself for Dustin because he wants to “play the hero” and make up for the fight>Eleven and Kali will sacrifice themselves, but only Kali dies and Eleven is teleported to some random place where she will live peaceful and no one can find her until Netflix decides they want a sequel to further ruin the seriesFlash-forward to 3 years>Snowbunny and her bull will make 2 babies and they will have powers and sense a disturbance in the force>Eleven will also sense this disturbance and bleed out her nose>Nancy comes back and is engaged to Steve>Will bleeds from his ass and his powers return along with the mindflayer saying yaas>Dustin is at some top nerd school with a shrine of Steve in his dorm>Mike is still standing around in the same spot with his thumb in his ass>Hopper dies of suicide due to being alone because his bitch cares more about ungaying Hawkins for her kid>Holly becomes a punk aficionado and hurts herself daily>the lesbos go full dyke and run the radio
>>216878215Being fair they're pre-'90s National Guard; I can totally buy them being about as good in a fight as a teenager with range time, since that's essentially what they were. Their 'training' didn't amount to much in those days. It's namely the whole carelessly taking lives of innocent people thing I have a problem with.Why did they need to bust through the gate at the MAC-Z again? El just lifted one of the steel grates to get to the gate underneath earlier in the episode. If it has to do with the truck being on the road, we saw that there are grates and thus gates on the roads in Hawkins back in episode 1, and if it's about not flipping the truck going through, I think El flipping it back upright a second time is a better idea than getting in a shootout with the National Guard and killing innocent people, not to mention alerting Dr. Kay and thus Wolf Pack to where you are.If I didn't know any better I'd think the main reasons they went this route are that they didn't want to bother thinking about the physics of the truck going through a horizontal gate (they didn't even need to), they actually didn't know how to clue Wolf Pack into their location for the big finale, and they mindlessly though Hop and Nance shooting National Guardsmen would be badass rather than sociopathic and jarring.This is fucking weird because it's the same shit as season 4 for me; I loved volume 1 but hated volume 2. Both times.>>216878312Thing is Hop did distinguish between the Wolf Pack special forces and the CID grunts, and El tried to avoid killing the grunt on the guard tower and only did so when spotted and showed some reluctance; and the CID guys actually seem to know about the fucked up pregnant shit going on in the Upsidedown unlike the Guardsmen, so it just makes it more weird.
I will give this worthless season credit where it's due, Jonathan telling Nancy that he hated reviewing her articles because she just wanted him to compliment them, even though he did think they were usually great, was pretty good. Good character moment. Completely out of place with how bad the rest of this show is.
>>216878357By "we" I was speaking for the writers. It's just ridiculous they even feel the need to have this emotional arc for Holly. It's okay Holly, you don't need to physically fight Vecna, he doesn't do anything this season but job to Will and Max anyways
>>216878348Saying that is a stronger comeback than "he died for nothing"
>>216878371>Steve sacrifices himself for Dustin>Nancy comes back and is engaged to SteveSo Steve just faked it or Nancy's a necromancer?
>>216878320He should've died in that scene. Here, I'll do one>they fall in>try to escape. Doorknob. >rush to the table>panic, scream help>nobody is coming >Nancy begins to freak out, they both embrace>they both grab onto the remaining furniture and stack it to reach the ceiling >still not tall enough >Jonathan tells Nancy he will help her up. To find her sister and save her.>Nancy doesn't want too leave >He says one of them making it out is better than neither>He boosts her up>He looks around and removes his jacket and swings it up, Nancy is able to finally get a hold. >she goes to lift him up but cant. Jonathan sees this and let's go. Refusing to let her fall back in >Jonathan dies. Nancy keeps jacket. Escapes with others>Nancy finds tape but doesnt play it, keeps it. >later on, at ending. She goes to listen to the tape and finds the ring. Breaks down. Emotional send off for Jonathan and Nancy. Boom.
>>216878286We all will be crying.
>pajeeta knows all this henry shit except that he was still aliveHow the fuck is that even possible?
>>216877283>I LIKE MEN! I LOVE COCK! YOU HAVE NOTHING ON ME VECNABY THE POWER OF EMBRACING PENIS!This needs to the final showdown
>>216877848Everyone should have called him a fag
>>216878301Dire situation, her family is half dead.
>>216878286Why do people want the characters to die? The fuck is wrong with you?
>>216878404Stop anon you're putting more thought into this show than the writers
>>216878391no, she’s just deranged and having a mental breakdown in which he’s still alive and all is well
>>216877283>I LOVE DICK AND ISRAAAEEEELLLL AAAAHHHH Do zoomers really worship this show?
>>216878404That's actually what I thought was going to happen
>>216877911Imagine if Joe Keery and Maya started dating and made a sex tape where they pretended to be Steve and Robin>I'm Steve Harrington>And I'm Rockin' Robin>And I'm about to rock her robin if ya know what I mean>The two proceed to make sweet love which turns into laboured, passionate fuckingIt would be glorious
>>216878404That is so gay and AI slop anon, jesus. "Deaths so the audience feels something" is cheap and lame
>>216878320Jonathan looks like lost puppy after seadon 2. He someone got into the relationship and decides through the rest of seasons to avoid it. No wonder they broke up. His reason to get the ring was becsuse his relationship with het was getting stale.
>>216877283>tv during s1>wow I heckin love this show!!!>tv during s5>fuckin show SUCKS!!! holly is so great though :3You guys aren't subtle.
>>216878253I'm a die hard Steve/Robin shipper at the beginning so by all means, un-gay her. Bonus points if they kill off Will and only then does Mike realizes he wanted Will all along. Go for maximum queer twitter salt.
>>216878417Remember in the first season where a character got dome'd for literally doing everything right? Or another likeable character got killed for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time? We like that. It grounds the show with a sense of reality and consequence. When a character does a stupid thing for righteous reasons they should be put in their place. Not because we require our media to have blood in it to satisfy us, but because we want the writing to live up to previously applied standards. The first season had character's get killed for simply being in the way. Not even for rushing into danger knowingly.
This thread is just pedos hating on fags and I'm here with popcorn enjoying all this seethe
>>216878249Add to that his life in Hawkins would be death by the rest people of the town or a jail. Eddie had no good options so decided to a be for once cool.
I hate the pedosI hate the fagsI LOVE good TVand I hate Stranger Things Season Five
>>216878413>VEECCCNNAAAAAAAAA >VECNA SHOW YOURSELF >MY FAMILY PLUS MURRAY KNOW I EAT CUM ENEMAS NOW, YOU HAVE NO POWER OVER ME>I CAST RECTUM-SEMPRA!
>>216878253I noticed this too. My theory is the Duffers still wanna sneak little things in there implying StevexRobin since it was in the original script for s3 but they know they can't go full throttle and make Robin go for him anymore because the Twitter retards and Tumblrinas who are boiling over the Byler shit would riot if they made Robin bi and in love with Steve
>>216878483The writing is plainly not good this season. At least season 4 was entertaining schlock but this is just aggravating
>>216878454See >>>216878477Nancy and Jonathan had to pay for the conseuquence that they shot at the weird orb without telling the rest of the group. They even hinted at it maybe being a bad idea, but did it anyway. Dustin and Steve had a dumb fight and broke their communication line. This leads to Nancy not being informed, she idiotically steps out of line and behaves recklessly. This gets Jonathan killed. Consequences for actionsIt's writing 101 you fucking dweeb
Santa Claus has good taste.
So Eleven and the jeet are going to sacrifice themselves in the last episode, got it.
>>216878462Wow cool to see another diehard shipper of them in here. I thought it was just me obsessed with them. Ever since I watched s3 all I've ever cared about was StevexRobin and I'll never not be mad they let Maya fuck up their original script and change Robin to being a dyke
>>216878531>El, you don't understand! The only way your story ends is if you kill yourself!What a dipshit she is. It's entirely possible to escape somewhere else and live a happy life in hiding for the rest of their days.
The Jew driving the truck through the gate somehow avoided getting shot by the military. I guess we're playing by stormtrooper rules when it comes to bad guy aim.
Okay so why did they write the drama that Will was "building" the tunnels while asleep?What exactly was wrong with "shit is breaking containment at the lab and is spreading uncontrollably"?
why didn’t the indian psychic girl mask the truck when they broke into the base
>>216878560hack screenwriting
>>216878507GUYS, GO ON AHEAD, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO PUT VECNA'S TENTACLES SO THEY CAN'T HURT ANYONE ELSE. ALSO, I SAW WHAT WAS IN THE PULP FICTION SUITCASE AND IT WAS ACTUALLY THE METAPHYSICAL REPRESENTATION OF HENRY'S REPRESSED GAY THOUGHTS!
>>216878560Dude, they retconned MK-Ultra to make it all about Vecna. A real historical atrocity was retconned for their lame villain.They don't give a fuck and will retcon anything they can to get even a single scene's worth of le surprise. Retconning shit gets them off.
reminder that this is what maya hawke wanted stranger things to be and she got it
>>216878507>VECCNA, I ALREADY TOLD THE WHOLE TOWN I WAS INTO DOMMY FUTA MOMMIES WHO FUCKED MY ASS TO MAKE ME FEEL SAFE, YOU LITERALLY HAVE NOTHING ON ME BRUH
Kali and Eleven are the ultimate sacrife and the person that is going to lunch the bomb.
>>216878563>>216878571
>>216878554Also bulletproof box truck I guess.
>>216878573I wouldn't be surprised if Henry was gay like Will. Henry has chisen him, because they are alike.
>>216878573I can actually see them going this route and making it so that Henry is gay as well and crashing worlds because they didn’t accept him being gay and the experiments were attempts to turn him straight againthe assmad would be delicious if it happened
>>216878591I'm nearly a decade older than Maya and she looks older than women my age.
If Max and Holly had went through each other's portals, would they have swapped bodies?
>>216878457These seem like the correct opinions to have, even if you aren’t a pedophile. Holly’s arc has been the only interesting part of this season.
>>216878627Don't think about the Max shit at all because it doesn't make any fucking sense.
>Mrs. Wheeler went to the basement and rigged a pressure tank IED in a washing machine where she had no idea the Demodogs nor the kids would be>She has no knowledge of bombs>She's also almost mortally wounded and should be incapable of walking>She somehow beat all involved parties to the basement despite them literally trying to get to the basement as quick as they can with their lives at stake
>>216878643What even does make sense in this show at this point, really?
>>216878560Originally, it was just a demogorgon using Will for reproduction. But they decided somewhere along the line that Vecna was a thing, and none of the first season really makes sense if there’s an evil psychic guy just hanging out in the upside down, so they decided to rewrite it having special significance so they could pretend they had everything planned from the beginning, even though they clearly didn’t.
>>216877443vecna legit shoved his dih down will's throat lmao
>protagonists my son>you must enter the upsidedown now>yu must chose were to enter>lifting grate where nobody knows you are and entering safely>or killing innocent people, alerting wolf pack, and breaking into the MAC-Z>...
>the upside down is just a small circle of the town in a flesh wormholeWhat.
>>216878648It's undoubtedly retarded, especially when 11 and crew show up soon afterwards and could have dealt with the threat more handily.
>>216877443It's because his actor is gay and demanded his character be too, actually. The Duffers kinda get a pass on it.
>>216878627I had the exact same thought.>>216878648And then everyone clapped. Turning the demogorgon into a bloody mess with a broken wine bottle was ridiculous enough. Did the actress threaten to walk unless they made her character an action hero or something?
David Harbour looks like he wants to kill himself every time he's on screen
>>216878688They called Will a fag back in the first season.
What happened to this nigga?
>>216878698Sounds like he's drunk half the time too. They probably tried to get him to shave but he threatening to throw a whisky bottle at them or something.
>>216878648Can even the staunchest defender of this show defend shit like this? It’s so obviously just writers inventing contrivances to resolve tensions in the plot. It’s not organic or compelling, it’s just junk. I’m tired of mediocre writing being given a pass
>>216878709He will be """"revealed"""" to be the big bad all along and Henry was a victim.Despite it not being a reveal since it was established in the play, the MF not being seen since the Henry shaping it seen last season, and zero indication of Henry being flayed.
>>216878717Not an empty threat
>>216878709He's Vecna's fursona, remember?Unless they retcon it again.
>>216878648The only explatikn to it is that she heard Robin's talk. How very injured woman has managed to do it ... Anger, andrenaline, revenge - emotions caried her.
>>216878703They didn't plan the rest of the show in the first season. They called Will a fag because that was realistic to the time period and exactly what bullies would call a kid like Will in the 80s. I honestly think the Duffers dgaf about gayness at all, but Netflix does lolThe Duffers later developed Will into being gay. That way all the dialogue looks better.
>>216878709He’s going to return and become the thesselhydra
>>216878648Hasn't it also been like, maybe a day since she got shredded by the demogorgon?
>>216878648Don't forget the gang were assaulting the senses while hiding>Sight: legs clearly sticking out from the front of the spot they were sitting>Sound: Had a fucking boombox playing and were talking>Smell: Sweaty from running through an entire hospitalI don't know why they choose the worst ways to write situations.
>>216878648>>216878719I don't care 1>5>4>3>2
>>216878719They think it's epic. Like YAAAS KAREN YAAAAS
>>216878733>Check this account expecting some obviously fake shit>Find corroborating reports on Instagram that he was there and drunk as fuck>Find out he's been confirmed as not attending the finale premiere with no real reason given>This shit is realLMAO
>>216878733What the fuck? Kek
>max is being a pain in the ass fucking up his plan>learns where she physically is>just sends 3 easily dispatched dogs instead of a demogorgon that he's been using all season 5 for everythingHow can the shows defenders defend this level of contrived writing?
>>216878733>I called my partner Fuckin reddit holy shit
How did Vecna find Max via Will if Will was nowhere near Max And also wasn’t Vecna able to track down kids anywhere in season 4? Why does he need a proxy like Will to begin with now?
>>216878791Is this what Lily Allen does to a mf?
>>216878733>>216878791>>216878803>YOU NEED TO TAKE ME TO ESCONDIDO NOW YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!>YOU ARE NOT THEIR FATHER! YOU ARE NOT THEIR FATHER!
>>216878733>>216878791Okay what the fuck, my post was half shitpost and now it might have been what actually happened lmao.
>>216878733Okay he is clearly destroying his brain with drugs
>>216878825Probably probing his memories like 11 does to the special forces guy.
>>216878825They changed their minds on how Vecna works.
>>216878825He checked his memories.But you're absolutely right in that Vecna was nerfed and nerfed hard. He was able to check people's memories without dragging them into his mind in season 4; shit he could see through their eyes 24/7.Now the people inside his own mind can conspire against him in it and he's none the wiser.
>>216878880Same guys who fucking retconned reality to make it all about their lame villain.I wonder if the Tuskegee syphilis experiment was also always about Vecna same way MK-Ultra was. How many historical events could they make actually all about Vecna if this show went on another season or two?
>>216878910don’t worry, they’ll be doing AIDS when they do a sequel in a few years
>>216877465really?
>>216878733So I guess this means those rumors about Millie on set were 100% true too
>>216877345I'll admit I'm only half paying attention at this point, I definitely thought that scene was them uncucking themselves and getting out of their own ways, and the 'unproposal' I thought was weird phrasing but I thought it was like>will you 'not-marry' me... because we're about to die, so you know, we won't be getting married.
>holly vomits up smoke instead of a gross slimy slug thing>vecna's child rape dungeon is well lit and dryThey've really toned down everything huh.
>>216878733At least he made it to Escondido
>>216878984That’s what I thought too. They were ironically saying they wouldn’t marry because they were about to die, but they still kept saying I loved you. But according to the writers, it was an actual breakup scene. Somehow
>>216877554Not gays. Straight women. They're the only ones who care about this shipping bullshit.
>>216879001Proof?
>>216877283Noah is so isch
>>216878955Yeah they're not attending any events anymore either lol
>>216879045My functioning eyes? Beginning of episode 7.
>>216878924After narrowly escaping death following the failed merging of the worlds, Vecna realizes that the unlimited power of open homosexuality makes his direct takeover of Earth all but impossible. Having anticipated this possibility a full decade in advance using his precognitive powers, he secretly created a contingency for his failure by manipulating the CIA to carry out experiments mixing mindflayer particles into the reproductive cells of proud African natives. Timeskip, Will is enjoying his life in New York City as a college-aged homosexual in the 90's. After a long, passionate night with several African exchange students he feels an all-too familiar chill on his neck... Vecna.
>>216879056Yeesh. Wonder what he was saying to her on set while drunk
>>216879013If Steve ends up with Nancy I am going to be so pissed.
>>216879078>You NEED to take me to Escondido
>>216879046I learned that apparently he's gay in real life.Is there a valid argument to be made that netflix groomed him by casting him as a closeted gay character when he was a young child?
>>216879079How many times in this season Steve needs to repeat that Nancy is his friend. He repeated it during his fight with Dustin.
>Fuck, I've gotta get to Escondido
>>216878955Elaborate?
Oh god the world is about to end and you need to leave in 5 minutes and you're wasting everyone's time telling them that you're GAY? Didn't everyone already know this like a season or two ago? Good GOD.
>>216879131She has some formal complaints against him. I don't think the content of them is known in any detail though.
Wtf is Davidposting gonna be a thing now?
>>216879098No, I think half of the cast is lgbt irl.
>>216879134 #He need this out of his way so Vecna can't use it against him.
>>216879098I 100% believe he got molested when he was a kid and now he's been groomed into it. Probably had Jew dicks in his ass and mouth. Disgusting
>>216879144Something is going on with him (Lily Allen).
>>216879046>>216879098I fantasize about riding his cock really good and making him realize pussy is where it's really at. No I won't post tits on a blue board, feel free not to believe me about wanting to "correction rape" Noah into being straight but I was born with a pussy and ovaries and I would love to feel Noah's reluctant hot load fill me up
>>216879160Pretty sure half of gen z is lgbt irl The other half are incels
>>216879134He's forced himself to face his fears of judgement and being ostracized. It's like not believing in IT's illusions to deprive them of power. Except Henry has other powers that don't require his victims to be afraid. And Will's timing is terrible.
>>216879144Depends. Are you going to get me to Escondido or not?
>>216879046He's cute tho. He'll decide he's bisexual when the show is out of public eye, then go radio silent for a bit then marry a woman. Right now he's keeping career doors open by being 'gay' on socials.
>>216879172Maybe you are right?
Man, that was fucking awful. Felt like a repeat of the last season where the first volume was actually decent but then the second volume descends into the schlockiest, melodramatic garbage imaginable. These characters are having the same arguments for 5 seasons. We have MULTIPLE exposition dumps in the second last episode of the series>erm, so like you aren't going to believe but there is this place called da upsid downThe only redeeming quality of this season has been Holly's arc, the actress they parachuted in is quite good (despite shitty writing), even her arc has been tainted by Sadie Stink
>>216879193Noah "Gaza must be flat" Schnapp
>>216879105girls btfo
>>216877962nonono, the last season ended with the upsidedown already breaking and leaking into the real world. It was a massive, cool cliffhanger... which ends up being UTTERLY IRRELEVANT, the military just put some metal plates on top and this was apparently okay for Vecna and he doesn't care and how did this help his plan with what exactly? lol this is Dr. Who tier, constantly teasing some great enemy/event and it never ends up mattering whatsoever.
>>216879204Except there's screenshots of him in guy's DMs telling them they have nice dicks and him subscribing to guy's OFsBut sure, he's secretly straight
I'm starting to think the Duffers don't like writing
>>216879212Zoomers think everybody needs therapy for everything. Oddly therapy doesn't seem to make them better or happier, yet everybody needs it for some reason.
Why doesn't Indian girl just kill herself and stop bumming out El?
>>216879230There's guys with wives and kids who jerk off to all sorts of weird shit.
>>216879237Nah it makes them better and happier; you should see zoomers WITHOUT therapy.
>>216879237I've noticed this too. Everyone under 30 has these insanely shit living conditions but somehow has money for therapy every 2 weeks.
>>216879237Psychology is largely fake and gay and therapy is the way they convince people society being soul crushing is their fault while medicating them to not feel the normal human emotions in response to living in Hell.
>>216879231They should have just stuck to copying Anime. Just made season 5 a carbon copy of TTGL and called it a day.
Where the fuck is Paul Reiser?
>>216879251If you think everyone under 30 goes to therapy, then that means you haven't seen zoomers without therapy.I have, and they need therapy.
WILL IS GAY !
>We support you Will, no matter what!meanwhile in the actual 80s:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9f378T49E
>>216879243Indian girl doesn't even need to die, she just wants to kill El, or for El to die.Her goal is killing henry and El so the military can't make more clones, she knows she herself isn't a good source and doesn't really care if she dies. Maybe she thinks it would be good to hedge her bets if she died, but she NEEDS El to die. Much like David Harbor NEEDS you to drive him to Escondido.
>>216879253I didn't believe this but as I've gotten older I've noticed therapy never seems to have a conclusion. They never want to help you fix what's wrong, just keep you coming back every week or so, put more money in the box, and you get to talk to someone who's perpetually on your side for an hour.The entire thing is flawed from the get go because even if the therapist wanted to actively help, they're only getting the patient's account of things. Even a well adjusted person is a terrible eye witness, so can you imagine one of these people who see microaggressions everywhere recounting an event?
>>216879273They left him in that cell
first robin, now will. at this rate, the finale is going to just be 2 hours of every other character coming out as gay, especially max.
>>216879277I don't care what generation it is. You can't tell me paying someone $600 a month is worth it when it's destroying your quality of life to do it.
>>216879223Theyy shot themselves in the foot by not wrapping this up by say... S3.Ever since S3, they keep getting fucked in the ass by random bullshit in between the seasons, while the goblins are aging out of their roles in between the takes lmao.S4 got fucked by the koff and delayed into production hell for 18 months.While S5 got butt fucked by the SAG-AFTRA strikes for like two years before it finally go into production.It leads to having to "invent" timeskips in universe to expain why the kids look like their in their 20 now and grow a literal foot in between scenes, but that requires resetting the status quo.The bravest choice, but not something they were willing to to just fucking roll with it. Cold open the season with a 5 year time skip to roll with the goblins maturing, and have everyone dressed like fucking stalkers in the Zone. And go full post apo.
>>216879303Medicaid can cover therapy, you know.
>>216878341She got it from Henry's house.
>>216879291Therapy has an incredibly high failure rate, but it's not necessarily because the methods don't theoretically work, it's because 90% of people don't put the work in to help themselves (which is part of the arrangement with therapists, typically). You can argue that a 90% failure rate means 'the methods' don't work since people don't do them, but you can say the same thing about weight loss and we all still agree everybody knows how to lose weight if they don't have to actually put the effort in and do it.Barring that therapy is often about mitigating the issues rather than solving them. So like other anon says (idk if it applies to zoomers) but while somebody might still suck, they likely would suck more if they weren't in therapy.
>>216879319Why the fuck do poor people just get everything for free, when I can't afford therapy and my formal insurance and benefits would net me a grand total of like 2 and a half therapy sessions a year.
>>216879319The current goverment has gutted medicade.
>>216878341It's Henry's.It's an important plot device in the musical, since it's signed and when Henry drops it in the mines after being diddled by the MF, Brenner uses it to track him down.
I didn't mind Metal Gear Nance because her odd angular face makes her look more like a super soldier than Metal Gear Hop
>>216879278So who's the guy he has a boner for?
>>216879291They've just re-invented Catholicism. Oh you childhood trauma (original / mortal sin) has stained you and wounded you. You will deal with the consequences for the rest of your life (concupescence). Now this is a safe space where you can be open and I will tell no one (confession). And only I can be trusted to guide you because I have all the answers (spiritual direction) Now. I'm not saying this is true for all cases. But for the vast majority of atheistic dummies? Yep. They just use therapy as a replacement for the role structured religion would play for them if they were born 200 years prior.
>>216879319Most therapists don't take it. You'll get a clinical session to get you on mood drugs and then they cut you loose. No talking, no behavior modifying, just take the brain drugs.
Granted I have barely a skin deep level of knowledge about fantasy shit since my thing is sci-fi, but wouldn't Will be a warlock, not a sorcerer?>wizards are nerds that lean spells>sorcerers are born with innate powers through their bloodline>warlocks gain power through dark rituals or other "unnatural" ways
>>216879348Because they deal with worse shit in a lot of other regards and medical bills would completely kick them over the edge and just make them homeless or dead.Also don't blame the poor; blame private insurance companies for sucking you dry and the government for not adopting universal healthcare.
>>216879379They actually mention that sorcerers have power innately and that's why they call Will one, even though he only has his powers due to Vecna. It's weird.
>>216877613What the hell are they doing to Steve and why are they throwing away the best pair in the series? What..... are we supposed to not like him or something?>>216877548I find it too easy that Robin manage to turn a woman bisexual but Steve who was a womanizer is still alone 5 fucking seasons in and they had to bait the watchers with a surprise lesbian.
>>216879243angie sex
Meanwhile, Dad still chilling at the hospital bed.
>>216879374The difference was, for better or worse, the head of the church 200 years ago was involved in the community and knew everyone. So there was at least some level of familiarity with it.We've been replacing these things with artificial stand ins and it's sickening. You even see it with weddings. People don't have a friend or a priest or even a mentor do the ceremony, they hire someone and play wedding mad-libs with and they pretend to know you. It's weird.
>>216879243'scu me!
>>216877613>literally fights a childDude fucking Darius attacked him and he didn't even really hit back. He just tried to restrain him or shove him away.
>>216878341She got the telescope from Henry’s house
>>216878202Didn't they show in Season 4 that Brenner started out as normal doctor who happened to have Henry as a patient and then noticed his powers?
>>216878408Who do you think helped her escape?Although unlike El, she wasn’t stupid enough to remove his power dampener from his neck before she left.
Damn that stupid play no one will ever see really fucked up the lore of this show
>It's a terrible vicious cycle but we can stop it.Lmao faggots btfo.
>>216879374Major difference is that confession doesn't cost $500 + tip, you don't get zonked out of reality by an aggressive schedule of psychoactive drugs, and what qualifies as sin is well-defined. Plus, you get some degree of actual community from religious institutions.
>>216877325i think the update is somehow sexier if that's even possible
>>216878611Nope.Henry likes black girls as shown in the prequel play.
>>216877644I only heard about the play when the first 4 episodes dropped and I hate everything about it and I hate that it's now canon.
>>216879471I just assumed illusion powers, and she just fucking walked out the front door basically.
>>216879098Yeah there is a pretty valid complaint about 60 year old jewish men casting couch 11 year old boys.
>>216879476>what qualifies as sin is well-definedI think many people would beg to differ. There's some stuff where you'll get different answers from within the same denomination, even.
>>216877654The animated show will be more faithful to the decade it depicts because animation doesn't have the limitations of live action.But it remains to be seen if the plot will be decent.
>>216879476Sins were well defined by Catholic until the last century or so. >one of the points of the Sermon on the Mount is that Jesus said when you look at a woman with lust it's just as bad as actually doing it>Catholic Church teaches that homosexuality is disordered>"it's ok to have gay thoughts, just don't act on them!" Right on.
Lumax forever!!!And now we have Holly/Josh!
Bros, that bodysuit...
>>216879374>>2168794762 people that have never been to church or therapy
Nigga lives in a dead spider looking thing.
>>216879510As a catholic, there's 2 main ways to tell if you're sinning.Does it break one of the 10? Then yes.If it doesn't, did you feel guilty about it? Then also yes.The former are mortal sins which you cannot confess out of typically. Or more accurately, if the priest is worth their salt, they'll say your penance is to turn yourself in/admit to it and be judged by man so you can seek atonement and forgiveness from God.The rest is venial sins which a few hail marys and a donation in the collection plate can fix.
>Only 2 hours leftThey're going to waste time on the play aren't they?
>>216879459Well it turns out that Brenner was actually a super intelligent theoretical physicist who invented the technology to create wormholes across space and time back in the 1940s though it is never mentioned or alluded to throughout the entire show
>>216879541she's my wife, no nigger can have her
Jonathan smells like fruity poop
>>216879237There was someone earlier today saying starving kids need therapy.>why are you here?>I didn't eat breakfast>and how does that make you feel?
>>216879556So aside from the 10, what is and isn't a sin depends on how remorseful a person is. So inconsiderate assholes ultimately end up sinning less than worrywarts by nature?
>>216879576Inconsiderate how though?
>>216879459Yeah, that was retconned.Brenner's dad was the captain of the USS. Eldridge. I.e; the Philadelphia Experiment ship. Military accidentally teleported the ship into the Abyss/Dimension X, and the whole crew but Brenner sr. got got by Demogorgons and shit. Brenner's dad survived, but was changed at biological level and died because he was injured and transfusions didn't work on him now. But before croaking he spilled to his son about the alternate dimensions and shit.Opening a gate to the Abyss/Dimension X was Brenner's goal along, Henry and the kids were just the means to an end, he couldn't have given less of a shit about MK. Ultra if he could, he co-opted the project for his interdimensional bs.
>>216879558They have to now. I don't know why they didn't elaborate on it in the mine when Henry killed that dude.So when the big "reveal" happens it's going to get 2 reactions>yeah we knew this for years and>wtf is this asspull? the show said he was in charge and there was never any indication otherwise
what happened to her screentime?
>>216879348Use AI chat.
>>216879554 Looking from the inside, I think it might transform into thessalhydra.
>>216879585Like they don't realize or care if they upset someone or ruined someone's time so long as they didn't mean to do it.There are also people who feel guilty about a shitton of things from stepping on bugs to getting a stiffy ever. Just seems like it punishes the considerate and empathetic and rewards the inconsiderate and apathetic.
>>216879558They have no choice after showing that small bit of Henry even killing in the cave.
>>216879554That thing is going to "activate" when the 12 kids ritual happens isn't it?It has knuckles and joints in the limbs.
I don't know shit about the play. So is the mindflayer not Vecna's spider fursona like the show explicitly told me in season 4?
>>216879647Nope. Mindflayer is the big bad in charge and Henry got flayed when he was like 10.The show explicitly stated the opposite of this and still never lets on hints that he was a victim.
Poor beamwt, Steve needs to get his car back. I think his car might be used once more.
>>216879662Fucking dumb. Thanks for elaborating.
>>216879212I would wager he's alluding to his probable molestation yes>>216879219Idc if he wants the Palestinians killed he's cute and I want to ride him. I want him to see how good pussy is, he just needs a girl to take charge and give it to him real good. But I guess talking like this, I'm just as bad as the hypothetical molestors huh
>>216879671I mean beamer.
>>216879641This is happening, the inside even has teeth.
>We should use a bomb to destroy the bridge>*Massive zoom in on Hopper*I think Hopper is going to suicide the particle and take all the government people with him, and hopefully 8.
If you told me in S1 that Brenner was actually a theoretical physicist I would have said you were on something.I would have told you that too in S4 too actually.
>>216879647Vecna is Mind Flayer's cock socket. When Henry was but a wee babby, the MF fucked all his orifices for many hours straight, and it was so traumatic for wee Henry that he suppressed the memory, while the MF subtly pressed his buttons turning him into a psycho, while he gaslit himself into thinking that it's his own idea.I just hope they don't ass pull his NIGGER lover from the stage play into the show proper and have them beat the Mind Flyaer with the power of love.
>>216879722>NIGGER loverThey can't stop playing this card whenever they get the chance
>>216879682This will never work. Gays are mindbroken. Causing them to admit they were traumatized will best case scenario cause a psychological break split personality scenario.
>>216879710Hopper had to many fake death scenes. This time someone else is going to hijack his sucidal mission.
>>216879616Congratulations, that's how you keep poor people poor and pious while rich people stay in charge and "inconsiderate"
I can't believe the most important scene before the finale was Will confessing to everyone that Derek convinced him to suck a fat one.
>>216879742So the only way to fix him is to have him acknowledge his molestation trauma that made him gaslight himself into thinking he likes cocks up the ass because the thought he hated it when it was happening was so traumatic he has now tricked his dumb brain and body into retroactively liking it to block out the trauma?What are you suggesting?Either way, fucking him and riding him and forcing him to cum through straight sex over and over would be super hot. If he was mindbroken from the molestation why can't he be mindbroken again in the reverse-way?
>>216879576Pretty sure recognition of a sin is only necessary for the venial-mortal distinction. Anything explicit choice that is incommensurate with the commandments or Christ's precepts generally falls under sin in one of the two categories. It's formalized enough that the vast majority of questions concerning whether or not something is sinful can be looked up. For denominations without confession, the metaphor doesn't really apply since a Protestant pastor doesn't really mediate the process of repentance. >>216879549False
>>216879722In the trailer with the song "Show must go on" you can hear that a woman is singing "that day I can pray" (souds like a church music and I think it's nod to her).
Have the writers ever been in a relationship? Because what the fuck was that breakup that I didn't even realize was a breakup until I saw it confirmed as one online.
>>216879836It feels like they're just undoing everything that made S1 feel special. Like it was such a surprise that Steve turned out to be a cool guy but still lost the girl.
>>216879802>FalsePretty embarrassing for you then to be so wrong about both.
lmao that faggot kid was in love with the wolfhard kid
the dialogue has gotten so FUCKING CRINGE2nd monitor syndrome is too real in the newest episodes
>>216879836Why are so many people confused about the breakup scene? Seemed fucking obvious to me.
>>216877345White couples are unironically banned in netflix shows
>>216879866>It feels like they're just undoing everything that made S1 feel special.That started in season 2 don't act surprised now
>>216879875If only I were
>>216879836It has nothing confusing. They broke up.
>>216879789It will literally be a different person. They will not remember what happens to their other self. You will think they are finally coherent and then they will just revert to how they were and act like they blacked out. It's like the nightmare people have with alzheimer patients. It won't just be sex either; actual triggers can be things like laughter.
>>216879927Holly is the first character to behave like a female in 50 years of jewish programming and at this point it had to have been done unintentionally like they did it to show she is dumb and childish.
>>216879923It seemed like a cute way of proposing since he couldn't properly propose the way he wanted since they were about to drown to death in a cum pit
this season has been awful Xmen shit
>>216879996She's gonna date a black guy
>about to get sucked into space>a portal just happens to open up nearbyWow that sure is handy. Let's just gloss over that nothing except demogorgons and vecna can open portals.
Netflix is going to put this faggot shit in all the WB shit
>>216880043Be glad she is going to date a guy!
Karen remind me terminator.
goddamn this man is perfect
>>216879944therapy isn't confession and if you do therapy that way they'll probably tell you you're doing it wrong(unless you committed actual crimes i guess)therapists can't prescribe drugsyou can confess mortal sins and most of them wouldn't require turning yourself into the authorities to be judged by man
>>216880189>here's your highly competent and fit soldier i was telling you about
>>216879972This is so interesting. Too bad we'll never truly get to see this sort of thing explored in any serious depth whether in fiction or reality. How do you know this is how it works, anon? Experience with someone you tried to fix?I wish we could fix all the characters in this how who need fixing
Can someone actually post or direct me to this season's leaks? When I search in the archive I can only find people describing them.
Thread is on page 10
I still feel that Steve might die, it's his plan, Dustin is back. That bomb, that scene with the tower when Robin reminds him not to get fried.
>>216880380Damn this show is dead
>>216877345The leaks already confirmed she's going to end up with Steve.
>>216880479>>216880479
>>216880482Wut.Sauce.
