Anti-Human as fuck!
>>216896523>anti-ZOG as fuckftfy
Humans, including Jake, have been a net negative for the Na'vii. The movie even has the audacity to have the main white guy self-insert call his wife a heckin reverse-racist for being justifiably upset about everything she knows and loves being destroyed because of them and wanting the other white boy self-insert disaster magnet gone.
Do we really need three movies just to tell us that humans are bad
is it antihuman to want to slam some giantess catpuss? nofuck you
>>216896523Really? Because most of the characters spend the movie rejecting the native traditions
>>216896523>water avatar>fire avatarWill James do a wind-coded and earth-coded avatar for the next two?
>>216896523>Anti-Human as fuck!its anti chud, and chuds arent human
>>216896523>marry>have a life long monogamous relationship with your spouse>have many children>make your family your fortress and always, always, always support each other>fathers should protect their families>mothers should support their husbands>pray, make your faith the bedrock of your life>be a member of your community>preserve your culture>conserve the environment, go outside, build things with your hands, eat wholesome food, be capable>don't let yourself give in to hate. Focus on the people you love and let them help you in hard timesTruly this is marxism
Neytiri was a major chud
>>216897708Avatar 1 was the Earth Avatars you silly billy.Avatar 5 will be the combination of them all when Jake Sully achieves the Avatar State through Eywa
>>216897891Avatar 1 was windAvatar 4 will be the Dwarfvatars tunneling down the Earth
>>216896523No, the humans in it are anti-human. They're aware the whales are just straight up people who have a complex society, and a fully mutually intelligible language, but they still authorize hunting them. That's not hunting an animal, that's just mass murder.
>>216897391>wife a heckin reverse-racistWhat?
>>216898104As Ribisi said in the first movie you can't chuck a stone on Pandora and not hit something holy.
>>216896523always has been. anyone finds the mary sue weaver character annoying as fuck and sloppily done btw? you can immediately tell it's that old tranny underneath the cgi pretending to be a teenager. creepy
>>216896523It is anti-colonialism. The Na'vi are hardly distinct from humans: they are tall, blue, and have other superficial differences in their anatomy. Ender's Game was anti-human and anti-establishment and for good reason that the human governments will most likely engineer a hoax to genocide another intelligent alien species using trained psychopaths; it is relatable.
>>216898104murder refers to humans. >inb4 there's more synapses in their brain than in ours and they write songs n shietgive me a fucking break. it's a whale with two sets of fins. how is them getting hunted any different from the whales being killed by any other predator
>>216898535It's very awkward and even more so because her arc seems to be a prophet/holy person one and because of that jake is still just basically a combatant and family man. They did that prophecy thing with jake in the first movie but that played itself out quickly then discarded.all this Kiri thing is really lame. if you entirely omit her from the second movie for instance you lose absolutely nothing. it's like she's pasted in from a different script draft or just Cameron's coomer fantasy add-on.
If loving Varang is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
>>216897785This is what the movie is really about.
>>216898582She's whatever as fuck, dude, just an evil generic woman.
>>216898999you have James Cameron derangement syndrome
>>216897785A person can only aspire to a lifestyle like this if they respect something more than themself The average person in modern times only cares about themself.
>>216898999She is beautiful and fierce.
>>216897891Fifth Element did it better imo
>>216897708Aang should show up in the last one
>>216896523Based!
>>216899528>2049>Avatar 17 releases>Avatar the Last Airbender is finally revealed as part of the same cinematic universe
>>216896523I used to be a pro-RDA, kill-em-all fan of these films. Then I had a thought that some of the humans were Indian, and immediately lost all taste for it.
>>216896523Anon, the na'vi are just an idealized kind of human. Almost all popular aliens civilizations are embodying good or bad aspects of humanity and the humans in the stories are displaying the inverse bad or good trait. If klingons are brutish, humans are civil. If vulcans are autistic, humans are passionate. If the aliens are benevolent benefactors, humans are irresponsible. If the navi are harmonious, humans are against nature.
>>216898574the whales are part of humanity
Spider got invited to the cook out. The revolutionary leader is a human and their Jesus is literally born of an avatar. If anything it’s pro human because the film believes we can be redeemed.
I wasn’t able to see the movie till today. Did I miss any good threads?
>>216897785I like how you mixed your fucktarded chud shit in thereFuck you and your stupid religion, kikelover
Cameron won(((CRITICS))) lostAudiences wonGrifters lost
>>216898582>daily threads about avatar for 10 years >XXX DAYS UNTIL AVATAR 2/3/4>threads still going right now>new meme character every movie >quotes repeated on board every single day>people make up new quotes to attribute to their favorite characters"No cultural impact" :(
>>216901041There's always a good Avatar thread, friend! :DWhat was your favorite part?
>>216896523They're anti-Globohomo and prohuman but you're too much of a bugman to see that
8/10The whale scientist's fate was unresolved, probably killed but never shown.It seems it was forgotten that Miles Jr shouldn't be wearing a mask underwater until his final scene.Quaritch was still flying around when Neytiri picked up Jake and Miles Jr so the cut to them being safely away felt premature.I expected an Eywa seedling to land on Miles Jr to save his life so it was good that Jake and Neytiri chose to not kill him.I anticipate the scientists got enough information from Miles Jr for widespread maskless breathing in Avatar 4 without needing to capture him again.I was glad to see Selfridge back and asserting his authority in the nebulous human hierarchy but unfortunately he seemed to have had any nuances to his character ironed out and he doesn't care about Unobtanium or diplomacy anymore.It was bullshit that the Australian whaler survived.It was extremely perverse for the water chieftess to be KIA and give birth just before dying and Tuk still hanging around in the huge battle, in fact the Na'vi don't seem to have a concept of vulnerable people nor that they should be evacuated as this is never shown. I wonder if the decision for the Sullys to run away was because of Jake's human brain and the Na'vi don't comprehend children being in danger being a particular problem.Jake was generally a jerk in this movie and made bad decisions all around. His declaration at the end of Avatar 2 amounted to collecting guns from the sunk ship and continuing to wait until the last second to get his toruk back and get help from Na'vi within a day's journey. The film introduces the idea that riding the toruk makes him bloodthirsty while in the first movie it doesn't noticeably change him at all and he retires it because he decided it wasn't needed anymore, it's occurred to me just now that James Cameron can alter the previous films if he decides on a retcon later on and this could be one of those. Jake was absurdly negligent with Lo'ak and almost drove him to suicide.
>>216896523The humans are so over-the-top cartoony evil with how greedy and bloodthirsty they are, but at the same time I kind of pity them because every fucking movie they keep getting BTFO by Eywa and her natural army of death-beasts.Like I'm not saying let them commit some genocide, but give them a small win or something, like that city becomes a fully established colony that Eywa and her chosen people can't just remove.
>>216901218Any part with Varang and Quaritch. Frankly any part with Varang in general. I think I’m weak to girls with black eyeliner now
>>216897417It's 5 movies actually.
>>216897417We need as many as James Cameron says we need.
>>216896523It's not anti-human. It's anti-white. Na'vii are the coloreds. Reject your whiteness, get seduced by a negro and become black yourself
Does Varang shave?
>>216901374This. She was a standout character.
Miles' mother is still a literal who unidentifiable from the first movie right? Now we just know she was a pilot?
>>216901466all navi vaginas are naturally hairless
>>216901327>Jake was absurdly negligent with Lo'ak and almost drove him to suicide.To be fair to Jake, it was really one half of a comment made in the heat of an argument that he clearly instantly wished he could unsay. Your child bleeding to death in your arms after being shot is about as devastating an event as a person can undergo. It wasn't Lo'ak's fault and he shouldn't have said it, but I don't think Jake was intentionally being negligent or trying to hurt him like that.
>>216901573
Spider is the weirdest fucking kid I swear to god, its like nothing even phases him.>Neytiri tried to murder him in second movie, he's fine with her the next>bio dad comes back, feels no conflict beyond saving his life one time>Quaritch tells him about his mom, who was killed by Na'vi, he doesn't care>Jake is literally about to Old Yeller him, says its okay and forgives Jake
>>216901673Self hating white wigger boy.He's not gonna change gears this late in life
>>216901673He’s a based Zoomer, detached from everything
>>216901673Read the Bible. You’ll understand.
>>216901763>Read the Bible.
>>216898582GIGABASEDvarang was the best part of the movie, also shes MY wife.
>>216898582I need to smell her armpits
>>216901614Lo'ak literally says it was his fault in the very first scene and that he'll have to live with that forever
>>216900426In movies, books, games, myths, and comics, Gods, aliens, monsters, elves, vampires, androids, and ghosts are all just humans. Nobody actually wants to make a film about any of these things, they want to tell stories about people but dress them up in funny outfits
>scene where Spider is in the spirit world seeing all the ghost Navi>he's now as tall as they arelmao, fuckin manlet can only be tall in dreams.
>Ywn be a manlet pinkskin dominated by towering Navi women
>>216902388>His first words upon being informed he has joined the spirit realm>"No shit xP"
>>216902893>aaaaw sheeeit frfr no cap 67??????!? Why couldn't spider die for real. The "a son for a son huh, I'm going to burn your eywa to the fucking ground and roast your heart over it" "he was my son!" kino we were robbed of for "well this is awkward" is the most pg13 thing in the series.
>>216901198>obsessed autistic shill has been spamming /tv/ with forced avatar memes for 10 years>claims his work is organic evidence of genuine interest
>>216902115A Bugs Life has deeper story telling than whatever this movie was
>>216898579Yep nothing really makes sense with the way her plot is revealing itself,in way of water she's barely able to get some floral to follow them now she's enyeay star child that can create humanXnavi hybrids?
>>216901673How did he even survive as an baby?
>>216903556Why wouldn't he survive? They just kept him indoors
>>216902115Because not a single person throughout history has ever blamed themselves for something they had no control over out of guilt
>>216903643It's just bad writing for him to feel bad over something he didn't do. Did no one read the script and point out the inconsistency?
>>216903556The first movie ends with some humans remaining, and they took over the infrastructure of the main base. You can see them during the mass walk off the humans are forced to do. All those facilities would've been designed to be self sufficient and have some kind of renewable power.
Midnight bump
>>216897785You forgot about the most important point>be a race traitor
>>216897417I don't think we needed this movieSomeone could probably skip from 2->4 and miss basically nothing except for the sexo evil blue ayy in her tiny tube top
>>216901432>get seduced by a negrodamn.... well, if you insist...
>>216901091shalom
humans are BAD because they want aliens to share their resources otherwise they'll go extinct. how dare they try to survive!
>>216897391Haven't seen the latest movie yet but>the most racist cat you know>her human husbandIt's just true to life.
I notice a lack of black RDA soldiers
>>216904277When the blueray/Chinese imax conversion hits torrent sites someone could cut down "way of wawao woops all filler" into like another 40 minutes of foundational nonsense and a midact swell of fighting 1 boat before fighting 10 of them in the real movie that is 3. The two hours of water tribe initiation shit doesn't matter to the story at all. This should have been 1 movie but 85% of that movie is contained in 3.
>>216904795there are no brown and black people in space. Neytiri specifically calls humans pinkskins
>>216904817Eh I consider 3 more disposable than 2>fighting 1 boat before fighting 10 of them in the real movie that is 3. Truly bizarre choice though, ending both movies on pretty similar-feeling fights on burning military ships.
>>216904889What happened in 2>Biome change >5 minute narration of "so uh... Yeah they came back" >Recoms exist >Nothing What happened in 3 >All of the sully family plots sans lemming death of eldest son>Meaningful expansion of the naavi via ash tribe >Jake captured >Stakes (fake, but still) >Kiri has 95% of her eywa plot and it's resolution as Pandora Jesus >Spider becomes Pandoran Adam, then Pandoran Isaac >Quaritch has character development while personally dragging series forward >Actual existential human threat to whales/underwater spirit tree/naavi way of life >Plot threads for the next movie like humans breathing Pandoran air/being able to commune with eywa, the RDA being the only ones left in control with the general dead, etc. Learning to ride dolphins for 2 hours in a rehash of the fliers with none of the weight (and never coming up again) just wasn't a good use of time. A lot of movie2 just can be written out with better uses of existing components/omitting pointless movie2 only plots. 3 other than duplicate spider rescues is overloaded but nothing screams trim. If anything there should be more.
>>216905101In terms of someone being able to skip a movie and still comprehend what's happening, yeah, 3 is way more skippable than 2. Someone could skip 3 and have a relatively easy time, it didn't actually change that much from the status quo at the end of the 2nd movie. If someone skipped 2 they'd be way more lost.>who the fuck are these blue kids>why are they sad, did one of them die or something>who the fuck is this annoying human child>why the fuck are they in the water tribe>what's up with these whales>why the hell is quaritch an ayy now
>>216896523>>216897417Just the goyim humans, goys.
>>216905228And be entirely lost in4 for things like >Why are the Sully's not mourning the loss of their son >Why are humans breathing on Pandora wtf why do they have head tails now >Why did that naavi just deep tongue kiss quaritch for 20 minutes. Also why are there RDA naavi >Where did the whales go, one fishing boat ended the entire Japanese whaling industry? Wasn't that goop important >Why is kiri a D&D druid And anything else you can think of, because unlike 2 there are plot opportunities and implications to it's events. No one could speculate after 2 because we had nothing to go on. And spider being established as a thing was part of the 5 minute narration of what happened for 15 years, as was the kids existing in general. Some recutting you could cram 30% of 2 in 3 and omit the movies duplicate scenes. All of kiri's plot had to be rearticulated because of the split and it added bloat to both.
Avatar 4 is the one James wants to make, supposed to be darker and shocking.I'm cautiously optimistic
>>216904780The only resources people take from Pandora are unobtanium (not required for survival) and amarita (only accessible to the elite who get to live forever, everyone else is fucked)
>>216905362>Why are humans breathing on Pandora wtf why do they have head tails now >Why did that naavi just deep tongue kiss quaritch for 20 minutes. Also why are there RDA naavi Those 2 are legit and would be confusing for a skipper, the others are really easy to infer with "yeah guess they wrapped that up in the movie I missed, not a big deal though." They don't really require explanation.>>216905430I hope so. Frankly I've always found the segments focusing on future humanity more interesting than the Na'vi shit.
>humans caught spider and scanned his ass>blueprint for breathing on pandora is sent back to earth>couple of years later humans start to show up without masks>they also brought drones this time>all the male space cats are killed within a week>all the females are captured and turned into sex slaves
>>216896523It doesn't matter. It's just fiction, nothing more, and it doesn't matter. Fiction can be whatever the author and the reader wants it to be.
>>216901432navi are blue not black
>>216905533hey, there's no need for thatthe males could also be turned into sex slaves
>>216903812>Character loses older brother who was always there for him in a violent way>Develops survivor's guilt>"Ugh did no one read the script??? no one would ever blame themselves for that"
>>216906352>film clearly shows the brother isk illed by the humans>suddenly in the next movie the other brother acts like he did itBoy, I hope somebody got fired for that blunder
>>216898582Idk looks like a dude to me. Plus no boobs at all. Was this the troon from euphoria CGI'd up?
>>216901271Nah they are a woke allegory for colonialism. How can you interpret that so wrong? The navi are meant to be native Americans or Indians or some shit.
>>216904856Cameron showing his true colours again. Anyone who uses the internet knows "pink skin" or "pig skin" is a way to undermine white people. Not that anyone gives a fuck there are billions of bants that can be thrown at ethnics but pink skin is all they've got desu.
>>216897708The main guys live in the forest but they also fly a lot on those pterodactyl adjacent things, so im never sure if they are supposed to be the earth or wind "cast" so to speak
>>216897708Wind traders were already in this movie, first movie was earth coded because of the forest na'vi. All that remains is the quintessence.
>>216906575Neytiri is supposed to be racist, she calls humans that because she's racist. It's not supposed to be something good.the second she sees a brownoid or nigger she'll call them shitskins
>>216906666But does she? Also>4 6's you were so close. I would concede if I was talking to the devil himself.
