https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM-TuFkUXEA
>>216903191Holy fuck this is way better. Hopefully someone runs the whole movie through AI and I might actually watch it
>>216903210Unless Chimpdaya gets completely swapped and somehow her dogshit acting is changed, I won't
>>216903191>nolan >AI100% certain a pajeet made this
>>216903191This actually does look better
>>216903191Also fixed the demoralizing blue-gray hues Hollywood likes so much
>>216903191>Someone's going to do this for the entire movie
I hate how nolanfags always post the barrel-looking guy as a proof that "hurr durr that would look stupid on screen".
>>216903191Based
>>216903191this looks really gayim glad nolan didnt go with the "historically accurate" (whatever that means) armor
>>216903260Rare jeet W
>>216903547this shit looks gay too
>>216903225>AI race swappingHonestly hot and very fetishistic
Now might be a good time to shill the comic Age of Bronze
>>216903191First of all The Odyssey is myth and second as myth it would've taken place way before you think it does even if there was some truth in the story so there's no such thing as "historically accurate".
>>216903593How do you even get immersed in the humanslop version knowing what the armor of that period looked like.It's like making a WW1 movie where Germans have a Batman-esque version of their WW2 uniforms. It's slop pure and simple
>>216903826>it's le mythIt's set in a particular time in history, bruh.
>>216903826Shut up libtard
>>216903826Since "it's le myth" then we should also have electric cars in
>>216903879Yeah, like in the age of the Greek legends hundreds of years before Homer wrote the Odyssey. What exactly did their armor look like when they had gods and monsters running around fucking things up?
>>216903547some of the Troy movie armor designs weren't even that far off then
>>216903924>it has fantastical elements, that means it's not set in a particular time period
>>216903547I want to see a movie of ancient Egyptians battling the Sea Peoples who looked similar to this
>>216903862its easy, i just dont give a shitthe idea of "historically accurate" armor is all approximations anyway, what do I care if a director wants to use a more aesthetically pleasing version of it
>>216903191Souless
>>216903986For me it's Nuragic kino
>>216904020>has more sovlfvl colors>has historical accuracy and also looks better>is produced by the proletariat rather than the nepobaby hollywood studio>"soulless"
>>216904012>more aesthetically pleasing version
>>216903191this is really good, and more interesting looking than the original. hollywood must be shitting in their pants right now. it only a matter of time before teens start making blockbuster movies from their laptops in their spare time.
>>216903191All these colors, textures and shapes in IMAX would be orgasmic.
>>216904060yes anon, a roman helmet (even a fantastical futurey version like this one) looks better than a "historically accurate" greek helmet which looks silly
>>216903593>"historically accurate" (whatever that means)You retarded or something?
>>216904107Believe it or not there is a middle ground between a grey, generic, and featureless aesthetic and colorful and ornate.
>>216903210>>216903501>>216903547>>216903969How do you deal with the fact that the "historically accurate" version would be unfaithful to Homer's source material which is an anachronistic fantasy where apart from certain bronze age details like Boars tusk helmets, Homer has his characters using contemporary (to him) things like iron weapons and armor? (and as seen in picrel, that's how they're depicted in art) Or how they behave more like classical greeks than bronze age ones? Knights didn't exist when King Arthur is supposed to have existed. Do you want every King Arthur adaptation to remove the knights for historical accuracy from now on?And if you do want to stick to "historical accuracy", remember that Mycenaean Poseiden was the god of the Earth, not of the sea. He became god of the sea later. This makes Homer's Odyssey very inaccurate since he plays a big part as god of the sea. Does this bother you like all other historical inaccuracies when you read it? It's a pretty big one.
>>216904296Shut up nerd
>>216904245do you know what the armor of the time looked like?
>>216903191Curse of the golden flower have these colors. That's why Hollywood gets drab to overseas markets, except for Zootopia or Wicked
>>216904296This anon convinced me. I love plastic gray and black armor now.
>>216903826It’s a myth set in a particular time period and cultureThe Odyssey without Greek cultural references is not the Odyssey
>>216904318Is this cleavage historically accurate?
>>216904296>STOP HAVING FUN
>>216904349This movie was yellow booba kino
>>216904296It depends how you're going to adapt it. You can adapt it as if it were a true (or more true) story that inspired Homer with more historical accuracy, or you do it just as Homer wrote it.Or you could ignore all that. But when you get to the point where it not only looks drab, but the historical inaccuracies are distracting even for retards something went wrong.They have a fucking viking longship. You can waffle about historical accuracy all you want but that's clearly over the line.
>>216904309Not down to the smallest detail but I know it didn't look like Robocop. I know it wasn't grey, it was brighter. It doesn't have to be perfect it would just be cool to see something that pulled from that so I could be transported to a fully realized world rather than Nolan's grimdark generic slopfest. I would take something that looks good also.
>>216903986>the Sea PeoplesThose were the nordic tribes displaced by the fall of atlantis (Doggerland) when that comet hit the earth
>>216904470proofs?
>DUDE YOU CANT HAVE HISTORICAL ACCURACY BECAUSE IT DOESNT LOOK COOL ENOUGHJust what I wanted, an adaptation of the Odyssey made for the palette of a 12 year old boy with questionable father figures
>>216903501Nope. There's a reason each clip is only 4-5 seconds.
>>216903191Ok I take it back Nolan was right
>>216903191Nolan is a romantic, of course he'd do a more stylish retelling of the Illiad rather than how cringe things actually were in reality a blockbuster director knows this unlike whoever directed Troy
>>216904320>where shiny?!?!? me want shiny!!!!!!are you an infant?
>>216904576This, we haven't had enough grey and dark looking movies. We need more of those. Colorful movies are everywhere these days, everyone is sick of it.
>>216904576Yes, I do want some colors in my art.
>>216904601Yeah, people generally understand what looks cool. Being contrarian for the sake of it is extremely gay.
>>216904642Wouldn't want movies to contain anything novel or visually striking ever. If the movie fires off more than 3 brain cells, Nolan isn't doing his job.
>>216904349In book illustrations they have a hint of booba. IRL probably not, the late Qing pix all had 2/10 as court ladies.
>>216904664>He should have made it ugly just to be different
>>216904676Yes, making it look good is really the most important thing. Too bad he also didn't do that.
>>216904349All I'm saying is in "bad" times, you lure people to theater by giving them an illusion of abundance, wealth, health, invincibility.
>>216904296homer style would be fine too, but what i really don't like is the nolan capeslop with longboats and minecraft temples
>>216904696
>>216904296>And if you do want to stick to "historical accuracy", remember that Mycenaean Poseiden was the god of the Earth, not of the sea. He became god of the sea later. This makes Homer's Odyssey very inaccurate since he plays a big part as god of the sea. Does this bother you like all other historical inaccuracies when you read it? It's a pretty big one.Nice speculation, however it is impossible to prove.
>>216904676Look at Bram Stoker's Dracula for examples of visually inspired cool designs that don't cross into silly territory.They're not historically accurate either. He drew inspiration from lots of places. That's the main issue, Nolan's designs are the definition of uninspired.
>>216904746This looks awful. Stop watching tranime.
>>216904768Of course you'd have to say that.
>every single footsoldier was wearing the exact same expensive unique armour with odysseus signature boar tusk helmet
>>216903191>acknowledging ai slopWe need to shame people like you out of /tv/.
>>216904746That's from Dracula Untold, bro.Pic is from Coppola's Dracula.
>>216904807"My bad"
>>216904786The seethe from this pic gives me life.No I never had any interest in being an artist and I don't care about being authentic or talented. For me it's the same as Googling a picture I want to see.Yes I will be using AI to make whatever I feel like.Yes I will be feeding whatever I want into it, including your original art.No, there's nothing you can do ever.
>Bro this totally looks cool>Definitely not the most bland and uninspired thing I've ever seen>Trust me bro Nolan could never
>>216904844Obsessed
why can't they make stuff good?
>>216904296One of the most important scenes in the book’s final act (Odysseus shooting an arrow through twelve axes) actually makes sense if you look at Bronze Age Mycenaean Axes. Most modern movies get it wrong by having him shoot through the pommel ring of regular axes.
>>216904470Their headgear looks like something from Anatolia or that region in the bronze age.
>>216904349no but my boner after seeing it is truly historical
>>216903690>AI race swappingNot new. Remember rhat face app a number of years back?
>>216903786Damn. I never did finish that series.
>>216903191They're mongols? Is this a bollywood thing?
>>216905743Yeah I remember. Then the goyim complained it was raciss o algo and it got taken down
>>216903191I fucking love gay shit this nbronze armor is so cool.
I'm already tired of the discourse around this fucking movie.
>>216903547Was this the best picture you had?
>>216903191I would hope somebody does DUNC in the same way, that film looks so sterile and uninteresting.
Looks way better.
>>216904318Wait is this just chinks complaining about white people?
>>216903191what museum can we see horned helmets such as these in?
>>216903191somebody should do this for DUNC.
>>216906117I'm just waiting for someone to use the Jodorowsky pitch book as an ai model and just make that. It's pretty much all there.
>>216904060>>216903862>horse helmet so that the man can't see his sides nolan the armor enthusiast
>>216903191Looks shit (as all ai slop does, not bc of the accurate armour) but still better than the nolan slop, wich is simply depressing
>>216904296>tags four people >goes on a pretentious rantImagine being this much of a faggot lmfao. I bet you think any of the posts here are serious :^)
>>216904349Ask a Minoan.
>>216906755In reality this clothing was probably very unerotic because if you see boobs in the open all the time they lose their mystique
>history nerd version looks more lively and soulful than the version which took creative liberties with the armorCrazy
>>216906755>>216906796Ancient egypt clothing left the women breasts out in the open as well
>>216903908Yes. Why not. Seriously, make an argument why we shouldn't.
>>216903191Now you understand why all movies about ancient Greece use the same armor and not this. Nobody is going outside of a few history experts are going to identify this with the greeks.
>>216906918good point, maybe the original trailer should have listened to this nugget of wisdom as well instead of going with some plastic batman shit
Imagine being born as a zoomer obsessed with frivolous stuff
>>216906962The armors are like the ones everyone identify as the greeks even if they are made of plastic or look different. I'm talking about the basic shape.
>>216903682>this shit looks gay toothey are Greeks after all, the people that invented faggotry!
>>216906117>>216906376#TurnDunkaccinoIntoKino
>>216904470>Those were the nordic tribes displaced by the fall of atlantis (Doggerland) when that comet hit the earth>>216904488This is bullshit.According to ancient egyptians most of Sea People practiced circumcision
>>216903191That looks interesting.
>>216904060Better.
>>216904296It doesn't look like what homer would have imagined either
>>216904470>>216907064Also, the sea people, after being defeated by the Egyptians were exiled to the levant and their descendants became the Philistines.
>>216906973It's not "frivolous", it misses the mark completely. You can have creative liberties ontop of a historical base. Have an elephant tusk helmet instead of a boar tusk one for example.
>>216903191the scene where they run down the cliff towards the sea looks straight up comical. like its little children playing pretend
>>216903501people said they were going to make a full white and red haired version for the little mermaid life action movie with AI and I still have not seen that one either
>>216904349>>216904401looks kino to me.
>>216903862How does it affect you?Next you’ll be complaining about immigration into your country.
>>216906895Why not have a 20-minute rape scene in The Odyssey. Seriously, make an argument why we shouldn't.
>>216903191holyclit xisters... we lost
>>216903191why don't you gayreeks simply film ur own odyssey?
>>216903191Looks retarded, good thing Nolan changed it.
>>216907154>no, I came back to stop you
>>216903501Remember that disney remake, "The Little Niggres who Could Swim"? I'm still waiting on that one to be fixed with AI
>>216904296I realy don't mind historical innacuracies if they make the movie better and I agree it's silly to see these guys who know nothing of the period complain about that.My issue is that he had a nice opportunity to work with fantasy and stretch out to show an era that is rarely portrayed AND be creative and unique. The problem is that it's way too generic so far, beige robes, black rubbery armor, etc.Same thing with Inception. He was doing a movie about dreams, he could get away with lots of stuff but chose to show people in suits shooting at each other like any generic action movie. You could say "well then, do you want to see them flying a rainbow unicorn through space noodles?" but there is a wide variety of other things that he could have done between the two extremes.I don't think it should be historically accurate, it should however be more interesting than what we've seen so far.
>>216903547Why does Hector wear his shield on his bottom?
>>216905752neither did the authors
>>216904349Yes>Tang women inherited the traditional ruqun gown and modified it by opening up the collar to expose their cleavage, which had previously been unimaginable.[30] Rather than the conservative garments worn by earlier Chinese women, women of the Tang era deliberately emphasized their cleavageThough being curvy and chubby in the face was more the body/face style for Tang as well.Tang also had very different makeup.
>>216907154For you
thanks for pumping up the marketing for the film! >ynr the endless i am become death memes long before oppenheimer was even announced
>>216909101Pic related for Tang Dynasty era makeup and hair.
>Koine?
>>216903191Surely this armor was just ceremonial. I dont see how people could fight in these tubes
>>216903547maybe you should set up a go-fund-me and film your own odyssey
>>216905766
>>216903879so?
>>216903862easily. i am not a bitter autist. also nolan is not a making a documentary. also also: fuck off
Will AI be able to remaster and remake movies? I want a remake of Above the Law starring Steven Seagal. More action, more boobs, more Richie and Bobby Lupo and more Tony Salvano's
>>216909341AI remasters are already a thingI know this because of porn
>>216909101>you want fried rice?
>>216903191Now *this* is kino.
I was getting sick of people whining about the armor but this is actually way better.
>>216903191Looks awful, only jeets would find this shit appealing
>>216909315You're a slop enjoyer
>>216907154
>>216903555china has chuddha greece has Chudesseus
>>216903191I'm sure some limp-wristed poindexter homo has already explained how this isn't akshully "historically accurate" and pretended he likes the gay plastic superhero armor more, but this would have looked way cooler regardless
>>216903191This unironically looks much better. It's less "le historical accuracy" and more that the original costumes look like fucking plastic costumes instead of battle-worn armour
I am so tired of seeing this shit.
>>216904418It looks really drab no doubt>>216908867I somehow never thought of this in regards to inception but yeah, such a boring way to portray dreams
>>216907154>>216909172>So you came back to die with your odyssey?
>>216903547Why the Achilles and Agamenon look so happy.
>>216904296Holy hell, you blew the fuck out of /tv/ pedants with this one.
>>216903862Same way I got immersed watching DUNC, by not being a fucking autist.
>>216910331Why do subhuman leftists love Nolan's depiction of the Odyssey so much? Is it because they hate Europeans and celebrate anything that depicts them in a cheap underwhelming and incorrect way? Or Maybe they just love consuming low IQ slop ?
>>216904296>Homer has his characters using contemporary (to him) things like iron weapons and armor?They are described as using bronze weaponry you absolute mongoloid. Does anyone even read Homer anymore?
>>216904349ni hao wun hung lo
>>216910266It gets the brownoids a jumpin
>>216909390lol
>>216903210this but unironically
>>216903191Never forget what could have been. Why are moviemakers so opposed to giving us something that is cool + aethetic + historically accurate?
>>216910735normies
>>216910735It's funny how this frame with zero context looks goofy af, but when you compare it to Nolan's grimdark bullshit suddenly it looks so refreshing and cool
>greek capeshit gets capeshit aestheticsWe've gone full circle...
>>216909537nolan is the most prestigious auteur of our era. dunkirk and the prestige are masterworks.
>>216904296>reading the iliadYou're supposed to have it told to you by a elderly poet, lil unc.
>>216910735pic unrelated, right?because that looks stupid as hell
>>216911041Pic related.
2 runs two deadline blueprints
>>216903191I find the discourse around this film unbearable. Nolan supporters (and a large proportion of normies) seem obsessed with this strawman that the people who think this movie is going to be shit are purely concerned with the fact Nolan isn't being 100% historically accurate, arguing that the odyssey is a fictional story and therefore it's okay that nolan isn't being historically accurate to the bronze age (not least because homer himself includes anachronistic details relative to bronze age greece). But the problem isn't that he's being historically inaccurate, the problem is that as >>216908867 puts it not only is nolan being historically inaccurate, he's being historically inaccurate in a generic, boring way that lacks creativitiy. If you choose not to be 100% accurate to bronze age greece that's cool, but if you then use that as an excuse to show the greeks in viking longships wearing generic medieval barbarian armour and vaguely classical helmets it just tells me the rest of the film is likely to be equally bland and boring. >>216904296 is a great example of this strawmanning in practise.
>>216904296Homer wasnt a real person dumb ass nigga
>>216911446contrast this with Troy, which is egregiously historically inaccurate, but the setpieces and costumes "feel" right and look GOOD. Gladiator is another example, I've actually studied roman and ancient greek history in great detail, it's super inaccurate, but I don't care because it makes an effort to immerse you in the world and gets the spirit of things right, it has SOUL. Nolan by contrast looks unbearably soulless and, more importantly, LOW EFFORT.
>>216910622Holy hell, you blew the fuck out of /tv/ pedants with this one.
>>216910622NTA but admittedly homer does include a lot of anachronisms in the Illiad/Odyssey, that said it's excusable given he's describing events occurring a millenium before him with very little archaeological knowledge of the past. That does not excuse nolan coming up with dogshit costumes
>>216903191>greeks>whiteyikes
>>216911493Nom de plume?
>>216907154Nolan forgot he wasn't making a batman movie?
Proving once again why chuds aren't artists.
>>216911833Nta, but Iliad and Odyssey were supposedly written 80 years apart and people doubt that it could have been made by the same guy. Homer is a semi mythological guy, he could have existed or not, could have been blind or not, but it's unlikely that he authored the two works. Most likely there were several writers involved in both pieces and even that, they were documenting ideas that could have been passed on throughout several generations as campfire stories.
>>216904296>They hated him because he destroyed them completely and for all time Many such cases
>>216912215Aliens could have wrote it
>>216904729That kike is the coolest thing ever to you?
>>216907434Because even if you race swap her, the movie is still crap.
>>216904025comfy as fuck
>>216906796Let's start doing it and we'll see when I get tired
I'm not too fond of retards spamming the dendra armor. At the time of the Trojan war they wore more articulated bronze cuirasses.https://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/armour5.htm
>>216904488It came to me in a dream
>>216903191This fixed trailer actually proves a point by accident:All American movies and aesthetics are just capeshit. Doesn't matter if it's in space, in history or in myth, it's all just capeshit. Just contrasting it with this >>216903862 stupidity drives the point home. The only genre America does is capeshit. They literally forgot how to do anything else.
>>216914221Capeshit is the epitome of burger filmmaking. If a burger makes a film that isn't capeshit-lite then they'll be some as some indie arthouse director/auteur.In contrast, any european film seems like an auteur passion project to burgers because of this, despite mostly just being low-budget dramas that are made succinctly.
>Regarding his helmet, Homer describes Odysseus using a boar’s tusk helmet during a night raid in the Iliad, which is made of leather with rows of ivory tusks arranged in alternate directions and lined with felt and interwoven straps. This helmet is explicitly described as an heirloom passed down through generations, aligning with the Mycenaean era. However, in other contexts, particularly in the Odyssey, Odysseus is described as wearing a bronze helmet with a horsehair crest, as seen when he retrieves four such helmets from his storeroom before confronting the suitors.Nolan's helmets are accurate though. The boar tusk helmets were used but at certain times. Achilles also had the horsehair crest.
>>216904349I love China, it's unreal
>>216915501You love imaginary China in your head.
>>216903191The Odyssey and The Illiad are historical fiction.
>>216903862This shit is so fucking terrible, fuck the shills trying to defend this slop.
>>216915532They have by far the best aesthetics, and their culture is literally the foundation of all other Asian cultures, including that of your beloved Japan, whose rituals, religions, traditions, arts, and aesthetics are all of Chinese origin.
>>216913179ΚΙΝΩ
>>216915559So that means it's ok that it looks like trash? I don't even care about accuracy, just that it doesn't look like cheap plastic that would embarrass someone at a larp
>>216904296Good post.
>>216915594
If you like Nolan's armor I can guarantee you liked Dunc because guess what both plebslop
>>216903191NOLANHIRETHISMAN
>>216911446holy shit, you fuckin wrecked >>216904296
>>216914221Capeshit and capeshit derivatives
>>216915602You wouldn't be saying this if she didn't have cleavage
Why is Jewlywood scared of color?
>>216906755I should have been born in the bronze age fuck this shit
>>216916013Americans only want the cast to be colored
>>216903191I hate to advocate for Bruce Wagammemnon but I don’t give a fuck that the armor is insanely stylized and unrealistic. Honestly it’s preferable to Hollywood historical and I wouldn’t expect anything memorable from a period accurate film.Good for Nolan for knowing his limitations and making something bizarre and distinct that still works within his visual experience. It’ll suck but the costume is memorable to say the least.If you don’t have the right endurance to fully commit to historical accuracy you might as well make something unique to your own time period. A Knights Tale would have been mediocre buried shit if they didn’t shamelessly lean into the early 00s anachronisms and turned it into a cult classic.
>>216903191>>216903547>>216904966>>216907139>>216909395>>216910735sovl>>216903862slop
>>216904844Yeah this film had a ton of visual potential that was wasted on matte black foam armor and “haunted Europe” filters
This singlehandedly ruined the movie for me, before it came out. I was excited for the Cyclops scene, from the trailer it looked great and somehow oldschool in a good way. I could even manage the bland armor, it makes sense to have it like that if the leaks that Odyssey is double-edged are true, in that the mythical tale part that we got to see has a 21st century counterpart and each complement another. But she ruined it.I get how she will be integrated, Matt Damon will have a black wife and Zendaya will be his mixed daughter who will play a part in the tale side of things, as will other characters from Matt's boring modern office life, and thus the historical "innaccuraccy" is accounted for. But I just don't like her.
>>216903547me on the left
>>216913179>>216910735Surely this would be too expensive for most of the soldiers. What did they wear? Nothing? Leather?
>>216916142The armor in the Odyssey and Illiad is already highly stylized for the non-plebs.
>>216916295>But I just don't like her.Too bad too many losers love that ugly bitch.
>>216916365Nothing or leather or a tunic. Helmets could still be leather and some boar tusks.
Can someone put some real Greeks into this flick?
>>216916365a hat
wow it's better than literal dogshit. huge woop.
>>216903191>historically accurate about a fictional story????
>>216917208>The historic document of the fictional story has elaborate descriptions of what the Heroes' armor looks like????????????????
>>216904729Yet it gets mogged by real life
>historical accuracy Bro thinks he's Bernadette Banner
>>216904807the tasses are ill fitting and it's missing gorgetother than that, 10/10
>>216917509all women should dress like her
>>216917509>>216917629Get an ad
>>216903191Their mistake is that not every average scrub should have full panoply. That should be reserved for the richest and most inportant characters. The average soldier should have a helmet and shield and maybe a partial breastplate or some bronze scale armor.
The same people crying about this are the same people who think 300 is "iNaCcUrAtE!" i.e. negative test leftoid nerds and women.
>>216915876thank you anon I'm glad someone actually read my post
>>216918623Was scale armour even a thing in the bronze age or did that come later?
>>216918730nope, I thought 300 was kino, and the part of me that thinks 300 was awesome is the same part that thinks nolan's odyssey looks like shit. I'll say it again, the problem isn't that it's historically inaccurate, it's that it looks like shit. If you choose to make a historically inaccurate film but fail to make it creative and cool looking then that's just lazy filmmaking.
>>216918730>>216918786300 by contrast works specifically BECAUSE it's historically inaccurate. speaking as a student of classical studies the irl battle of thermopylae was nothing like people remember it in fiction, a borderline nothingburger in fact. The spartans in general, as respectable as their martial prowess and dedication is, were retards irl and an abject failure as a society. But 300 manages to take an idealised version of them and make a compelling, visually creative story. Nolan's odyssey by contrast LOOKS. LIKE. SHIT.
>>216918731my welcome
>>216915809Kek
>>216916295What is she gonna be? Athena? Calypso? Or Nausicaa?
Historical accuracy means only kings could afford to even have armor and bronze weapons bigger than a spear tip. Bronze was insanely expensive and dangerous to produce and until the Hittites figured out how to work iron, ordinary soldiers were still stuck in the neolithic.Troy wasn't historically accurate, but the costumes looked cool and the entire movie wasn't millennial grey. Modern cinematographers and costume designers just fucking suck ass.
>>216912215You know, you're kind of right. Anne Frank's Diary wasn't even written by Anne, but by a guy her father hired."Anne Frank" was a parafictional construct created for propagandistic purposes, which bears little relation to the actual person, if she even existed at all.
>>216903191>historically accurate >Jesus of Nasareth
>>216921331>Anne Frank wasn't realkek do you retards even read what you post?
Hey everyone, make sure to turn off the light when you leave the room in order to conserve power. That power is greatly needed for AI.
>>216921384"Anne Frank" vs Anne Frank aren't the same thing. Was the person in the book real? Was the diary real? I doubt it. Did a girl exist who died in a transit camp? Yes, but why am I supposed to believe that the book girl was real?
>>216921364Go back to >>/reddit/ stupid nigger
>>216921515>do girls exist? yes. >but am I supposed to believe that one could write a diary? this strains credibility
>>216921364>Jesus looked nothing like how he has been variously depicted for 2000 years.... because I made up something else! .... and guess what? He's very brown and ugly! teehee. bet you didn't see that coming???? *farts*whoa so this is the power of reddit and science.
>>216921543>>216921696You're brown.
>>216921569In ballpoint pen, which wasn't invented yet?
>>216921788>t.
>>216921961They existed, they were just rare and expensive. Therefore, the holocaust happened.
>>216918753Yes, it existed, and though archaeology is scarce due to its nature it probably predates plate armor like the dendara panoply. Layering a material like bronze or boar tusk is not only far easier than crafting a single molded piece of bronze, but it is less stiff and can be worn by almost anyone, since plates are by nature stiff and must be fitted precisely. I would not doubt the earliest armor in the world was some sort of hard material sewn and layered onto clothing. It’s flexible, prevents certain fatal injuries, and is cheaper than having specialty molds for large pieces of bronze, something that would take a more talented metalworker than many small pieces
>>216903191REALISMALWAYSLOOKSBETTER
>>216903682>this shit looks gay too
>ready to nitpick >its actually historically accuratedude just do a little more film emulation and change it to 24 fps and that will look amazing. good job to whoever did it, unless they are from india
>>216907423frame rate was too high and no halation
>>216912215>people doubt that it could have been made by the same guyleonardo da vinci was a once in several generations type of personhomer was too, except his society still used oral traditionso not only were they made by the same guy but the entirety of the works sat inside his brain ready for perfect recitation at any time
>>216911652You're right that Homer lacks knowledge about the bronze age, for example he ignores the function of chariots, mentions writing and describes ornamental iron. I am not arguing against that, I am just mad some faggot high on his own farts who hasn't even read Homer comes in here to uhmm achtually the thread.
>>216903191it looks gay and retarded what's with the little fag party tassels on the armor? seems like a psyop to make people like gay shit
>>216912215While I understand some reservations about Homer’s authenticity as a single person who completely authored both poems (which were not even authored being oral stories at first) I put a little more faith in the ancients than gay modern scholars. If a single person first orally recited these tales, and they were shifted slightly along the way especially with the change from oral to written, it does not detract from our attribution of both epics to him
>>216917208>its a fictional story>german man throws dynamite all over the floor>oh shit this part of the story was not fictional at all!
>>216921696kek
>>216904296ahh, this "Poseidon was actually a cthonic god once!" meme agian
>>216922487no
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>>216923057If Homer existed and contributed 10% to it, he is already a genius, don't get me wrong. But Da Vinci is from a different time, there are rumors about Shakespeare not being a single person because he was just so good, but those are just rumors and there are documents to describe their lives, even if faulty. Homer is from the 8th century BC, you'd have to wait 300 years to see Plato and Aristotle, Homer is from a time when you didn't have much record of anything. It's more than that, the books have similar standards, but even great authors that wrote throughout their entire lives have different phases, styles and so on. It's unlikely that a 20 year old Homer and a 100 year old Homer was healthy enough to do it and have used the same techniques. I need to update myself on this debate, but from what I recall, it was most likely a collective work that they attributed to this one guy (that probably existed, imo, but was not the sole author)
>>216903191Imagine being the cuck who types out YESSS THIS IS SOOO MUCH BETTER THANK YOU AI I WANT TO DONATE FOR MOREEEE
>>216903191>Matt DamonNow it looks like it takes place in the future
>>216903191youtube suggested me a video about the oddyssey today, didnt doublecheck if it was bs but apparently Odysseus was a king...but like some raider-king type of guy, piratey, cunning. bit of a rogue. and elements in the story prove he was the right guy for the task, using tricks, getting rid of rivals, using words when at a disadvantage, etc
>>216921384the diary was fake. half was written some time after ww2, it's common knowledge
>>216916027I already made plans to go back there. I'm out of this clown show, going to regress to ten years old so I can habituate but still retain most of my memories.
So was Cleopatra a nigress and not a greek ?
>>216923396there's not one video of either homer or vinci, nothing. they clearly didn't exist. just like bruce li never had a real fight because there's none on video.
>>216923691So that part where Anne expressed sexual attraction to the Venus painting was a lie?
>>216924112titilation so people keep reading it.the part where she dildoed herself with a burger king toy was true though
Anything more cringe than historyfags trying to enjoy movies?
>>216916365If you want a deep dive you can browse the "made in 2000s quality" website of http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/index.htm which is despite that still really great for the exhaustive archaeological references. Someone might take charge with his presumption of the use of leather, but the contemporary (or nearly so) Nuzi tablets mention leather armor in a way that suggests it is quite literally>leatherNot just rawhide scales (which it also references).As for the question - Locris Ajax and some other guys have linen armor. You can dig into the costs of linen versus bronze, people have done some scholarly work on that but I can't be assed to find it. I think the Wisconsin greek linothorax project did. Linen would not be effortlessly cheap but it also wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, especially if you utilized scraps. Nuzi tablets mention about 7 goat hides necessary for some kind of a leather helmet. The early to middle Mycenaean period and they made use of great big body-shields worn with a strap, often called telamonian strap (as in Ajax, who wields one but with bronze) which made body armor less necessary.>>216918753Seems to have originated from the Mitanni-Hurrians, "Sariam" or some derivative of that word, derived from 'snake' for obvious reasons. Around what, 1700 BC or so?
>>216923853she qt
>>216925422is that Jered Leto
>>216916295Why can't they just make her look good? Every movie keeps dressing her up in rags and 0 hair or makeup production. It's like they want people to be racist to her.
>>216926324She does clean up nicely. Laff at the guy holding a magnifying glass over her woman parts.
>>216923396Source: my ass
>>216903191This looks like Flash Gordon. I'm sure Nolan researched it and said, aww hell naw.
This is wrong, as this style of Mycenaean plate armor was far from standard infantry wear, just like all panoply style armors have been throughout history. This shit is expensive and not conducive to the success of lightly trained grunts.I respect the effort, but this is just as idiotic.
>>216917300Dude the Trojan war was a myth even back then. It’s like if people thousands of years in the future made a hologram movie about Harry Potter fanfiction.
>>216903191I was wrong AI can be used for kino
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>>216903191This looks fucking horrendous, also I love people seething about this movie and "historical accuracy" nigga it's a myth, none of this shit existed or happened.
>>216903191Looks so much better. I wish Hollywood had some balls to do things right for once. >>216916325 This is a perfect example.>>216928765It's a mythic set in a particular time and place, which is Ancient Greece. If it's "just a myth", why not have a corner Starbucks and electric cars to take them around?
>>216904296You're right. They should have guns, nukes and Chinese.
LMAOAI frens won again
>>216911858Anti-AI people are the chuds though
