Can it be saved?
>>216915172nope
>>216915172Yes
Yes.Its just blocked behind the world's biggest firewall that only an act of God could crack.Once we're in and the Holocaust actually happens this time, its back to pew-pew-pew awesome adventures.
>>216915172Yes, watch the Mandalorian movie and Starfighter.>>216915272People like this don't argue in good faith.
>>216915172no, but i bet in a few years someone uses AI to completely remake the sequel trilogy to a story that actually makes sense. it'll be well received, but nobody will care at that point
>>216915172It's getting saved next year. No, not 2027, in 2026 it will be truly saved. Some anons know what I mean, most don't.
>>216915357ok, fag, i'll humor you. it can be saved but only if disney admits failure, retcons everything, and hands it off to the right people, which they absolutely will not do, so i stand by my original statement. nope
>>216915172The only way it can be saved:>Give it back to Lucas, put a clause that it can never be sold back to Disney>Undo and wipe everything made by Disney>Start from scratch
>>216915172It has been around for 47 years. Give a rest man. There is little from that universe that can be interesting anymore.
>>216915471Want a mind-blower? It's during the first 10 minutes of Star Wars 1977 that the first rented Disney prop makes its first appearance.
>>216915172It needs to be saved from Disney first.
>>216915172If you cant be happy with the 6 real movies and the eu you can kill yourself. Mouse cock sucking faggot filth like you won't be missed. Fuck you.
>>216915357Anon in still in the first step of denial oof
>>216915551Hes a mouse shill who deserves cancer. Don't give him on his ilk any more replies.
Yes and everyone knows how to do it, especially everyone who says Star Wars can't be saved. No one says 'Star Wars can't be saved' because they think Star Wars can't be saved. We say Star Wars can't be saved because we all know how to do it but Disney will never do it. To do it would be to admit total defeat.That is to retcon the Sequel Trilogy, and the entire Sequel timeline. Everything post-Endor needs to be retconned. Chuck the BBC cuck Wendig's shitty Aftermath books, Operation Cinder, and using Hollywood tactics IN UNIVERSE needs to be retconned. Total collapse of the Empire in Aftermath to make sure nothing happened between ROTJ and TFA was the dumbest, most shortsighted decision in all of franchise history because OBVIOUSLY they were going to retcon that with spinoff series eventually. Any fucking idiot in 2014 could have told you they were going to make material between the two trilogies eventually; so wiping the slate clean completely was always going to carry an asterisk. There was always going to be a 'well, yes all the Imperials surrendered or committed mass suicide but there were still some warlords out on the Rim'like Mandalorian had to do, only now it makes less sense because Yidsney has to reconcile those statements or just ignore one.
>>216915172It needs the original geeks (both OT and PT) back onside. Otherwise they'll continue to shit post everywhere and review bomb the fuck out it. But it's Disney and they've an (((agenda))). So no, it can't be saved.
>>216915357If you get rid of all woke discourse, Rey mary sue arguments, racism, nostalgiafagging, prequel, OT, and Expanded Universe fans and ignore all the youtube chuds, you find the Disney era is, deep down, beyond all the irrational hatred even fucking worse than any of these people claim. It's garbage. It's shit. Ignoring all the points the above make, these movies are somehow even worse. The stories make fuck all sense. There is 0 consistency between even the films. If you engage in these films honestly and fairly, they are worse. It's in Disney's best interest that Rey be called a mary sue. She is, but if you disagree, you should say she is anyway because the generic hate these films get is actually praise. Gods of Egypt is better than any Sequel film. Independence Day: Resurrgence is better than any Sequel film. The Sequels are not merely bad sequels, bad Star Wars films, or jist had films in general; they are horrendously bad, to the point of making most Uwe Boll movies look good. The final redpill is that the Sequels are actually getting pass when people shit on them, and they are even worse than portrayed by most fans. If people truly did what the wokies said to do and swallow the propaganda without bitching, you find the films are hollow and the writing is awful even by the standards of modern Hollywood. People DO like the Sequels 10 years later, because all the negativity around them doesn't go nearly hard enough and, if anything, they are underhated.
>>216915172No. It's a corpse. Stop digging it up to have a go at the rotting pile of flesh.
>>216916505>>216916362>>216915946Dumb cunts like this feel the need to regurgitate the same facts we've wll seen 10,000 times before. Anything to keep a mouse faggot shill thread alive. Fuck you too.
>>216915172yea a black guy and white guy jedi buddy cop film/series will save it, both males though, with a female side character, but it has to be good, or else the franchise is dead for good
>>216916675Kill yourself dumb fuck
>>216915172EasilyJust make KOTOR 1 and 2 into six movies
>>216916798Kill yourself
>>216916718>km over mediangmi bud kek
>>216915172No and it shouldn’t be. Just take the lessons you can from Disney’s massive fuck ups and move on forever.
>>216915172it's over. star wars is 6 films. anything outside of those 6 films is called star wars but is actually not star wars. if they keep putting out soulslike video games i will play them but those arent even star wars either, and thats the nicest thing i have to say about anything outside of the 6 star wars films.
>>216916973You were never going to make it anyway, kiddo.
first either everyone at disney has to be fired or disney sells it (wont happen)to save it declare the disney sequels part of legends and write them off as the most expensive fan fic ever made and use AI to remake the sequels with lucas scripts given all the AI star wars clips popping up if disney doesnt do it then the fans will
>>216917120>video games i will playThis faggot is a part of the problem
>>216915172>Can it be saved?It can be.
>>216917170soulslikes are fun, so i play them, even if they pretend to be star wars. you should stop obsessing over a dead bazillion dollar ip. star wars is 6 movies.
BRINGHIMBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>216915543>the euStar Wars for turbonerds, where stories are more Star Trek over Star Wars.
>>216915172Well can it? Disney´s owned the IP for like 20 years now and never once they´ve made a Star Wars movie. Disney has been consistently been doing it´s own thing and it´s never been good. Mandalorian season 1 was as close as they got and they couldn´t cope with how their own show exposed them. They probably figured they would use it to say "people don´t care for SW anymore, they want our new thing" but it succeeded so they went ahead and ruined it instead.
>>216917130>i know ill repeat what he said back to himcase and point lmao
>>216915357>groguHis NAMEis Baby YEED
>>216917370>turbonerdsWhere do you think you are, normalfag? Its there if people want more besides the real movies. No need to suck mouse dick or pretend theres anyway nu wars can be saved. There's decades worth of real star wars for anyone who wants it.
>>216917468>Its there if people want more besides the real moviesI want Star Wars, not Star Trek.
>>216915497I'm not even asking for it to be interesting, only for it to not be abject garbage. I still can't believe how terrible ep 9 was. It fucking defies description.
>>216918032Fuck off mouse shill
I wouldn't; I would listen to what they had to say, and that's what no one did.No really, I am not even joking. Step 1 should be to put Star Wars on indefinite hiatus, then make everyone at nu-Lucasfilm marathon the original two trilogies until the 'get' it. Then fire Filoni and pay whatever Genndy Tartakovsky, Timothy Zahn, Drew Karpyshyn, and Chris Avallone want to get them on Star Wars full time.
Yes, easily.1. Retcon everything post Endor2. Hire Mike Stoklasa to write extensive notes on what works and what doesn't in Star Wars.3. Whatever Mike wrote, do the exact opposite.
>>216918112>say disney wars is shit>fuck off mouse shillAre you retarded or just shitposting blindly
>>216915172Nope. And I'm honestly surprised Snyder is the only one to try and do the space opera thing. There are a lot of disenfranchised nerds out there, just waiting for a plastic laser sword to be shoved into their hands and to be fed empty platitudes about being good honest and fair. And they want it while staring at a half-naked space princess.
>>216915497The best story in Star Wars is only 22 years old though
>>216915172I know you hate them, but Rich Evans is right. The Star Wars universe is actually infinitesimally small. It was never meant to be this huge sweeping saga of epics. It was a classical hero's journey put into a Buck Rogers setting with some chanbara influence. When they try to expand the universe, it sucks, which only leaves with them derivative slop.
>>216918292If you didnt know it was over after tfa there's no hope for you. You've been an unpaid mouse shill for the last decade you dumb fuck.
>>216918330Literally every single attempt at doing it failed. John Carter, Valerian, Rebel Moon.
>>216918659John Carter was sabotaged!
>>216915172>Canonize the Nword in the star wars universe>Princess Leia mating press flashback scene>Kill Rey character off screen, finn too>Main character a white male actor, strong and smart>Beautiful female side character and love interest >Tie it in with the birth of Mohamad as the last Jedi, where he rebukes the force and embraces the light of Allah >Final scene the main character names the international Jew and calls Disney kikes.>Kanye west nigga heil Hitler as outro theme
>>216918765I think Rebel Moon's marketing campaign was dreadfully mishandled too. No one even knew the 2nd one's release date.
>>216916934Why?
they need to decanonize the sequels and just make one more movie set after return of the jedi
>>216915172Simply make a trilogy based on the Old Republic games. That easy
>>216918847KotOR instead of Sequel Trilogy.Battle of Jabiim instead of Rogue One.Darth Plagueis instead of Andor.It would've been so easy.
>>216915172Anon... it's over. It isn't worth saving.
>>216918982I dont want disney touching any of that stuff you retarded fuckwit.
>>216919194Careful now.
>>216916615Dilate tranny
>>216915272>nopeCorrect. They've done too much damage turning it into a girlboss brand that it can no longer be salvageable.
>>216915357>watch the Mandalorian movie and Starfighter.HAHAHAHAHA FUCK NO!
>>216915528>It's during the first 10 minutes of Star Wars 1977 that the first rented Disney prop makes its first appearance.Which prop is that?
>>216915272/thread
>>216915172No. Disney would never have the balls to come out and say all this shit shince 2015 is not canon.
>>216915172No. Fuck Star Wars.
>>216915172Under Disney? No. Not a single thing Disney has ever made has been good, don't fall for the jeets shilling for Mando or Andor cause they're just as fucking bad. The only way to save Star Wars would be to get it away from Disney, and especially Kath Kennedy and Filoni's grubby hands, and give it to people who care. Too bad that won't happen.
>>216919455Trannies support nu wars you faggot halfwit.
>>216919617Your sisters cunt.
>>216917143>disney sequels part of legends and write them off as the most expensive fan fic ever made and use AI to remake the sequels with lucas scripts bait or retardation, your callAlso letting the sequels ruin the safe bastion of the old EU is fucking insulting. Considering the best Disney product is so fucking bad it makes the Holiday Special and Ewoks show look like a passion project, putting them alongside the CWMMP or the Thrawn Trilogy is vomit-inducing.
>>216915357>Yes, watch the Mandalorian movie and Starfighter.I prefer Blandor instead!
>>216919617The faux diplodocus skeleton that C-3PO walks near is the same prop from Disney's "One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing" (1975).
>>216915172Saved how? It's a children's entertainment franchise. Grow up.
The original voice of the Emperor in TESB is also a character in One of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing. Thought that was worth noting.
It's dead, Jim
>>216915172No. Oversaturation. Too many writers. Cluttered universe. How can you keep a coherent cannon together when you don’t have a single voice / mind to impose order?
>>216920416Shut the fuck up reddit
>>216915172In many ways, George Lucas was the first victim of cancel culture.Paleo social media dorks in the early 00's pounced on the idea of tearing him down, and proceeded to rabidly spread falsehoods, and persecute anyone who didn't go along with their shit.In retrospect, you look back on these people and see them for what they were. Dweebs and bullies. Hypocrites who would probably make a million excuses for the trash of their childhoods, but the SW prequels were different for some reason. The kinds of people who will unironically tell you things like the original TMNT cartoon or He-Man is really good (it isn't).
>>216915895>say Star Wars can't be saved because we all know how to do it but Disney will never do itI came here to say something similar minus the second paragraph ramble.I don't believe it'll be saved any time soon if at all. It can be saved but it is highly unlikely to the point of improbability. And yes, the first step is retconning the sequel trilogy and many or perhaps all of the Disney productions, even Andor and Rogue One despite them being well received.
>>216921077Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit
>>216918982>Darth Plagueis instead of AndorThat book got a lot wrong.>Per Luceno, Plagueis dies at the end of TPM. Per Lucas, he died years before it. Palpatine was running the show the whole trilogy.>Per Luceno, Maul isn't a true Sith Apprentice. Per Lucas, he is.>Per Luceno, Hego Damask exists. Per Lucas, he doesn't.>Per Luceno, Plagueis funded the Clone Army. Per Lucas, it was Dooku because no duh.
Give it to me.No, seriously.Give it to me.Give the whole thing to me.All of it.I will fix it.I will fix the whole damn thing.I will right the course.Yes, I am dead serious in my words.I will return Star Wars to its remarkable glory.I will ensure there are Star Wars toys flowing out of your kids Christmas stockings again.I will ensure that there are five video games on the market at all times being hailed and voted as game of the year contenders for over a decade straight.I will cast young and sexy up and coming stars that will have the quotable dialogue and fantastic jaw dropping moments for a captivating series of movies that will define and launch their careers to the point their great grandchildren will never not be rich.I will get the greatest minds in cinema to fashion for me a film in such scale and grandeur, it will be studied in film schools for years.I will write riveting romance that will cater to the women, heroics and bravery and jaw-dropping action to cater to the men, strong, memorable and lovable characters for families of all kinds. Stories about boys and girls in this universe with strange aliens from a thousand different worlds.I will make films and cartoons of all the Legends stories, the good and the cheesy. All of it will receive cinematic and video game treatments, and toy and product lines accompanying them. New Jedi Order, Dark Empire, all of it.I will work tirelessly for the rest of my life to deliver Star Wars to its apex; its TRUE potential. I will make it my life's mission to make and deliver Star Wars kino and demand nothing less than the absolute best from those who are creative and passionate about the universe that will work with me to do it.We've seen what the "experts" did with Star Wars.So...Give the whole thing to me.
>>216921487>Per LucasWhere?
>>216915172In many ways, no. It can still be milked by specific approaches or projects but going forward in the time line is impossible. TLJ specifically did too much story damage. It would be like trying to continue/revive game of thrones after the last few seasons. There is no point. This is why they try delving into the past more but it’s a dwindling approach with little to get excited for.
>>216915895>That is to retcon the Sequel TrilogyThis doesnt “save” anything though. It just makes viewers more apathetic.
>>216915172Yes.>retcon Disney's ST>adapt Kevin J Anderson's Jedi Academy Trilogy>respect the established lore pre-Disney buyout>????>profit!
>>216915172They haven't hired me yet, so doubt it. Also I'm not Jewish. Also the elites figured out we were all of us learning about greater geopolitics within the deep-state systems so they decided to dial back all the deeper messages like that in Star Wars and all the stuff that made it appealing to chuds like us. And have repurposed it glorify woke propaganda, to appeal to single woman with mixed children and niggers, and lgbtq+ crowd. The Slywalker saga is now the Palpatine saga and its been run into the ground like mad. The chickens jews beat the shit out of and sacrifice to trick God dont even look as bad as what the Skywalker/Palpatine Saga looks like now. Star Wars need to leave the Skywalker/Palpatine saga alone, and need to embrace the darker more adult aspects of Star Wars now. They need to match the Warhammer 40k energy that they're going to be competing with eventually, or Star Wars will become a permanent joke if they remain the course. And also fisney will need to retcon their entire Palpatine Saga. Probably save the Skywalker saga in books games and comics or bring back The Expanded Universe books as canon again and have the popular writers continue where they left off before the disney takeover. Disney needs to accept how badly they fucked up, and then correct themselves. They canceled ruin johnsons shit sounds like, but they need to go further... until then. I avoid all things disney, star wars, jar jar abrams, ruin johnson, george lucas, Steven speilberg, Ron howard, most ZOGGED out films or ZOGGED out directors films. I doubt any of it will be fixed. But I gave an honest trajectory they could take.
>>216922905>retcon Disney's ST>>216922773Why just repeat the same autistic nonsense over and over? This fixes it for like 12 autists online for everyone else it only makes it worse.
>>216922915>Star Wars need to leave the Skywalker/Palpatine saga alone, and need to embrace the darker more adult aspects of Star Wars nowStar Wars isnt Star Wars if it isn’t about Jedi and sith. This is why everything else beyond the OT and PT has been awful
>>216922952Fixes it for everyone faggot, quit being a faggot. Pull cock from ass and see reason.
>>216922739>TLJ specifically did too much story damageSuch as?
>>216922996>spergoutI accept your concession. Nothing beyond the OT is worth following up on, Im sick of hearing from you faggots who never read real books and got super obsessed with “official” fan fiction
>>216922974The Skywalker/Palpatine Saga is the period in Star Wars lore with the least amount of living Jedi or Sith, you humongous nigger faggot retard...
>>216923002>luke didnt just disappear while everything went to shit he actually debated killing a child in his sleep >fuck the Jedi order it SHOULD burn>war? As in Star Wars? Psh they don’t happen for any other reason than profiteering
>>216923045Oh look you spammed evil meanie words! You totally fit in faggot
>>216923022I grew up in a time where it was either read faggot Harry Potter or the expanded universe books from the scholastic book fairs that came to school... Of course I chose expanded universe. Quite a bit of it is good, and became accepted established lore before the dark times, before the disney.
>>216923088Oh look, you're reiterating how much of a nigger faggot ass retard you are! You definitely belong on reddit!
>>216923068The "kylo dindu nuffin" origin goes along with the "kill the past" thing started in TFA.The Jedi Order were assholes if you looked at the prequels and what was said in much of the expanded lore. And Star Wars was done for profiteering and control. >>216923045>sagaOpinion disregarded
>>216915172i honestly just dont care anymore
>>216921487>Per Lucas, he died years before it. No indication this is true. By the time RotS happens, it makes sense that Palps would see it as a memory instead of a recent event since it's been more than two decades. Palpatine was also running the show in the novel, Plagueis as both the novel and RotS state was way too trusting a Sith and he gave too much leeway to Palps who took over ASAP.>Per Lucas, he is.No. Palpatine was well aware that Maul would die in Naboo and wouldn't train a Sith to last for less than a couple years. Maul is as much a Sith as Ventress is, Palps always had his eyes on Dooku and then Anakin. You can tell Maul isn't a Sith because while he's given a Darth title, Maul is his real name rather than a Sith honorific.>Per Lucas, he doesn't.Huh? Since when? Darth Plagueis is obviously not his real name, it's a Sith title. Like Palpatine is Sidious, Dooku is Tyrannus, Anakin is Vader...>Per Lucas, it was Dooku because no duh.Dooku invested in them but Plagueis paid the initial payments. This makes sense because as wealthy as being count of Serenno makes you, it is nowhere near enough to fund something on the scale of the clone army with such tech, whereas siphoning cash from the biggest banking conglomerate in the galaxy does let you invest in such stuff. Dooku was more involved with finding the genetic sample and making sure the Jedi found the place and the war was started, which he could do using his political influence and general ability to scheme.
>>216921520It’s time to take your meds, anon
>>216923161>>Opinion disregarded Thats fine, I'm quite sure ive made it plain to all on here that I'm in no way seeking the approval of trans nigger faggot retards.
>>216915172Yeah but only if someone buys it from disney and does to their garbage what they did to the EU.
>>216923241Absolutely, Anon. 100% agree
>>216922905>>216922996>>216923002Fucking mouse shills
>>216922952>This fixes it for like 12 autists onlineBullshit you disingenuous retard. There was a thriving and acknowledged canon long before Disney took over. STAR WARS fans expected Disney to respect the fanbase and adapt already established stories that were, up until 2012, CANON. Or at least tailor stories that fit within the already established ethos. When Lucas was in control there was a solid line of "canonization". Nothing could supersede the movies/shows, as they were G(eorge) CanonBooks came next in the lineComics after thatThen VideogamesAll tried to tie themselves into this tapestry of sci-fi mythology while respecting previous entries. It was relatively rare for a major upset to Canon Lore to occur. And when it did it was Lucas himself establishing new G-Canon. When Disney took over they basically said>fuck all this shit from the last 30+ years>fuck everything that this shit was building>here's our OC and IT IS CANON BECAUSE WE LEGALLY OWN THE IP NOWFuck that shit. And fuck you.Luke established a successful Praxeum with many successful studentsDash Rendar was integral to freeing Han and the Empire's downfallKyle and Jan stole the DS1 plansKyle became the Battlemaster of Luke's new Jedi OrderThe Suncrusher is WAY better than Starkiller BaseBoba is the new and current Mand'alor and quashed his beef with HanHan never died, yet it took an entire planet-crash to take out ChewieImperial Remnant > First OrderYuuzhon Vhong > Palpatine returning(somehow), in spite of Dark EmpireInquisitor Jerec and his Dark Jedi > Snoke, Kylo Ren and anything else Disney created
>>216921520>I will make films and cartoons of all the Legends stories, the good and the cheesy.So, two good ones and a thousand cheesy ones?
It could be saved by putting it to pasture, we have enough Star Wars media
>>216923306>>216923088 what im saying here in no way makes me a mouse shill you insufferable nigger faggot retard who cant be bothered to read past other Anon's posts... im staunchly anti Palpatine saga sequel trilogy, and all of disney star wars tv. Haven't supported anything after the last brown eye came out. Nothing will put me in a seat to see a star wars film until they retcon the entire sequel trilogy.
Just add more Shin.
>>216915172There are seven movies in the seiesthe three originalsthe prequelsrogue one (clearly had lucas influenceand the clone wars cartoons for kids onlyAfter that, you are done, lthe last jedi killed it stone dead for anything new forever and the force awakes was meh
>>216923388>NO ALL 'FRANCHISES' MUST LAST FOREVER AND HAVE INHERENT COMMERCIAL VALUE FOREVER!!NOPE
>>216923314>Only complains about Disney retconning the OT and post-OT>Doesn't complain about TCW and Disney retconning the MMPSad. MMP is way way better than anything that came after. Even Traviss Mandofaggotry is way more detailed and inspired than anything Fagloni and his crew of hacks did for TCW.
>>216915172Alternate universe where Star Wars is good abridged1) Luke Mourns Han2) More scenes of Jedi Academy and Kylo3) Use the Colin Trevorrow version of Episode 94) Book of Boba Fett becomes a Two Half TV show. First half is amazing a linear narrative starts with Sarlacc Pit and ends at burying his best friends then discovering Fennec. Second Half is him and Fennec getting revenge and he becomes Daimyo. Then Mandalorian is now "Bonus Episodes" and the finale is a big fantasy scene of Boba + Mando fighting and its just fan service now.5) Kenobi show is now based on the Clone Wars Kenobi who is a badass6) In Ahsoka its her apprentice who goes to the Chiss ship and considered an epic feat of Jedi power that she was thrown that far7) Andor was fixed to connect to Rogue One with using its theme song as the ending song of RO. Name is changed from Andor to Rogue Spies. First two episodes of each season are forced to be cut down into just one.There now everyone loves Star Wars more than any other franchise.
>>216923476coomer simp opinion immediately discarded. you tolerate absolute shit just so you can COOM
>>216923410You fucking faggot. There's no saving it. No fixing it. Its fucking over. The 6 movies are a complete story. There's decades of pre Disney eu in multiple formats for anyone who needs more. Anyone who thought it could ever be fixed after tfa never knew or gave a fuck about star wars to begin with. Retarded filth like you and half of this thread who think that 10 years after the fact that star wars can or will ever be saved are beyond lost, probably too stupid to be left alive. Keeping nu wars shill threads alive with your utter idiocy and opinions which have been posted countless times already. You do it for free. You keep nu wars threads alive, youre a proxy shill for disney's abomination. Fuck you.
>>216923541>rogue one (clearly had lucas influencekekRogue One is total shit and most certainly has zero Lucas influence, but has influence from people who don't understand basic logic let alone Star Wars>Makes the Death Star's exhaust port a planned weakness because of three retarded critics even though it makes perfect sense that the Empire in ANH wouldn't consider it a weakness (it's a million to one shot) and it's far more improbable that Galen's little plan got through all of administration and his fellow scientists>Rebels are portrayed as morally grey terrorists willing to harm innocents when that was never a Lucas plot point, Saw Guerrera is a Fagloni OC>Whole cast dies at the end for no fucking reason>Main villain is a fucking loser who makes Hux look competent>Shitty useless fanfiction moments like Tarkin appearing for one scene to see the DSI blow up Jedha (when he should have probably had a way bigger role in the film), Vader doing shitty puns and his pointless "badass" scene at the end, and Leia and Antilles appearing for no fucking reason beyond "oh yeah ANH is next". Replicated with extremely fucking bad CGI deepfakes instead of recasts>Droid sidekick isn't funny and is instead a rude asshole>Empire are inneffective morons who fail to do basic shit>Rebellion has a fleet large enough to attack Scarif even though they lack a proper big fleet until RotJ in actual Lucas canon, and unlike in the EU the discrepancy is not explained ever>Destroys ANH by having Leia be physically present at Scarif (which contradicts Vader pointing out in ANH that the plans were transmitted to the Tantive IV) and escape in full sight of Vader and his men, which makes her trying to bullshit Vader about being on a diplomatic mission retarded as shit
>>216923714don't care faggot, LMAOing @ ur life
>>216923214Darth Plagueis isn't Lucas canon.
>>216923677>Clone War MMP is the first STAR WARS MMPYou betray your literal newfaggotry and didn't even factor in character limits for posts. In my eyes the true STAR WARS canon is, in chronological order>Knights of the Old Republic I&II>Darth Bane trilogy>*time skip*>Episodes 1-2>Clone Wars (Genndy & Filoni WARS are both fireside tales)>Republic Commando>Episode 3>Pandemic's Battlefront 2>Dark Forces>Episode 4>Rogue Squadron>Episode 5>Shadows of the Empire>Episode 6>Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight>Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast>Dark Empire>Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy (Marka Ragnos crisis)>Jedi Academy Trilogy>Yuuzhan Vong War>Dark Nest Crisis
>>216915172Yes its easy just make Knights of the Old Republic. Guaranteed minimum 1 billion dollar box office, probably closer to 1.5.
>>216923848>Rebels are portrayed as morally grey terrorists willing to harm innocents when that was never a Lucas plot point, Saw Guerrera is a Fagloni OCSaw's a Lucas original. He was created for Star Wars: Underworld, and was featured in TCW to give him a backstory.>Vader doing shitty puns and his pointless "badass" scene at the endBro, quit being a fucking nerd. Ew. You're just nitpicking now.
>>216924111kek another fucking touristThat quote doesn't mean what you think it means at all. Actually research Lucas' long history of EU statements, he's inconsistent but overall they lean towards "these aren't stories I'm telling but I consider them part of my universe, just not the world I created personally." Everything in the EU passed through him and he heavily collaborated in stuff like the MMP and games like The Force Unleashed (of course a normgroid like you hasn't watched the TFU BTS clips)Picrel is part of Lucas' statement in the prologue of the rerelease of Spliner of the Mind's Eye, where he explains how he loves the EU.>>216924125I never said the MMP was the first conjoined project faggot. Genndywars is far better than Fagloniwars and there's all the side media like Republic or the Stover books.>>216924232>Saw's a Lucas originalLmfao. The whole "Saw was designed by Lucas personally for Underworld" shit comes from Pablo Hidalgo who's well known for lying his ass off to protect Disney. It's a great way of putting the blame on Lucas since he knows that way a lot of retards who still take him as an authority figure will not blame in on Fagloni let alone Disney for bringing him back where not needed>You're just nitpicking now.Mind of the average Disneycuck, basic character consistency and plot relevance is beyond your comprehension. You can't understand that Vader in the OT didn't just randomly do puns (yes he did one with Needa but the point was his frustration and he's far more serious for the rest of the movie) nor that he wasn't required at all in Rogue One since his contributions are little more than nostalgia bait which you willingly eat like the glutton you are.
>>216924434Oops wrong picrel. Here it is for realNeed to clean out my pictures folder
>>216923677>>216923690>>216923848>>NO ALL 'FRANCHISES' MUST LAST FOREVER AND HAVE INHERENT COMMERCIAL VALUE FOREVER!!The great mistake of hollywood bettinng on legalese garbage and attributing $$$ value to nothingness on their booksReboots, remakes endless sequels and 'frachises' killed hollywood and have result in a decade of nothing at all but the show MUST rol on because otherwise they have to write off billions on 'Intellectyual property rights' to 'franchises' and their books falisfied assets become toxic to shockholders
>>216923848>>Whole cast dies at the end for no fucking reasonbased that's what made it a decent movie imo
>>216916362>Uwe Boll
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>>216915357Mandalorian started out having my interest. Y'know, the episodic adventures of a hunter and his lil yoda. But I couldn't continue when they started on all that "destiny of mandalore" or whatever, and the chosen one mandalore lightsaber. Am I misremembering or was it a darksaber? That's even sillier.I want to have faith that the show is worth watching all the way through and that even the movie will be quality but again all the destiny-mandalore-darklightsaber-fate-chosen-one stuff sours my interest too much I think.
No it really can't. Disney somehow managed to completely destroy one of the largest, most popular, and most influential pop culture juggernauts in history inside of ten years. There is absolutely zero coming back from that. You can't even say we'll always have the originals because they've managed to retroactively fuck all of that up as well with their revisions to the canon in the name of DEI and shitting on the fans. Star Wars is an absolute fucking joke now and the only people left who give it a chance are delusional drones who blind themselves with nostalgia and think maybe this time they won't get kicked in the nads again by the cleats that are positioned right over their dicks. Pack it up, go home, and move on with your life.
>>216924667You don't like Star Wars.
>>216924641Mega kek>Half of the quotes are from post-Lucasfilm buyout where Disney has every reason to say the EU was never canon and they are "the ones following Lucas">The other half are explicitly out of context and aren't what they say when you read the whole paragraphThis is your mind on DisneyAnyways, ask yourself this: If the EU was never canon, why was TCW which Lucas heavily collaborated in 90% stolen from the EU? Why was Coruscant named like that instead of Had Abaddon like he intended? Why are there ships from Shadows of the Empire in the ANH Special Edition? None of these changes which Lucas was the one doing them make sense if the EU is just "meaningless stories" like Disney cocksuckers like you say.
The only canon is what Lucas directly had a hand in making and everything else is extracanonical fanfiction that can be easily ignored there I saved the franchise.
>>216915172No.
You can't even begin to save it as long as that hack faggot Filoni is anywhere near it. Get rid of him first and then it can start to heal.
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>>216924707I wish you'd reply with a bit more effort. I DO like Star Wars anon, I almost can't express how much I cherish the Original Trilogy.If you're wanting to convince me that Mandalorian is worth continuing then please, I'm all ears.
>>216915172>Can it be saved?no six movies onlyzero interest beyong themUS corpos are defined by mediocrity now, enjeetification, enshittifucation, diversity whatever the reason everything from disney though microsoft and mcdonalds is the opposite of why they suceeded in the first placeIf you want crap and mediocre buy US corp or alibaba and get crap
>>216925023>Mandalorian
In a better world didney would release the theatrical cuts of ANH, ESB and ROTJ on Blu Ray and abandon the IP and finally let it die.
>>216924914Filoni is a fucking parasite. Sure Kathleen and Jar Jar Abrams and Ruin Johnson and the rest of the crew are just as bad, but Filoni has been in Lucasfilm SINCE THE START of the Disney buyout and he was a major driving part of ca ton of horrible decisions. Like the pictures before show he was partly to blame for Acolyte and Jake Skywalker but he also heavily worked on all the Disney+ slop, giving horrible ideas. It's clear the only reason TCW was half-watchable by audiences was because 1. George reigned him in on his more ridiculous ideas like the wolf OC crap and shit we'd see in his TCW Disney season, and 2. he practically stole 95% of the plots from far more talented Legends authors and then just passed it off as his while shitting on their workI'm as pissed at him as I am at Kathleen for being a talentless coffee girl who destroyed both SW, Indiana Jones and Willow for her shitty feminazi agenda.
>>216915172I'm not sure.I'm a big believer in letting things ends, letting art rest once and for all. I thinks it's clear to everyone that endlessly franchising and serialising any idea, no matter the story or medium, only ends in rot.But if there were to be more Star Wars, some things I might like to see are:-Set in the FAR far past-drop the tinkerer/scrapper vibes for some time. Don't get me wrong, navigating laser fire in your ol' reliable bucket of bolts has its charm but I've had more than enough of every piece of tech and ship being some rusty dirty clanky scrappy piece o' crap that just barely works.-Explore earlier cultures and practices surrounding The Force. Before the militarization of the Jedi, or even before the formation of the Jedi identity itself.And of course the total removal of disney and its influence.
>>216916615>we've wllESL tranny
>>216915357The fact there is a Mandalorian movie at all just goes to show that the franchise is beyond salvation
>>216924756>If the EU was never canon, why was TCW which Lucas heavily collaborated in 90% stolen from the EU?Because he thought some bits were cool and wanted to include them.>Why was Coruscant named like that instead of Had Abaddon like he intended? Because somebody convinced him to use it for synergy reasons. It's throwing a bone to the EU without fully committing.>Why are there ships from Shadows of the Empire in the ANH Special Edition?Because they were intended for the Special Edition and were added to Shadows for synergy.Shadows just came out first.>None of these changes which Lucas was the one doing them make sense if the EU is just "meaningless stories" like Disney cocksuckers like you say.They make perfect sense, retard. It ain't some conspiracy, but standard business shit. For example, Grievous was created for Episode 3 but was featured in the CWMMP first. And because the CWMMP is LICENSED media, it can easily be overwritten by the main media like the movies and shows.
>>216915172>Can it be saved?Not as long as Disney's in charge. The only decent stuff they produce are the stuff that they underestimate so the execs don't get as involved>Early Mandolorian>Andor>Skeleton CrewThose are ok. Otherwise they've proven time and time again that they destroy anything they touch. Retconning the ST won't do anything because they'd just make an even shittier ST all over again. They've learned nothing from their failures
Disney haters.. when are you going to stop hating Disney? Is it really worth it?
You just have to wait another 10-15 years for gen alpha/beta to be making seamless Star Wars installments via artificial intelligence which in many cases will far surpass anything we’ve witnessed thus far. Eventually someone with real talent will be showcasing their work here and Disney won’t be able to keep up. They’ll either co-opt said talent or simply make it public domain if people choose to stop giving them money for their political agenda slop. The best has yet to come
>>216915172Without full scrapping of post 2012 lore - no, not really.
>>216926883>>216927007Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit
>>216915172Star Wars is invincible.Disney Wars needs to be saved.
>>216915172It cannot be saved, and that's a good thing. Star Wars is literally boomer slop.
lucas needs to come back and make a new trilogy to overwrite everything (what he intended for 7-9).that's the only thing that can save it.
Star Wars is dead now and in the future. No one under the age of 25 can give even one little shit about Star Wars. The Gen Xers gave up on Star Wars decades ago. Some manbabby 40-something-year-old Millennials still hold on but their kids aren't interested in Star Wars. Zoomers and Alphas barely even know Star Wars is a thing, and the few who know about Star Wars think it's a old fashioned movie series that their weird 50 year old uncle likes. Star Wars is so over.
Here's how you fix Star Wars. Let it disappear for twenty five years, for an entire generation. Let everyone forget all about Star Wars. Then, bring it back by announcing a new trio of movies, and make the movies about the origin of Star Wars. ?Begin right before living beings became force sensitive. Then show how force sensitivity gave rise to a sudden but rapid evolution of certain species, and how that evolution brought about advances in technology and understanding of the unifying force of nature. Then show the earliest formation of the Je'daii and Si'itth houses and how force sensitivity allowed different strengths to be manifested in both houses.
>>216915172Star wars is over. I cant stand it now. What disney did to star wars is a crime. I stopped consuming anything disney related because of how badly they ruined star wars. I wasnt a star wars fan either. I though that return of the jedi was shit. And failed the original trilogy. The prequels were also shit. Except for revenge of the sith because things actually happen in that one. I only ever watched the force awakens and that was enough to turn me away from anything disney star wars forever. I learned about what happened in the following star wars films from youtube reviews and they were somehow worse then the force awakens. But its not just star wars. Modern hollywood is just so fucking bad. Bad writing, bad acting, bad everything. I cant watch that shit. Its like hollywood stopped being mature and masculine and become weak and childish. Same is true for music, tv shows and videogames. They all suck now. No wonder I see zoomers loving old stuff.
>>216928279Nobody wants game of force with the original force user being some nigger bitch. Leave it alone, fuckwit.
>>216923848These may all be legitimate complaints but the only thing I remember about Rogue One is that there's something quite off about the character roster. They really are a crew of characters written to die.>Off-brand Cayde-6>slightly different looking Rey>Humorless characterless off the shelf "rogue" type guy who's morally grey or whatever>Chinese monk>Vaguely Asiatic guy who's just there to be the big one and break up the silhouettes a bit
>>216923848Amen. Rouge Won sucks.
>>216924232Nta, but Darth Vader acting like Jason Voorhees was embarrassing. It was a decent fan film moment at best.
They have at minimum a 25,000 year timeline and entire galaxy to explore and create new stories. The fifty year period on five planets is fucking done and over. They completely killed it so just let it die. Move on from the Skywalker saga and just make new shit. It will never happen but that's what it will take
>>216923848Rogue One is literally the only Disney era movie George liked
>>216915172It shouldn't be.
The issue with Star wars is that there aren't a lot of major characters that are all that interesting that aren't either killed during the prequels or are a bad guy. A Grievous movie could be great or Thrawn could absolutely mainline a trilogy but they are villains and showing them as the protagonist just isn't going to fly.
>>216915172Yes.It's time for good to be dominant and evil to be the underdog.
>>216930162Source, please.
>>216930162Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit
>>216930336^I always read these posts in the surplus store nazi guy voice from Falling Down.
>>216930282https://www.nme.com/news/george-lucas-seen-star-wars-rogue-one-heres-thought-1893040https://www.jedinews.com/film-music-tv/articles/andor-showrunner-tony-gilroy-reveals-call-with-george-lucas-after-rogue-one-release/In contrast, he was open about not liking TFA at all, was polite but neutral on TLJ, and didn't bother even seeing ROS
>>216930119>Move on from the Skywalker sagaStar Wars is about the Skywalkers, bro. The Sequels have to be about a new Skywalker. The Father, the Children, and the Grandchildren. It's like JoJo.
>>216930393>In contrast, he was open about not liking TFA at all, was polite but neutral on TLJThose two facts alone make me wonder if he wasn't telling a fib on seeing Rogue One. I mean, Disney may have called him and voiced their displeasure at being called white slavers.
EUfags are insanely embarrassing cultists. The most hilarious bit is when they try to rewrite history and pretend like George Lucas was behind their third-rate licensed fanfiction and "approved" it, when he openly distanced himself from it, constantly contradicted it, and at times outright mocked it. If George Lucas were to come back and make his sequel trilogy, these people would literally fucking kill themselves lmao, because it sure wouldn't feature their blue sherlock holmes admiral, "mara jade", and all the other fanfiction garbage from 9000 shitty books and comics that were made and allowed to exist for the sole purpose of cashing in on desperate fanboys.
>>216930646Him treating the devs of Force Unleashed as idiots I kind of have to admit was based
>>216930374I wonder how many kikes that post took out?
>>216930646>mara jadeLucas was into parallels so a love interest for Luke would be another Leia/Padme.
>>216915172I'd say a show about Sheev's early years "could" be good, but they somehow managed to fuck up Boba Fett despite setting him up decently in the Mandalorian.
>>216931016Shut the fuck up faggot. You're a part of the problem.
>>216931016His Lucas backstory would've had him wronged by a gangster chick in his Underworld show. It would've been Star Wars meets the Sopranos. So like the Penguin but in Coruscant's lower levels. The chick could either be a GF or his mom. Either way works as a parallel to either Padme or Schmi.
>>216921487Per Lucas, Darth Plagueis is a fake and gay story Palpatine made up. Source: pic related, Paul Duncan's expensive-ass book in which he extensively interviewed Lucas.
>>216931127I bet her name was Marsha.
>stop putting meaningless slop out on Disney+>spend a couple of years making a trilogy about some Sith and Jedi dudes (not dudes, as in men) fighting 10000 years before the other movies or something idk. Film it back to back and then release them each year like LOTR and the wicked movies >don’t put out ANYTHING Star Wars in the meantime besides like a Disneyland ride or other shit no one really cares about Would reach 5 billion easily if the movies were at least halfway decent I reckon
>>216931671They're basically doing this already, the slop river has been shut downThe only things in real, actual production right now are the Mando movie (2026), Starfighter (2027) and Ahsoka S2 (no date, probably 2027)
>>216915172>canyes>willno
You do a Marvel "What If" thing where Anakin doesn't go with Qui-Gon and becomes a professional podracer instead. Sidious fails to take over the senate, and literally nothing after the first half of Phantom Menace ever happens. No Luke Skywalker, no Battle of Yavin, no ewoks, nothing but podracing. The clone wars haven't ended and the CIS are stil sporadically fighting the Republic. Mace Windu and Qui-Gon are still alive. Jar Jar is killed in the Battle of Naboo.Cast an adult Jake Lloyd and we follow his adventures in the outer rim as a podracer who doesn't know he's force-sensitive and just thinks he's really good at racing. The Jedi are still spying on him because they know he's the Chosen One, but he doesn't care and refuses to be part of their faggy cult. Anakin has to dodge bounty hunters, the Hutts, and various nasty spice traders while trying to win races.The jedi are split over him. Some of them led by Qui-Gon want to recruit him, and others led by Windu want to kill him to make sure he doesn't bring about the end of the galaxy. Anakin and his hot Twi'Lek girlfriend have to stay one step ahead of everybody.The only way you can save it is to go back in time and literally start all of this shit over again.
https://litter.catbox.moe/fqr92mt7y6estb92.mp3
One of their big issues is that the post Rise of Skywalker era is a giant box of Nothing. If we had something new and good, people could look over the shitty in-between. Like, people didnt enjoy Dark Empire, with clone-palpatine coming back and conquering the entire galaxy in 2 months, only to be beaten back and we´re back to square one. But if you liked Jacen and Jaina and all the other new jedi order stuff, does that really matter? You just turn off your brain, say "yeah, whatever, that old stuff sucked but this new thing here is cool" and you´re good.But there is no new good thing.
>>216932359>people didnt enjoy Dark EmpireThe book nerds didn't. Those dorks hate anything cool.
>>216932397Without Dark Empire we wouldn't have the Old Republic. It's insane how many elements it introduced that became a permanent part of the setting.
I wish I had a chance to live in a world where Star Wars was completely absent from the public eye
>>216930646Damn, guess we have to stop playing every SW game, or never read any book/comic ever again because it's ''fan-fic'' and not made officially by George. How do people like you even function.
>>216932482>guess we have to stop playing every SW game, or never read any book/comic ever again because it's ''fan-fic'' and not made officially by George.Not his point, retard.
>>216932467So 1988-1990 then.
>>216915172Funny how videogames have become the last bastion of quality for this franchise.This and Jedi 3 are the only things worth looking forward to.
>>216932648Star Tours came out at Disneyland in 1987 and it was SW's 10th anniversary (technically 11th) so that gave it a slight boost until 1991 when it really started to begin again.
>>216932763Maybe they’ll suck. But even at their worse they will still be better than anything live action made by Disney.
>>216930162>oy heckin' vey georgerino liked it o algoLucas is a shill nowadays. Back in the day he wasn't afraid to call out Disney as the white slavers of Star Wars and shit on them, now he says he's all for them because that way he won't get sued by the mouse (not that he'd lose any cash but lawsuits are a really annoying deal that take years to settle). So he just bullshits his way around shit nowadays
>>216923848All of that is true and it's still a far more enjoyable movie than episodes 7 8 and 9
>>216930190>empire are evil>sith (evil) lightsaber color is red>but the empire's death star laser is greenhmm
>>216924985>Two jews>One was Weinstein's secretaryHow do you go from secretary to director?
>>216915172just do more prequel stuff and its saved
Saved from what?
>>216932749>Being made by a 6 month old companyIt's gonna be a long time and i have low expectations, at least the pod racer game looks fun
>>216922905Why the Academy trilogy over Heir to the Empire?
>>216938724Not that anon, but I'd bet Thrawn fatigue, like me.
>>216938724I just liked it more. It's a decent timeskip after RotJ and each character is pretty much right where you'd expect them to be with plenty of mystery before and after the start of the JA trilogy.>hints of the destruction caused by Thrawn as well as World Devastators>each of the main cast are where you'd expect them to be>Leia is a high ranking Republic diplomat and is like her returning to her life before the rebellion>Han & Chewie are Republic dignitaries, yet chaffing under their new responsibilities, yearning for the good ol' days>Lando is also a Republic dignitary but instead is absolutely loving the recognition and perks >Threepio is nanny to the Solo twins (baby Anakin is hidden away from Imperial Remnant)>Artoo is chilling with Luke at his Praxeum on Yavin 4>Luke's Jedi Praxeum is already somewhat established as he goes out searching for more Force sensitives>whole story begins with a mystery as Admiral Ackbar's modified B-Wing shuttle is sabotaged before a diplomatic mission to Vortex, crashing into the Cathedral of Winds, killing hundreds of Vors and destroying an ancient cultural siteAnd I like the Sun Crusher. Pic related's design, not the icecream cone one.
