Why can’t conservatives create art?
They are not creative.
Cinema is not art, it's jewish propaganda
>>216926761>Mel Gibson and Clint Eastwood make bad moviesAren't there some impressionable minors you should be grooming right now?
>>216927551Clint Eastwood is an atheist, literally not conservative
>>216926761>>216927458>>216927511>>216927551Threadly reminder the majority of the greatest artists to ever walk the Earth would all be considered conservative by todays standards.Liberals don't create art, they copy endlessly and destroy.
>>216927584Conservatism has nothing to do with religion. Conservatism is another thing christcuks pretend is theirs while they actively ruin it.
>>216927592>Threadly reminder the majority of the greatest artists to ever walk the Earth would all be considered conservative by todays standards.Yes, they were liberal by their day's standards.
Modern conservatives can't make art because they are hollow beings full of pointless outrage. Hollywood had plenty of awesome conservative artists from its start up untill the 90s, now only a few remain. Also with Christian artists why are there so few good evangelical artists and so many good Catholic ones.
Was Cormac McCarthy a conservative? His works gave me the impression.
>>216927707even if filthy libs allowed you to claim book author cormac, and screen actor mel without any pushback, this list of renowned conservative artists is still looking pretty vacant at this point.got any other contenders to put forth?
>>216926761Because most conservatives literally live by the stereotypes they want to push. So, you get a shit ton of people saying science is gay, art is gay, etc. etc. and that everything creative isn't a "real job".
>>216927707He is reddit now because someone I don't like likes him.
>>216927551Eastwood is a classic conservative, not some hacky maga cunt who accepts massive government spending, blatant violations of constitutional freedom and being a classless tasteless cunt all the time. There is effectively zero in common with maga aside from basic prejudice and laissez-faire economics.
>>216927670>If I make up my own definitions I win.They actually weren't. Liberals were rightly executed for most of recorded history. When killing them became unfashionable they were beaten.It wasn't until around WW1 that the pond scum that is the cancer of modern liberalism began to metastasize.Modern art is derivative trash and, as I said in the post and you just proved, liberals only steal and destroy--and you just tried to steal history and destroy it by replacing it with your own laughably pathetic lie.
>>216927943You're retarded.>>216927584<--this points remains uncontested.
>>216928405Man I really wish I understood the level of brainwashing and media illiteracy that makes someone this retarded. I'm guessing you haven't actually read a book outside school, right champ?
>>216928405>reddit spacinggo back
Does he count? If we're talking about contemporary conservative artists idk (｡◕‿‿◕｡)
>>216928514Ironically, his paranoia fueled racism makes him much closer to modern conservatism. He had no real economic or societal ideas beyond hating non-whites.
99% of movies made before 2010 would be considered 'conservative' by modern leftist standards
Jon Naughtington (hope I spelled that right) is another one
>>216926761You obviously haven't seen this classic
>>216927584Ah, we're doing that, are we? So, I take it the goalposts will constantly shift to disclude anyone from ever actually being a conservative. Like if I name Hitchcock who was openly devout in his Catholicism, you'd argue that his political views for the day were seen as liberal, despite the fact that they'd be considered far-right in the current era, right?That about sum up the usual disingenuous kikery of you leftists?
>>216928530a man who followed his instincts, unclouded and with purpose. the rest of his life may be a mess but his work was straight-forward and true. i can dig it.
>>216926761Neopuritans are inherently uncreative.
>>216928842Yes.
Right wingeds tend to be very young and looking for easy answers, you won't find any creatives or intellectuals willingly staying in Plato's cave.
>>216927670I don't think that's true. Take Cormac McCarthy for example, the quintessential American writer, a lifelong "conservative". I don't think there's any obvious pattern that great artists always have a certain political allegiance, other than the fact they are not obsessed with some plebeian ideology, because then they would be stuck making shitty propaganda and they wouldn't be great artists.
>>216928927Correct take.>>216928944I've noticed this as well.
>>216928694this is just pure trash
>>216927458fpbp
>>216927584You are fucking retarded
>>216927511why are you here?
>>216926761Meanwhile Spike Lee makes the same shit movie over and over again
>>216928842You can be religious and left-wing, but you cannot be an atheist and right-wing.This basic logic illudes you niggermonkeys.
>>216929006He's on a mission from God.
>>216926761Peterson explained it pretty well, he should have stuck to psychology.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyN_pUDNc2U
>>216929026>You cannon be atheist and right wing Lmao, you redditors truly are disgusting
>>216927707>His works gave me the impressionhow so? he comes across as a european style liberal to me.
>>216929026>you cannot be an atheist and right-wing.Isn't Elon Musk an atheist? I know you need all conservatives to be dumb rednecks but the reality is anyone above a certain income bracket is voting republican.
>>216929026>but you cannot be an atheist and right-wing???????????
The meaning of a 'conservative' or 'right winger' has been completely lost because leftists consider you a fucking nazi if you disagree with even one of their talking points
Right wingers generally are more intellectual while left wingers are more creative. We see this disparity reflected heavily in the professions they take.Take Performers. 90-10 split between the left and right. Musicians are 88-12. Comedians skew a little less at 82-18. All favor leftists heavily. But say Engineering? Petroleum Engineers are 14-86 in favor of the right. Mining Engineers are 18-82.Even in fields with a lot of both, you see the schism still holding true. The leftists go to the creative subgroups, the right wingers to the intellectual. Like medicine. Neurosurgeons are 35-65 in favor of the right. Orthopedic Surgeons are 25-75. Meanwhile, the "creative" side of medicine, you have Psycotherapists at 95-5. Child Psychiatrists at 83-17. Massage Therapists at 85-15. Another good mixed profession is Aviation. Pilots are 38-62 along with the Aircraft Mechanics at 38-62. But the Flight Attendants / Stewardess? 64-36.Now all that said, it's not JUST intellectual pursuits that drive away leftists. They also avoid any form of manual labor like the plague. Ranchers are 21-79. Loggers 24-76. Marines 21-79. Plumbers 40-60. Roofers 19-81. But something that's not necessarily creative but still represents 0 actual work will always be populated by leftists. Conservationists? 94-6. Chroeographers 100-0. Magazine Editor 94-6. Poet 96-4. Sociologist 96-4. Yoga Instructor 96-4. Midwife 90-10.Anyhow, creative shit will usually flow from the left. Conservatives are too busy with intellectual and physical pursuits to draw funny pictures or make pretendy-time.https://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/
>>216929051>>cannonYou CANNOT even copy the contents of my prior post correctly. You are literally too stupid to use this website. My diagnosis: you're from the third world and you earn less in a year than I earn in a week.>>216929058Elon Musk is a centrist.>>216929079Her so-called "Objectivism" is a religious cult based around herself.
I think the better question would be why "conservatives" today aren't called revolutionaries since the west has already been transformed radically by the left, what a modern "conservative" wants (or should want) is not to conserve anything but to restore it (in such a way that it will not be at risk of leftist attack again). Maybe they should be called traditionalist or restorationist, even if some christcucks already use that term for themselves
>>216929142>Elon Musk is a centrist.Dumbest thing I've read all day. The only reason he's anti GOP now is because he got played hard by Trump.
>>216929140Stopped reading your double digit IQ wall of pseudoscientific text after the first sentence. Intellectualism and creativity are the same thing.
>>216929142>religious cult based around oneselfenough about capitalism.
>>216926761I don't know.Why can't lefties create art?
>>216929162>Nuerosurgeons and Psychologists are both the same thing!>medical doctors, chud!o i am laffin
>>216929140It should be noted that even in the leftist dominated professions, it is usually the most conservative ones that are responsible for the highest achievements, whereas the bulk of the undesirable slop that is being produced is made by leftists.
>>216929162Are you retarded?
>>216929162That feminist that squats over canvases and blasts period blood into "paintings" is an intellectual to you people?
>>216929140>Right wingers generally are more intellectualRight wingers go for safe career paths that are true and tested. Like STEM, finace or trades, rigid structures, little room for creative exploration of the rules. Read the book, repeat, do not stray from the narrow path.Left wingers create the new fields, not only in art but in just about everything, takes more risks with their career choices and entrepreneurial endeavors. Left wingers start companies and right wingers consequently run them when they start yielding steady results or turn into money making machines and all the left wingers have fucked off doing something else.
>>216929256Jasmine Alicia Carter is one of the greatest intellectual minds we leftists have ever produced. You can't fake that level of intelligence=creativity.
>>216929267Such as?
>>216927670wtf does that have to do nothing moron? Literally every artist who ever lived before 10 years ago is a "nazi" according to deranged fucktards like you and discrod troon cult
>>216926761Hollywood is full of stealth conservatives, dummy
>>216929191>I am a bisexual pedophile like famed right-wing intellectual Jeffrey Epstein!Okay, anon.>>216929232No, I am not Brazilian.>>216929256The NPC that is a soulless bug incapable of free thought is an intellectual to you people?
>>216929267This feels like massive "I owe $400,000 in student loans for my African American Studies degree" levels of cope.Engineers are incredibly creative in their own fields. They wouldn't be able to succeed if they weren't. Architecture, Aerospace, Civil Engineers, heck even some manufacturing require more than just 'read the book'. Not every sector of STEM is comp-sci.Either you're bitter working retail or you're a middle management type who hates WFH because it invalidates your entire existence.
>>216927943this "we are the science team" meme is so funny by modern standards. 10 years ago liberals maybe, but all those people are you know ..... naizs now. You people are so deranged and low IQ you have never taken science course in your life and just like entertainment have decimated the sciences. You morons are flat earth tier droolers
>>216929140baby name generator?defi token exchange?what sort of linkfarm chicanery is this?
>>216929309she's not wrong, left wingers really do start up companies. just look up any successful VC firm in the past few years as far as her claim on left wingers starting companies.
>>216926761Because of they have lower IQs on average
>>216926761Conservatives can create art, it's contrarian edgelord alt-right losers who can't make anything
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>>216929367The data was drawn directly from the FEC.
>>216929386Alright.https://www.google.com/search?q=biggest+venture+capital+firmsSays #1 is AndreesenHorowitz.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_HorowitzFounder is Marc Andreessenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Andreessen>In July 2024, Andreessen announced he would donate to super PACs that support Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign.[113] During the first half of 2025, Andreessen donated $3 million to MAGA Inc., a super PAC that supports Donald Trump.[114]>Andreessen is a mega-donor to the political superPAC and pro-cryptocurrency advocacy group Fairshake.[115] Andreessen came out against president Joe Biden's re-election bid, saying he feared higher taxes on billionaires and stricter regulations on industries he invests in (cryptocurrency and AI).[115] On Joe Rogan's podcast in November 2024, Andreessen claimed that some cryptocurrency users have been unfairly debanked.[116]Hmm.
>>216929360>This feels like massive "projection of my own insecurities"As opposed to the entire post I was replying to which pretty much boils down to>CONSERVATIVES SMART>LIBERAL WHINY AND EMOTIONAL>Engineers are incredibly creative in their own fields.Well then you dont understand the difference between creativity and applying knowledge and experience to solve a problem.
>>216929360>Engineers are incredibly creative in their own fields. >Not every sector of STEM is comp-sci.You're either a dimwit backseat expert or an Indian sweatshop employee who cuts corners and makes Boeing planes crash. Likely both, based on your conservative wisdom.CS is the most creative of these fields by far because it's a fast moving one where standards are less scrutinised.
>>216928963Most of those people would hate each other
>>216926761>say conservatives can't create art>proceeds to call everything made before the 80's as right wingLeftists stopped making sense to me years ago.
>>216929451So, the #1 venture capital firm was founded by a conservative. The #2, Sequioa was founded by a conservative. The #3 Accel was made rich by an independent, who just got lucky and invested in Facebook early.Not seeing these super leftists who are forward thinking and investing in the future. They must be out in the parking lot smashing Teslas.
>>216929464>Well then you dont understand the difference between creativity and applying knowledge and experience to solve a problem.Except artists require knowledge and experience to apply their creativity, and engineers require creativity to solve a problem that exists beyond the current knowledge base. I think the issue is you've been exposed to way more mediocre STEM majors (likely comp sci if I had to guess) than you have shitty artists. Which is fair because there's always work for someone in STEM under someone who is creative and imaginative enough to be the head of a team, but rarely much work for an artist who isn't very good at their job.
Scorcese.
>>216929026There's like 2000 years worth of Christian art, poetry, music, architecture, etc. Most of the art ever created in the West would be conservative by your standards
>>216929479>CS is the most creative of these fieldsI needed a good laugh tonight. What are they creative at, shitty optimization and making everything look like garbage on anything but an iphone?
>>216929544>>proceeds to call everything made before the 80's as right wingnobody has ever said this, schizosome of the most left wing movies ever were made before the 80s, like spartacus
>>216929576Venture capital firms by nature dont start companies, they fund either existing companies or people who wants to start one who either have a business proposal or a promising product. You know, the creatives that made something new worth investing money into.I know you're a little dense but try to keep up
>>216926761they often do
>>216929596They're liberal for the purposes of winning this argument, but backwards gullible conservatives when them being on my side ceases to be useful.
>>216929576>sure we don't have any artists>but hey, have you seen our corporate vultures?>they can strip the intestinal value from a roadkill in mere seconds
>>216928514the nigguraths don't like conservative people
>>216929598If you need a great laugh, look in the mirror.>shitty optimizationFor what? Your bing bing wahoo? Your gooning device? They are of no importance. Put the video games and porn down. Go be a man instead.
>>216929618>"look up any successful VC firms as proof that leftists are creating new career paths and endeavors!">they're all conservatives and independents>"omg why are you looking up VC firms, who cares about them!"I don't know why I engage with you imbecilic leftists. What did I think was going to happen?
>>216928530vile rodent: it's just paranoia, you're not being punched in the back of the head while some nigguraths gangrape your gf/wife/daughter
>>216929648>no counterargument, just insults. Now I know you smell like curry.
>>216929284that isn't a creative project, she's literally redrawing existing material. not her creation
>>216929321This.>why don't I see any conservatives in an industry that has routinely blacklisted conservatives for decades? I guess they just can't compete, which somehow supports my belief that conservatism is bad
So that Rocky movie where he fights the soviet boxer, are you telling me Sylvester Stallone wanted the Soviet Union boxer to win for international communism?He didn't want to conserve American values with his symbolic victory? I guess I'm lacking media literacy
>>216929342epstein an intellectual and right wing? hes a pedo jew trafficking pimp...
>>216929650a venture capital firm is an investment entity. It doesnt start shit, it doesnt create shit, it buys shit and expects a return on their investment.What part of that dont you understand?
>>216929723Epstein is just like Weinstein A conservative republican
>>216929662>ignores my counterargument, tells me what his room smells likeWhy are you "people" like this? Nobody cares about the optimization of your video games and porn. Seriously, grow up, Rakesh.>>216929722Stallone is a useful idiot so your media literacy is actually quite excellent. Dare I say, the best in this thread.
>>216929736I understand you think start up incubators don't actually do anything What about baby incubators? Like at the hospital?
>>216929736The part where you faggots were insisting that left wingers start up companies and to look up VC firms in the past few years as evidence. Then when it turned out they were all conservatives, the goalposts did their usual leftist dance and we pretend like the comment I was responding to is invisible now.
>>216929603Charlton Heston was pretty right wing.
>>216929755He never even said video games and porn. Look at a website 10 years ago vs now. Everything is becoming big and blocky like it's made for a 4 year old using a leapfrog. You're the one who brought up gooning and video games and started hurling insults like an Indian nigger.
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>>216926761The core principle of conservatism is to retard societal change, so ... that isn't exactly a chartered course to the avant-garde. But they are available for any inquisitions and purges of those that do make the art.
>>216929761>>216929768You guys went and found the equivelant of "what are the 15 largest patreons of the arts" and went "see, they're all conservative".
John FordJohn CarpenterFrank CapraAnd any other director who fought in WW2 are conservative.
because they're soulless. the endless cope in this thread is hilarious btw.
>>216929807>Heston opposed the Vietnam War during its course (though he changed his opinion in the years following the war)Either extremely stupid to the point of impressiveness, or an obvious Communist agent.>>216929846>He never even said video games and porn.This is 4chan.org. Us high IQ individuals comprehend environmental context. >Everything is becoming big and blocky like it's made for a 4 year old using a leapfrog.Conservative friendly design. I think it's tolerant and wholesome, but you can continue being an anti-conservative bigot. Conservatives deserve to use and access technology too.>>216929906>John Carpenter>When asked if he considered himself a libertarian-liberal, he simply responded "kinda".[111] He has been an outspoken critic of Donald Trump and has blamed modern problems in the United States on unrestrained capitalism.[112]Another Communist agent. Stop trolling.
>>216929894>you did exactly what you were challenged to do and the results ended up being the opposite of what I thought they'd be>instead of owning it, I'd prefer to reframe the conversation and tell you why you proving my own standard wrong means nothingleftism.png
>>216926761>>216927458John Ford was a conservative, and is considered one of the greatest directors.
>>216929906who who & doesn't check out.
>>216929933>Conservative friendly design.So high IQ comp sci totally non Indian posters solution is "just make everything bigger"Fuck AI cannot replace you street shutters fast enough
>>216929978>who>whoYou know, that guy, who did the thing, come on man.
>>216928491I know history from books. You know history from TV. The irony is palpable. The original word, Liberal, was changed by western idiots well after the french revolution where the moniker originally came from. Liberals STOLE their entire identity as revolutionaries while totally abandoning everything the original liberals believed in.>>216928504Reddit Spacing:Greetings Newfag. It appears you've made the common newfag mistake of calling something reddlt spacing that isn't. You see, unlike the chans, Reddlt does NOT respect the carriage return. A reddlt poster may include several spaces in their posting but those will be removed by the system auto-format much like blank, leading spaces and special characters have been blocked on the chans. The result, on leddlt, is what's come to be called a "Wall of Text." That's where walls of text come from: Reddlt. So, to be clear I am currently reddlt spacing. A wall of text with no text breaks IS leddlt spacing. This is leddlt spacing. I am still leddlt spacing.I am no longer leddit spacing>Still, also not leddit spacing.So, now, every time some newfag calls someone a leddit spacer for adding carriage returns post this copypasta.
>>216929933Heston supported Nixon and Reagan, opposed affirmative action, and was president of the NRA. Is it stupid to consider that "pretty conservative," or have you pivoted to trolling because making a sincere argument didn't work?
>>216929949>still dont understand the difference between a startup and an investment firm that invests in the startup in it's 5th year of existence.Unless you consider VC's themselves as some creative achievement, which are the result of a bunch of rich people going "lets start a firm where we run our investments as a business"But off the top of my mind. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Henry Ford, Edison
>>216929998oh yeah, that guy. i love him. but i think he might be a space alien. and who knows what political ideology space aliens subscribe to, probably harvesting your parts for flying saucer fuel
>street shuttersEmbarrassing. I shan't reply to Juan directly so as to not further ridicule that poor person of color. Perhaps get AI to proofread your musings first? >>216930013Nobody said he wasn't "pretty conservative". I believe all parties privy to this discussion have well established this man's incredible idiocy; quite a subversive one at that. Reading comprehension is an important skill on a text-heavy forum like 4chan.org.
>>216930112>He made a spelling error!As I said earlier, I appreciate all the laughs you've given me tonight. Slowest horse in the race things he's in first level of stupidity from you.
>>216930112>Nobody said he wasn't "pretty conservative"So what was the point of the first reply in this post: >>216929933?
>>216930172Don't even bother, he's proven time and time again he's fucking retarded.
>>216930157If french is your first language, you're actually doing very well. But you've still got a little work ahead of you if you want to pass for a native speaker and writer.
>>216930080>>216929854
>Slowest horse in the race things he's in first level of stupidity from you.
>>216929174this is chud movie thoughbeit
>>216929596Much of it, being commissioned work.
Too obsessed with "the message" first and the work second
>>216929596>Christianity >right-wing
they're clowns, what can I say?
