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Now that a new Avatar is out and people who have never watched them are inexplicably very mad about them again, a sentiment I keep seeing repeated is that "Despite the franchise making billions of dollars, Avatar has no iconic lines, scenes or characters that have had a lasting cultural impact." Setting aside the fact that saying something like this is a transparent way of coping with the fact that something you don't like has made a lot of money, I would also contend that it's a point in the series' favor.

Think of how many movies you've watched that have some stupid lines that are obviously written to be "quotable" lines they'll put in the trailer and people will regurgitate endlessly for years. Meanwhile Avatar are just written like proper movies. They're not trying to be quotable. They just tell a good story. It's like successful gatekeeping on a massive scale, people watch them, are happy with them, but don't try to hamfistedly force them into the cultural zeitgeist.
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>>216929039
I like Avatar because it uses high quality VFX to build an alien world. That's it. That's the only reason I like it. I had to think about it for a while, and while it doesn't have the qualities other iconic films have, I will never deny that Pandora is the coolest thing ever.
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the marketing for the movies included zero internet astroturf, so the astroturfers tried to astroturf a reason they should be paid to astroturf the movies, only to find out they simply do not matter
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Avatar didn’t generate snarky quotes, memeable dialogue, or ironic fandom. Video essayists conflate that with “no cultural impact.”
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>>216929224
Millennials are so redditbrained it’s disgusting
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Don't care. Is Kiri taking human dick?
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>>216929404
The only one taking human dick here is me
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without google, name 3 characters that arent Jake Sully and Netari or whatever that bitch is called.
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>>216929433
Her name is Netorare. Commit that name to memory. Tell everyone about how much you love Netorare.
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>>216929039
Cry more, shill.
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>>216929433
i asked that my normalfag friends who all just came back from seeing the third one and no one could answer it.
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>>216929535
Doesn't mean much. I bet they also couldn't tell you any character names from Dune. But I could tell you every character name from Dune.
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>>216929564
>I bet they also couldn't tell you any character names from Dune
case in point.
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Movie 1:
>Humans are after rare mineral
>Humans vs Navi war
>Jake goes native
>Calls on Eywa to help
>Animals attack humans and Navi win the war

Movie 2:
>Jake starts a family
>Humans return to colonize the planet and harvest whale goo
>Humans hunt Jake
>Humans take Jakes family hostage to capture Jake
>Someone calls on Eywa and the Humans lose

Movie 3:
>Jake and his family are still hiding from the humans
>Humans want more whale goo and up their efforts to capture Jake
>Human vs Navi war ends with someone calling Eywa for help and animals showing up to kill humans
>Jake and his family live to fight another day

This franchise has no fucking plot and has nowhere to go from here. It's formulaic and pointless.
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>>216929605
The case in point being that the average person is stupid as shit and has no memory for names even if it's a cool fucking name like Duncan Idaho, so "le normies didn't remember le names!!!" isn't the slam dunk you think it is. What you should be asking them is what they remembered about the story, but of course you didn't ask that because that wouldn't serve your narrative.
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>>216929113
THIS
E-cucks are a bunch of fucking leeches an a plight to modern Internet. The more of them become starved and get a real fucking job, the better.
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>>216929634
the average person can name you 20 characters from Stranger Things in a heartbeat
just accept that Avatar is nothing more than "woah, pretty"
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>>216929611
this, the story is lame and keeps repeating itself, the plot is boring and forgetable, the characters are lame.
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>>216930185
Cry louder chud
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>>216930212
I'm not crying, these movies just suck. anyone who has seen them agrees
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>>216930236
Then why do they keep making money?
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>>216929039
The PTB are making up bullshit box office numbers again
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>>216930256
youre right, the MCU is peak cinema of the highest quality
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>>216930256
the numbers are made up, these movies dont make shit otherwise they wouldnt be so forgetable.
its slop
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>>216930313
at least capeshit is somewhat entertaining, not all of it but there are memorable scenes and they got many beloved actors.
nobody really cares about some blue CGI monkey people
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>revenue is how we measure how great a piece of media is
>only my slops count btw, not yours
Have you tried being less miserable and be entertained for once in a while chuds?
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>>216929039
the movie is a great chud repellant and that's all it matters
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>>216930350
the avatar movies are crap and james cameron is a retard. would been best for everyone if he stayed at the bottom of the mariana trench
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"the MCU is peak cinema of the highest quality" - /tv/, 2025
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>>216930402
I'd prefer he lives till 200 years old to see chuds like you cry for as long as you can keklmao
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>>216930350
>>216930449
I thought James Cameron films were inexplicably extremely popular with chuds despite consistently being diametrically opposed to their ideology. I remember how hard Alita got shilled here back in the day.
Let me guess, something based he said went viral and that's why they don't like him anymore. That's always how it is, they make their opinions off youtube shorts.
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>>216930462
Let's be honest here. No one would want to associate with chuds, intentionally or not. Good thing he shook them off
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>>216930479
I agree, they can be hard to filter because they're so desperate for validation and companionship that they will cling for years to people who hate them against all logic, insisting they're secretly on their side somehow. It's actually impressive he found a way to get rid of them.
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>>216930432
are you fucking retarded? like literally on the spectrum? read those anons reply chain again. holy fuck
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>>216929433
Miles Quaritch, Kiri, Miles Quaritch's son Miles (Spider), Tuk, Varang
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>>216930350
>The movie about religion/God being real is chud repellant
lol
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>>216930612
Which one, Abrahamic one?
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>>216930632
Anything is better than a materialist-communist worldview.
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>>216930657
>the main antagonist of Avatar is the capitalist military industrial complex
>mud communism actually
the USSR really did a number of the psyche of Americans huh
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>>216929564
I'll give it a shot with both, as many as I can remember
ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᑕ
>Paul
>Jessica
>Leto
>Thufir
>Yueh
>Gurney
>Duncan
>Liet Kynes
>Mapes
>Stilgar
>Chani
>Vladimir Harkonnen
>Feyd
>Glossu Rabban
>Margot Fenring
>Shaddam IV Corrino
>Irulan
>Piter

Avatar
>Lo'ak
>Jake
>Neytiri
>Tuk
>Kiri
>Neteyam (I think)
>Ronal
>Miles Quaritch
>Lyle Wainfleet
>Varang
>Grace
>Norm
>Spider
>Scoresby
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>>216930536
Hey, you're the one who said it. I'm just quoting what you said
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>>216930671
I didn't make such a point, I simply stated any religion is better than the marxist one.
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>>216930593
you forgot Smeek, Vajana and Glorp Shitto
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>>216929039
Idk, I enjoy the movies. That's all a movie should ever be: entertainment.
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>>216929039
It's like everyone has forgotten how many people wanted to live on Pandora after the first one came out.
Also yeah, people measuring a movies worth by how memeable it is is why we've had so much cape slop over the years.
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>>216929039
The "Avatar has no cultural relevance" meme is a meme.
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>>216930783
I still want to live on Pandora thoughdesu...
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>>216929039
i didnt read your post but Kiri is cute
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>>216930841
Why did Jim have to make Blue Jesus this cute and funny...?
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>>216929433
Tarsem, Mo'at, Prager.
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>>216929039
Oh yeah yeah
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I know three people who want to see the new Avatar movie and all of them are retards. I'm not surprised.
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>>216929433
Neteyam (rip)
Lo’ak
Kirk
Tuk :)
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>>216930841
die pedo
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>>216932762
what did esmeralda vanderflööp mean by this
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Just marathoned Avatar.Fire.and.Ash.2025.1080p.TS.EN-RGB on a Toshiba laptop.
It fucking sucks.
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How are people just now noticing that Avatar is an objectively bad movie carried by the spectacle of CGI and 3D effects?
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>>216932877
>carried by the spectacle of CGI and 3D effects?
But the CGI sucks



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