Blade runner wasn't supposed to be a documentary...
>>216938330Ivanpah opened 8 years before that movie entered production
>>216938330>renewable energy is bad because... it just is ok!
villeneuve is a hack, reddit the director
>>216938461>stealing and hoarding all the sunlight is good because... it just is ok!
>>216938330Didn't they shut those solar plants down? I don't think they were ever profitable
>>216938502>anon doesn't understand how solar panels worksad!
>>216938502This. Literally stealing my sunshine and dreams before they can even land from heaven.
>>216938541>‘World’s largest’ solar plant in Calif closing – $1.6 billion Ivanpah casts a shadow on DOE loans – ‘Federal data concluded the plant killed roughly 6,000 birds a year’
>>216938551There are people in Alaska that need that sun to survive.
>>216938502>>216938551>>216938561The best part is the way it rotisseries passing birds.
>>216938564I don't think the birds mattered that much, if something that expensive doesn't make money eventually it's going to get shut down
>>216938564>killed roughly 6,000 birds a yearHow, cooking them? Is not like they have hundreds of towers
>>216938551>anon thinks they're creating power from nothingThey absorb the sun and turn it into electricity, hence the name (Sol = Sun in Latin), idiot.
>>216938564feds seethed at it frying their robot birds
>>216939066Why would glowies send their surveilance drones to the middle of nowhere retard
>>216938541They shut it down because photovoltaic panels are now cheaper and more profitable than that solar/steam system, and so they are replacing it.
>>216938330>IvanpahIt's slated for decommissioning in 2026 lmaoLike even compared to a normal solar farm it cost literally over a billion more to produce half the power lmfao
>>216939100office employee left the natural migration setting on
>>216938330Those are just mirrors.They're old.They're getting removed next year.They make no sense in Fallout which was 2077 pre apocalypse and nobody cared about solar.They also make no sense in BR because solar photovoltaic power stations and wind farms are more efficient than these thermal mirrors.
>>216938330What happens if a bird flies into the light beam
>>2169385646000? People having outdoor cats dwarf that.
>>216938330Can you concentrate the mirrors somewhere else apart from the tower, like a passing airplane or the ISS?
>"renewable energy is going to be cheaper, more reliable and more carbon neutral">every year every country builds massive new renewable energy projects>prices keep going up>the grid keeps getting more unreliable >carbon emissions keep increasingAny smart guys care to explain
>>216942005Real renewable energy has never been attempted
>>216938564So? My cat kills that many.
This is satanic
>>216939184>>216939276>>216938564>Ivanpah never reached the promised level of solar power but kept its output stable by using backup generators>these generators were so fuel inefficient that Ivanpah ended up emitting MORE carbon than an equivalent sized LNG plant would haveUhh so what was the fucking point
>>216942005I think everyone finally agrees that wind power is a meme; you can expect more wind turbines to come down than be constructed in the coming decadeI expect the same thing to happen to solar at some point
>>216942084It made people feel good about themselves, like they were accomplishing something. In the end, isn't that what really matters?
The only good thing about the Slopocalypse is that suddenly everyone is racing to build nuclear plants againMicrosoft now claims they'll have the world's first fusion plant running their data center in Chelan in 2028, which sure sounds like "fusion is twenty years away" died in a hurry once oligarchs actually needed it for their toys They're already building the fucking thing
>>216942259Building it is one thing; will it work is anotherDid you see the pic in the OP?
>>216942321The thing in OP works, it's just dangerous, overpriced and inefficient
>>216938330THE BEACONS ARE LIT MORDOR CALLS FOR AID
>>216938461This facility is already closed anon
>>216942505Then it doesn't work
Sorry for the le reddit opinion incoming but it really is amazingly jarring to live in a time of such unprecedented technological advancement and such unprecedented bureaucratic idiocy. The things that could actually be accomplished with the right will is unimaginable.
>>216942728It successfully produced a shitload of electricity, by definition it worked
>>216942806If it worked it would still be in operation
>>216938330where do you think they got the imagery for that BR2049 scene you moron
>>216942749sounds like leftshit bullshit to me
Why does Star Trek have solar panels now when one of the most fundamental concepts of the setting is that incredible antimatter reactors are so simple and commonplace that everybody uses them to propel expendable minivans at 50x the speed of light
>>216942829By your logic the Concorde didn't work
>>216942931it didn't work financially
>>216938330>"Attack? No, not attack them. Wipe the slate clean. Make the Mojave like it was meant to be: undisturbed by man. I'll send the Cloud, the Holograms. Bring ruin in my hands until only I stand atop the HELIOS One tower again. I'll scour Hoover Dam with the Cloud, rain its walls with spears from the sun - with an army of Old World ghosts behind me, Holograms all. I'll kill them until it's only me, me alone in a quiet world. In a world that's nothing like what happened at HELIOS One."
>>216942005You're a schizo and your favorite Orange Kike rapes children.
>>216942084amerimutts can't engineer/calculate/build for shit
>>216943526Energy prices go up continuouslyRenewable buildout goes up continuouslyHow the fuck is recognizing the obvious "schizophrenia" or "pedophilia"
>>216943574>Energy prices go up continuouslyYour grids are decrepit 80s shit and you keep piling on data centers and shitcoin farms so tech bros could generate Grok sloppa.In China electricity is free.Amerishit Destruction Trilogy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FM933MTnPs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crtYJ4-9UYQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-rqI5yrpdk
>>216943718and a ching chong bing bong to youespecially since you can't shut the fuck up about America when the same energy shortages are far worse in Britain and Germany
>>216943718I have chinkshill fatigue
>>216938461Solar and wind are a meme until battery tech advances. Nuclear is the only answer but boomers won't allow it because they're evil faustians.
>>216943749>Britain and GermanyApes that keep demolishing their own nuclear power plants? Yeah I don't bring them up for the same reason I don't bring Zambia up.These are not relevant places.>>216943811It's gonna get a lot worse.
>>216943845>Nuclear is the only answer but boomers won't allow it because they're evil faustians.Too fucking expensive
>>216942005western democracies are run by retarded crooks who steal 50% of the budget of anything they do and then fuck up whatever doesn't get crippled by lack of funds through incompetencemeanwhile China builds more renewables every year than the rest of the world combined while westoids seethe because Larry Fink doesn't get a cut
>>216942005China begs to differ
>>216943887France has the cheapest and most reliable energy grid in the developed world because they went all-in on nuclear in the 1960s before everyone chose to make it evil, complicated and expensiveNotably, in spite of being the most nuclear powered country on earth, the worst nuclear disaster they ever suffered was when this guy tried to blow up a nuclear plant with a rocket launcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Nissim
>>216942005Meanwhile in based China
>>216942005China doesn't have these problems. Curious.
>>216944006France has a fuckload of renewable energy too, doesn't it? Those southern plains are ideal for solar.
>>216944006>Nuclear is so good all we have to do is roll back regulations learned from painful lessonsNo thanks. Coal is cheaper and plentiful
>>216944049>France has a fuckload of renewable energy too, doesn't it?No retard
>>216940540cause a billion dollars in damages paid by tax dollars
>>216944049>Shit up the countryside so urban bugmen can feel good about their decadent, electricity-dependent lifestyleFuck that
>>216942084Ivanpah was constructed before scientists hit the next tier of research. It used solar steam instead of photovoltaic
>>21694410027% is actually a lot
Here's how you do it. Kneel third-worlders.
>>216944112Because we all know there is no need for electricity outside of Paris.
>>216944132Don't take credit for dams especially when environmentalists hate them
>>216938564>China: We make new bridge, it go through two mountains, we pave over 12 villages to make it, 8000 workers are still missing. Time now. >America: BROOO WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN OUR POWERPLANTS SOME BIRDS DIED BROO
>>216943718I scrolled through this guy's channel out of curiosity and he claims that China is already beating SpaceX and has more advanced aircraft carriers so I'm safely discarding his opinions on everything
>>216944180Cities consume the lion's share of electricity in any country
>>216944149>Unspecified Fossil Fuels 1.3%
>>216944149you should check Norway.
>>216944392Yesh I wonder why that is Einstein. And where do you think the majority of a country's GDP is generated?
>>216944474>muh GDPIt's so funny to me how much more valuable numbers being moved around on charts, often based on nothing but the imagination of the liar fabricating them, are than farms/mines/factories/etc.
>>216944445Ok let's see Denmark's card
>>216944383ScamX will be relevant when it makes its own space station. Until then? It's just Starlink atmospheric bloat and exploding Starships grift front. Go scam more tax goycattle by fucking over NASA/Artemis and patching up the Cyberflop hole.
>>216944149>less than half of population of Shanghai >tiny frozen shithole without industries Go compose another schlager than back to your mosque, Sven.
>>216943845>Solar and wind are a meme until battery tech advances. Meme answer >Nuclear is the only answer but boomers won't allow it because they're evil faustians.Yet they will allow more oil and coal plants, why is that?
>>216945651>tiny frozen shithole without industriesFrozen? Not thanks to global warming and even then heat production is separated from power production. Also we do have industry
>>216943749>energy shortages are far worse in Britain and GermanyBecause instead of buying cheap Putler gas they know buy that same Putler gas but it's no longer cheap because it now goes through India first. Enriching TWO enemy nations instead of one.Euros are not serious creatures.
>>216938461All the mirrors end up degrading and trashed.
>>216938330I wanna live in western nevada (south eastern california) where it's 140 degrees and looks really pretty look at that nice desert
>>216938541>>216938564All solar and wind energy is a scam.
>>216939066lol>>216939190LOL>>216939100idk why would u
>>216940591concentrated to an area the size of a small neighborhood? 6,000 birds?
>>216942005But the people who owned the solar and wind bullshit became even richer!
>>216942899they gotta insert propaganda
>>216943718Ironically this matches the graph of how much I get my dick sucked by desperate whores by country.
>>216944327That wasn't a real power plant it was just a scam some billionaires did for fun
>>216942005>prices keep going Prices for everything is going up, so imagine how much more expensive it would have been if you didn't go green. >the grid keeps getting more unreliableGovernment has been slacking on maintaining and upgrading the grid>carbon emissions keep increasingNot because of green energy
>>216944474Politicians funneling money from America apparently
>>216945550Why do we need a space station again?
>>216945867>mirrors in a dusty sandy desert with dust storms
>>216946126lol
>>216944149>t. literal third worlder
>>216946218Anon wanted answers, I provided now feel free to rebuke them with facts and logic.
>>216945895based luddite
>>216942005it's all a scam. people get suckered into a cult belief system when they're completely ungrounded in reality. meanwhile the business guys say "oh good we get to make extra money on continually re-pouring concrete because it's for 'green energy'". All the material production for materially unsustainable wind and solar produce more waste and consume more than they offset.
>>216946319>>216946351dumb fag
>>216942259>They're already building the fucking thingThat's obviously an AI generated image. I can even see the grok watermark, you lying jeet.
>>216946414I just wish we could build more new coal plants in the US>We have centuries worth of it>It's cheap>Infrastructure to transport it from mine to plant already exists>Emissions are scrubbed hard>Works 24/7Renewables will never be the definitive answer to growing electrical demand but cultists only know that they should scream and shout for them
Renewables are great and exciting technology I just wish we had focused more on nuclear energy when we still had a chanceIt's sad because anti-nuclear environmentalists deserve to suffer for what they did but they never will, because they're senile now and will never take responsibility or feel any guilt over their livesThey will never admit they were stupid dupes who shilled for coal Worthless low IQ anti-science hysterical scum, may God punish them
>>216947729Coal is what kept electrical prices cheap for so long. You should be praising it, but your cult told you not to
>>216947805Coal enabled the industrial revolution and also the unprecedented prosperity we saw in the West during the 20th century, that doesn't mean we should be using it indefinitely
>>216938330Wait until they diversity hire colonists for other worlds. That's when the real comedy will begin.Imagine the liveleak gore of some dumb nigger opening a hatch and venting an entire colony.
>>216947872>that doesn't mean we should be using it indefinitelyBecause your cult told you so, right?
>>216942749My solution to incompetent bureaucracy? Hm...Giving the government more money should fix it!This time, for sure.
>>216938330I see that shit every time I go to Vegas
>>216947911No because it is a leading cause for anthropogenic climate change which will make the world a terrible place to live in for everyone If you thought the 2015 migrant crisis was bad just wait, it's going to be so much worse when the third world swarms into north america, australia and europe
>>216948008>My cult didn't tell me think that>Here's what my cult says. The science is settled!
>>216938330Why does renewable energy make chuds wet their knickers?
>>216939100idk ask them, it's their birds being roasted
>>216948378Because it's not "renewable." The industrial waste and environmental impact from the creation of these, from dams to wind generators to solar panels, are far worse (somehow) than just mining coal, and a lot of it has to do with battery technology and transfer of energy. Lithium mining is insanely destructive, and the loss of energy during transportation from a renewable farm makes almost all of them non-viable. This is not to say the mining of coal is the solution - the solution is nuclear and always has been.
>>216948378probably because it isn’t renewable and it isn’t energy. hard to say since no one knows what that word means
>the solution is nuclear and always has been.>t. reddit
>>216948463The best part about nuclear is the fact the “dangers” aren’t what’s stopping it, it’s the astronomical costs of transmission infrastructure necessary to handle nuclear power.
>>216948553>>the solution is nuclear and always has been.>>t. reddit>t. tranny
>>216938461>is bad becausetoo many mirrors make Greta cry
>>216938330>NOO YOU CAN'T HARVEST ALL THIS FREE ENERGY RAINING DOWN ON THIS OTHERWISE UNINHABITABLE DESERT Funny how leftistfags thought renewable, sustainable energy was the future until Elon Musk became associated with it. KYS
>>216938461>mining for solar panel resources is extremely toxic>panels break down and release toxins into the environment>require a massive fossil fuel industry to transport and install>a surprising number of people die installing them
>>216949482>Power production ends when the sun setsYou can't make this shit up
>>216943887Only up front. Taking lifetime costs into account it's one of the cheapest.
>>216942005t.retarded anon unaware the trump admin canceled a bunch of wind/solar projects and has been stalling approving any more. also unaware of how AI data centers are sucking up huge amounts of electricity in certain states without a corresponding increase in production leading to price spikescarbon emissions have stagnated or even modestly declined in the US over the past 20 years
>>216938330You told us this already. Several times.https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/UyTuhzNNMjVxvYMUU_K2Mw/
>>216949697>trump admin canceled a bunch of wind/solar projects and has been stalling approving any moreNice, we can get actual power plants that work when the wind isn't blowing or the sun isn't shining and won't be destroyed by a hail storm
>>216949482Those aren't solar panels. They are just mirrors, that focus the sun onto a molten salt pile for heat production.
