Steals a married woman, betrays the agreement of a duel, gets his city in a war, gets his brother killed, gets everybody killed or enslaved, and then he runs away.
>>216941558wow you understood the moral of the story, fascinating
>>216941558babby's first greek tragedy
>>216941558>paris(character) a shit>paris(city) a shitholepottery
>>216941558He was fucked the moment he was chosen to decide who is prettier from Aphrodite or Athena
>>216941558>>216941628>>216941649It was Helen's fault because of hypergamy.
>>216941558One of the things I really like about the Illiad is that it underlines how radically different ancient people were than modern people.Today, this would be a star-crossed lovers story and you would have to strain yourself to understand how exactly Paris was in the wrong, but in the actual story it's unambiguous that Paris was essentially pushed into the wrong by Aphrodite herself, meaning that the Gods are LITERALLY the villains of the story.This is why Plato (via Socrates) basically said Homer was evil and the Illiad should be banned, because it basically teaches you that there's no divine virtue, and thus that any sort of psychotic behavior is permissible.
>>216941903>gods are literally the villainsNo they’re not
>>216941945they literally are especially the females
>>216942022They’re literally not and I’m a bit embarrassed you’ve not realised it
>>216941558Helen was promised to him by Aphrodite 6000 year ago
>>216941628thats not the moral thats the observationbut really -whats the moral ? what were the greeks trying to convey/ dont follow youre desires? leave me alone im drunk
>>216942067forgot pic
>>216941558That sounds pretty based to me
>>216941628thas not a "moral of the story"
>>216942022>especially the femalesThat's a good lesson
>>216941775>>216941628>>216941558It was literally Aphrodite's fault thougheverbeit. Also, the entire piece is amoral.
>>216941903Capricious gods are not evil gods Abrahambrain (not that the Abrahamic god hasn't wiped out almost all humanity before, and threatened to do so multiple times)
>>216941903>Today, this would be a star-crossed lovers story and you would have to strain yourself to understand how exactly Paris was in the wrongearly modern age e.g Romeo and Juliet. today it would be about racism(slavery, colonialism) and misogyny >This is why Plato (via Socrates) basically said Homer was evil and the Illiad should be banned, because it basically teaches you that there's no divine virtue, and thus that any sort of psychotic behavior is permissible.yeah thats kind of how all the greek myths play out. i think its more following man's hubris as in your rise de to your own power/skill ect and then fall due to your own arrogance. its why you have 'memento mori' to bring the ego back into check or in Christendom the personal relationship with Christ within ourselves and confession
>>216942080Moral of the story - doesn’t matter what you do, whoever has Gods on their side wins. Trojans only start winning because Hera starts fucking Zeus’ brains out. The Greeks win because the Gods trick Hector to go outside the wall
>>216942116Beware of Greeks bearing gifts
>>216942194kek thats from the roman propaganda piece
>>216942230Romes are true sons of Troy n such
>>216942134Aphrodite was just doing what vain women do. It was actually Eris that caused everything when she created and threw the golden apple into the party she hadn't been invited to.
>>216941903>Gods are villainsCorrection, the 3 goddesses and Paris were the villains. The 3 for trying to bribe him and him for accepting the bribe. Had he judged fairly none of that ship would had happen.
>>216942276Wait I thought French were the true sons of Troy, Paris and such
>>216942303The other 2 would have been mad no matter the outcome.That's why Zeus refuses to be the judge in the first place.Point is that greeks gods have human flaws, are petty, jealous and vindicative.
>Agamemnon takes your girl>refuse to play until he gives her back>Patroklos dies and ruins your armour>demand from demigod mummy to make you a new very shiny armour>wear it, join in and one shot everyone what the fuck was his problem?
>>216942408he was a seething fag. fuck him and his stupid plot armor
>>216942364>Paris is named after the Parisii tribe>The exact meaning of "Parisii" is debated. Some theories suggest it may derive from a Celtic root meaning "boat," possibly linked to the riverine culture of the tribe. Others propose it relates to the word for "swamp," reflecting the geographical features of the area.thanks ai-chan
>>216942551It makes more sense to be the french as both French and Trojans had an extremely good defense apart from that one small detail where their enemies outsmarted them. Trojans: Wooden horseFrench: Belgium