Now that MTV is ending in Europe and will probably end in the US soon: Who killed MTV?>the internet, duuuuuhClearly a factor, but MTV already lost a LOT of relevancy by the time VEVO and such debuted and before television in general took a nosedive.
>>216943939What do you really want?You don't care about whatever you typed.You just wanted to post pictures of her.Tell us.
>turn on MTV in 1996, see thisWhat do?
For a network that claimed to know what teens-20s were into, it was stupid of MTV to not buy VEVO or put music videos on Youtube themselves. Just like Blockbuster losing to Netflix
>>216944091Never “got” this song t b h.
>>216943939I think of the same thing every time I see Swift and the other thread got deleted so I’ll just ask again: How do I get a rich girlfriend? Note: I’m VERY handsome and funny, but I simply never meet rich women. Rich gay dudes seek me out all the time but I’m not interested in them.
>>216944390>I’m VERY handsome and funny
>>216943939Many years ago I saw a clip on MTV of their show "I Want a Famous Face" featuring two twin brothers who got surgery to look more like Brad Pitt. I've never been able to find a clip from that episode (let alone the full episode) again, although you can easily find promotional pics of the episode. Does anyone know what happened to these guys?
>>216944091This sucks, change it.
>>216945259Change it
Kanye first interrupted the EMAs in 2006. Nobody remembers thishttps://youtu.be/QTJxj7a9-DA
>>216944262Fascinatingly mismanaged brand. They claimed teens didn't watch music videos but offshoots and sister networks continued to thrive and expand globally. Music videos even survived the death of cable TV. Yet they insisted on reality tv trash. If I'd venture a guess, the jews in charge of the network never added fresh blood, aged out of touch with their demographic, and pursued cheaper to produce but more profitable ventures that didn't require paying music licensing fees.The whole network pretty much was telling teens what was cool.
>>216945806I miss Kanye.
>>216945980>teens didn't watch music videosI am not sure what years you mean but for a long time this was true. It wasnt until probably the advent of smart phones and the relative ease of internet access in the early 2010s that changed this.Broadband was becoming common too so no longer limited internet
>>216943939>MTV>"Internet killed the video star..."
Can someone explain why some artists (o technically their labels I guess) don’t put all their music videos on their official channels? It’s weird when they have a bunch of official uploads but then their biggest hit is missing.
>>216943939>MTV already lost a LOT of relevancy by the time VEVO and such debutedThe executives knew a long time before Youtube that music videos were going to be on the internet and there was nothing they could do about it so it was just a matter of time. They pivoted to reality TV for a decade to keep the ship going but that also wasn't going to be sustainable either.
>>216944262Vevo is owned by the labels themselves. Why would they use a middle-man to upload videos when Youtube already does so and it's the easiest thing ever? Having an MTV channel isn't going to do anything, especially with younger people.
I love Taylor Swift
Reality TV killed it. Jersey Shore and The Hills were big shift shows. And then Ridiculousness came around and completely killed the channel.
>>216943939Does Euro MTV host Eurovision? If so, it probably got killed by all those countries refusing to participate
>>216947752>Does Euro MTV host Eurovision? No, Eurovision is its own organization. The MTV Eurovision channel is a thing, but that’s some licensing agreement AFAIK. The end of MTV Europe is the result of it just having zero audience at this point.
>>216943939It stopped being a music channel and started being a loser reality show with trash human beings. >>216944289It retarded effiminate girly pop. There's nothign to get. You just sing along to the retarded lyrics and vibe to the sound. That's what it's for.It's total ass as a song but it gets the panties dropped.
>>216943939Internet. Kids had access to a whole world of music outside of a few fanzines and word of mouth mixtapes. MP3s took a few years to come along but the communications tool spurred a shitload of tapes and merch being sold peer to peer through the mail bypassing labels and catalogs
>got captured by leftists woke retards early on>concentrated on reality TV shit instead of music (how original)>switched to pay TV in European countries (that nobody paid for)>no relevancy on the internetIt was dead for a long time really
>>216947477MTV/Viacom could’ve been part of the Vevo partnership, it's not really different from their relationship with artists and labels in the 80s and 90s. Instead they doubled down on cable and reality TV, oblivious to younger generations using the internet for everything
>>216947021Growing up during that era and having siblings what actually ended up happening is every kid had a tv in their room or one in the house and they'd put it on as background noise while doing homework or other stuff. MTV was pretty aggressive about connecting kids to the internet through myspace and AIM and their website forums. But all that shit obviously got phased out with subsequent rebrandings because they were dumb and didn't care
>>216945980Viacom is a case study in hitting really big once in a while and then completely dropping the ball. Spongebob, MTV, Beavis and Butthead, Avatar: TLA...now name literally anything else that made them any money.
>>216943939Oink oink oink SOOOOOIEEE
>>216943939>Who killed MTV?The idea of broadcasting music videos is long obsolete and was foolish anyway. Broadcast radio is practically dead as well with many FM stations switching to all talk. Who cares ? Its about time anyway.
>>216948171I think I misunderstood the original post. I thought it means music vids on the internet.Kids still watched music vids on TV like the box which like you said would be dumped on the TV as background noise.
I dispute that YouTube magically made the business model obsoleteMTV invented the parasocial eceleb bullshit. There would have been a market if they continued to hire gay ass "personalities" to curate and present music videos. Zoomers love that shit. The top Twitch streamers would suck a fucking dick for the right to just play random pop music.
>>216948145why would labels partner with MTV and give them money? What value would they be giving? Youtube allows you to upload videos easily and they offer rigorous copyright protection where your videos wont' be available anywhere else so MTV offers nothing.
>>216948312What do you think DJs did? They even took phonecalls.
>>216948342That anon wasn't talking in a hypothetical, MTV had an opportunity to join the Vevo consortium in 2010 and turned it down for presumably the same reason Blockbuster refused the opportunity to buy the startup Netflix
>>216948312SiriusXM does something watered down to this. They have tik tok radio channels and some other shit and they hire celebs to do shows or theme entire channels (ex. Ozzy's Boneyard) around it.
>>216948241People litterally leave music on playing in the background or occasionally watch videos.Fucks sake video play lists, music networks, and channels that do litle more then show videos on youtube are a thing.MTV fucked up by not rebranding themselves and using their iconography to tap into multiple markets.MTV not having a streaming network that has multiple channels with music to play in the background or have visualizers was the biggest fuck up on earth.
>>216948400well again, I don't see what they would be offering. Youtube was already up and rolling by 2010 so MTV making their own streaming site wasn't going to happen.
>>216948471A video only streaming site that showed the latest stuff and was a way to get in the door for young curated talent WITH genre specific mini-celebs streamers being the VJ and occasioanlly having on musicians and stars?You're saying a streaming platform that was specifically only that wouldn't have seriously bitten into youtubes bottom line when we all know a huge chunk of their business is music uploads? Hell if they had a built in service to buy songs or purchase them by watching ads and ban AI of any kind they would own the market.
>>216948566nobody is going to care about that when you can pick and choose your own songs at will. Maybe a small number of people will like it but not enough for it to be a huge thing.
>>216948675Explain tiktok and streaming music apps. And who says they wouldn't be able to find music on the mtv streaming service?
>>216948471>>216948566>>216948675Something I wanna chime in is that people don't appreciate how fast the rise of tech companies was and how they weren't unassailable gods at the beginning, in fact the more traditional fat cats were20 years ago, Google bought YouTube - not just the music videos or whatever, the whole fucking site, for $1.6 billionAround the same time Viacom bought CBS for $50 billionImagine the kind of world anyone lived in where it was taken very seriously that CBS was thirty times as valuable as YouTube
>>216948763tiktok is for making funny videos and you add music to enhance the quality. Nobody uses tiktok for listening to full songs. Streaming apps let you pick and choose your own songs. I don't even know what you were saying in your previous post because you were typing drivel and missing words.
>>216948789the thing is nobody knows if Youtube is profitable or not. Amazon bought twitch for roughly 1 billion a long time ago and the CEO says it hasn't made profit yet either.
>>216948897>CEO says it hasn't made profit yet either.he's grasslighting everyone
>>216948965I doubt it. It's one of the worst run companies ever and likely bloated to the max with blue-haired staff who do nothing all day.
>>216943939MTV has the same problem that all cable TV has. My parents have YoutubeTV despite barely watching it because most of the cable channels are just 24 hour content loops of a single show. When it's not Diners Drive-ins and Dives that's playing for 24 hours straight they're playing Cake Wars or some other gay reality show for 24 hours straight.MTV is in an even worse place because there's nothing about them that makes them special anymore now that music videos don't matter. If you look at their programming for tomorrow, they're playing Ridiculousness from 1200a-700a, and then it's 20-30 year old movies until 1159a and they repeat the formula the following day.Channel companies do this shit because since they make money off advertising it's in their best interests to have as many channels as possible showing the cheapest licensed slop they can find and with DVR people don't have to watch the gay fucking commercials anymore.
>>216949441*1159p
>>216943994This. Fuck Swiftieturds.
>>216949480>>216943994>brownoids seething because they are subjected to a white woman
>>216949527Go buy 10 more copies of the 64th version of her same latest album, homosexual Pajeet.
Did anyone actually like any of the shitty reality shows they put out in the 2010s because all i remember was people saying they were the downfall of western civilization.
>>216943939MTV killed MTV.It started as a very simple, but appealing concept. It was a TV channel dedicated to music and showing music videos specifically. People might not remember, but Beavis and Butthead were primarily two cartoon dudes who sat on a couch and did commentary on music videos as their primary schtick, so even IT was based around fucking music and music videos.But then they dropped all that to focus on celebrity garbage and shit like reality TV shows. But now you can get all that and ten times more and better on the internet, so MTV is completely obsolete in that regard. I'm honestly shocked it managed to last this long.The irony is that I think MTV would have fared better in the age of the Internet if it had stuck to its original concept. Show a curated rotation of music videos, peppered with occasional shows about music. That's the exact sort of thing tons of people would just leave on their TVs even now.
>>216949902w*men
>>216943939Laziness and a single fucking Pole.
>>216948471Beat google to the chase and buy Youtube themselves.
>>216950464All Viacom/Paramount channels eventually turn to shit and then shit themselves out, anyone remember when Comedy Central had a shitload of original content? See what they are airing now, same with MTV.
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>>216943939>Who killed MTVThe owners obsessed with the fucking reality shows
