>is apparently some billions-year-old ancient cosmic entity with the ability to traverse entire universes >spends his short time awake in some backwater village preying on random children while larping as a circus clownIs Stephen King a based retard?
>>216948487Stephen is a pedo.
He is trapped on earth, unable to leave.It also does mention in the tv show that the meteor he came in, the indians created a barrier so he could not escape
Something about space magic rock trapping him in a small area. Why does it only become active once every 30 years though
He was trapped in the area by le noble indians (who also decided to live there with him instead of fucking off) by his own comet? Like if I crashed my car into a million pieces and they buried a few pieces so now I can't leave even though I just used it to get there. idk don't think about it too hard
>>216948487But seriously, why did they remove the orgy scene?
>>216948487>Thinking theres any difference between being in some backwater village or an advanced alien civilization from the viewpoint of a billion year old beingLow IQ post anon
>>216948588QRD/
>>216948588There is over 20 hours of cut footage just of that scene. The boys kept messing up right at the end and they had to film it over and over for weeks.
>>216948631Not an orgy, in the book all the boys just ran a train on Beverly after they were leaving the sewer.
>>216948642You're more right than you realize. When those children grow up and inevitably become crazed drug addicts like every child star, we'll know it's because of all the Hollyweird rape and sexual abuse.
>>216948631See >>216948513
>>216948487Pennywise seemed kind of based in Welcome to Derry. I would love to see some crossover where Pennywise has to team up with Avengers to save Earth from some other cosmic entity that might deprive him of his source of food and cracks his signature jokes during the adventure
>>216948487it's a jewish metaphor for jews preying on human children written by a jew
>>216948724they had to get it on. it was the only way
>>216948724HOT
>>216949017Stephen King's universe basically operates like a comic book universe already (Carrie, his first published book, was admittedly inspired by superhero comics) so something like that could easily be done with his own characters. You can get around the 30-year hibernation by just having the team-up take place in a parallel version of the main King-verse like Dark Tower.So who should be on the Crack-vengers and who should they be fighting? I say have the government round up all the spooky superpowered kids, get the magical negroes to train them, and make them fight ayy lmaos.
>>216948487Sounds like YHWH
>>216948487>is apparently some billions-year-old ancient cosmic entity with the ability to traverse entire universes I don't know how many times King had to make it clear to you: IT IS A FUCKING SPIDER! It's like you're getting mad about the spider hiding in your garage because all it does is hang out in its web preying on flies. It's a weak creature from ONE other dimension that got trapped in ours. It's not billions of years old, it's not God, it's not going through infinite universes or whatever other stupid shit headcanons you want to make up to make it seem like the most powerful fictional creature ever. It hides, preys on young vulnerable humans, tries to stay out of sight of adults and make them forget since it's so weak, they are a threat to it. Pay attention instead of looking at tiktok.
>>216948528>>216948545>>216948578Why in the everloving fuck would they TRAP a cosmic entity on EARTH? Those dumb shits deserved the blanket genocide.
>>216948487He's bound to Derry because the comet shards that were his original prison, he sleeps all the time so he doesn't exhaust his food supply and starve. He wouldn't sleep at all and would just gorge on the whole world if he was set free.
is it gay if i want IT to suck my cock and let me splooge all over his sharp teeth?
>>216949515They trapped it in a small forest nobody lived in so it couldn't reach their village. Then the white man built their own town inside that trap because they weren't gonna listen to no injun about where is or is not a good spot to build a town.
>>216948487What did Pennywise eat in the millions of years before sentient creatures capable of actual complex fear emotions even existed?
>>216948487>Is Stephen King a basedno>retard?yes
>>216948528That lore is incredibly stupidIn the show he can get within a few feet of the magic rocks, but somehow 13 spread in a miles-wide circle can contain him?Also, he was in the comet, so it's not like contact kills him, so why do the stones have an AoE deterrent effect on him?zero effort was put into this show's loreit feels like a screenwriter made a script about >muh black experience, but the executives knew that wouldn't sell so they wrote a pennywise plot into the show.
>>216948588honestly how do they justify making movie and tv series about this book knowing about the contents of the book? why hasn't it been cancelled by the internet?
>>216948545He's a snoozemaxxer.
>>216950190What part of Hollywood is run by pedophiles and gangsters don't you understand?
>>216950190Stop being anti semite
>>216949515It's not a cosmic entity. It's just a creature from the mist dimension.
>>216949590They decided to move far the fuck away from the forest and not right next to it, right? So their kids playing in the woods didn't accidentally go in there? or maybe they chase a deer too far in there and don't realize? what do you mean they eat, sleep and shit RIGHT next to it?
>>216950265>>216950285they omitted the orgy part from every adaptation right? what are you whining about
>>216948487No, he's just a retard
>>216948528I haven't watched this show, but clearly falling on a meteor is a reference to a fallen angel. It's a demon but modern people don't believe in that, so they call it an alien.
>>216950343I'm whining about them omitting the orgy part from every adaptation.
>>216950331It's the 1500's and they're living in tipis, as long as they have the invisible fence they're in way less danger of the alien than they are of bears.
>>216950397it was a dragon
>>216950397>I haven't watched this showdon't bother, it's awful
>>216948528>the indians created a barrier so he could not escapelmfao
I. IT IS NOT BILLIONS OF YEARS OLD; NOTHING IS BILLIONS OF YEARS OLD.II. THERE IS ONLY ONE UNIVERSE; THE MEANING IS EVIDENT IN THE WORD ITSELF.III. IT IS A DEMON; LOWLY DEMONS ARE ATTACHEDTO SPECIFIC PLACES; WHERE THAT DEMON FELL, HE WAS THERE TO STAY; IT CANNOT LEAVE.IV. CHILDREN ARE THE PREDILECT PREY OF DEMONS.V. HARLEQUINS, AND CLOWNS, ARE PARODICAL OF DEMONS; DEMONS LOOK AND ACT CLOWNISH; CLOWNS ARE DEMONIC.
>>216950825
>>216950825Prove it in 3 sentences or it's bullshit.
>>216950397IT is an interdimensional being Its actually etheric and doesnt really have a form, the deadlights is closer to its form>>216950037Pretty sure it ties into SKs overall lore for his meta universe that he created.I dont know the ins and outs of it but there is more to IT than in the original book. Mainly elaborated on more in the dark tower novels. I know IT is supposed to have some beef with the great turtle.You could probably read the fandom wiki about it if you wanted to learn more.Ultimately though the gist is he is trapped on earth and trapped in a small area, derry and feeds on fear simply because it tastes nice.
>>216948487Where is the underage orgy?
>>216948487You just don’t get it do you Scotty?
>tfw the interdimensional spider arrives
>>216949017>I would love to see some crossover where Pennywise has to team up with Avengers to save Earth from some other cosmic entityOk, now this would be epic!
>>216951185>>216950594>>216950565Ancient Alien theory. Gods, Angels, Demons are the same thing. They're all extraterrestrial and interdimesnional.
Reminder that Pennywise and Mary Poppins are the same type of entity, but with different appetites.
>>216951232>it's a woman.
>>216950676they pooped on his ship
>>216951501bombadil class
>>216951596wrong indians
>>216951600kek
>I never finished IT. I heard there was some disgusting child pornography in the last chapters, so I threw it in the trash.
This show had some interesting elements but mostly it just shat the bed
>>216951114Do you remember all the clown sightings in 2016?
>>216949556>>216949515>>216948545>>216948528None of that shit is from the book. It was made up for the show. It basically broke through a cosmic barrier into our universe for some unknown reason. Because he broke through to our reality he became bound by its limitations over time. It slept until people settled on the land and awoke to feast. As time grew on, his pattern of sleep and feasting became more regular entangled with the birth of Derry as a township. He is stuck in Derry because he is Derry. He is the roots of the town. He makes it prosper and thrive through his influence and culling. The sewers are meant to be the metaphorical roots of the town. The problem is that because he feeds in this reality, he develops weaknesses in accordance with it. His 'glammer' for example relies on the mind of the victim and this in turn makes the imagination and fear of children more tasty but also limits his reach. As a werewolf in the Neibolt house, he first becomes aware of blinding pain after beverly shoots the silver at him. He also has a temporal physical form as a spider like creature. When he is defeated, the town tears itself apart in the book in a series of crushing earthquakes. The Ritual of Chud should be mentioned as in the book the children enter his deadlights to an astral plane where they will be lost forever unless they show strength of will and if you attack IT on this plain then you will wound him great enough to make his 'physical' form weaker. He is like Sauron though in that he may develop a physical form but can retreat into shadows until ready to grow more powerful again.
>>216951854that's every king story ever
>>216951913It's "glamour", dumbfuck. Also you didn't explain why Bev wanted to be fucked by six children.
>>216951913This is chapter 21 from the creatures perspective.Before the universe there had been only two things. One was Itself and the other was the Turtle. The Turtle was a stupid old thing that never came out of its shell. It thought that maybe the Turtle was dead, had been dead for the last billion years or so. Even if it wasn’t, it was still a stupid old thing, and even if the Turtle had vomited the universe out whole, that didn’t change the fact of its stupidity.It had come here long after the Turtle withdrew into its shell, here to Earth, and It had discovered a depth of imagination here that was almost new, almost of concern. This quality of imagination made the food very rich. Its teeth rent flesh gone stiff with exotic terrors and voluptuous fears: they dreamed of nightbeasts and moving muds; against their will they contemplated endless gulphs.Upon this rich food It existed in a simple cycle of waking to eat and sleeping to dream. It had created a place in Its own image, and It looked upon this place with favor from the deadlights which were Its eyes. Derry was Its killing-pen, the people of Derry Its sheep. Things had gone on.Then . . . these children.Something new.For the first time in forever.When It had burst up into the house on Neibolt Street, meaning to kill them all, vaguely uneasy that It had not been able to do so already (and surely that unease had been the first new thing), something had happened which was totally unexpected, utterly unthought of, and there had been pain, pain, great roaring pain all through the shape it had taken, and for one moment there had also been fear, because the only thing It had in common with the stupid old Turtle and the cosmology of the macroverse outside the puny egg of this universe was just this: all living things must abide by the laws of the shape they inhabit.
>>216952010For the first time It realized that perhaps Its ability to change Its shapes might work against It as well as for It. There had never been pain before, there had never been fear before, and for a moment It had thought It might die—oh Its head had been filled with a great white silver pain, and it had roared and mewled and bellowed and somehow the children had escaped.But now they were coming. They had entered Its domain under the city, seven foolish children blandering through the darkness without lights or weapons. It would kill them now, surely.It had made a great self-discovery: It did not want change or surprise. It did not want new things, ever. It wanted only to eat and sleep and dream and eat again.Following the pain and that brief bright fear, another new emotion had arisen (as all genuine emotions were new to It, although It was a great mocker of emotions): anger. It would kill the children because they had, by some amazing accident, hurt It. But It would make them suffer first because for one brief moment they had made It fear them.Come to me then, It thought, listening to their approach. Come to me, children, and see how we float down here . . . how we all float.
>>216952050And yet there was a thought that insinuated itself no matter how strongly It tried to push the thought away. It was simply this: if all things flowed from It (as they surely had done since the Turtle sicked up the universe and then fainted inside its shell), how could any creature of this or any other world fool It or hurt It, no matter how briefly or triflingly? How was that possible?And so a last new thing had come to It, this not an emotion but a cold speculation: suppose It had not been alone, as It had always believed?Suppose there was Another?And suppose further that these children were agents of that Other?Suppose . . . suppose . . .It began to tremble.Hate was new. Hurt was new. Being crossed in Its purpose was new. But the most terrible new thing was this fear. Not fear of the children, that had passed, but the fear of not being alone.No. There was no other. Surely there was not. Perhaps because they were children their imaginations had a certain raw power It had briefly underestimated. But now that they were coming, It would let them come. They would come and It would cast them one by one into the macroverse . . . into the deadlights of Its eyes.Yes.When they got here It would cast them, shrieking and insane, into the deadlights.
>>216951983Because of the transition from childhood to adulthood... something something derry library tunnel.... pennywises influence losing power as childhood fears turn into adult ones... drawing the group closer together again after the trauma of defeating IT for the first time... I cant justify his way of doing this to be honest. A kiss would have been enough imo.
>>216951983
>>216952122Just say she was a slut and wanted to fuck becuse she had daddy issues. She behaved like a slut with her husband and again making Bill cheat on his wife. She was a bitch in heat. Ben had to marry her at the end, poor bastard.
>>216951948True, but since this is mostly the show runners creation I wasn't expecting more
>>216949590>They trapped it in a small forestWhy would you say this as if it's a smart thing to doWondering into a forest is like number 2 human primitive desireWondering into your mom ass is number 1retard
Why did Pennywise turn out bad when his brother is good
>>216952010Post the chapter where they do it in the sewers
>>216952359Wandering* esl retard
>>216952505Does the turtle have a name in the Dark Tower cosmology?
>>216952538>thank god they made a spelling mistake, I was wrong and I had nothing else to comeback, phew
>>216952010>>216952050>>216952066This is actually not too badMaybe I should read that book
>>216952523no
>>216952505The brother used up all the good energy in the family. It's been known to happen.
>>216948513Ohhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooooooo!
>>216952629Its a shame the good brother became shell shocked and retreated into the background.
how does It relate to the Library Policeman?
The orgy was beautiful, the junkyard sex scene and the leper sex scene are what's frightening and disturbing and hilarious. The sewer orgy naysayers never reference the other sex scenes because they're posers. How is Stephen King so popular if people are actually assblasted by any of it
>>216951913Didn't the crossing fuck it up too, so it was essentially a shell of it's former self?
Did Maturin specifically create earth turtles to look EXACTLY like him?
>>216948487the "entity" is supposed to be some sorth of cosmic animal or virus that hunts its prey by making them get scared, it doesn't have a conscious or intelligence, everything it says and does is in the imagination of its victims, IT is only doing whatever it takes to hunt
>>216950037they were connected by underground fiber optic cables
>>216952789I would assume so. I prefer to see the King novels as seperate and dont go for this whole multiverse thing but if you think about a character like Flagg who came into our earth in The Stand not fully understanding his purpose or full powers. I think King was very much influenced by LOTR and Sauron or the Black Riders when it comes to this.
The Turtle is literally the Demiurge and far more cruel and vile than IT.IT derives pleasuire from suffering but also eats to surviveThe Turtle created all of existence in our universe and life randomly like a literal fart, then fucked off and left everyone to suffer despite the fact it had power to do otherwiseIf anything IT actually liberates people from the chains of physical existence through the Deadlights and being sent into the macroverse
>>216952892
>>216952505Turtle is stupid
>>216952892Didn't thr Turtle die drowning in its own vomit?
>>216953186nah he peaked out to say hello to bill during his astral fight with IT. just had a tummy ache
>>216952050>>216952066i'm re-reading the book now (first time since high school) and i just passed the part where it attacks mike hanlon as a giant bird and mike clearly injures/scares it off in that sequence, which i believe predates the neibolt house incident by several months. he hides in a pipe and the bird squeezes in behind him so he smokes it in the eye with a piece of tile which bloodies the eye and forces it backwards out of the pipe, after which it doesnt hang around long before disappearing. that was young mike hanlon's first chapter so King may have been a few grams deep when he wrote it and totally forgot
>>216952551Maturin
>>216951185>I know IT is supposed to have some beef with the great turtle.His beef with the Great Turtle is that the turtle can no-diff IT whenever the turtle wants too and this both scares and pisses IT off. He's basically the Cosmic Horror equivalent of a cocky hooligan who can actually get no-diffed by kids if they aren't concerned about himIT is really fucking stupid>>216953186A lot of what IT says and thinks of the Turtle is just mad seething and coping
>>216952600i recommend it, i'd say it's the best of SK's full novels. generally the shorter the better with King, check out "the jaunt"
>>216952944What is a demiurge?Is it an esoteric name for God or for satan or a different religion?
The mist came in from another dimension caused by the secret military experiment. All those people were trapped in the supermarket dying while these kids were trying to kill Pennywise
>>216953478the mist takes place after the 90s judging by the cars. welcome to derry S1 is the 50s
>>216953425It is basically an animal, it doesn't have an imagination, which is why it appears as shit the kids are scared of instead of thinking stuff up itself. It then gets locked into the rules of that thing while it takes the appearance, like a werewolf being weak to silver when logically It could just ignore it.
>>216953471it's some dumb bullshit made up by hipsters who wanted to be Christian but not too Christian
>>216953471One of many attempts by Gnostics to explain things in early Christianity. It got wiped the fuck out early on and is only now in these couple of years seeing a resurgence
>>216950397This. For those of us that read The Holy Bible it’s obvious.
>>216953478The monsters were just 'wise manifesting whatever people trapped in a supermarket imagined could be lurking in the Mist(tm)
>>216953507I liked that stuff. That made IT interesting. The spinoff stuff keeps amplifying Pennywise's power and turning him into like Freddy Krueger where he can do anything with almost no limits except for the stupid meteor fragments
>>216948528The extended lore in the series was retarded.
>>216950190A lot of people pay lip service to caring about child rape and pedophilia just because they know it's "what you're supposed to say."Like when somebody dies on the news, everybody knows you're supposed to say, "Oh my gosh, that's so terrible!"But most people who always say "what you're supposed to say" don't actually care. They're just pretending to be "normal." "Oh, normal people are supposed to be disgusted by pedophilia, so I'll say how disgusting it is, then nobody will realize I'm a fucking sociopath who literally doesn't give a fuck about anything besides myself.The whole "Epstein List" fiasco should have proven to all the people who really do actually care about pedophilia that most people say they care but really don't give a shit AT ALL.
>>216949017Oh get ready for a few more big Doomsday reveal ;)t. Hollywood insider
>>216948487To me it's kind of annoying thst no one really finds out about it and stays pretty much secret. Also the girl who's cool enough to pull her skirt up and moon the camera and show shorts that have it printed on the butt is hot and seems cool
>>216948487It's just King's self insert especially the "preying on children in some backwater town" part
>>216951883Yeah it was spics.
>>216953471It's what the Rosicrucians, formerly the Invisible College, believed that the "God" of our world was. They also believed that Jesus was a part of a part of a part of a part of the REAL God who is a vast infinity of which we were taken from by the Demiurge and split into multiple smaller souls. Some of it is novel, but that fades when you realize the majority of it is midwits trying to molt their religion in the face of early heightened introspection but being incapable of it. It reminds me how all ex-catholics are even weirder than catholics because they don't really stop being a catholic, they just start being a catholic version of something that isn't really catholic.
>>216953557>It got wiped the fuck out early on and is only now in these couple of years seeing a resurgencehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_EcclesiaDid leddit teach you how to talk out of your ass and make vague assumptions? We don't do that here, you can go back. Rosicrucians have been active and prevalent without going anywhere, they were a huge part of the masonic movement towards the west and have never not had an active involvement in the US, and they suck just like other stupid lying jew worshipers. Do yourself a favor and find a religion that teaches you what performative behavior and moral posturing is and how it's used to manipulate.
>>216948487Sounds anti semtic to me anon, do you not like clowns?
>>216948487As a timeless being I would also do some shit like that. Chidaruma from Dorohedoro is the same
>>216952652The villain of that honestly does just feel like King ripping himself off with a "Not-IT."
>>216956992xDDDD
>>216953533yeah! Plato was such a dumb hipster christian
>>216948487Idk man. If I was a interdimensional chad trapped in a small town and my life from here to the end of time was just eating as much kebab with garlic sauce as I want and then napping I'd be pretty happy to just chill where I am.
