I just got back from watching Avatar 3, I didn't go see it sooner because I saw it at one of those screener showings in Feb. My Wife wanted to see it so agreed to go with her. >it was a totally different movieCameron changed everything the one I saw felt like a fever dream version of what I saw before. The one I saw was 5 out of 5, the one I just saw was 3 out of 5. What the fuck? They removed the entire plot about Eywa dying and Pandora being terraformed, so many things that were explained in the one I saw was cut from the movie. Let me give an example>the flux in Fire and Ash just appears>selfridge in Fire and Ash just appearsIN THE ACTUAL MOVIE>Selfridge is introduced as the head of the BRIDGE project and why he's returned>They test fire it at the start it does this CGI of pandora getting sent a giant pulse through it>This giant pulse 'hurts Eywa' this causes the flux we see in the movie>it's the entire reason why everyone needs to get it together and go into action Has Cameron lost his fucking mind? Or just cucked by test audiences?
>>216948562i just saw it and was wondering for a while why there's that huge flux out of a sudden but then decided it's a cartoon basically so who gives a fuck
>>216948562Sounds believable. That weird tornado felt very out of place in the movie. Pandora had magic trees and floating magnetic islands, but it's not a world of sky beam lasers.
>>216948562what happened to the general?
>>216948562>My Wife wanted to see it so agreed to go with her.Why would a woman want to see a fap-bait movie?
>>216948562The flux was never explained in avatar 3 fire and ash. What the fuck was the flux where did it come from? It was never in avatar the way of water? wtf!??
>>216949069The flux is Eywa's "squirt", to put it crudely.
>>216949034Just got archived. Someone needs to make a new one.
>>216949175Can't somebody make a new one and post the link before it gets archived?
>>216949225That should have been done, yes. But anons are lazy it seems.
>>216949175I mean General Ardmore, what happened to her?
>>216949069In the version I saw, it's an 'open wound' caused by the test firing of the BRIDGE weapon (which was totally cut from the final version).
>>216949389She's killed by Quaritch, he also doesn't die
>>216949476
>>216949069>The flux was never explained in avatar 3 fire and ash. What the fuck was the flux where did it come from? It was never in avatar the way of water? wtf!??Agreed, butIt didnt really need it. It's just another "the moon has a shitload of magnetism" effect.Why do the mountains float?Why are there all these circular mountains?Why is there a sudden spout of magnetic force?the movie doesnt explain any of it, but it is consistent in it's "aint gonna explain this shit."
Jim Cameron's obsession with water is getting old. Why the FUCK is your movie called Fire and Ash mostly taking place on an island and in the ocean, which is where the previous movie about water took place?
>>216949542The movies explain all of those though. This flux just appears and no one gives it another thought. They certainly don't explain how dangerous it is, which they seem not to know. Jake, Quaritch, and the General don't seem to recognize that it will suck up metal.
>>216949495I presume he survives since it's teased in the game but I remember her death being from the ship getting sucked in the vortex.
>>216949598>The movies explain all of those though.Yeah - they are all "lots of magnetism".>They certainly don't explain how dangerous it isThe specifically do when they are bringing the armada in, that would be the general knowing.>Jake, QuaritchI can excuse their lapse of intelligence for being around a bunch of Na'vi that have been groomed into never having anything to do with metal.Because of all the magnetism on the planet, most likely, but also because Eywa wants to keep them primitive.
>>216949594Because he wants to extract the maximum amount of cash from the franchise.Basically half of F&A is leftover ideas from WotW. He's dragging it out because each movie is making a billion easy.
>>216949613>I remember her death being from the ship getting sucked in the vortex.I thought that, too, but it is possible she got to an escape pod and survived.Which sucks because if she does she should at least be court martialed or fired or whatever and removed. Her choices were dumb and her character is bad.Weird that she plays basically the same role in Mayor of Kingstown and somehow it works there. Better writing for the choices, I would guess.
>>216949594that was the worst thing, it was such a rehash of the 2nd movie. at least the 2nd movie was distinctly visually different from the first one
>>216949718Definitely should have been more ruined landscape and volcano and lava in the third.Let us see where Eywa has turned her back to.
>>216949613No, in the version I saw Quaritch kills her and then runs off with the Fire woman that scene wasn't even in the final version
>>216949675Yeah it's just an all purpose trope of an advanced civ going "back to monke" and prohibiting use of scientific advancement. Eywa basically conveniently banned the use of metal.The whole thing comes off as something catastrophic happening in the past (those arch mountains seem like megastructures or parts of them) and they seem to be localized around those nodes with magic hdmi trees. same thing with these fluxes.This is all because the end game is them exporting this way of life and philosophy and all that to Earth, implying that something similar happened on Pandora way back when and they "solved" it by going back to monke, and now this solution will "save" Earth.
I think OP might be telling the truth because there was some leaked script pages from the movie shown in some video talking about something called the "Beta Bridge" and that might be OP is talking about. Wonder why cut this from the movie, thought wouldn't be the first time Cameron cuts an entire major element from the films climax (Avatar 1 with the forest being napalm'd and the scientist Avatars revolting at the RDA compound)
I believe this. The editing in the final battle was such a clusterfuck. I didn't know what was going on half of the time.
>>216949747Maybe you just dreamt that version. Really unlikely they would have a vastly different screener.
>>216948562You made up shit to troll people before the film released, well done you, the medal is in the post. Thing is though 4 chan is not reddit, its anonymous posts so nobody gives a shit if your old posts are exposed as bullshit, nobody remembers them anyway and when they're pruned they just go in the bin.
>>216949764More like he's making it up based on those notes. If there was a screener with entirely different plot points the info about such a screener would've already leaked.
>>216949542The flux is super important in the final battle and all the humans know this super dangerous but we never get explain where it comes from. It was never in the first movies.
>>216948562I just got back from watching Avatar 3, I didn't go see it sooner because my new well was coming in at Coyote Hills and I had to see about it. That well is now flowing at two thousand barrels and it's paying me an income of five thousand dollars a week. I have two others drilling and I have sixteen producing at Antelope; so, ladies and gentlemen, if I say I'm an oil man, you will agree. Now, you have a great chance here, but bear in mind, you can lose it all if you're not careful. Out of all men that beg for a chance to drill your lots, maybe one in twenty will be oilmen; the rest will be speculators - that's men trying to get between you and the oilmen - to get some of the money that ought by rights come to you. Even if you find one that has money and means to drill, he'll maybe know nothing about drilling and he'll have to hire the job out on contract, and then you're depending on a contractor who'll rush the job through so he can get another contract just as quick as he can. This is... the way that this works.
>>216949747>>216949495Yep, this is from Quaritch killing the General with the small stunt double as stand-in
>>216949822>we never get explain where it comes fromI agree, but I suppose I am more okay with the general "there's a shitload of magnetism" handwave.>It was never in the first movies.But floating mountains and giant rock structures molded into following magnetic fields have been.So I am okay with now seeing some massive magnetic field in action, and with all the Na'vi not thinking it very important to remark upon while the humans are going "stay the fuck away from that, it will destroy our metal things."
Only reason I might believe OP is because like four or five years ago someone here claimed to have gone to a screener of a few scenes showing>human jungle boy that didn't need a mask for some reasonspecifically mentioning the line>It's not the size of the dog in the fight...and he mentioned another scene showing people floating in capsules or something which I don't remember seeing in either the second or third movie.
Did anyone else notice that monkey boy wasn't a Naavi?
>>216949785In the test version the entire final battle is different, the blue and sea dudes have training from Jake Sully with the guns and use them to turn the tide against the fire tribe. >>216949787Entire subplot with the terraformer was cut, as Cameron why, I'm just saying what I saw. >>216949807What? This is post-release retard the movie already came out.
>>216949874YES SEE this is the fucking scene! This isn't in the fucking final version
>>216949994>In the test version the entire final battle is different, the blue and sea dudes have training from Jake Sully with the guns and use them to turn the tide against the fire tribe.He specifically said he changed this in an interview actually. As for why, blame all the people crying about muh colonialism and all that
>>216950017>>216949874samefag trying to shill his fanfic
>>216949907The anon that posted that line I actually thought of in the cinema when that human boy said it because I remember that thread, what he said and what OP say both track with the fucking mess of a third act we got.
>>216950055They kept the scene in of Jake Sully collecting the guns then we never see them again ??? BECAUSE IN THE ORIGINAL MOVIE he actually uses them all!
>>216949849Milkshake
>>216948562OP you retard just write out the full plot of what you saw please not this bread crumbing shit, what was the difference?
>>216950324>selfridge comes back as big corporate guy is introduced like that >they are testing with that chinese woman from crouching tiger a giant terraformer (same as the one in aliens but this time is also a weapon)>they fire it>causes loads of these flux wounds across the planet>Jake and the gang learn about it>Quaritch and his goon don't >More scenes in the human base>Jake trains all the blue and sea people to use human weapons>Kate Winslet has her baby at sea with the whales all around doesn't die>Quaritch kills the General woman who also had more scenes when he finds out about the terraformer The final battle was also totally different but so different I can't really explain how, like it was guns versus guns instead of whatever the fuck the final version was which just felt like a remix of the first movie? The earlier version was more like Navi vs Navi vs Humans and they all have guns Jake sully didnt have the orange bird either that was added in for this new version
>>216948562I remember reading somewhere that Varang killed Lyle in one of the test screenings too. He just kinda disappears from the released version.
How does the man come up with a script he turns into two movies, and both movies are 3 hours long and theres still shitloads left on the cutting room floor.
>>216950432>Jake sully didnt have the orange birdorange bird?ORANGE BIRD?THAT IS TORUK MACK TOE OK
>>216950498Fear, that's why so much of it is slop
>>216950432It sounds like stuff that will be in Avatar 4 at this point. They destroy Pandora, and Neytiri goes to Earth.
>>216950622my bet is that Kiri will become earths Eywa and terraform it and kill all the chuds and bring world peace in balance with nature
>>216949542>Why are there all these circular mountains?It's a basic geological formation, not uncommon but just never that perfect.
I think the pacing and the redundant scenes would be more acceptable for a television format. If you took 2 and 3, and edited them into 8 or 45 minute episodes, it would probably be a pretty good season of television. I can't even watch Way of Water in one sitting.
>>216950641i wont habeeb in Pandoran Mary Jesus unless she has freaky missionary tail sex with monkey boy audience insert first
>>216950679Nope. It would never have any budget to do justice to Jim's vision and no one would give a shit about it.
>>216950432https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk4QhCPqWpo&t=3484sop might be telling the truth
>>216948562>>216950324>>216950432I think it’s safe to assume that Jimbo saved some of that stuff for part 4 because he realised he could just rerelease Way of Water again and print billions
>>216950667oh really it's BASIC?
>>216950750more like he's headcanon lorecrafting based on notes for the sequel and rumors about 3 before it was releasedif this screener was shown we'd know more about it and details would be talked about widely
>>216950324didn't your momma ever teach you never to go full retard?
>>216950741I'm not saying it should be created for streaming, obviously it wouldn't bring in billions of dollars that way. But when 3 comes to streaming, they could throw an alternate edit on Disney Plus as a television show.
>>216950667>It's a basic geological formationI am truly curious where on Earth you think looks like this. Best I could guess is something like Tsingy or the grand tetons, but those are not the same at all, just the closest I can imagine.
>>216950784unless theres an NDA and normies shit brix
>>216950432> Navi vs Navi vs HumansSounds fucking KINO if you ask me. GUNS vs GUNS vs GUNS. Would have been absolutely insane watching 3 armies with guns kill each other. Instead of the retarded bows vs guns and then everyone vanishes.
>>216950861>retarded bows vs gunsI would have liked seeing more of varaang's people, so the battle is mostly them vs the humans, and the "good guy" na'vi are still using bows but are pretty much useless and just there to get killed until Eywa is forced to step in.
>>216950824every time I sign an NDA IO make it my personal mission to break it because fuck them I say what I want
>>216951150I participated in market research for Fear 3 before it was announced, and immediately went and posted everything on /v/
>>216950820Yeah, I'd still say that looks like an artificial structure. But they could handwave it saying it's caused by the lines of magnetism from unobtanium or some such.
>>216951427is it worth a watch the avatar film
Holy shit, just post sexy blue cat women already.
>>216951437I saw the first two
>>216951437nonironically it is MUCH more realistic looking than 2nd or 3rdthey dumbed down the graphics significantly
What's the lesson behind all the Avatar films, anyway?White men belong to Native women, white men belong to giant alien cat women?
>>216951503Does every film have to be about one race/gender belonging to another race/gender in your eyes?
>>2169515031: mindless corporatism bad, general going native plot2: friends and neighbors are also family, basic new person proves themselves plot3: dealing with grief and changing longheld tradition, plot is sort of a rehash and/or one long chase (the movie is being rightfully panned for lacking new plot)
>>216949069>Whales have once a [length of time] communal spawning/first connection to ayyywa for juvenile space whales >There is a big eywa magic thing happening at that time when they do that >It conveniently keeps the humans from using autonomous infrared autocannons like they have around their base The three nonsense things establish each other without needing someone to turn to the 4th wall and explain to another character exactly what's happening... outside of the general doing exactly that to say it's an EM storm they should all stay away from.
>>216951503Imperialism le bad, national liberation struggle good, all else is ancillary to it.
my uncle works at nintendo and he told me some avatar 4 & 5 secretsthe climax of both movies are large scale battles between na'vi and humans
>>216950820Eywa magic
Here is the old leak.https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/212983050This leak gets way, way, way, way too many details right. It is undeniable at this point that several key plot points were changed in reshoots and editing.Originally the RDA wanted to terraform Pandora using something called BRIDGE. In the final film this project is never mentioned, and instead the RDA want to reverse engineer Spider's ability to breathe the air.This plot point kinda comes out of nowhere when you think about it. What exactly was the RDA's plan before finding Spider? Surely they had some scheme. Well, the leak says they did have a scheme, and activating it caused the magnetic rifts in the third act.
>>216948562I vaguely remember a brief scene of a bladerunner style Earth in Avatar 2, but I rewatched it in anticipation of Avatar 3. That scene isn't there. Am I crazy?
>>216954095its in 1's extended edition unc
>>216954095That was the extended edition of Avatar 1
>>216954023>Oh and also the very opening scene is exact copy of the first movie except it's the two sully sons flying through the mountains and instead of Jake talking it's the eldest son. Remember that when you go see it and you'll know from the start I wasn't lying. Huh.
>>216952825Still feels fucking random considering they always have to fucking beg Eywa to save them all the time. And Eywa waits for the last second to save them every time
>>216952825>>216954175The big thing for me is that Avatar 3 fails to explain where Selfridge came from. What exactly did the RDA send him to do? In the leak, it is claimed he was in charge of a terraforming project and activating that project caused the magnetic rift. This makes sense. in the final cut he's just... back for some reason, then randomly decides to be in charge of the "figure out why Spider can breathe the air" project.
>>216949888But floating mountains are everywhere in pandora . Flux bullshit is nowhere else in pandora. So wtf???!
>>216954211Why wasn’t he in avatar 2? Why is he even here in avatar 3? Seems like he could be replaced with anybody else and it wouldn’t change the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j65ZFV2j8Y4lol this is more entertaining than the actual moviescan we just see the performance capture insteadnot watching fart and arse but this is funny
>>216954237He left the planet at the end of Avatar 1. (I think they added an extra scene with him in the re-release.) So he's off planet in Avatar 2. Then suddenly he's back in 3.
James Cameron really is Paul W.S. Anderson with 10x the budget, isn't he?
>>216954267Holy shit Quaritch looks like he has AIDS. what the fuck?
>>216954514thats whats literally in the jabs/ozemypic food and air and water espeically in cali LOL
>>216948562test audiences just wanted a rehash of avatar 2 apparently
>>216954292a george lucass tier narcisist whos too big to be told no? That then bombs his entire franchise? Hmmm yep!
>>216954214>Flux bullshit is nowhere else in pandora.It's like saying tornadoes never happen on Earth. Sometimes they appear, sometimes they dont.I cant say it any clearer that I agree the movie did not explain it.I was fine with that, because it fit just fine with "the world has a lot of magnetism."I am also fine with the cut scene explanation of some world-hurting beam was shot into tit.
>>216950432I heard Michelle Yeo was cast for Avatar 3 a few years ago but she wasn't in the movie so I think you are for real
>>216948562what notes did you leave for Cameron on the card they gave you?
>>216954679Shes confirmed for 4 and 5, but yeah seems there was also confirmation she was on set for 3 after
The flux thing is seen in Avatar 2, in the same place.
>>216954023>Kiri throws mountainsWell that would have been cool.
>>216949709In the final movie there is a split second, blink and you miss it shot of Ardmore still on the bridge of the ship right before it's pulled up and destroyed
>>216948562If this is true i DEMAND Cameron fix it and release a director's cut. A2 felt well paced and organic. A3 felt choppy, inconsistent, and also not fully formed?
I guess Cameron realized the humans would be entirely irredeemable if they actually attempted to genocide all the native life on Pandora
>>216948562Was all the CG complete on the screening from Feb? Or was it like stand-in work print temp CG?
>>216954587Then why isn’t the flux near the hallelujah mountains? Or home tree? Why didn’t the flux appear when the rda mine unobtanium? Or when they torched pandora?
>>216954843I doubt if the plants would even survive if they made the atmosphere breathable by humans.
>>216948801>>216948562>>216947681
>>216954843i vaguely remember the first movie mentioning that even the comically evil humans are trying the avoid bad PR
not sure if OP is srs but there did feel like a huge chunk of missing info in the movie. Why did the general suddenly need to go into battle against the whales? The whole thing was just a mining operation. Quarritch wasn't at the harvesting in A2 so why was the female general there in A3? She just apparates there like yup this is within the scope of my responsibilities for some reason, need to be literally on the ship watching you guys hunt whales (???)plus how did quarritch go from "grounded" to rolling up to the battle?
>>216954869>Then why We both agree the movie as presented is lacking these answers.Are you looking for the explanation given in the cut scenesOr are you looking for the explanation that made sense to me as I watched the movie?
>Norm gets literally 45 seconds of cumulative screen timelol how much did they pay him for his 12 lines?
>>216954950The mining bullshit that was cut made sense. Why remove that from the movie? Now we have this weird flux bullshit that just randomly appears in the movie
>>216955004>Why remove that from the movie?Cameron wants more underwater and flying shots, and the things it explains dont need that much explaining.>Now we have this weird flux bullshit that just randomly appears in the movieIt's a magnetic storm on a planet established to high fuck-all high magnetism. this isnt immersion breaking. Or at least sorry that it was for you.
>>216955004I cant understand the reasoning behind taking it out either. It doesnt make sense to remove it if Cameron was worried 3 might be the last (cause if it was, then that plotline had more gravitas for a "final" movie) and I don't think it really makes sense that he decided to take it out and save it for movie 4 since that movie is already written and presumably has its own major climax to lead into 5.
>flux vortex out of nowhereoh right that unobtanium stuff exists. forgot about that since all we care about now is le yellow goo and not a room temperature lightweight organic superconductor ........
>>216955070Second movie explicitly states the mining operations are still ongoing (Jake was raiding them) and showed a mag-lev train, one of the things they use unobtanium to make. Why do you pretend to be retarded on an children's froghopping forum?
>>216955078>entire plot is driven and surrounds harvesting anti-aging goo from whales>w-well they mentioned the thing that was the basis for Avatar 1 and the entire basis for the expedition really in one sentence of a 30-second scene in the beginningi hate how some "fans" are willing to overlook any flaw just because they like the IP. manchild
>>216955116So you admit you were wrong in your initial claim and moved on to a new claim. I accept your concession.
>>216955160my initial claim was correct, they practically nixed (read: a seconds-long mention in a 6+ hours of additional film is not sufficient) the whole basis for the expedition so they could take this from a standalone to a Marvel-esque series for people like you. I guess the yellow goo is easier to grok for your ilk and you think it's acceptable what they did to the plot. It's practically a retcon but that 30-second scene is enough for you to forgive it. Disgusting. You have no taste.
>>216955225This is what it's like talking to someone with no object permanence.
>>216949066Because its popular now and thats the only reason women do anything.
>>216955266you're really going to pretend they didn't retcon it because they threw in a 30-second mention? that's what you're going to latch on to? the Jews are right about most people and you are an example of why
>>216955319>this thing no longer exists in the setting>yes it does, see this>JEWS JEWS JEWSMeds
>>216955266>there is permanence of objectsholy sophomoria
>>216950641hes thinks leftist will give up iphones
>>216948562Chinese single aunties FUCKING LOVE this movie. So like cute 35 year old single Chinese women are hypergamists who won't settle. But consider the 4/10 45 year old Chinese woman that is now kinda fat.Escaping into a fantasy nature world with blue cat people where everyone is sexy and skinny is the ULTIMATE CHINESE AUNTIE FANTASY.How do I know?I visited the DisneyWorld Ride for this and an auntie was in line with me. She was jumping up and down the entire time like she was about to cum. When the ride operator asked "any single riders?" she jumped up and down like a boomer at a Beatles concert screaming she was a single rider, she could get on the ride THAT much faster.So if the movie was changed, it may have hurt the plot, but consider these Chinese aunties and what they need to see.I think James Cameron should do a "Director's Cut" of these films. While that concept is absurd given his total control of this project, it's justified. The movies make so much fucking money he can do anything with them.He can say the movies were fit for audience preferences (and given the money, he'd be right). But there's a "What I kinda wanted to do" version as well. I'd watch it.
>>216949763If intelligent life can be found 4 light years away then it must be very common. This means that monkey mode even when supervised by a AI is a stupidly vulnerable position to put your species in. Someone is likely to come along and fuck you up.
>>216954175>And Eywa waits for the last second to save them every timeMaybe she's bored playing mother to retarded blue cat people, wants to see skyfolk fuck em up a bit?
i loved all three movies but you can only copy/paste a third act so many times before it gets tiring. i wonder if 4 and 5 will change the formula a lil bit.
>>216954023Hm, seems that guy was for real. Lots of stuff lines up. And what's not in the movie lines up with the idea of a cut terraforming plot.
>>216954023>Too OP >Impossible to explain how the ole gang get out of this one I doubt the leak but if true I can see why they changed it as soon as they had another idea. Humans getting eywa Bluetooth allows for a future point where humans can learn to like be less mean and stuff (jeeze gosh) as both sides come to the logical middle; don't be fucking pussies but also not racis for the naavi, don't rape the land and love your blue cat wife for the humans. Global terraforming tech is also incredibly overpowered and the only out would be humans using it on other planets and leaving Pandora as a backwater as the stars belong to them like the old meme. And if they didn't every movie would have to be "and then they built the terraforming machine... Again, for the 4th time. Quick save the 20% of Pandora not made habitable for humans yet!"
>>216954869>Water version of home tree EM storm because of or causing the space whale communion with eywa >Both likely the "magic" that allows naavi to make eywa go into the avatar state and destroy the fire nation fleet during the eclipse (insert Gutz shouting Cameron! here)>Have never been able to "make the planet fight" any time or anywhere else, asides kiri Jesus powering individual plants to do things in line of sight
>>216954023lol wow. yeah, and jim cameron's interview about adding toruk in late and removing the guns from the climax lines up with it. i can only assume that trying to kill eywa and destruction of bridgehead will be the plot of avatar 4.
>>216955707That version would have made even more money. It's just cope.
>>216956691Is this a "Larry Fink controls it all but I want to make movies" situation?
>>216948562I believe you. I bet they panicked about their amusement parks looking dated or some shit.
So now that it has officially flopped and Cameron will be forced to hold a press conference, what's next for Avaturds?
>>216949542the flux vortex is referred to in the first movie, its just a natural feature and never needed an explanation. mountains float because they have unobtainium in them which floats in a magnetic field, also shown in the first movie when the exec guy has a lump of it floating as a desk toy.
>>216948562it'll get added back for the director's cuthe said he cut like 1.5hours
>>216958363>the flux vortex is referred to in the first moviewhen?
>>216958372Do these movies even get directors cuts? I dont remember one for the first 2
>>216951455
>>216950432My nigger i think you're right wtf. James said in an interview that Toruk Makto wasn't in the film at all and is supposed to appear in 4, but he decided to bring have it in 3 as well. (He's still gonna be in 4)
>>216950679I bet there's gonna be fan edits combining 2 and 3 into a 3.5 hour flick, cutting out all the "oh he got caught"/"yay he escaped!"/"oh he got caught again"/"yay he escaped again!" stuff. I think my fav sequence is Neytiri infiltrating the human base. Felt like the movie was bringing us something new at that point.
>>216951437fuck yeah don't listen to the haters
Huh, maybe they're saving the terraforming stuff to act 1 of avatar 4. After that, there's 8 year time skip. Maybe the rest of the film is humans moving to pandora
>>216958966This is probably it. They'll show the cut scenes as something that was happening at the time but was irrelevant to the conflict at hand.
>>216958576My prediction is that Quaritch will tame another toruk in the fourth film.
>>216959195Calling it now. Opening scene of 4 is Quaritch falling down into the fire gandalf style but he gets picked up by his gf.
Jimbo Crimbo's Abata: Farts and Ass
>>216954023Lmao that anon was telling the truth
>>216959272Formerly Marm's
Kill all Na'vi
>>216959239The Ubishit game did confirm he survived and that he still works with Varang.
>>216954843Nothing evil about it. It's simply a matter of Will. Humanity is on an extinction path. Surviving by any means necessary is the greatest good. The N'avi are savages with no impulse for higher things. If in the war, they manage to win, then good. But if the humans win, it is simply a matter of our gods being superior to the gods of the n'avi
>>216959239>and I smote her blue pussy on the mountain side
>>216959698>no impulse for higher things.Developing a sustainable and tangible relationship with the entire environment of your planet without removing individual will to achieve IS a higher thing.
>>216958574The way the strap squishes the titty is perfect.
>>216960044Based.
>>216960434They spared no expense.
>>216960434>"I mean it was like I was back at drama school">"Finally I could use my body"I told you anons, she's a sex freak: https://youtu.be/gkQ841v5ADQ?si=STlD5E6qGclE_98w&t=83
Still pissed we'll never get the original screener cut of the Western Ghost in the Shell.>Had the proper GITS music over the opening>Had ending and plot way closer to the original movie>Had way more city shot slow scenes with GITS style music like the original 2 movies.You can watch the original trailer and like half the scenes and characters aren't in the fucking movie lmao, there's also scenes from the original ending in the initial trailer as well.
>>216961238>Had ending and plot way closer to the original movieThat would have been nice. What moron decided to randomly change it to the second GITS anime plot? It wasn't better having the major and puppetmaster be some stolen children's ghosts. It was way better having him be a rogue new digital lifeform that wants to create yet another new digital being.
>>216959698how do you cope with posting such cringe, anon? there's more to life than warhammer 40,000
>"lol its just some random gravitational anomaly in the middle of the sea"cameron probably
>>216961238>>216961635I heard that Rupert Sanders let some idiot producers push him around. Same thing happened on his The Crow remake.
it was one of the magnetic poles of pandora. that's how hard the core of the planet is spinning to generate a magnetosphere sufficient to protect the life on it from ionizing radiation. because none of the lifeforms on it are natural.
>>216948562the film is already 4 hous long. was the screener version 6 fucking hous?
>>216962640Where's the countdown to release of Avatar Fire and Ash Ultra Extended Cut?
>>216950820Volcanic chimneys, riverbeds, it's really not uncommon to find curved/circular rock stratifications.
>>216963198that's a bunch of semi-random curves. >>216950820 is a bunch of broken concentric circles.
>>216963355Hence the initial statement "just never that perfect". It's a movie where there's flying mountains ffs, some concentric circles shouldn't raise much questions. Looks just volcanic to me.
>>216963198>curved/circular rock stratifications.Horizontal rings forming from wind and/or water erosion through leyers of sediment is nothing at all like vertical rings of granite formed by following magnetic lines.
>>216954023How are leaks happening on 4chan of all places lmao
>>216963610Easy to stay anonymous.
>>216963610imagine being such a goddamn newfag to ask such a stupid thing without embarassment
>>216948562The story was completely incoherent and the ending was just recycled from the 2nd movie. At least we got alien sudanigger bitch r34 out of it
>>216954023>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/212983050Anon actually saw the different cut 6 months before release and /tv/ instead of asking more questions called him a liar. We're worse than reddit
>>216963832>instead of asking more questionsI'd rather ask more questions after the movie premieres. It's more interesting to hear the differences rather than just get spoiled after waiting years for a movie
>>216963737There was good character development.
>>216963737Yeah im not watching A3 again until there's some kind of extended cut that fixes all the pacing problems and missing scenes, and reverts the reshoots to their original version.
>>216950784You think normalfag test audiences remember or care?
>>216963737Don't Toy with Me, Miss Varang
>>216949000It's a magnetic storm
>>216949763>This is all because the end game is them exporting this way of life and philosophy and all that to Earth, implying that something similar happened on Pandora way back when and they "solved" it by going back to monke, and now this solution will "save" Earth.It would be really funny if they tried that, only to find out Earth's equivalent wasn't actually killed, but is loving what humanity is doing because it picked up one hell of a grudge against asteroids and other space phenomena fucking up previous "peaceful" biospheres. Just going war footing against the rest of the universe.
The movie was already very good, the director's cut may be even better, that makes me happy
>>216949874>Yep, this is from Quaritch killing the General with the small stunt double as stand-in>>216950017>YES SEE this is the fucking scene! This isn't in the fucking final versionThe actress in the mocap suit is Kacie Borrowman, who is a stunt double acting as Tuk. You can literally see her name on her helmet. lol
>>216966655LOL and she totally doesn't play a stand-in for other characters meant to be small compared to Avatars except you can literally see that she does, dipshit
>>216968179Yes? So it could be any "character meant to be small" in this pic >>216949874
>>216955707Pro-tip: if they ask for a single-rider on Flight of Passage, never raise your hand. Single-riders get put on the last seat of the ride which is like picking an edge seat in a movie theater. It looks like SHIT
>>216948562He can't change the entire fucking movie in less than a year. You're making shit up.
>>216948562I don't think those were issuesit was a bigger problem to me how the three of them on a single mount just flew out of the middle of the bridgehead without anyone pursuing themor how the final battle was a mess
>>216950432I was tolerant of Avatar 1+2, but the third one was too bland for an already bland series. All these cuts probably explain the issues with the film.
>>216954926why did they bring gunships to a peaceful fishing anyway
>>216969462He has said in recent interviews they changed the entire final act with filming happening in August of this year.
>>216969938wtf how is this ok? And there's still not more Varang?
>>216950820These are probably ancient ruins of an old civilization. I bet we find out more about that in 4 and 5. And I bet they were human, and Eywa is also human.
>>216970214das rite!
>>216954023I think I like the new plot better than some magic laser beam. It's more heady and weird that the seeds have had this ability to make humans breathe the whole time. It suggests this innate connection between the two worlds and something counterintuitive for a god-world that doesn't want to be violated. There's an opportunity for the series to end with slow integration of humans to the Pandora eco-system, whereby they can return to earth with a changed spirit that will begin to heal that world.
I was really hoping this movie would end with jake being captured and taken back to earth
>>216970254Yeah, actually the ancient civilization will probably be a seeder race that created the Naavi and humans, and became Eywa after they transcended their mortal form, and now they are custodians to the navi, who they try to teach to live in harmony with nature.Calling it.
>>216949476The cuts are quite visible and abrupt. I noticed that, when JakeSully and his family board the merchant vessel, get ambushed, crash, and then meet up with Quaritch and sleep on the beach, after they wake up, Quaritch is gone, and the very next shot is Quaritch trudging through the ash. We have no idea how he came there or why. It physically pained me to watch that part.
>>216970386There is obviously a ton of cut content from Wow & FaA. But we will probably never see it since the movies are already 3 hours long each, and no one really cares about them that much, and they certainly won't have a lasting impact, so no one will be asking for the 24 hour cut.
>>216969462>>216969938>>216970048If this is true, that's so crazy to think about. Delay after delay, and then mere months away from release, Cameron gets a fully complete and watchable movie, goes back in to re-do half of it, and sloppily cuts everything together.If this is all true, I just want to understand why the completed movie was changed and if we can have the option to watch that version. This irks me to the same level that i presume Snyderbros felt when they nagged for the release of the Snydercut. Except in this case its the director ruining his own work by second guessing it at the last minute?
>>216970386>when JakeSully and his family board the merchant vessel, get ambushed, crash, and then meet up with Quaritch and sleep on the beach, after they wake up, Quaritch is gone, and the very next shot is Quaritch trudging through the ashwhat? They escape the ash na'vi through the swamp and wake up the next morning when the omaticaya arrive. Quaritch clearly runs into the forest so he doesn't just disappear between shots. Him going to the ash clan happens after a scene of him burning a village.
>>216970557yeah that nigga is talking nonsense
>>216970446>so no one will be asking for the 24 hour cut.I do.
>>216970499Cameron overcooked, he got scared, went too far, normies probably gave him some not so stellar feedback about the movie and he shit his pants, the dude is another Ridley Scott
>>216954023>Originally the RDA wanted to terraform Pandora using something called BRIDGE.So they wanted to just nuke Pandora for the hell of it so it would be as shitty as the polluted Earth? I can buy it desu.
>Why would animal life on Pandora evolve an open, cross-species connection that enables one organism to invade the central nervous system of another?
>>216971241Stick to twitter and don’t repeat their bullshit here
>>216971241The ones with the connection passed on their genes, the ones without it didn't. That's all that evolution is. There is no "strategic thought" to it.
>>216959698Only a beta cuck needs to mental gymnastics their plan of conquest as a moral Good. There's nothing morally good about stealing land from others, but sometimes it is necessary if you want to survive. Own up to your crimes, pussy.
Hey dudes, what about overly long stupid scene with a whale council talking whale shit? Aren't you entertained?
>>216971333The Na'Vi are a genetically engineered race left behind some ancient aliens that arrived on Pandora ages ago and decided to go native. There's literally no other two eyed bipedal four limbed species with a single USB cable connection living on Pandora that the Na'Vi could have evolved from. All other species have 6 limbs, 2 sets of eyes, and 2 USB cables, minus the whales that have their connector inside their mouth for some reason.
>>216963832I read that thread. That OP seems to be an ESL retard who couldn't even understand/remember half the stuff he watched. The way he described key plot points made it sound like he's making everything up.>Kiri uses eywa swamp magic from first movie to turn Spider into a human-avatar hybridOf course it sounds like fanfiction when it's described that way. Of all the people to pick for a test screening, they had to pick the mongoloid.
>>216971681no the navi used to be an advanced race that intentionally reverted themselves to primitivism because they were destroying their planet. eywa is an artificial construct designed by them to shepard their present selves from repeating their mistakes.
>>216972371I don't buy the Na'Vi being native to Pandora.
>>216971681The prolemuris has 2 eyes and actually 4 limbs
>>216971681All the other animals they show breathe through weird structures on their chests instead of noses too.
>>216972803kinda 4 limbs, kinda 6 limbs. they're a notable exclusion, like the whales
>>216955715So it's just gunna be camerons terra e. 4 & 5 will be fighting/rejecting the kind of control of both the AI and colonial humies, not a full return to monke, but somewhere in between of the 'invade and destroy' and 'live in harmony with nature'. Human side needs more work, this all started from unobtainium being on this rock, that happened to be inhabited.
>>216948562Interdasting
>>216949849underrated, what the fuck is this thread
>>216949849THERE'S A WHOLE OCEAN OF UNOBTAINIUM UNDER OUR TREE, NO ONE CAN OBTAIN IT EXCEPT FOR ME
Neytiri is currently participating in a tournament to be Starlet of /tv/. Form is here:https://forms.gle/NDyYj17mjFatfWn76
>>216954775It would have made zero sense and is obviously made up. Eywa doesn't give you telekinetic powers, this isn't Star Wars.The whole "leak" is just a bunch of guesswork based on the trailers and got only a few things right by chance. It's made up.There's also absolutely no way a movie with visual effects this meticulous could be so drastically redone in just a few months. This isn't Marvelslop where they just hastily redo the CGI even though it ends up looking like unfinished shit.
>>216976815We know for a fact that it was redone in the last 6 months since Cameron himself confirmed adding Toruk and changing how Jake armed his allies with guns in the final battle. Both of these imply a significant amount of new rendering
>>216976815It would be her manipulating the magnetic fields that hold them up. Eywa should absolutely be able to do that and there's no explanation why she could control wild banshees without that.
>>216948562They were showing avatar 3 to some people back in Feb? Wew thats early
>>216977112Avatar 3 was supposed to premiere in Dec 2024. It was delayed a year, but was mostly ready
>>216975840kekI DRINK YOUR UNOBTAINIDRINK ELIE I DRINK IT UP
>>216950641No the nerds at RDA will make Navi bodies for all the souls in ewahs circuit and at the end there will be a "on your left" moment where Jake's son and tsutey will return with all the ewah avatars.
>>216977223That was a wise delay. It already lost money because of it being only a couple years after TWOW. The 2nd got so much money because of the time lapse between
>>216955619>hes thinks leftist will give up iphonesthey will get Eywa phones made out of plants
>>216977331Gotta let those billies regrow between harvests. Cameron is wise in sustainability.
>>216971241Twitterfaggots wasting time making up theories. I guess this is what "cultural impact" fags do with their free time. And now they try to overanalyze Avatar.
>>216948562>just like Eyes Wide ShutThis is his final film confirmed.
>>216977331Nah due to real hyperinflation, it would have made more money back in 2024 December compared to now.Look at the USD versus Gold since then.
What happened to this guy
I'd fuck a blue space catgirl.
>>216977057Yeah but the Toruk doesn't really appear in many shots since Jake falls off it pretty early on, so that's more than believable in half a year. OP's and the "leaker"'s fake descriptions are of a movie that would basically be completely different from start to finish. Even just the battle described of the ash people attacking the sea people at the start of the movie would have been a HUGE change into the wind trader attack in the final movie. That would undoubtedly take more time than six months.
>>216978700are those glow sticks?
>>216978700Followed orders and stayed at base playing xbox with his human bros
Going to go see it today for the first time
>>216978827you're a sicko
>>216979909>the only Na'vi woman with big tits is dead nowExtremely unfortunate.
>>216948801>>216948562
>>216980003i dont get it
>>216979973she's not dead, she just got bitch slapped and ran off screenwill probably find evil cat man and turn him into a zombie or something
>>216980028She likes white dick
>>216980003I dont understand why nigs seethe at this, she is half white herself isnt she? its like if whiteboys seethed at Zendaya for not dating a white dude
>>216980060No I meant the water tribe matriarch.
>>216980262People to this day on both sides generally believe in the one drop rule, basically.Especially if you actually look the mix the more. Her skin is black, for example.
>>216970557Of course, this entire thread is made up bullshit.
>>216980262Her mom doesn’t look white
>fire woman says "we do not suck on the breast of weakness" or somethingNa'vi breast milk confirmed. Mommy milkers are a trend in the milky way galaxy.
Very interesting thread. Wonder if more word about these changes will spread
>>216980367All intelligent aliens must have breastfeeding females, since only milk can deliver the high energy and rich nutrition required for developing large brains.The more intelligent the alien species, the larger the breasts must be.
>>216980367Jungle fever
>>216980262>ZendayaCrazy hot bitch fuck the china dick
>>216978986>Even just the battle described of the ash people attacking the sea people at the start of the movie would have been a HUGE change into the wind trader attack in the final movie.This is the leak:>The movie starts after the second one like instantly after and the fire people attack the water people. The human kid and the sully kids run off into the jungle during this attack (there's an even bigger boat this time) and the human kid's mask gets hit when he falls down this hill. Kiri uses some kind of magic to make him a Na'vi Human hybrid. Giant battle basically straight away I would say like fury road in terms of just mostly non stop action. Neytiri gets shot by Fire woman here and ends up in the human hospital back in the jungle.It's possible the traders were added late in production and originally they were attacked directly. The film's sense of geography is a bit weird. Or else the leaker was just confused about what tribe was under attack.
>>216980003>>216980262Snowpuppies is the latest trend
>>216980262She's Dominican and Puerto Rican. Her mom looks heavily mixed (Spanish, Native and maybe some African ancestry) and her dad looks mostly African descent.
>>216981998The best thing about that ridiculous cape is that the bride made it for him herself. Motherfucker won the lottery
>>216980003>"He knows. He knows that you know that he knows."What a smug, lucky bastard, kek
>>216982939>NativeWhat native? Caribbean natives were wiped out centuries ago.
>>216983024Ricans and Dominicans still have some native admixture, around 10 to 20% on average, even though the native population doesn't exist in the modern times.
>>216983094To be fair, so many blacks passed through the Caribbean that you can make a native in the aggregate. In many photos Zendaya has fooled many Hispanics I know into thinking she's Hispanic.
>>216948562Interesting, somebody needs to leak this cut
>>216949066My wife wanted to drag me to this fucking thing too. Women are conformists and "everybody is seeing it" so they have to as well. Thank God we ended up not going. Fuck this horrible goyslop.
>>216985281>this cutIt's only in his head
>>216949069Watch Galactic Football
>>216985420If it was only in his head then why did Selfridge make a return for this movie?
>>216986327Because his dad runs the RDA
>>216948562Pity bump
>>216948562what notes did you leave for cameron on the little card they gave you
>>216948562I'm pissed if this is true. Someone needs to meme this up enough to where the question gets passed on directly to Cameron.If it's not true, then Cameron needs to at least release an extended cut or alternate cut with better pacing.
>>216965153thispeople are brainlets your clue was when weapons (made of metal) were being pulled towards it
>>216948562https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBeIAeILk
