Biggest waste of a franchise everI liked terminator 3 and thought salvation was passable btw. They should have committed to the future war stuffI find it really bizarre how obsessed the franchise as a whole finds itself with the actors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton for no real reason. Arnold only ever helped its box office in T2. Linda neverThe only times using Arnold past T2 made sense to me was>T3: John having an emotional connection to the terminator was extremely important even as it reminds him he’s literally not the same one and didn’t experience that stuff. Arguably him lying to John to get him to safety in the bunker in the end is thanks to the terminator basically embracing the childhood hero role and pretending he was that same guy so John would trust him >although the CGI has aged poorly, seeing John Connor freak out at the terminator in salvation and having to fight him was coolAlso it’s hardly a coincidence the downturn in writing also matches with zero new interesting terminators too. Just re-using the T101 and T10000.One of the reasons I enjoy terminator 3 in spite of its flaws is the new flavour of terminator. I liked the mix of Liquid Metal on top of a solid frame with built in weapons like energy projectile, flame, hacking tools etc.Actually did make her seem more dangerous than the T1000. Especially when you consider at this point the machines must have known they weren’t just sending a machine back to kill some humans but probably also to kill any reprogrammed terminators the resistance sent back What would you have done to keep the franchise strong? Please no pointless answers like “just end it after T2”
Also enjoys the tv show, frustrating it was cancelled when it was but history has shown these things have a tendency to rapidly decline when they aren’t “cancelled before their time” anyway
>>216955609End it after T2. But seriously, the Future War shit would have cost way too much to do properly.And the enemy is soulless robots, so it's just a pew pew pew spectacle where the only drama is humans getting wasted by robots.
>>216955609The only good one was the first. Rest was just varying degrees of popcorn schlock.
>>216955660The first one is just a cheap slasher flick with a time travel plot and a stop-motion/puppet monster. The second one is a badass sfx extravaganza by the guy who constantly raises the bar.Keep your pretentious bullshit to the Alien/Aliens threads.
Weird how they NEVER tried to do a straight prequel to T1.
>>216955646>End it after T2. But seriously, the Future War shit would have cost way too much to do properly.Possibly, but I imagine you could film a lot of it in desert regions and just act like it’s places that got scorched clean of buildings and trees by nukes>And the enemy is soulless robots, so it's just a pew pew pew spectacle where the only drama is humans getting wasted by robots.I disagreeA) you DO have human drama, you know. Between the humans. It wasn’t done well but I liked seeing the human resistance leaders weren’t all worshipping John Connor in salvation because of some time travel prophecy because there was no real proof and it hardly would have made sense to anyway. There’s an interesting idea in seeing these post apocalypse militaries from different rival nations now working together to fight the machines too.Liberating humans from the camps the machines were experimenting and exterminating them in always has emotional potentialB) we literally see that one terminator on its own has the potential to become more human like. Both in a positive way with the T101, and in a negative way with the T1000If the machines are actively losing the war, and were seeking to develop perfect infiltrator units. Wouldn’t it make far more sense for them to create terminators to accurately understand or even simulate emotion and human style thinking?Imagine if they made basically sleeper agent terminators who thought they WERE human like Marcus in salvation. Until they get activated and start killing and targeting high priority humans
>>216955609i fucking hate franchisefags
>>216955861Plus, salvation was poorly done but the ideas were great. John becoming more machine like in his thinking as Marcus, a machine shows their potential to become more humanI thought the ending where John gets Marcus’ robot heart was fine. But the original scripts ending where John Connor is killed, and Marcus literally chooses to take his face and replace him so the resistance would still have their messiah to rally around a fascinating concept. Especially since if that happens, it really doesn’t matter what Skynet does ever, John Connor effectively becomes an unkillable symbol.
>>216955811How is that not what Salvation is?
>>216955887I assume he means the run up to the resistance beating Skynet and capturing the time travel facility John looks so cool in the future glimpse in T2
