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Were men really expected to throw away all their hard earned savings for a woman on a single day?
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>>216957813
>were
Still are. Weddings and marriage are meaningless. Love is enough.
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why would i want to remember that?
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>>216957813
Women think the more money you spend on them, the more you love them. Its some ass backwards shit they're fed as children. Financial security throughout our whole lives? Pfftt that's some nerd shit
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>>216957813
it goes you show you what women really want
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Women have been tricked into believing that the purpose of a wedding is to have a bigger and more expensive party than her friends had at theirs. I think this is why Muslims keep their women on a tight leash because when left to their own devices women get stupid ideas that need to be shut down for the betterment of society.
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>>216957813
Would a woman rather be with a poor man who tries his best to spoil her and gives them everything he makes? Or would they rather date a millionaire who makes her pay for her own meal every time they go to dinner?
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>>216957813
Traditionally the bride's father pays for the wedding. The husband/wife only pay for it if their families are poor fags
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>>216958373
The real blackpill is that it doesn't matter how rich or how kind you are, your woman will still find a reason to be miserable and cry to her friends about how much she thinks her life sucks.
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>>216958329
>Its some ass backwards shit they're fed as children
It's actually just boiler plate American consumerism.
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>>216958433
That has spread to every nation on earth.
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no, it's just a tv show
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>>216958370
>for the betterment of society
But Muslim nations are the worst places in the world, Anon. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the more freedoms women have in a nation, the nicer it tends to be.

I don't know why but I think it's literally because women be shoppin' and that stimulates the shit out of your country's economy.
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>>216958370
>when left to their own devices women get stupid ideas that need to be shut down for the betterment of society.
Correct. Women are like children, and need to be treated as such.
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>>216958491
>Muslim nations are the worst places in the world, Anon.
Nope. That would be black "nations".
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>>216958373
They would pick the millionaire if they get to sleep in his mansion, ride his luxury car, attend fancy events with him, etc. Of course the ultimate goal would be to marry him and have a kid, then they're set.
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>>216957813
Big weddings are so fucking retarded, why not use this money to invest or buy a house
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>>216958515
Woman are impulsive and hedonistic, they cannot imagine anything beyond their immediate needs. Men will save their money for a rainy day while women will blow their money on a pair of shoes that cause them physical discomfort but look pretty.
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>>216958515
If you watched the episode, you'd know she eventually agrees with him.
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>>216957813
Apparently the bride's parents were expected to pay for a lavish wedding, after saving money for that specific purpose for their daughter's entire life. But Monica's parents said fuck that shit and bought a beach house instead. That's when she started pressuring Chandler to foot the bill instead.
She relents by the end of the episode when Chandler wins her over with his plans for the future. The viewer wasn't expected to agree with Monica and I've never met anyone who did.
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>>216957813
I always thought it was tradition for the bride's father to cover this type of shit.
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>>216958370
>"Fuckin year, women are dumb!!!"
>*Fights and dies in world war 1/ 2/3*
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>>216958550
>Woman are impulsive and hedonistic
They sure are, but that hasn't nothing to do with their desire to throw a lavishly expensive wedding, which has everything to do with their sadism and lust for power.
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>>216958491
>But Muslim nations are the worst places in the world, Anon.
You just know some obese, dumb amerishart who hasn't ventured past his backyard typed this post.
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>>216958491
there's a world out there that you don't know anything about
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>>216958903
>>216958992
you're both right about that but I challenge you to think of two worse places to live than Afghanistan and Somalia
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>>216959031
Counterpoint: UAE and Oman
Cherrypicking some random Muslim country is extremely disingenuous
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>>216959328
>UAE
Lmfao
>Oman
Roflmao.
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>>216959355
Both streets ahead of the United sharts of turdmerica. #TrueStory
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>>216958515
>why not use this money to invest or buy a house
Women are mostly retarded. If they didn't have an excellent father, they are shit, with very few exceptions.
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>>216958373
Millionaire. If SHT with poorfag they're in the street. Women pick security at the end of the day.
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chandler should have seen monica's spending habits as a major red flag and called off the wedding.
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>>216958693
You're not a woman and you never will be, so stop pretending.
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>>216958564
Didn't he give into her wishes and agree to spend on a semi expensive wedding?
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>>216957813
I don't see my "girlfriend" much these days and I am never spending money on her again even just food.
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>>216958670
it's adressed in the show, they spent the money because they never thought she'd get married after shit fell off with richard
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>>216958433
>>216958439
It is more deeper ingrained than that you retards. A third world shithole like burgerville doesnt have a hold on the worlds minds you burger faggots.
While sure, capitalism is a contributing factor, the concept of a dowry has been a part of human society for millennia.
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>>216959031
>worse places to live than Afghanistan and Somalia
Disregarding these countries as they have been affected by wars, the former that americans created...but still, USA is a worse place to live than a muslim nation not fucked by war.
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>>216960215
But thats not whats being discussed you disingenuous cunt.
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>>216957813
It is if you wan to marry an upper class woman who can cook.
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>>216958439
mate, if the greatest nation on earth is doing it then you best believe the other nations are all following suit innit
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>>216960249
That's just not fucking true. Have you even lived in those countries? I have. Let me tell you something. Unless these Muslims you speak of are white or white-adjacent, it's "absolutely a shithole" rather than "probably a shithole". They're still the same dark skinned savages, their countries are full of immense suffering, and no amount of religion will fix them!
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>>216960340
The difference being if you are not a brown muzzie yourself you are gonna have a different time.
In strict muzzie countries they dont have fags bumming each other in the street, niggers running round with guns killing people, dont have civillians running around with guns, women are not getting raped every day...they have universal healthcare, community of religious piety...
None of which america can hold a candle to. Instantly making it a more fortuitous place to live.
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>>216958433
Imagine falling for such a ridiculous psyop. You're literally the goodest goyim telling others they're shabbos goys
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>>216960440
man, you should live there, sounds like paradise
but you stop using the internet, that evil western sorcery
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>>216960440
I do agree with that. The one thing I will say is Muslim countries do often keep clean streets, have respect for other people, and strangers are kind and willing to help. I saw it with my own eyes. What the Muslims lack in material prosperity and good government they make up in their virtue. And I don't say this about the diaspora populations, I mean the actual nations.
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The bridesmaids family traditionally pays for it
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>>216958373
>ahpoopmapantsss
>havesex!
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>>216960215
>dowry
Bro a dowry is when the MAN is paid for marrying the woman, cash up front offered by the father to get the fucking bitch out of his household. It's not the MAN pays fucking millions upon millions of hard earned bucks and goes into debt so the bitch can have one ceremony where she pretends she's the queen of fucking England.
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>>216960440
>In strict muzzie countries they dont have fags bumming each other in the street
Indoors, usually. Otherwise it's the same, but with more children involved.
>niggers running round with guns killing people,
Muslims, same diff.
>dont have civillians running around with guns
They do, but the difference is that you don't have to have a license for it.
>women are not getting raped every day
They are, and the idea of marriage is a sham to both parties involved.
>...they have universal healthcare, community of religious piety...
Mindless zealotry, at best. Can't comment on the healthcare, however.
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>>216960693
A dowry in principle is an exchange of wealth to show prospectiveness of being able to take care of the woman.
Its the same reason why a shitty ratio of wages to cost of a purchase of a ring has also became a phenomenon in the matrimonial game.
What you cant understand because you are clearly american, i.e a retard is these social systems/expectations have grown out of customs in place in society for millennia.
Not the whole world has magically become brainwashed by one countries shitty ethics (america) a country full of retards like the entire world is following a group of retards like rats following a piper.
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>>216960905
>t. amerrican retard who has never left his home town
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>>216960650
>Muslims
>virtue
You should move there, Fuentes.
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>>216960981
Your shithole is just India with less colors.
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>>216960981
>>216960440
>they have universal healthcare
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>>216960992
What part of "they're still the same dark skinned savages, their countries are full of immense suffering, and no amount of religion will fix them!" don't you get?
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>>216961028
Are you talking about america?
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>>216961042
Both desu
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>>216960440
>they have universal healthcare
I don't think monthly UN air supply drops count as healthcare and the only thing universal about your healthcare is that all your 'men' have butchered dicks, because it pleases Allah or something.
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>>216958370
Muslim women have the religious right to demand dowry from their men and buckbreak them into being providers.
Muslim women are also commanded by Allah to hide their sins, so they have no issue lying about being virgins, will commit infidelity and adultery then ask forgiveness, then never tell their husbands
Islam is a completely cucked religion with only an outward intimidating image. It is true that a muslim man has the final say but this means nothing, if you are skilful enough you can ensure you have a dynamic with a woman where your word is final and that's that. No need to submit to a cuckold god.
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>>216960693
>>216960966
To correct this too a dowry (the actual definition of the word) is wealth the brides family pay the groom/grooms family. Though we were using it in a different term but both understood.
Still a dowry is also actually part of the matrimonial custom where the "father of the bride" pays for the wedding. Again,, customs that have been a part of society for millennia. Not invented by a bunch of retards in a third world hellhole then followed by the rest of the world.
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>>216961068
>your
Burger retard...

Your county mutilates your childrens cocks for a jew demon you fucking retard.
At least the muzzies do it for their god (which is also the jew god)
Your retarded country does it for a jewish golem. People mutilate their children and are not even religious.
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>>216960693
>>216961087
In islam it's the man who's paying the dowry to the woman, and she has the right to demand any sum she wants and also subsequently divorce him if her financial needs arent met.
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>>216958433
no it isn't retard. This shit is 100x worse in Asia and Europe.
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>>216961121
Islam is a lot line Judaism.

Copes for manlets who aren’t 6 foot:
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Friends is pure goyslop in the original sense of the word. Erase it from your Boomer brains.
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>>216958418
trvth nuke. My ex who I dated for three years and got engaged to always acted happy around me, was proud when I got two promotions while we dated and started making 6 figs, I spoiled her rotten with fancy dinners and bought her anything she wanted. One time when we got drunk she told me she missed when I was poor and we just started dating, how her favorite memory was of us fucking for the first time on a hotel room floor in Vegas that we shared with 5 other of our friends because we were so broke. Not the lavish dinners with the good wine, not the beach vacations, not the romantic sex in a hotel suite after watching the sunset.... fucking on the dirty floor of the god damn Excalibur with our friends sleeping on couches and recliners nearby.

She ended up banging my best friend so that saved me a world of hurt had we gotten married, I'm thankful for that.
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>>216961201
>I'm thankful for that.
Good, you dodged a bullet.

Little life advice anon if you want to take it or not.
Try to make sure that a woman understand that her "feelings" are internal factors that are her responsibility not external factors caused by others, before you think about having any long term relationship with a woman.
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>>216961114
Sure thing agent Fuentes, still seething about the pardon?
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>>216961121
women can't initiate divorce in sharia
try again shlomo
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I'm not going to read any of the thread but its a shit-test
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>>216961087
No you faggot I don't care about whatever "point" you're trying to make about America, a dowry is a dowry and the onus is always that the woman's family pays, not the man's. Because the woman is EXPENSIVE for the man to have around and you the father has to offer compensation. It's basic economics and even people 200 years ago knew this.
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>>216961252
>Try to make sure that a woman understand that her "feelings" are internal factors that are her responsibility not external factors caused by others
Does a woman like this even exist? Haha. I broke up with my ex five years ago and I just don't have meaningful relationships anymore. FWBs or exclusive fucking at best, and I've yet to feel any strong pull towards a woman anymore other than lust and getting some affection from them, so I'm okay with never having a serious gf again. Getting too old too, might switch to prostitutes soon.
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Being obsessed with a big wedding is one of the bigger red flags imo. It shows financial illiteracy/irresponsibility, vanity and shallowness. Gross.
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>>216961323
What's worse, Nick? Being brown or being a manlet?
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>>216961289
>uhhh technically women can ask for divorce they cant initiate it reeee
shut up cuckdul.
And remember when fatima gets negro dick and gives birth to african child you cant question it, thats haram. Faggot.
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>>216961407
concession accepted christcuck
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>>216961342
>Does a woman like this even exist? Haha.
I have only met a handful of women and they are either/or high intelligent, very religious.
Basically unicorns.
Everything else you said, pretty much my experiences and sentiments too.
Prozzies are the easier option, and cheaper!
No emotional drama fucking up your life.
Women are really just a fucking chore.
While I dont hate women innately, like every female I despise. The idea of having some sort of emotional or whatever bond (a gf) just seems fucking pointless. No matter how nice they are, they just complicate life. Seems counter productive.

Never know maybe when I/we get older some old pussy might be nice as I know women when they get post menopause can grow in intelligence as they realize all they had that made them useful has gone, so they may try and make effort into character development. Stipulating MAY strongly.
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>>216961379
I am not your boyfriend you schizo fucking retard. This isnt facebook you fucking retard. now go back you dickless burger faggot.
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>>216958370
Idk every woman I've ever been with when the question comes up just wanted a small ceremony with close family/friends and then use the money on real shit later. One of them insisted we just go get the paper at the court house and be done with it, no official ceremony. I think the large grotesque ceremony is a boomer thing. Their parents who raised them on dirt floors certainly didn't do it.
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>>216961561
>she has the right to [...] divorce him
christcuck can't read, what a surprise
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>>216961594
She does have the right, and can go to islamic court and make her case.
The fact that the man has to say the magical incantation means nothing.
Don't try to pilpul here, abdul. You'll never be as good as your jewish masters who invented and own your soul.
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>>216961646
>your jewish masters
Christ is king of the jews :)
(Luke 23:3)
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>>216961552
nta
I dont think it's to do with intelligence or religiosity. Rather it's having some positive masculine qualities and virtues, often moulded into her by a strong father
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>>216961678
I accept your concession, abdul
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>>216961572
burger imageboard
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>>216960905
>Can't comment on the healthcare, however.
universal garbage
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>>216961114
>At least the muzzies do it for their god (which is also the jew god)
still retarded
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>>216961594
>christcuck can't read
neither can most arabs desu
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>>216961695
Not sure. Never really inquired into their childhoods. I just know it does in fact take a certain level of understanding, which in turn takes introspection, which in turn takes intelligence to understand that feelings/emotions are coming from inside and we can, with skill, effort etc take control of them. People who lack this process (intelligence) just instantly think "I feel bad, it is X making me feel bad, so I got to get away/get rid of X" with in this case of relationships, X being you.

If you have ever met a woman who suffers from clinical depression, they spend their lives getting away from Xs (no pun intended) and often end up living a life in solitary. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Shit i live in relative solitary, but not because I think other people are the cause of bad feelings. They just cause more issues in life. Mainly because of their own swirl of emotions.

As you would understand, generally women live life through a lens of their emotions. Where men view the world in a logical sense, problem solving, women live life through how they feel about things and if they feel bad, its something/someone external to them that is causing it.
As you can see, this is quite retarded.
With the handful of women I have met who understood that their feelings are their own interpretations of the world, most of them seem higher intelligent to the average woman I have met in my life. Or if not, as I said, devoutly religious. (or both)
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>>216961407
>ameritard gets BTFO
>starts fantasizing about bee bee cee
why are these creatures like this?
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Where's the bride's father? He no made money?
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>>216958370
Modern culture sucks but looking at Muslim countries for the answer is retarded. Most are impoverished shitholes. The nicest ones are sustained by infinity oilbucks and have been adopting some very western sensibilities on some things, while retaining their love of aristocratic strongman leadership.
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>>216961957
>Most are impoverished shitholes.
Gee. I wonder which cancerous country kept bombing them and made them like that????
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>>216961969
most muslim countries HAVE NOT been bombed by americans so keep coping, uneducated moron
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>>216959328
There are far more muslim shitholes compared to nice countries, and the nice ones are sustained by insane oil wealth. They're nice in spite of being Muslim, not because of it.
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>>216961935
I think he bought a Porsche with the dowry money.
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Nothing is more apparent that the 3rd world has WiFi than 4chan advocating Islam.
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>>216962003
>oil wealth
created by the white man, even for that muslims owe the west
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>>216962006
All is lost then. The marriage is doomed
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>>216958329
>Women think the more money you spend on them, the more you love them.
They think the more money they can get a man to spend on them, the more high-quality they are in comparison to other women. It’s about clit measuring with other women.
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>>216961995
Uh huh. Not plenty of them were. Keep jiggling your fat rolls in anger you stupid americunt.
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>>216962027
*But plenty
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>>216961903
That was you, abdul, whether its the qu'ran, arabian nights, or the part where you are encouraged to racemix. KEK>>216961072
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Having to read thirdie comments makes me wish we bombed them as hard as they think we did. Pull some shit that makes what the Mongols did to Merv look like a joke.
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>>216958370
women run muslim societies. the only difference is their men are allowed to chimp out and smack them around if the gynocracy goes too far. but women still run the daily affairs of the muslim home (which is a bigger part of their society than the home life is in the west).
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>>216962095
Where did stormfags even go? The Internet became so unironically muslim so fast that it makes my head spin
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>>216958210
I married my wife for $28 at the court house. We took a road trip to her grandfather's vacation home on the gulf coast and spent a week there as a honeymoon. In total it was less than $1000 spent on travel, food, entertainment, and the marriage itself. I made 206k USD last year. The entire thing cost less than a day's work.

There are women who aren't retards. I'll admit they're rare but they exist.
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>>216962095
>Having to read thirdie comments
I know. Reading ameritard comments gives me a headache too.
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I'd really like to see if there was ever any follow-up on this

https://archive.is/IVb0a

>Women buy 94% of furniture…92% of vacations…91% of homes… 60% of automobiles…51% of consumer electronics
Harvard did their big brain shit and found that women spend 83% of all money on earth

The problem is they did this study 16 years ago and since then no one has ever shown any interest in investigating it again, which is especially amusing because you'd think learning more about it would be hugely advantageous to advertisers or businesses
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>>216962372
I'm sorry but this kind of projection doesn't work coming from literal goatfuckers
No one is ever going to look at pic related and be impressed
It's like a Korean calling you shrimpdick
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>>216962375
they don't investigate it because they already know the answer, because so does everyone else
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>>216961139
Tiddy
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>>216958564
>>216959962
Yes. Many sitcom plots involve the man giving in to the woman being retarded simply because she’s a woman, and then the woman backtracking and saying “actually, you were right.”
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>>216962401
>projection doesn't work coming from literal goatfuckers
>still seethes hard enough that he HAS to reply
You ain't fooling anyone, ameritard.
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>>216962006
Beach house
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>>216961139
Did any of the shots go in?
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>>216962401
>No one is ever going to look at pic related and be impressed
I don't think anyone on this planet other than amerifats gets impressed by a guy eating food. lmao
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>>216962432
Holy fuck you're unironically Muslim?
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>>216958370
I bought my wife a 500$ dress, and hired a 50$ preacherette and got married at a library. It was pretty based since my sister had my dad spend 20k
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>>216962483
How does one even be a Muslim ironically you stupid ameritard?
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>>216962541
There's plenty of ironic muslims in the West. What a lot of people dont get is how westernisation completely cripples and castrates your legal philosophy that you call religion. It's been turned inside out and become a parody. Your future wife is watching fatima the libshit tiktok creator tell the world how Islam is acktually very feminist kek.
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>>216962372
but you spent thousands of hours learning ameritard you little freak
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>>216961114
>when americans mutilate baby dicks it's to venerate and enslave themselves unto a jewish false god
>when muslims do the exact same thing unto the exact same jewish false god it's actually based as hell
Revoke internet access for nonwhites.
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>>216958210
>Love is enough.
Shut up, faggot.
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>>216962975
>Revoke internet access for nonwhites.
I agree. Would be so fucking great when you muttmericans can all fuck off
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>>216962655
>>216962655
>learning ameritard
Buenos dias senorrrrr
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>>216962027
nope, still wrong
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>>216957813
Yes and still are. The entire wedding industry pushes this agenda.
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>>216957813
The entirety of Friends was a Jewish psyop
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>>216963078
Your skin has the same color as poop
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>>216962520
>preacherette
Is that a lady preacher or a small preacher?



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