This post destroyed modern TV/Film discussion
>>216958910It wasn't supposed to be a documentary.
>>216958910I could accept that though, there's literal magic? I'd just assume a spellcaster summoned it
>>216958931Why would you accept anything technological, social or otherwise from the current era being teleported into your escapist mythological fantasy? It's completely immersion breaking, like plastering a renaissance painting with an avenged sevenfold sticker.
>>216958910I could accept this picture up until the point where the BMW puts on the turn signals to turn left towards the enemy.
>>216958910I'll take a bmw over a black woman
>>216958924I'm a simple man. I see Baskin Roberts referencerts, I post.
>>216958910If this is about Race most normies don't feel particularly strongly about people of certain races showing up in places they should not be at.
If I don't see the good people of Sentinel Island represented in every media I watch I'm immediately sending an email to my rabbi, the ADL and my local senator. If we sit in silence then the Nazis win.
>>216958910I would start laughing
>>216959033Kinda silly to think wizards that can pull anything from any realm of reality and imagination wouldn't be able to summon an Avenged Sevenfold sticker to place on some art as a cheeky little prank
>>216959300Wizards are not gods with power over time itself
>>216958910No it didn't. Kys cuntless troon.
>>216958910>G30 Chassis>Not even an M5Why would I watch this piece of shit?
>>216959413Sounds like you have a pretty low level Wizard
>>216959413>arguing about what a wizard actually is
>>216959218>I'm immediately sending an email to my rabbi, the ADL and my local senatorSo you'll be sending one email?
>>216958931you would accept it into yourself ass*
>>216959473The book's magic is pretty weak. It's left as a plot device in a good way. It's never the deus ex machina, it's entirely set up. It's exactly how you use magix when writing. I mean I know I'm jerking off the dead horse there.
>>216958910It's a pathetic attempt by darkies to rationalize stealing another race's history and culture instead of digging into their own
>>216959466Gandalf ia one of the most powerful wizards in middle earth. If you talk this way about him again he will sodomize you with his staff and cast a fire spell with you still on the end.
>>216959473Get out casual. Stop larping as a cool, detached chad on /tv/
>>216959413Not with that attitude
>>216958910That BMW's license plate? SHDWFAX
>>216959082This whole shit happened because "culturally redpilled" people are prohibiting "culturally insensitive" material from being made though
>>216959540I don't like gay dungeons and dragons shit
>>216959623kek
>>216959523Yeah but he won't have an Avenged Sevenfold sticker on his staff, so the victory is still mine
>>216959631What whole shit happened, tyrone?
>>216959515>>216959540Only OP's image is about LOTR. This reply chain is about magic in general.
>>216959523>Gandalf ia one of the most powerful wizards in middle earthOnly because their standard of measurement was gay sex with trolls and goblins
>>216959515>The book's magic is pretty weak.That's why he could only summon a G30 530i and not an E39 M5
>>216959676If you start making the argument that wizards can just summon complex machinery out of their realm of concept you might as well say Gandalf should super man fly to mordor and turn Sauron into a cactus.
>>216959300Gas guzzling motor tech is orc shit regardless
>>216959478Initially yes, I'll then create a number of sock puppet accounts to send more. We can't forget what happened during WWI and WWII. It can't happen again.
>implying Gandalf wouldn't drive a BMW
>>216959746what does the flaming pinecone do?
>>216959716saar?
>>216959711Why do that when he could fly a jet?
>>216959817Sends extra boost to the turbo which causes flames to shoot out the exhaust.
>>216959841>not using jetboots to destroy the dark lord
That post is disingenuously arguing that black people in a medieval setting is just like a BMW in one.
>>216959866It's not disingenuous, it's correct.Also, FWIW I'd HIGHLY prefer LOTR to be littered with BMWs as opposed to a single nigger.<3
>>216958910>the post pointing out the absurdity in modern fantasy writing>not the writers creating it I thought leftists didn’t like victim blaming
>>216959890Who cares? Its not real.
>>216959861Gandalf listens to the American Sniper Soundtrack to get hyped up before taking out the trash
>>216959933I care, stalker.Yes, child, it is real. This is why your life is already over, stlaker. Enjoy prison.
>>216959478Congratulations for being the dumbest poster on /tv/.
>>216959456Based e35 appreciator?
>>216959983>It reveals itself as a kiwitrannyThis is like boasting about being a something awful poster in 2020
>>216960035Patposting isn’t from KF you absolute newfag
>>216960016The joke is the rabbi, senator, and ADL would all be the same guy. It's not that complex retard.
>>216959726>We can't forget what happened during WWIAre you talking about the attempted jewish-marxist overthrowing of the German republic in 1918?
>>216960088Uh I think I get it
>>216960080No one cares kiwitroon
>>216959983What
>>216960088I don’t get it
>>216960088I get the joke, but it's based on a false premise.
>>216960102Ah, I get it. You lurk there, bought Null’s narcissistic belief that KF is the center of the internet, projected it out and are now embarrassed that you’re too new to know better when corrected.It’s ok, fren. Just lurk a bit and the problem will fix itself.
>>216959516the opposite, it shows how ridiculous woke is
>>216960033>>216959456Meant E34*
This is obviously about race, but taking it at face value there is something extremely degenerate about the kind of writers who don't respect coherence and just throw whatever gives them a nerd boner at the screen and if you complain they just quote Clarke's law or say a wizard did it or something similarly jewish (sophist, as we know sophocles was a jew).
>>216958910Uh sweetie we don't worship cars (unless they're EV's made with Chinese slave labor) whereas we've always worshiped peepoo of colored so it's easier to suspend or disbelief. And yes sweetie no character will ever be race swapped with an attractive Latina it will always always be the most disgusting gorilloid you can imagine, hope that helps :^)
>>216959866Why did you immediately think of black people? Black people weren't even mentioned.Got something on your mind?
>>216958910qrd?
real chads know that 335d and 535d is where it's at
>>216960144Oy vey, telling jokes about jews is like another shoah
>>216960144shalom, senator.
But I can accept a BMW, just like I accepted Ron's flying Anglia. I really don't give a shit unless it's a show or game or movie that's trying to be realistic and historically accurate. For me the worst example of this is Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, I think that's way more offensive than Rings of Power or whatever inspired that picture
>>216960314I thought americans couldn't have dual citizenship?
>>216960253black people didn't exist in medieval Europe, and neither did BMWs.
>>216959127>lol nonwhites dont feel strongly about immigrating and fucking things up because they do it in real life already lmaoYeah, no shit they don't. But it has less to do with how nonwhites feel and more about how easy it is to trick whites into accepting changes they dont like/dont want when they just want a pure adaptation of an existing story property.they will let bad actors change key points in already established lore in order to subvert the series, its message, and its existing fanbase with the simple explaination that 'lol it's not real, it's just a [genre] (story) so who cares/it doesnt matter/why do you care. That even though the author explicitlly said the pale skinned god of light skin looked like a whiteguy, theres nothing unrealistic about <us> displaying as a stunning and brave powerful black woman because 'reasons'." It's an insincire arguement made by manipulative people who use media to push narratives and unagendas unrelated to the original story. White people still cling to concept of trust and honesty and then get btfo'd all day long by these kinds of arguements.>oh so it is about raceIt is explicitly NOT about race hence the example being a car, however white people are the ones who fall for it the most and its used against them the most because they will passively bow their heads if you make story changes that harms or displeases them them while pretending it isn't intended to do harm because they will allow themselves to be convienced if a suffiecent superfial arguement is presented to 'justify' the change. They intrinsically do not like arguing in public about these kinds of issues because they have been carefully groomed by the ruling class to find such topics shameful and embarrasing since they are suppose to be sorry for imaged crimes and slights theyve been told their ancestors did to others. >>216960209its not, it's also used for lazy writing/acting (why didnt character lose weight in GoT).
>>216960319>I really don't give a shitYes, because you have a low IQ and shit-tier understanding of creativity. You're the kind of person the OP and the rest of the thread is making fun of.
>>216959127>most normies don't feel particularly strongly about people of certain races showing up in places they should not be atLmao are your three or four years behind the curve, bro? Complaining about this shit has gotten A LOT more mainstream, especially with all the DEI/ESG bullshit becoming public knowledge.
>>216960359and your kind is incapable of having an original thought and you have been repeating the same tired catchphrases and pictures for 8 or 9 years now. you have no interest in creating art or engaging with art, you just want to complain because the teenage girl in the post apocalyptic show isnt hot enough or because there's some background actors who are not aryan or whatever your favorite grifter youtuber is complaining about now.
>>216960438>Entire post is just baseless projectionYeah, that's about what I expected from some low-IQ foid or foid-brained "male".
>>216960463Fucking based.
>>216958910it being funny aside, it's a pretty bad/intellectually dishonest analogy for people having different skin colors in fantasy
>>216960463>shove niggers in everything>people dislike it because it's bad and ideologically motivated>DAS RAYCISSSSSTTT>dis why we need represuhntation cuz all dese crakkkas hate us >repeat ad nauseam
>zoomer manlets feel left out of LOTRWhat a shock! Boo HOO!
>>216960438>you have no interest in creating art or engaging with artMovies are not art.
>>216959127Communist troon teleported from 2018 I see.
Pictured: a Hobbit along his two orcish enforcers
>>216960799That's clearly a human and two horses.
>>216960332LOL
>>216960438>people who are critical of art don't have interest in engaging with itWhat did she mean by this?
>>216960438>your kind bigot
>>216960314a seriously outdated list.
>>216960988It's all Finnish people now probably right?
>>216960765You might be the most retarded poster on >>>/tv/, I see this post in every thread lately
comparing a deliberately anachronistic piece of technology that's out of place in any setting except a modern world setting to skin tone, which exists in pretty much every fantasy setting and usually has plenty of valid in-world explanations is fundamentally dishonest and a midwit takedisclaimer: I think colorblind casting is bad and distracting at best in pretty much everything and I think it's usually done out of a cynical corporate need to tick off diversity boxes to avoid controversy from twitter sjws for being too white, or in some cases to even get free marketing by generating controversy, rather than actually providing meaningful representation
>>216960354So it is about race, ultimately. The car is the white man's guilt made manifest. You can accept dwarves, elves, dragons and wizards but you can't accept a little white guilt? God put it there, the God of David.
>>216961029Wizards could have summoned BMW's but they would never summon blanks. Sorry bud.
>>216961031made manifest
>>216961029Actually the comparison is apt because we wouldn't have niggers or cars if it wasn't for the fucking sodomite jews and their slave trade and industrial revolution. It stands to reason that I wouldn't want either in my fantasy setting since the entire point of the fantasy is to create a white genesis myth that isn't jewish. Tolkien said so, though not in so many words since he had to virtue signal for the jews already in his time as well.>but I am not a racist, that's not how I think about this subject!You should be a racist, and you should think about this subject as a racist, because racism is based and redpilled. Social ostracisation for being non-racist will soon become the norm and then things will be great again.
>>216961029also>fundamentally dishonest and a midwit takeIf honesty and intelligence gets between you and what you want, it's a completely worthless ideal. We know that now, because of the lessons of the 21st century. We are endarkened, and that is our salvation.
>>216961021You see this post in every thread lately, and yet I don't see any rebuttal. Movies are not art.
>>216961029>usually has plenty of valid in-world explanations isUsually leftist propaganda backed by billionaires. Wouldn't call it valid though.
>>216958910New Robin Hood tv series. Little John, a saxon warrior, is coal black. A large portion of the story is ethnic strife between Saxon and Norman. A group of white, brown and black people standing together "We're all Saxon!". It's an ok show but just stop doing this. Eric the incel plays friar tuck
>>216959716Hobbits are fighting global warming instead of Sauron. Based and wholesome chungus fun.
>>216961162I’m not gonna engage with your entry level bait beyond calling you retarded.
>BMWonly balkan untermenschen drive these shits here in switzerland lol
>>216961530>his country has zero (0) major automobile manufacturers
>>216959081This
What happened to all black and brown Elves and Dwarves in the Third Age?
>>216958910is the implication that modern films have brown people because I'm supposed to want to buy one?
The only thing black people ever want to talk about is that they're black.
>>216962813>words words words
>>216958931>BIGDADDY
This thread is a good example of zoomers trying to meme by posting Facebook shit.
>>216958931How fucking sick would it be if Aragorn arrived in a 5 series doing circle work out the front of a pitched fantasy battle
>>216959711Gandalf genuinely could do that. What he says can become reality, so he can probably turn anyone into a cactus. There was just more shit going on.
>>216959516>race's history and cultureThis is so funny because for people like you race is culture even if they have nothing in common.
Negros?In a medieval setting?Nonsense!
>>216965305other way around. africans from tribes that have nothing to do with each other all count as the same culture and race "black"the justification is "the american europeans abused them"but no matter how much abuse is brought to various european tribes they can NEVER be defined under the singular culture and racial banner "white"this makes it easier to pick them off one by onewe get it
>>216958910>screencapping your own post from years agoBased retard
>>216965445>st mauricemodern hollywood would never have a noble black character who is also willing to martyr themselves in the belief that jesus rose from the deadin fact netflix or something just made a show where the japanese are treated as epic and cool for crucifying missionaries, and the missionaries are lame and weak
>>216966108No. "black culture" is not used for africans in Africa, its for black-americans. African tribes have their own indivudual culture.
>>216959033People don't read fantasy to "escape" lmao. Fantasy works have always been relevant to social themes of their contemporary present. That goes back to ancient legends, let alone modern fantasy books. Otherwise these stories would have 0 meaning to the audience and be completely uninteresting. If contemporary issues shouldn't be in fantasy then why did Tolkien include themes to oppose nazi ideology contemporary to his time? Why did GRRM include themes of decolonialization and indigenous liberation that were not relevant whatsoever until the 20th century?If you think fantasy shouldn't be relevant to modern day then you don't know shit about fantasy. You just don't know shit.
>>216966387hey you are doing that thing where you intentionally misunderstand something so discussion becomes impossiblei notice you made no objection to the use of the word european in my post despite it being under the exact same conditions lol
>>216960438>and your kind is incapable of having an original thoughtThis post is so ironic it hurts to read.
>>216958910Its fantasy so it can happen, its not like its trying to be realistic ;^)
>>216961029>skin tone, which exists in pretty much every fantasy setting and usually has plenty of valid in-world explanationsExcept this is bullshit. When people complain about this it's precisely because there are NO valid in-world explanations for it, such as the setting being a trade hub between nations, for example. Instead, the isolated villages somehow look like Californian college campuses in a world that for the most part, if not entirely, depends on medieval modes of transportation.
I accept your consession
The people who justify this never really say what the point is.Like why are we doing this? What is the end game?
>>216966387Black culture, not the shit made in cia and media think tanks, is distinct from African culture and is constantly under attack because the us government is genuinely afraid of American blacks.
>>216966436If you say "European culture" then yes, you are forcing a bunch of different cultures under a geographical umbrella by definition in the same way saying "latino culture" would. That would not make them "the same culture" nor interchangeable.
>>216966668>Instead, the isolated villages somehow look like Californian college campuses in a world that for the most part, if not entirely, depends on medieval modes of transportation.Because that never existed in history? Only trade hubs could be multiethnic? There were never migration events that weren't dependent from trade, ever? lol>>216966698Why does there need to be one? You're the one obsessed with race in fictional fantasy settings.
>>216966668Amerimutts genuinely know fuckvall about actual history. Just the comfortable lies snd fantasy of media and manipulated history books.
>>216966698to fuel capitalisms ever growing need to make the line go up
>>216960314
>>216966750Because this is a new phenomenon>>216961778Rings of power has a huge amount of diversity. The Lord of the Rings movies did not.
>>216966799My uncle yesterday showed me a clip of the Witcher. A bunch of mages were killing each other, many were black. He thought it was cool and I thought "Why is he not noticing the blacks?"
>>216966790The problem is the all female ghostbusters makes less money than the originalThe all female Oceans 7 makes less money than Oceans 11The reboot of Little Mermaid with a black girl as the main character floppedThe reboot of Annie where they made her a black girl floppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nasLuiP-1E0Every time they make a woke reboot the line goes down
>>216966935you think the box office is what theyre after?
>>216966750>Because that never existed in history?How would such a thing ever exist? I guess if you're living in some ancient equivalent of the soviet union, and it deliberately uproots all the peoples it conquers and distributes them randomly throughout its lands. Though certainly such a thing would immediately lead to total chaos and utter dysfunction. Even the actual soviet union only uprooted whole groups of people to the same location, not individuals randomly distributed, which is what you'd need for this result. And regardless, the ethnic diversity would disappear in a few generations anyway, as all the people in these villages inter-bred with each other to create new local ethnicities. Although, they probably wouldn't last long, since competing monoethnic groups living next to them would outcompete and replace most of them. The whole premise has so many problems, you really need to think up a VERY extreme reason to justify it in your setting. It's so extreme that even in contemporary welfare states, importing millions of people and supplying them with free stuff to sustain themselves on the state, people still live in monoethnic enclaves within their host nations. All those immigrants live in that area; all those immigrants in that area; all the natives in that area; etc. To get these multiethnic villages, you'd need a state that is more totalitarian, and strangely motivated to make its entire population multiethnic, than even the most extreme state that has ever existed in all of human history.So yeah, that is a pretty hard pill to swallow.
>>216967037tl;dr
>>216966698>>216966790suuure
>>216967037Yeah mass migration events did happen, going all the way back to ancient Greeks then Romans distributing foreign slaves within their lands. In the middle ages there was a whole migration period from the east and Arab conquests that brought MENA people to Europe. Not sure why you think that only a weird computer distribution could result in multi-ethnic communities in medieval Europe.
>>216958910oh no it didn't.
>>216967105You mean how the romans travelled literally across the entire world to take slaves, which they all treated equally regardless of their ethnicity, then distributed them randomly throughout their lands, then made them all free citizens within a generation, and then they all conformed perfectly to the local culture? You mean that's what you think happened?
>>216958910Fuck that, if I would insert something ridiculous, I would just gift them an armoured vehicle instead.
>>216967168No, I mean enslaved people distributed in classical antiquity continued to live in Medieval Europe. Did you think they magically disappeared? And this was just one mode of populational movement mentioned in my post. You're just mad that history doesn't align with your made up modern narratives.
>>216959817>he takes the iconography literalit's for the pinecone warmer. very popular option in the early 2000s. In had one installed in my Intrepid, never looked back.
>>216966429>Everyone who reads fantasy uses it for the exact same reasons as me which is to further intellectually explore the mundane misery of the real world using dragons and elves or some shit
>>216966750>Because that never existed in history?You are either completely historically illiterate or deliberately disingenuous because you know the facts aren't on your side. Modern fantasy diversity is completely anachronistic and relies entirely on modern modes of transportation AND modern habits of just randomly relocating to the other side of the globe. >There were never migration events that weren't dependent from trade, ever? lol"Migration events" don't just sprinkle a perfectly curated selection of different ethnicities around the world and those "migration events" would have to remain almost constant to keep the distinct looks around without them just mixing into the majority population in a generation or a few.The worst thing about midwits like you is how confidently ignorant you are.
>>216959082For some reason, the takeaway from getting mad at private citizens conducting social pressure was to turn around and elect people who literally ban things instead.
>>216967751see>>216967105>>216967648Yes, fantasy exists to explore contemporary themes through a fantastical hyperbole. It always has
>>216958910Fantasy was always kinda gay compared to sci-fi. You get what you deserve.
>>216967751Okay, youre a mutt who litterally only exists because of migration slavery and war. Youre a random sprinkling of different ethnicities who was convinced that there is a "white race" by people who see you as fucking useless eaters and cattle. Youre a retard and a perfectly designed field nigger. You know less then nothing and revel in your loud ignorance.
>>216959127people care about race. get over it>>216960354It's about race. The point is that fiction has fictional elements, but >muh diversity doesn't belong in LOTR, and people don't want it in LOTR, because diversity is bad.
>>216960332You might be thinking of how the president is required to have been technically born an American to be elected but he's literally the only person that applies to.
>>216959300>Kinda silly to think wizards that can pull anything from any realm of reality and imaginationthey literally can't. magic is limited>wild west setting has revolvers>ergo its kinda silly to think cowboys can shoot any possible gun but wouldn't have laser guns>t. retard
>>216967803It's not exploring contemporary themes, it's agitprop normalizing a political agenda. Exploring contemporary themes in this regard would involve narratives of globalism and the dangers of rootless elites waging a cultural war upon their own populations. Which is inappropriate for a fantasy show regardless, that's sci-fi stuff.For a narrative that would be appropriate in fantasy though, "make [america] great again" sure would be one. All fantasy is rooted in awe of the ancients, since it comes from modern western europe, which emerged out of the post-rome world of people living in ancient ruins that they didn't understand and had no idea how to make anymore while trying their best to emulate a culture and recreate a civilization that was long gone. The idea of 'progressive fantasy' is as ass-backwards as it gets; fantasy is LITERALLY about how things were better before. Which is why all modern leftist attempts at it are so soulless, though a more appropriate word might be "satanic". It's too bad the secularists robbed us of such powerful terms, because its religious connotations are appropriate here.
verisimilitude
>>216969019wow, you cracked the code! in medieval denmark, the average village contained inhabitants that could be considered only 95% danish, with trace amounts of swedish, norwegian, or perhaps even german. truly a diverse paradise on par with the average american town. I now see that ethnicity and unique cultures are therefore worthless and we should all talk the same, think the same, and most importantly, act the same for our masters.
>>216961579Most major automakers are hideously in debt.Swiss have the right idea (as usual)
>>216966750are you literally retarded?>Because that never existed in history?No there was never an isolated village that looked like a California campus>Only trade hubs could be multiethnic?You think farming villages were getting immigrants from across the globe?Even trade hubs weren't nearly as diverse as modern day cities. Merchants travelled a circuit, they weren't going all the way from home to every single end destination their products reached.>There were never migration events that weren't dependent from trade, ever?invasions by elites that ruled for a time? yes. Settlers from within a local area? yes. intraregional reorganizations by empires? sometimes. multiracial mass migration? no, never.
>>216970410>they literally can't. magic is limitedIt's MAGIC
>>216970791You're not from denmark you fucking buffoon and know less then fucking nothing about it beyond what you googled moments ago.YOU ARE A FUCKING MUTT and the fact that ANY of those characters look anything like you are anyone in your family is fucking bullshit. You're a goddamned random grab bag of random ethnicities that had the "white" label slapped onto you by your masters.You're fucking retarded. Do you fully comprehend how little you actually understand? You like your culture is a grab bag of random goddamned bullshit and you grasp tightly to the manufactured color coded race label to have one. You are bitching about stupid fucking shit that just boils down to you not liking the wrong shade of skin on the fucking screen.
>>216958910Chuds are so fucking stupid lmao.
>>216970517So you agree fantasy is about reflecting contemporary themes, you're just mad because pretty much all popular fantasy narratives disagree with your opinion. I already knew that and you didn't need to write so much to say it. >>216971637You're just arguing against the known reality that multiethnic communities existed in Europe. Which is meaningless anyway because Middle Earth, Westeros, Tamriel (etc) are not located in Europe.
>>216971637Ah, cause the vikings didn't go to north america, or the syberians didn't come to north america and went on a genocide campaign.Or america is all white with no other races. Cause last I checked, that's not the case. What about the genetic testing that found that europe used to be a lot...SWARTHIER then it is now? No?Reality am bad let me have my all "white" fantasy stories? That are 75% jews? Okay sure moron. Go for it.
>>216971788no one wants to see niggers they don't do it because they think it's art, they do it because they're mad that white people have art that doesn't have niggers in itstick that in your pipe and smoke it
>>216967105>going all the way back to ancient Greeks then Romans distributing foreign slaves within their landsMost slaves native to southern europe, because in the past slavery was an intragroup phenomenon, unlike the transatlantic slave trade.Slaves from outside southern europe would either be europeans (central, northern, etc.) or MENA. Not blacks, asians, etc.>In the middle ages there was a whole migration period from the east and Arab conquests that brought MENA people to Europe."migration period"We have advanced genetic studies nowadays. The invasions by the Mongolians, Tatars, Magyars, Saracens, and Moors made little to no genetic impression on Europe.Sicilians are 20% nonwhite, but as you move north that percentage falls off a cliff.>>216967320>Did you think they magically disappeared?We have the genetic data. Either they weren't as big a group as you pretend, or they were wiped out.>You're just mad that history doesn't align with your made up modern narratives.>t. thinks history looked like a California campus
>>216971695>the setting has guns>therefore you must accept laser guns!no
>>216958910I hope they cast a latina as Galadriel in the LotR remakes and coincidentally all of you stop bitching.
>>216971788You have at least 39 different /pol/ pictures in an organized folder?
>>216972075216, but who's counting?
>>216971838>You're just arguing against the known reality that multiethnic communities existed in Europe.We have the genetic data from modern Europeans and historical Europe.>Which is meaningless anyway because Middle Earth, Westeros, Tamriel (etc) are not located in Europe.lol that just means we know EXACTLY how the creators envisioned the places. Tolkien constructed a thorough ethnography for his setting. We know with complete confidence what people looked like, and they Middle Earth isn't diverse. Elves are all white. Dwarves are all white. The humans of Gondor, Rohan, Arnor, etc. were all white.>>216971911>Ah, cause the vikings didn't go to north americaOh, there's a lot of viking DNA in native americans? The Spaniards and English got here and found white vikings alongside the natives? Oh, right, that never happened lol>or the syberians didn't come to north america and went on a genocide campaign.You're using waves of genocidal colonization to prove that multiracial society was normal in the past?>Or america is all white with no other races. Cause last I checked, that's not the case.You're using modern America to prove that Europe was diverse a thousand years ago?>What about the genetic testing that found that europe used to be a lot...SWARTHIER then it is now?You mean before the European race evolved? The WHG weren't the same people as modern Europeans, just like the Neanderthals weren't the same as WHGabsolute gigaretard
>>216967268That's badass.
>>216972159Oh you're a troll.I just thought you were merely fucking stupid.
>>216969019>Okay, youre a mutt who litterally only exists because of migration slavery and war.damn nice multiracial society you've got there. really proves tolerance and diversity are normal.>Youre a random sprinkling of different ethnicities who was convinced that there is a "white race" Whites (europeans) are a distinct genetic cluster. there is a lot of genetic overlap between ethnicities within race.>by people who see you as fucking useless eaters and cattle.you're defending corporate propaganda in corporate productshave some self awareness>>216971744>incoherent seething>reddit spacinghmm
>>216972352>y-y-you're a t-trollYou're wrong and you know it.
>>216959033They're already speaking in modern english, with inaccurate dialogue, anachronistic armor/architecture, in a fantasy version of the era with other inaccurate nonsense going on that somehow doesn't drastically uproot or change the world for some reason.
>>216972362Unironically using the marketing term of "reddit spacing">>216972470N...NO U.This is what I expected.
>>216972470No. Every credible authority on fantasy literature agrees with me and disagrees with you. Your dead and defeated ideology is condemned to fringe forums and edgy youtube videos. The world says I'm right and you're wrong - I won't.
>>216972603I didn't say anon was a troll, retard, I said he was wrong.
>>216972643>muh appeal to authoritywhat about the author?>NOOO not that kind of authority!!!also>the normal position is dead and defeated>t. defending corporate propaganda that's losing money
>>216972770>y-y-you did a hecking logical fallacy!Ok. I'm still right though. Everyone who matters agrees with me while your failed ideology circles the drain. I win
>>216958910>Any car from 2021>Optional heated seatingEven my cheap shitbox from 2001 has that. Chuds can't meme.
>>216972988>media illiterate>history illiterate>genetics illiterate>politically illiterate>rhetorically illiteratelol the only failed ideology is Diversity is our Strength™
>Leftoids>White people are all inherently racist with in-group biases and tribalistic tendencies and have a long ingrained history of being racist and oppresive and exclusionary by nature>also leftoids>wtf why do you white people not like diversity in your media?? wtf is wrong with you?? who cares about race anyway lmao you're so obsessed with race why do you even care about it anyway (also majority white populations will totally support my progressive policies, leftism is le silent majority opinion somehow wait why don't you support my policies)?................because we really are as racist and tribalistic as you said we were? I've never understood how leftoids even make sense of their own ideology like this or how they can't see how paradoxical it is that they literally think white people are inherently racist by default but are still baffled when the white people act like racist chuds and are against them. If you already thought white people actually really really DO care about race then why the fuck would you even be surprised to find white people complaining about diversity in their media and why would you act like these 'chuds' are some weird minority of outliers and not like how you already just said you think all white people are like. And then even worse is how the new cope line to get around this is going "i-it's only browns who are larping white nationalists" even though it's exclusively the white people are racist IN YOUR OWN FUCKING IDEOLOGYmake it make sense
>>216967803All art is meant to explore contemporary themes. What makes it escapist is how it tackles that subject matter.If you wanted to make a fantasy story about government corruption, you wouldn't set it in modern day Greece with their government funded train system.
>>216973261Good thing I don't subscribe to that one. How's your 2015 era edgy anti-SJWism doing these days? Wait, do you identify as anti-woke now? lol
>>216961031average white people feel literally ZERO guilt whatsoever about their evil past or whatever it is literally just being forced top-down on populations and stated as if it is a fact and enforced through policies literally no one votes for but in reality literally no average white person gives a single FUCK about the sins of their ancestors or even their own current 'problematic' behavior or anything, they literally only act as if they do to avoid consequences that are being forced on them.
>>216973556I identify as not gay. Try not to have a spazz fit over it, queermo.
>>216973556being an 'above it all' fence-sitting colorblind 'I just don't care about it' type even now is a losing ideology and is literally delusional and crashes against reality. The actual nature of reality and the political conversation has marched so far past your circa early 2000s millenial understanding of it that you just look idiotic still repeating it.
>>216973590I guess you could call that a concession speech>>216973682>arguing with things no one saidJust respond to the actual words in the post next time. I explained how modern incel ideology incorrectly considers fantasy settings as some kind of beacon of ethnic tradition. That's all.
>>216959033>plastering a renaissance painting with an avenged sevenfold sticker.brb heading to the Louvre.
>>216973860>I explained how modern incel ideology incel ideology has literally fucking nothing to do with anything talked about ITT. You don't know what you're talking about or what incel even means or what they even believe. You're just conflating things together and think a whole range of very different things are all one continuum for some odd reason.Incels have very particular and specific beliefs and complaints that are not at all related to anything being discussed such as racial politics or diversity in media.
>>216973556>enters a thread about diversity-washing in fiction>sides with diversity>ummm actually history was this diverse>bets btfo>ummm actually i don't believe in diversitydamn the goalpost is moving faster than the speed of light
>>216958931I hate D&D niggers who take their late edition over-powered wizards as the baseline default for what a wizard is capable of doing. That retardedly overpowered dipshit setting ruined magic and wizards for everyone.
>>216973682>NO MOM I'M NOT WASTING MY LIFE SCROLLING SOCIAL MEDIA I'M FIGHTING THE CULTURE WAR AND ITS SUPER IMPORTANT
>>216974158>he sides with reality denial>he doesn't realize politics happens outside his screens
>>216959478KEK>>216959866The Lord of the Rings is meant to be modern folklore for White European cultures. That's the explicit reason it was written. It's not only wrong for them to be included but cultural appropriation and offensive to even suggest it.
>>216973860also in response to your actual words>How's your 2015 era edgy anti-SJWism doing these days? it's mainstream these days and influences right-wing talking points and policy and the cultural zeitgeist has swung into its favor and in fact the political conversation has become far more radical and marched well beyond just 'anti-SJW'if you think 'the chuds' or whatever you vaguely define that as are losing and its a dying ideology that is gonna go away 'any day now' you are really utterly delusional and your worldview and perception of what is happening must be coming from a place of seriously entrenched echochambers.Fuentes is mainstream. Tucker and Rogan are the most listened to podcasts. Vance will be elected in 2028. Farage will be elected in the UK. The further right-wing parties gaining traction in Europe will gain even more ground. And the people will still be disilluioned with the right-wing governments and demand even further right-wing solutions. The multiculturalism toys are going to be put back in the box. The glorious communist revolution and awakening of class consciousness is a Rapture-tier belief that is never coming. The return to circa 2000s comfy millenial liberal normalcy is never coming either. There is no 'progressive arc' to history like a storybook narrative. Historical materialism isn't real. History didn't end in the year 2000. You lost.
>>216974292good post fren
>>216961031It's over. I went full mask off and revealed my power level to my entire family over Christmas and they all agreed with me and said they'd been thinking similar things lately. No more hiding. No more shame. We're coming for you.
>>216959300No actually it isn't silly at all
>>216972576>anachronistic armor/architectureIt's a fantasy world.>It's supposed to be europe!No it isn't, dipshit, Mount Doom doesn't exist.
>>216958931>literalAre you also an atheist perchance?
>>216959300wizards can only operate and use magic in a way its described in the said universe. nowhere in tolkiens works it is described how wizards can conjure technological objects such as cars.you and op completely btfo'd, dumb meme debunked and revisionists seething/thread
>>216959478Lmao
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>>21695947810% of US senators are jewish.
>>216974147Seethe more fightercuck
>>216971788>>216971788Why aren't there any gazelles running around in the shire?Why aren't there pelicans browsing around in helms deep?Why aren't there an equal distribution of races across every continent?
>>216974687Calling people jewish on the internet is like calling people stupid or gay. It's not about percentages and pedigrees it's just a description of how unlikeable or corrupt or whatever that person is.
>>216960799Trucks are so embarrassing
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>>216974242You're right. Have fun with your non-existant market share with your all white european fantasy worlds. I'm sure the non-whites will miss YOUR media and won't create their own and exclude you and yours. And your owners media. Have fun in your dilapitated culture ghetto.
>>216975021The desire for big trucks a necessary element of society, as well as the trucks themselves, even if the desire can become stupid when not understood properly. Let go of your sour grapes.The only truly vain, and even harmful, activity that car owners engage in is adding louder and bassier speakers to their cars to pollute the environment psychologically.
>>216975410>the only way to preserve white culture is to destroy itnice try
>>216975585No.We are talking about the segregation of your media and "culture" that you wanted. Sure.That can happen. They really don't need any of the shit you're talking about and can just as easily drop it and start their own stuff. Can't actually send in mafia type thugs and government types to stop all of them. Not without starting a total civil war.
>>216975410>Have fun with your non-existant market share with your all white european fantasy worldswhat the market is producing doesn't reflect what the customers actually want, no one even likes the non-white european fantasy media and it is getting declining sales and viewership across the board>I'm sure the non-whites will miss YOUR media and won't create their own and exclude you and yoursyou know that's literally what conservative whites want to happen, right? They literally want the non-whites to finally fuck off and make their own media instead of trying to appropriate the white people's media for some reasonthe fact that you just assume by default that this is some kind of undesirable or insulting scenario to smugly laud over said conservative white people as if they even want outsiders to consume their media is indicitive of how deep the liberal and internationalist brainrot runs and how you are incapable of thinking outside the framework of 'cultures mixing with each other' as being inherently good and desirable/valuable.
>>216975665>and "culture" white people DO have culture, traditions and heritage, stop gaslighting, nobody falls for this tired old bullshit anymore. You kept prattling on about muh representation and how representation and culture matters so we took you at your word and are telling you the same thing. The shoe is on the other foot.
>>216958910Chuds make a bunch of excuses to not accept dark skinned people in fantasy.
>>216975691>no oneDemon slayers a movie that cost 20 million to make was #1 globally.A chinese mythology movie made millions as wellAnon. You're just some white trash coddled amerimutt who litterally doesn't understand how bad it would be and what is being done to protect your media. But sure. Keep thinking that. And let's take a look at the conservative movies that people who think like you and how well they've done. Motherfucker, you're a pawn. You still believe the people in power follow a liberal/conservative ideology and aren't all metaphorically and litterally in bed with each other. You'se a guud field nigger. You picks da bess cotton. Dey wuvs you and wants to protec you!Name fucking 3. Just three "conservative" movie shows anything made by people like you that have done anything except embarass everyone involved and shit the bed. Bonus points if it's not made by jews.
>>216975665Yeah, the free market doesn't need to be good for anyone. It just needs to move product. Why are you pretending to support that again? Because of some imagined narrative hypocrisy?Genuinely curious why you even entered the thread if you don't believe european culture has any value. Your compatriots clearly do as evidenced by their desire to be involved.Different anon by the way.
>>216975783That's as true as the narrative that mutts make a bunch of excuses to intrude on chud and his hobbies. But international mainstream media has a lot more money and influence than "chud" does, and yet you seem to have trouble noticing their efforts to undermine history and culture.
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>>216972576>that somehow doesn't drastically uproot or change the world for some reasonbecause every sensible and common-sense reasonable person understands that while in-lore it's meant to be where LOTR is actually a translation of a retelling of the events where characters like Frodo aren't even really named Frodo and where they aren't speaking English, there is no other way for a movie adaptation to depict this in an accessible blockbuster way. Elves randomly being black however goes sharply against how they are literally described -in-universe in the setting, against the whole point of the story and more simply just goes against how they were depicted consistently on screen up until that point. Stop pretending not to understand this.>>216974403>No it isn't, dipshit, Mount Doom doesn't exist.yes it is. Tolkein literally said so. LOTR in-lore is supposed to be a translated retelling of Europe's legendary distant past that has been forgotten. The whole point was that Tolkein wanted to create a work that would be like a unified mythology for Europe, a work that would be quintessentially European, for Europeans. Black people do not belong in Middle-Earth because they are not European.>ok but who cares, that's le racist and we have moved on from the moral values of Tolkein's day and can do what we want with the story, muh death of the authoryou are just stating your own political/moral values at us when you make arguments like this. We don't give a fuck about your values and reject them, we are not like you and are different to you, so this argument doesn't work. We disagree with black people being in Middle-Earth because black people not being in Middle-Earth is something we value and we agree with Tolkein's vision and intent of his own work because we are not like you and disagree with your values and view of the world. Stop pretending not to understand this.>>216975783we are past excuses. You are coping & desperately hoping it's still the 2010s. It isn't.
>>216976039Fuckin sniped by anime I love it.The anti-capitalist meme was stupid 15 years ago and it's only gotten more smoothbrained and more normalized with the participation of gen z and their "heightened awareness of injustice". Go complain about being "failed" by frutiger aero again, little babies.
>>216960314>joe liebermanthis image is 12 years old, minimum
>>216975318They were fighting over the remote, I assume.*Verification not required.*
>>216975837your 'it's for your own good' gaslighting doesn't work anymore neither do the 'you are helpless and not in control and can't effect anything because of le elites/The Conspiracy/The jews/whatever' scare tactics. You are afraid of the zeitgeist shift and cultural momentum swinging against you and are flailing. You are losing.>Demon Slayer>ChinaThe East are based for being homogenous nations with strong nationalist solidarity and their own succesful media and culture that reflects it, they should be proud of themselves and white western nations should see them as an aspirational example.>Name fucking 3. Just three "conservative" movie shows anything made by people like you>Bonus points if it's not made by jews.Robert Egger's entire filmography so farThe Dark Knight trilogyMel Gibson's filmography but especially The Passion of the Christ in particular
>>216966698The point is to rewrite history
>>216958910>Give me your name, car dealership owner, and I shall give you mine>I would key your car, dwarf, if your suspension held it but a little higher from the ground
>>216974147>martialnigger is getting uppity againCareful martialcuck, you wouldn't want to spend another day as a slug, would you?
>>216958910>A BMW 5 series?! Oh that was a kingly gift!
>>216958910I swear this was older.
>>216975410>>216975665>you better watch out or the nonwhites will create their own culture!okay?
>>216975783does it seem like anyone's making excuses?
>>216975837>Demon slayers a movie that cost 20 million to make was #1 globally.i literally don't care>You still believe the people in power follow a liberal/conservative ideology and aren't all metaphorically and litterally in bed with each other.anon didn't say that>Name fucking 3. Just three "conservative" movie showsare you for real?Fellowship of the RingThe Two TowersReturn of the King
>>216959866it's not black people being present at all, that's fine, it's every culture being multiracial without any explanation
>>216960314>>216960332Nobody on this list is an Israeli citizen. Show me any documentation, statement, or source outside of this 1 old jpg that shows they are
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