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>ruins your franchise
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>>216968146
I dont care that he's a nigger, what bothers me is that his character had literally no story arc.
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>OMG!!! Brown people….EXIST!!!!!
>ITS THE END OF THE WORLD EVERYBODY!!!!
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>>216968146
He was the best main character of the first movie.
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imagine how mindfucked zoomers have to be to think the prequels were good… without seeing them… lol
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>NOOOOO!!! I CAN’T HAVE PEOPLE OF COLOR IN MY MOVIES
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DEY FLY NOW?
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>>216968146
He wasn't even that bad, in practice. I say this as someone suffering from maximum nigger fatigue. The real mistake was trying to make him the Luke or Solo style main character. Ironically one of the only things Rian Johnson did right was fix that, but the consequences of the initial push was that there was no other main character to identify with, outside Rey (yawn).
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>>216968182
I don't mind black people in Star Wars

What pisses me off is black Imperials in Star Wars. Why not just make the Emperor a Droid while you're at it
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>>216968146
Not his fault
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>>216968146
>Oops Wrong Picture
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>>216968182
Everyone liked Lando and everyone liked Mace Windu. No one liked this guy because he's a racist asshole who never gave SW fans a reason to like him. He's just a classic "White people are racist unless they're providing for Black people" asshole.
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yes OP, black people exist. You are completely mindbroken from /pol/ and need to touch grass.
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>>216968395
>unironically using racial slurs online
MAGAts are insane.
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>>216968194
>>216968337
not only is he brown, he can't act.
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>>216968582
weak bait
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>>216968146
In another thread:

>I don't mind black people in media, I just don't want to see them out of place like medieval europe.
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>>216968182
This, I was incredibly disappointed by how the character was used, they rushed through his development and backstory within the first 10 minutes and called it a day. Imagine if he didn't escape/defect until the halfway point of the movie or later, spending more time being a stormtrooper and showing off more of that lifestyle and why it bothered him.

Frankly who was playing the character was irrelevant, the character itself was not used properly.
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>>216968602
not bait, just tired of hearing it. Ever since that orange clown took office, the racism in this country has skyrocketed. Using slurs and shit doesn’t make you any more cool or impressive to the users on here.
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>>216968395
>The real mistake was trying to make him the Luke or Solo style main character. Ironically one of the only things Rian Johnson did right was fix that, but the consequences of the initial push was that there was no other main character to identify with, outside Rey
Because both him and Poe were originally one dude, Ben Solo. Kylo Ren capturing Poe would've been Darth Talon capturing Ben. Killing Han would be the moment he turned to the Dark Side, making it much more impactful. Especially since Rey being Kira Solo wouldn't be a mystery box in this situation, so it'd be a sister watching her brother kill their father.
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>>216968582
>black people exist
They do. I see no problem here
>black Storm Troopers exist
They don't. Pretending that they do is a big problem
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>>216968724
You have to call things what they are. Oh, the truth hurts? I'm sorry, but the truth is still better than living in a lie. This is one of the last things that was left to us, free people. The ability to call niggers niggers on thisnirrelevant website. So fuck off.
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>>216968146
Isn't he a turbo sperg with his jealousy of white people, too?
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>>216968724
>Using slurs
No one in this thread has used any slurs.
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>>216968997
you’re the one living a lie my dude. Black people are our equals and should be treated with respect. America wouldn’t exist without them being here. Stop browsing /pol/, it’s rotting your brain.
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>>216968194
>OMG LE HECKIN' CHUDDERINOS HATE FINN CAUSE HE'S BLACK! RACCCCIIIIIIIIST!1!
>we liked Lando in the OT and Mace Windu in the PT
>NO NO NO YOU HATE ALL BLACK MEN IN EXISTENCE AND WANT THEM ALL TO BE EXECUTED PUBLICLY WHILE YOU RAPE THEIR WOMEN AND BURN THEIR HOUSES DOWN
The Handmaiden's Tale effect.
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>>216968146
A BLAHK STOHRMTROOPAH!?
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*whooping noises*
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>>216968146
/tv/ was always woke and progressive until the election tourists of 2016 and 2024 travelled back in time and made it racist in 2015.
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>>216968146
retards and manchildren will still watch it
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>>216968146
I don't think the entire blame can be laid at the feet of the boon. It was a shit show across the board.
I think that jump scare at the start seems to have been manufactured to use him as a scapegoat for the entire mess.
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AYO U NOT FINNA DIBNEY PLUS ME NIGGA
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>>216968146
So I just want you to be clear, you do fully admit you're a racist POS?
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>>216969639
>POS
It's POC you racist piece of shit.
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>>216968860
Correct
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>>216968395
he goes from horrified at what his fellow soldiers are doing to hooting and hollering when he's blasting them with a tie fighter 10 minutes later
he's always been a clown
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There’s this stupid fucking scene I never can get over. Rey and Dey Fly-Nao are sinking into the sand and think they’re about to die, and Dey starts screaming “Rey! REYYYY! I never told you!!!”
And then they don’t die and Rey asks Dey what he wanted to tell her, and he just says “Oh nothing”. And it isn’t brought up for the rest of the movie.
Now the natural assumption is that it’s a love confession. What other conclusion is there for a guy and a girl who have been together for three movies? Despite of course, that Dey Fly-Nao was relegated to a fat Asian woman as a consolation prize last movie. And Rey is shown to be romantically involved with Space Hitler 2.
So you’re just left with this weird scene where the guy who has been relegated to a sidekick role with an ugly sidekick fatso as a love interest is just confessing his love to a woman who doesn’t like him.
And then after the fact they came up with some bullshit excuse like his dying words were “Rey I wanted to tell you I’m force sensitive!”
Which also is crazy to do. Even if it wasn’t out of place, why tell her while dying? And then why not bring it up later?
It just reeks of the insane thought that they’d have another trilogy being pumped out right after this.
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>>216968657
>Imagine if he didn't escape/defect until the halfway point of the movie or later, spending more time being a stormtrooper

They couldn't do that because they didn't want to actually associate the character with anything stormtrooper-ish and make the black guy a flawed protagonist. They wanted him to be le heckin' 100% good boy magical negro so they made him a former stormtrooper only in the sense that he wore a uniform for a minute before taking it off and aside from that had no actual backstory.

Which, as many have pointed out, makes the whole thing completely pointless because the fact that he used to be with the empire is just a plot point and there's nothing to actually build off. But that's what happens when your make characters that exist to be extensions of your politics and don't serve any real narrative purpose.
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>>216968146
I feel sorry for the guy. They didn't treat him right. I heard he got paid peanuts.
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>>216968146
Where's the fucking pasta! Post it!
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>>216968146
Why are British niggers so much worse than American ones
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>>216970436
They're not? Black American areas have murder rates comparable to third world shitholes. No European country has anything even close to that.
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>>216970436
They aren't
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>>216969954
Everything after Episode VII is pulling in like 10 different directions at the same time because Abrams just wanted wanted to plagarize the OT and Johnson wanted to do the subverting expectations thing and those are completely contradictory impulses.

Episode 8 was made by a guy who didn't really like episode 7 and then 9 was an attempt to pivot away from the unpopularity of 8. So every film in the trilogy either fails to follow through on what the previous film was setting up or sets up something that the other films don't follow through on. So you just wind up with these incongruous pieces kind of slapped together whether they fit or not. It's not clear if Finn was supposed to be a love interest or Rose was supposed to matter at all or if Snoke was supposed to do anything besides die or if Rey was always secretly a daughter of a force user because the people in charge didn't even know themselves sometimes. The answer depended on who you asked

This is where the absence of someone like Lucas is so problematic. Because even if he wasn't the director he made sure the train stayed on the tracks. Lucas pulled some shit out of his ass in his films, too but nothing that ever felt completely incongruous with the previous work. It was all pulling in the same direction. Kathleen Kennedy just made sure the force was female and then let whatever happen because she never had any creative vision keep consistent. She was making the movies just to make movies and has never understood what fans liked or wanted because to her the movies were just a means to an end.
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>>216970189
he's a retard and deserves no sympathy, he ruined pacific rim 2 with the attention and money he got from star wars shit
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>>216968182
I disliked both of those things.
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>>216968146
>conditioned from birth to be an imperial drone
>two seconds after turning on them he's making marvel quips as he kills his brethren
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>>216968582
The bait is weak with you, young causehopper.

Seriously monkey boy and kylo should have been the main cast and everybody else is a disposable character for the cause kind of like disposable people in a disney movie when a female character has all those singing tea pots and things from beauty and the beast.
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>>216970436
they're the same but they don't even have the imagined oppression so they have to imagine the imagined oppression
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>>216969954
that scene bothers me, too. as much as that final movie craps all over the place with diarrhea nonsense that doesn't make any sort of narrative impact, that scene stands out as utterly ridiculous.

REY! REEEEEEYYYYY!!!!!! I NEVER TOLD YOU!!!!
[they survive, and tease him]
what was it, nerd?
n-nothin.... it was stupid nevermind....
and like jerks, they DO ignore him? alright, nevermind then.

was ANYBODY pre-watching the movie, enough to point out how useless that bit was? it blows my mind how TERRIBLE that movie was
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>>216968194
Kissing their asses won't save your life against them, bro.


>>216969102
>America wouldn’t exist without them being here.
OK you're fucking high. Yeah I know they built flying pyramids in ancient times and built Wakanda, but in classical American history they were farm equipment that got replaced with the industrial revolution rendering them obsolete.

>>216970189
He got paid royalties that he will live off for the rest of his fucking life. He didn't get Johnny Depp or Harrison Ford sized paychecks because when he was hired he was a nobody, and nobodies don't command star salaries.


>>216970696
She had a future until Cynthia Erivo out-uglied her to steal all the "I'm special because I'm ugly" jobs.
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He really should have been a human racist and understudy of thrawne. Csn you imagine him instead of screaming REEEEEY every few minutes like a child crying for its mother and instead giving hitleresque speeches and screaming SKY WALKEEERR like a proper British villain.

Or at least maje him and Rey a buddy cop smuggler trio ala han and chewie. His screaming would make sense and goofy bullshit was the most entertaining
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>>216968724
ywnbaw btw
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>>216968146
I don't even care about Star Wars but I will hate this fucking gorilla nigger for all eternity for ruining Pacific Rim
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>>216968146
There's a thousand things wrong with the sequels, but this guy was completely inoffensive.
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>>216968724
>the racism in this country has skyrocketed.
Almost all the racism I've personally encountered in my life has been from leftoids directed toward white people
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>>216971647
Are you black?
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>>216971599
Didn't help that the script required him to scream "REEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYY!!!" and other shit ad nauseam.
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>>216969036
yeah but its entirely and openly self serving
>I should have been the main character
>I should have been in LOTR
>I should be the next James Bond
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>>216968146
>Aren't you a little gorilla-like for a stormtrooper?
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>>216968146
I would've of enjoyed the movie much more if Finn was the main character and Poe was the secondary character and Rey died before the start.
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>>216968146
nah, that was Yidsney
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>>216968146
>You guys are insane, we're not shoving black people down your throat!
>Also here's the first human being of the new star wars
>Please don't notice how black he is



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