It's an ugly planet. A BUG planet!
>>216970806The framing of this movie is excellent. You get so immersed you forget you've seen him before, and then BAM!Bugs.
>>216970806>*flashback to that one woman soldier getting dragged into the bug caves*Rip
It's a Bane planet, a BIG planet.
>>216971049For the Mobile Infantry.
Why did the cameraman keep filming?
>>216970806The Federation of this movie is no different than the Federation in Star Trek
rewatched this recently and it just seems like a movie about unrequited love
>>216971097EVERYONE FILMSNOBODY QUITS
>>216971097Because USA parody
IT'S AN ZESTY PLANET A THUG PLANET!
this dude in the movie always remind me duke nukem for some reasons. also, the main actor has the most chad jaw i have ever seen.
>>216971097Because he is doing his part. Those horrific images will be useful to the Federation
>>216971097>This is going to make great propaganda!But unironically.
>>216971339It's Mr Krabs
Dizzy > Manion > Lumbreiser > brain bug > Carmen
Still not refuted.
>>216970861She joined just to have a baby...
>>216971787I mean, maybe that happenedJust don’t expect the little fella to be human
>>216971812I have read enough doujins with that theme to know what you mean
I just read the book and then re-watched the movie. The book makes a very compelling case for corporal punishment and restricting voting rights. I thought it was funny the director of the movie never even read the book, thought it was fascist, attempted to satirize it, but everyone thought it was cool.
>>216970806There's no need to be anti China now.
>>216970861I still don't get why they took her. She was just a random grunt. Didn't seem worth dragging her to the brain bug.
>>216971488He's also the kurgan, so what?
>>216971097>WhyHANNNIGAN!!!DEAD BODIES, MORE VIOLENCEMUTILATIONS!!!"Fuck You!!" * punches pope*One word anonRATINGS
>>216971889Thc book is dark satire. Dude rico and s the fucked up veterans are about to be killed. He has PTSD so bad he starts having full body shakes anytime combat is about to start. He's basically been ground up, is in a living hell and knows it's not a rescue mission but a suicide mission because they plan on shattering the planet. You zoomers... Something is wrong with you. Did you honestly miss Rico being all fucked up by the end
Seriously they even show rico on some of the covers which Heinlein said were him. He's only supposed to be 23 but looks like he's 50 covered in scars. It's really obvious in the book. The shakes he gets, the constant memories of his friends and loves fucked up or twisted. By the end of the book he's fucking mangled. He doesn't feel comfortable around people when he goes home he gets in a fight and in the book you can tell him and his guys started it but they blamed the merchant marines. It's basically all quiet in the western front but in space. How did you all miss this
>>216971935The bugs are woman hating incels Most species in the galaxy are, as humanity will find out. It is our duty to put them in their place and teach them the virtues of wimens suffrage
>>216971253I kek'd
>>216970837It's also clever because in the beginning you see it only as a news broadcast, but later you see it from Rico's perspective (and you get to see first hand just how retarded the cameraman is, which you might've not thought about earlier)It's all quite good. Is it the most complicated thing in film making? No. But it's better than the slop we get these days.
This is Rico by the end. He's 23. He has terrible full body spasms before combat. He has to be medicated. He's fucked up. Lol how did your entire generation miss this. Yes. The book is dark satire. Heinlein hated fascism you dumb ass Gen z shits lol I MEAN LOOK AT YHIS DUDE DOES HE LOOK LIKE Z HEALTHY 23 YEAR OLD LOL
>>216971097It's good content.
>>216971339Clarence Brown was the original KurganHe has always been just a big, powerfully voiced man amongst men
>>216972119Everything you just typed is wrong.
>>216971097The reporter was an asshole boss so he wanted to make sure he could rewatch him dying later.
>>216972303Heinlein was insane enough to date Ernest King's daughter.
>>216972350Shut up you twat. I posted the book cover and they can check his full body shakes. Don't bite me
>>216972395The book cover is designed for one purpose: to sell the book.Also about the shakes, he describes them as pre-drop nervousness, like the eagerness of a race horse.Maybe read the book?
Remember, it's a good day to die when you know the reasons why
Is it possible to win the initial invasion of Klendathu
Throughout the bookRico explains why rescue crews to save 5 people might result in losing 10. Humans will try to rescue each other. "Men are not potatoes" over and over again. At the end after destroying all the remaining bug planets the remaining veteran troops are about to drop on the bug planet to rescue the pows. But it is also noted the bugs don't seem to take prisoners long term or would have the ability to even do so at mass scale. Meaning there's no pows, the shattered veterans are going down there and the military will blow the planet up. Rico is semi aware but trying to ignore it. The veterans are all shell shocked and becoming increasingly violent. They went from highly trained spartans to beating the shit out of each other when command changed and Rico the whole arc rationalizes everything. More importantly a bunch veterans know of a new earth like paradise where the powerful of humanity actually live incredibly long lives. There's very little radiation. You know something is up when they get sent there. Anyways Rico gets rushed through space ocs
>>216972119lol are you pretending to be retarded
>>216972581>he describes them as pre-drop nervousnessThis, I never read the booksBut I don't see how in a combat drop I could ever be anything like Hicks during a drop in the movie Aliens
>>216972581No his doctor describes them to him like that and he relays that to you.
I think it's awesome this franchise is still alive. I mean, it will get a new shooter soon, with Casper van Dien back as Rico, and Terran Command keeps getting new content
>>216970806The only good bug is a dead bug.
>>216972630His doctor bullshits him because the mi is extremely low on men. Look up what Heinlein thought of fascism. The book is shitting on it as a joke. This other anon missed that seriously look up Heinlein on fascism
>>216972686
>>216972652Great. Then it's settled.
>>216972303idk if Heinlein hated fascism but the society in the book is explicitly the opposite of fascism. There's zero racial or disability discrimination and the economy is fully capitalist.
>>216972581Hmmm...
>>216972581>the controversial classicWas it controversial when it first came out? Or was that something that evolved more recently?
>>216972700Maybe you should look up what Heinlein thought of Starship Troopers?You can't stand that the book describes a functional right wing society, so all you can do is declare that it's fascism and then direct people to Heinlein's view of fascism.Very clever, but also very dishonest.
>>216972742Commies have been seething since it came out.
>>216972719oh look, another idiot who takes the "socialism" part of national socialism at face valuefucking Hitler himself said it was a ploy to get people to show up to meetings because socialism was a popular movement at the time. Fascism is a capitalist ideology.
This thread isn't about the 1997 motion picture Starship Troopers...
>>216972303I think there's literally one combat scene in the entire book, the opening. Maybe, if you count them catching the brainbug at the end as a fight, there are two. A hundred times more words are spent on describing how wonderful Rico thinks women are than on anything related to muh combat trauma. In fact, I don't think there's any of that in the book at all. Mostly, the book is just men talking about practical every-day politics. I remember some of the conversations being pretty good. Like the one where some officer explains to Rico the power that the general(?)'s secretary holds, pointing out that she could well do his job for him, before asking Rico if she *would* do his job for him if it was necessary. Or the conversation between Zim and, I think it was another general, or the same one? Anyway, where they talk about Zim letting the recruit land a punch on him and how much the whole situation is tearing him up. The conversation of Rico being handed his stripes or whatever they were is pretty memorable too. Or where he meets his dad again out of nowhere, after thinking he had died. A lot of good stuff in the book, actually. None of it combat related. The parts about how great women are, and how they're toes the best pilots yo, are cringe, though.
I think when I pointed out the shakes, the book cover, the author, the ending, they don't keep powsYou realized you misread the book and you want to bury that thought by arguing. Pass. It's a waste of time. I mean if this was in person I'd just hold up the cover. Waste of time. Why even have a discussion. It's Rico. Can't even do there is no good faith why even solve captchas
>>216971097Cool!> keeps filming
>>216972813There's zero racial or disability discrimination.Heck even non citizens are doing well (Rico's parents)
>>216971097They're all geeking on space meth and have no clue what they're dealing with.
>>216972303I think Heinlein wanted different people to take away different things from his books and wouldn't have approved of you calling other readers dumb.
>>216972886I accept your concession.
>>216972813>that's right. yeah, state-run capitalism. yeah, totally different from socialism.
>>216971097Having known some news cameramen, because they will do anything for a shot. The "slimy paparazzi" are just the most notorious.
>>216972700>Look up what Heinlein thought of fascism. The book is shitting on it as a joke. This other anon missed that seriously look up Heinlein on fascismI...don't care for other mens opinions of political movements, I think for myself and if Heinlein is so butthurt maybe I prefer the adaptation to film by the director of RoboCop to his books.If there is one thing I don't respect in any writer of fiction or actor, it's when they open their jamook mouths about politics.I like George Clooney as an actor, I don't care for his political takesI shit on JK Rowlshit, because she not only has political takes, but actively participated in the subversion of her home countryPeople in big houses in gated communities should keep their mouth shut about matters that effect us little people more than it effects them
>>216972813What is fascism apart from economic stuff then? Rico is Filipino. >>216972838I know, I'm having fun though
>>216972303What I got from the book is that being in the US Military is not exactly voluntary. Joining is voluntary but serving is not.
>>216972995Veterans don't get shit here except cursory "thank you for your service" and basically ignored everywhere else that matters (employment, societal positions, actual life in general)It doesn't help that around of third of them are fake ass false valor types who never saw combat or are just plain narcissistic assholes who think questioning the governments motives makes you "an enemy of the state" I'm real nice to old old veteransThe millennials can kiss my ass
>>216972926>Be hitler>Crush unions>Hate commies>Enrich corporate interestsand people say he's not capitalist
>>216973228Now address the massive welfare spending, seizure of businesses, wealth redistribution, and government involvement in everything.
Chinas economy right now is pretty much ran the way Nazi Germanys was. Also, replace the word Jew in Mein Kampf with Banker or Oligarch or something and every leftist would agree.
>>216973291>seizure of businessesI personally believe that Christie's Toybox and other porn stores are bad for society, along with subversive news printing organizationsThey should be under government oversight
>>216972354Oh n-
>>216973136What are you talking about? Vets get preferential treatment in a lot of industries. A lot of them are working while getting disability because they jumped out of a plane a couple times.
>>216971097that's actually a descendant of jake gyllenhal's character from nightcrawler
>>216973916Never saw that one. Worth it?
>>216973927it's a /tv/ classic. definitely worth a watch
>>216973819>Vets get preferential treatment in a lot of industries.Yeah show proof of that.Because I have worked many industries and I don't see it at allThey get tossed to the side like outdated hamburger all the time you glowing favelos negras
>>216974065Amazon warehouses have a very strong preference for veterans when hiring managers. Same goes for law enforcement.
>>216974268>Amazon warehouses have a very strong preference for veterans when hiring managers.>No proof>Just anecdotal fallaciesYes get the fuck out of here ya jamook
>>216974300Have you ever applied to a job? Every application asks if you are a poor, minority, or protected veteran because the federal government gives tax breaks for hiring special people.
>>216974428>Have you ever applied to a job?Oh wowWe got a Zoomer shit on our hands
>>216974428In my day we all lined up and had a handshaking contest with the boss, and the fella who had the firmest handshake got the job.
>>216974693You all jerked off the boss to get a job? Yuck!
>>216971643The Federation is losing the war by the end of the movie.
>>216970806I rewatched this movie recently. To be honest, I don't understand why it's held up as a satire of anything. It's a funny movie, it's stylish and it's fun to watch, but a satire is supposed to reveal the flaws or errors in something by highlighting them and mocking them. And I don't see anything in this movie other than contempt for the military and for soldiers. It's funny to watch, but it doesn't correspond to anything. Oh, and the political stuff from the novel (which I read a long long time ago) is in this but it's just briefly alluded to.
>>216970806An indian board!
>>216975258That's ok, little buddy, not everything is meant to be understood by all intelligence levels. You should stick to stuff more suited to your ability like star wars
rate them
>>216975258
>>216975258>I don't see anything in this movie other than contempt for the military and for soldiers.That's exactly it. Satire is just part of the language he uses to express that contempt.
>>216970806What I never understood is how they gave the Space Marines the most ineffective small caliber weapons that don't do shit to the bugs. You would have thought the high IQ NPH would have helped develop better and more appropriate weaponry rather than making a video telling people to shoot some impossible to hit "nerve cluster".
>>216978065S: robocop, total recallA: starship troopers, flesh + bloodB: basic instinctC:D: showgirls(never seen hollow man)
>>216979303C: Conan
>>216972700The funniest thing about Heinlein is that Starship Troopers is really the only right wing media he's ever written. Everything else leans more into marxist commie type shit. In fact, SST is his only novel I can think of that doesn't have cuckolding as a major plot point.
>>216978952The whole point was to keep people distracted, so they don't look at what the government is doing. If they had been highly effective everything would be over quickly and grunts would figure out they were being fooled. Did you even watch the movie?
>>216971097>cameraman keeps filmingIronically this how people are with their phones.
>>216972303He's just getting anticipatory excitement at the thought of blowing up bugs. IIRC the medical people can't figure out what is 'wrong' with him.
>>216970806This movie is literally about the IDF
>>216972991>Rico is Filipino.Source? Don't bother replying.
>>216978065>enters Hollywood >makes legendary kino >makes legendary failures >refuses to elaborate >leaves the industry
>>216973927>>216973945Seconding the recommendation. Definite kino, and not in the semi-ironic way you see certain shitty movies memed here. It's just a very good film.
>>216980315They literally train on a base in Canada you dimwit
>>216971975>In the final shooting draft of the Highlander II: The Quickening screenplay, it was revealed that the Kurgan was in fact originally sent from the planet Zeist to Earth by General Katana in order to hunt down Connor MacLeod and Ramirez before either of them could win "The Prize" and therefore return to Zeist. The scene was scheduled for filming, and actor Clancy Brown has discussed how he was contacted by the film's producers to make an appearance:>They sent me, like, the first 10 pages of it, and I said, "What the F... What is this? Give me the rest of the script?" And they said, "Well, we want your commitment before we give you the rest of the script." And they said, "Well, we're just gonna pay you the same." And I said, "Nah, see you later. [Laughs] I'm not gonna do this. First of all, this makes no sense. Second of all, you're not gonna pay me anything. So there's no reason for me to do this at all!" So then Christopher [Lambert] calls me up and says, "Oh, you've got to do this with us! You've got to do this with us!" I said, "Chris, it's horrible. The idea is terrible, what I read was awful..." And he says, "I helped write that." [Laughs] I'm, like, "Well, I guess I'm never gonna be doing any more Highlanders!" He’s a great guy and I love him to death, but it was doomed from the beginning. If I wasn't getting paid... I will do shit for money. But I'm not gonna do shit for no money. I'll do quality for no money. So if it had been any good, maybe. But it was no good from the get-go.Clancy seems like a lad.
4c-Claudia_Black-stargate.jpg from Stargate was also a hottie, hahaha for a Brit!
>>216980320the book retard
>>216980346>comes home to make legendary kino again
>>216980482She's jewish.
>>216980500Looks like a farm animal, like from when the cows come home
>>216971097Because at a moment like that you don't think about yourself, you think about the focus, you think about f-stop, you think about the 11 o'clock news, everybody counting on you ...https://youtu.be/CUEpIHhK6NQ?t=6211Camerafag is a criminally underappreciated character in that movie. Proto Boomer version of Lou "Nightcrawler" Bloom.
>Heinlein thought we'd have flying cars, colonies on the Moon/Mars/Venus and laser pistols by 2007Heh.
>>216980685He also thought we'd have artificially intelligent computers, what a loser.
>>216971097>Why did the cameraman keep filming?so he would not get court marshed
>>216978952well they framed the Bugs and nuked Buenos Ares and told everyone it was a meteorso yea i think logistically sabotaging the troops is in the realm of possibility
>>216980685we doyou are just a slave with no access
>>216970806>a bugly planetThat's how I always remember it
>>216980685>Puppet mastersPuppet masters of what? Puppets? Dumb title, tell me nothing
>>216981953That was a good and creepy movie from back when. Puppet Master.
>>216972886>the world's least deranged media literate poster
>>216971097
>>216971097penis status?
>>216971097The superchat donations went wild and if he stopped he'd lose subscribers
>>216972790the movie or the book? didn't the movie director try to subvert the book but failed?
>>216970806>You live in a society where half the population identifies with the bugs
>>216973136Killing european brothers for the banking class is not noble.
>>216972886>>216972700>>216972303You seem to think that the book Starship Troopers is depicting a fascist society. It's not. It's far closer to a classical republic. Citizenship is closely tied into military service and the ideal is the citizen-soldier. BTW this is the model that basically every father of republicanism was following. This is what's making you uncontrollably seethe.
>>216975016Good
>>216981123>well they framed the Bugs and nuked Buenos Ares and told everyone it was a meteorFalse, Verhoven says it was a real bug attack on the commentary track. You got that idea from a Chapofag.
>>216984355It's very odd that modern leftoids shit on the big innovation from the French revolution, the citizen-soldier. Robespierre would have understood the Federation political setup intuitively
>>216970861>It's an ugly planet, a jeet planet!
>>216984528>big innovation from the French revolution>citizen-soldierThe only thing they innovated in is the 'smooth' creation of a power vacuum so large that nappy could sail in.
>>216984491>False, Verhoven says it was a real bug attack on the commentary track. You got that idea from a Chapofag.Did he change his mind later down the line or is it actually just leftists making things up?
>>216973136>Veterans don't get shit here except cursory "thank you for your service" and basically ignored everywhere else that mattersWhy the fuck wouldn't tgey be. They chose to murder people as a profession, they took the money and then....what?They should be paid forever with tax money stolen from real working class people?
>>216981123>well they framed the Bugs and nuked Buenos Ares and told everyone it was a meteorAny more Reddit conspiracy theories based on nothing?
>>216984412They won in the third movie.
>>216984558Big N retained the citizen soldier model and conquered Europe with it
>>216973228>crushed unionsHe replaced them with massive government run unions>government-run unions bad!Okay, but most explicitly socialist states have had government run unions.
>>216971097This guy set the stage for it.
>>216984687ANON NO DONT DO IT
>>216972909lol
It's unbecoming of a citizen to let a civilian fondle your tits in public
>>216984570It's them making shit up.
>>216984570If the bugs are actually dangerous to humans then that introduces moral complexity to the scenario and it's not simply Earth bullying a basically harmless species. Leftoids hate that so they make things up
>>216985144>If the bugs are actually dangerous to humansThey have swords attached to their limbs
>>216984799seeing this webm, god I love my gf, fucking little minx
reminder that these are the people talking about "media literacy" unironically
>>216982525intact
>>216980320holy shit you people are actually retarded
>>216971097>Times where you were literally the Nightcrawler
>>216984570it's them making shit upthey say stuff like "but the bugs wouldn't have faster than light travel" to support their theory, but in the movie it is just not elaborated on at allall this because "humanity bad" must be true because they think they are fascist (they're not)
why did the bugs kill the dreamer mormon migrants instead of giving them food, shelter, healthcare and voting rights???are they nazi bugs?PUNCH NAZI BUGSPUNCH NAZI BUGS
>>216983888Yes and yes.I'm not convinced Verhoeven was trying too hard to subvert the book. I mean he was, but I think his priority was to make an entertaining film first. Any "subversion" was secondary. This is in stark contrast to modern film makers who prioritize the message.I'm no Verhoeven expert, but this is just the impression I gleaned.
>>216986771I'm not sure subversion is the correct word here, from what I understand, he didn't even read the book and just got notes about it from others.From what I've heard, he instead just tried to give the movie a message like "war makes fascists of us all" and was chiefly aiming to satirize American military attitudes as the time.
>>216983888Both caused controversy but the movie had a bigger footprint and low iq people thought the movie was a love letter to fascism from verhoven
>>216984799that girl later married charlie sheen, had kids, become a drug addict to the point that the judge gave the kids to charlie (lmao).
>>216979956Starship Troopers isn't right wing media
>>216986600me when I pull out my camera phone to film a woman being stabbed on the train instead of helping
>>216980500>the "i can't make nazis look bad, so ill try religion cope movie"
>>216984528Robespierre was one of the worst dictator and the worst french leader of all time, dumbass, his regime was worse than fascism
>>216970806I don't give a fuck what you nerds are arguing about. It's a fun movie with big explosions and hot chicks. Would watch again.
>>216970806UNTIL I AM OUT OF AMMO OR I AM OUT OF BLOOD I WILL FIGHT FOR HOMOSEXUALITY ON KLENDATHU
>>216990016
>216990016Feels like the timestamp randomizer is only used by shills and spammer.
>>216971643That's Dugin!
>>216972273Gell-Mann Amnesia
bugs win in the end
